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Angelfrost:
Wrong again!!! My only bitterness here is in the loss of a poor soul, and your failure to bring forth proper and strong arguments against the clear truths I posited.

People like you make me laugh... You see the truth but dodge it due to how it affects your religion, business, belief system, etc. That's hypocrisy!

You will rather have us all focus on the end product of a societal rot, and not the very foundation and root cause of it!!! Where is thy objectivity and integrity?!!

I never supported whatever herbalists was consulted for this act, matter of fact, I wish them a horrible end! However, they didn't create the demand for easy wealth nor did they glamorize illicit wealth. They didn't do the foundational damage, at least not compared to the culprits I mentioned.

Should we also blame herbalists for the several youths caught or being hunted by EFCC for romance scams?!!! Did herbalists push Hushpuppi and his ilk to their fraudulent acts?!!...

There is a deepening moral decay in our society... The above tragedy is one of the numerous fallouts of such poor indoctrination!

I can do this all day and night long... But, I seriously have better things to do than continue arguing with someone scared of facing the truth!!!

Just read what you wrote. The herbalists that demand people bring human sacrifeces for quick wealth didn't create the 'hysteria for quick wealth' but somehow pastors are to be blamed??

Herbalists didn't push hushpupi and his likes to crime but pastors did.

As a logical/rational thinking human bw the person that says bring human head for sacrifice to acquire wealth and someone who says donate ten percent of your income so you can receive more, who takes the blame for ritual killings and complete moral decadence?

You would go to any length no matter how ludicrous and dubious just to ridicule pastors and get a one up on them in your 'game of hate' against anything Christian won't you?



I hope someday you understand/realise just how far off rail you are on this one.

Lopomo:
na shit full am

and who told you poo is stored in the ass??... ignoramus

Angelfrost:
It will be a waste of time for one lacking in objectivity...

I listed or mentioned more than one culprit in the decline in societal morality, but you chose to stay focused on one, which I sense affects you personally.

If anyone's time has been wasted, it would be mine! Anyone reading both our submissions would clearly see you trying to remove blame from a section you are clearly invested in or have a huge stake in.

If you are a Christian, then I doubt if Christ himself won't be ashamed of such needless defensiveness.

You know the funny and quite honestly disappointing thing in all of this??..You've pointed accusing fingers at everyone and everything else from family to society and mostly pastors and Christianity in general but you never once had anything remotely negative to say about the the herbalists, easily the main culprit(s) in the crime being discussed..

Your bitterness has clouded your ability to reason properly.

Angelfrost:
How are they the main culprits sir?!!

Did they go out there preaching the gospel of easy wealth to these imbeciles?!!

Did they create the demand for easy and ritualistic wealth?!!

Have herbalists and idol worshippers not existed since time immemorial?!!

Prior to this modern world of today, even before Christianity and Islam, didn't we have these herbalists and spiritualists?!! Compare the level of wealth desperation then and now!!!

Who made the need for these herbalists become so high and rife?!!

Okay... Let's assume we are able to eliminate all of them. What next?! Will that suddenly make the desperation for money among young men disappear?!! Or will they not find alternative yet equally evil ways to get this much celebrated and worshipped wealth?!!

My good sir, let's say the truth... We are all to blame as an immoral people who worship money above all else!!! If we didn't give undue premium and adoration to easy money, these people would not be that desperate to the point of cold blooded ritualistic murder.

So pastors made the demand for herbalists high?

To think you're trying to put the blame of the atrocious practices of herbalists on pastors says alot about you as an individual

Well this has been a huge waste of time.

Angelfrost:
I have no problems and I'm not frustrated... You are the one coming off as a pained and frustrated clergyman!

Have a good day and kiss the truth!!!

The 'truth' is what you're desperately trying to evade by ignoring the main culprits in this issue.

Learn to speak the undiluted truth with boldness.

Angelfrost:
My personal opinion is subject to multiple understanding and perspectives... I have no control over what or how you feel, and I am quite unperturbed. The facts stand! You are welcome to keep nitpicking.

Pastors welcome donations, tithes, seed offerings, etc from such individuals even when deep down, they know they should speak against them and reject their offerings. Same goes for Imams. This is exactly how I feel about making corrupt politicians welcome in temples of worship, even giving them undue reverence and privileges. I can go on and on.

There are 3 major places in the society where influence counts the most:

1. Homes and Families
2. Religious Houses (of which churches are a majority here in Nigeria)
3. Social Media

If evil people are outright and unflinchingly denounced in these places, society will stand a chance at self cleansing. This has not been the case today, hence the upsurge in such damning proclivities among youths!!!

If you have better arguments, please bring them forth... Cause you keep going round the main point here!!!

so how does blaming pastors in this particular scenario stop the menace of ritual killings??

You didn't attack the ones(herbalists) making such demands for human part to get riches but you're here focusing all your energy on pastors for collecting 'tithe and offering'

Let's say people stop paying tithes and offerings in churches, would the quest for quick money that leads people to do dubious things reduce??..
Will ritual killings stop if all churches are closed??..The answer is a big fat NO.

But I'll tell you one thing that directly reduces and ultimately puts an end to ritual killings, outlawing and criminalising herbalists practices with laws that are strictly enforced.

There's your solution for this particular one. Next time focus your energy on the main cause of the problem and stop diverting your frustrations on less deserving entities.

foleskay:
Its not d native doctors. Real babalowos don't do rituals...its all these Alfas and white garment churches that encourage this boys.

here they come.... Herbalists and traditionalists are the major culprits in ritual killings. Stop trying to subvert the truth.

Angelfrost:
Well, I did say "Pastors and Clergymen"! This means Pastors and other religious leaders.

The truth stares you in the face! Deal with it... I'm not your problem.

How can we have lowlifes and criminals comfortably forming religious in our houses of worship whether churches or mosques?! Makes no sense whatsoever!!!

why 'pastors and clergyman' and not just use clergyman if the aim was to put all under one umbrella and not born out of mischievous intent?..why single out pastors and categorize the rest as clergymen?...and does your clergymen include the traditionalists/herbalists that are often the main culprits in such cases?


BTW most of your Yahoo boys and runs girls engaged in many irresponsible acts all identity as being part of the 'woke' generation that see religion as a scam. So how pastors take affect people wey nor dey reason pastor matter in the first place?

Yadid:
SMH. Our hypocrisy in this country is on another level. I'm surprised no one addressed the root of the matter. Is it not babaláwos who do these things for the boys? No one is attacking babaláwos now. In fact they are not being mentioned talkless of being criticised, yet we know they are the main culprit at the root of these issues.

If no babalawo had spoken to the boys, they would not have gone ahead taking human lives. Nonetheless, no one will talk about them. No! They won't get called out. Traditional is good! Traditional is good!! This is it in the 21st century.

If the issue reported here has had anything at all to do with any pastor, I know what we would have seen here. Even if it is just about a pastor collecting money.

I know my preference between a so-called money-collector and a life-collector. Let us keep it up. We will end up somewhere one day. Just know that your favourite politicians will never encourage a criticism of babaláwos, since they are cronies, but pastors Those are the only problems of this nation. Nonsense.

PS: I commiserate with the family of the deceased and hope justice is adequately served.

you're wise

Angelfrost:
Every one in this society is to blame for this current upsurge in this anomaly...

Pastors and Clergymen: Constantly preaching and harping on riches, never speaking out against ill-gotten wealth.

Parents: You can't say you don't know your own kids are making money from sources unknown.

Family and Friends: You all are suspicious yet refuse to denounce these people.

Nairaland/Social media: You continue to praise these people when they throw money around instead of calling them out collectively
Etc...

How many more lives of our young women will go before everyone speaks out with one voice against this unspeakable trend?!!... How many?!!

These are the ones that didn't succeed... What about others that succeeded, and many more nursing this same evil ambition?!! You all will never understand till it gets to a girl closer home!!!

na only pastors be una problem...u wont ever mention the Muslim imams and traditionalists that are mostly involved in such cases of ritual Killings.

Na pastors una dey first attack on every issue.
Y'all are very useful tools in the hands of the devil.

na these type of irresponsible guys present crop of naija girls dey do fasting and praying for to date

later when shit hits the ceiling, they'll start shouting "stop blaming the victim" when the warning signs were there from the beginning

another useless olosho wan cash out

When he invited you to come to a yatch party and you accepted, what did you think was going to happen there?

Stevenson1:
Nobody dey support Barca this days. Everybody don run.
Shows to tell that success begets friends and fan and failure begets enemy and backstabbers.
Just look at almighty Barca before. Chai!
This life is in costant motion and anything can happen.

Who tell you that one??...Barca fans still full everywhere and I remain a staunch supporter for life.

Only say these days their loses nor too dey affect me cuz e almost done then Normal. But we will rise again.

Brian47:
I hope I go find girl for Narialand oo.

Na angry,bitter feminists full here now

panpan:
The denial of work permits to Nigerians is still an issue.

In the meantime, what can other Nigerians, especially those with a lot of money, do?
If a foreign country snubs your fellow citizens, you may snub them back.

Avoid going to the UAE for tourism only.
A business trip to the UAE should be considered only if absolutely necessary, and is going to be profitable for you.

Is it the wealthy Nigerians that told those stupid idiots to go and be constituting nuisance and spilling blood in broad the light on the streets of Dubai?

YourFavorite21:
This their pidgin English dey somehow funny

warri pigin... highest

Senomi:
The pidgin just dey give high blood pressure na so dem dey yarn for dat side

Senomi:
The pidgin just dey give high blood pressure na so dem dey yarn for dat side

na dat one b d correct pigin nor r be the diluted one wey una dey yarn

Fashionista01:
You need to go to psychiatric hospital to examine yourself because u are not acting normal.

This will be the very last time I will respond to u.

you're the demented fool trying to justify the actions of a cold blooded murderer.

You're the one that need ls to be locked up in a mental asylum

tofolo:
They can never become extinct bro... In Florida US, you get paid for killing a python, very invasive species.

don't mind the illiterate fools disgracing themselves upandan in this place. Forming fake animal rights activist when they know nothing about what they're talking about.

slawormiir:
Damnnn niggar

Not surprised
Organics

Understandable why ladies bleach.....most times it is not their fault.....guys give preferential treatment to fair women...even me am guilty of it...no matter how I try to pretend...I still love to see a fair woman...

But for that of guys bleaching is what I can not understand

foolish simp... giving excuses for women's short comings while totally condemning guys for doing same thing.

You're a b*tch-ass pussy-ass n*gga

so she dey talk say she nor fit control her asshole... Hope say she nor dey fart anyhow for public cuz that would make her a very disgusting b*tch.

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Fashionista01:
Is it paining you that u cannot control your third leg. Sorry for the pains dear. Continue to bring curse upon yourself and your generations unborn.

you're a disgusting creature. A stain on God's creation

Gmark26:
It's called monkey blockus

e don tay I hear that name aswear...I just Burst laff

Fashionista01:
Any man that cannot control himself is a curse upon himself.

you're a curse on humanity

Bigchristo:
So when the kids grow up and ask about their dad, she will now tell them I killed your father for impregnating another woman, or she will bend the story to suit herself, Na jail be your portion

she'll always twist the story and place herself as the victim.

Na so women be, very manipulative and dangerous.

BankyGee:
With this attitude, it's obvious you cannot go far in life

And I've already gone farther than you'll will ever go in life.

Now go think about your life

everybody ignore that Ghana idiot on every nairaland thread try to get responses from Nigerians.

The foolish guy desperately craves attention from Nigerians.

Almunjid:
Both of them are 2 idiots. "Fornication" is a sin and lack of using "protection" is a crime.

preach

Guyman02:
The man is an international celebrity with money, he will continue to pay child support till the child is 18 years which American ladies love so much

question is, is he based or have bank accounts in the US??...na only that way US law fit force am pay child support

God punish the mod wey Carry this nonsense thing come fp
mtchwww ...half-corn ni, half-maize kor.

membranus:
You no fear Mynd banning you? Ol'boy you get mind o.

why e go fear??...the ban na death sentence??
mtchwww... nairaland and their yeye mods