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Goodvibes007:
Which one is historical explanation again. You must mean the age of the dragons like in the game of thrones. Dude, empire is empire and kingdom is kingdom. Just stop trying to give a different meaning to English words. It's hilarious 🤣

Let us just say, I'm in a position to write a dictionary and you are in a position to quote a dictionary. We are not mates. So you trying to confront me is like a toddler challenging Mike Tyson to a boxing match.

Goodvibes007:
English can be hard Sha

I give a historical explanation of the word "empire". Only a Nigerian self-claimed professor would think confronting me with a dictionary definition is the right thing to do ?
It is as if I were talking to children here.
English can be hard indeed, but the word empire is not originally an English word, rather it is a Roman word.
Please tell me kid, how old are you ?

opamoses1:
National geographic is more authentic than some 19th century map you posted from one Mr Bowen of unknown enterprise or company.

Intellectual level? when you are still struggling with comprehension. E.g Kingdom vs Empire.

1. For your information, the word empire is just an other word for kingdom, it originates from the Romans who had abolished monarchy and later on returned to monarchy but Cesar wanted to appear different from a monarch so he called himself emperor instead. You Nigerians don't know these and confuse your beliefs with knowledge.
2. No, national geographic is not more credible than an 18th century map (not 19th), since national geographic is not an eyewitness author from the 18th century.

opamoses1:
It's in the National Geographic screenshots I posted.

Look, I present you first hand knowledge, you present me "national geographic screenshot" ? Are we talking at the same intellectual level ?
I presented proof, you should do the same instead of hiding behind national geographic.
Map from the 18th century, author: Emanuel Bowen.
https://uniquemaps.eu/fr/products/rare-old-map-of-africa-1747-by-emanuel-bowen-pre-colonial-handcoloured-slave-trade-negroland-ethiopia-barbary-nubia?adg_id=&cmp_id=18827197097&device=m&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAmNeqBhD4ARIsADsYfTcF-pM6cua_NFIQsyRRe_7pXLIjPdX_qtuCoHvnE7IrXAJZrVCvVuoaAr31EALw_wcB&kwd=&utm_campaign=Google%20Shopping&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&variant=42258879971558

waternogetenemy:
There are two parts of Benin Kingdom.

Oba is the later part of it.

So u cannot add the early Idu Kingdom to your calculation.

If we start from Oba, then ILE iFE is much older.

Look, you are a retarded fool, so please shut up.
Enough of your nonesensical claims. Let smart people talk while you return to discussions with animals of your intellectual level (cows perhaps)

opamoses1:
Read my post again. Where did I write that ife was an empire? I deliberately used the word kingdom. Nok is the oldest civilization in the Nigeria area if not the west Africa area, but it was not an empire.

So where is proof of your claim that Ife was an older kingdom than Benin empire ? You just keep dancing around playing with words and never proving your claims.
We are not in the business of just saying what we want, proof needs to be provided.

opamoses1:
You have answered your own question. In your map by Mr Bowen, Ile Ife Kingdom/power had declined greatly. Just as Britain came later on, Benin was also an empire that came into existence later on.

Dude, so all you need to claim Ife was an empire is to just say it ?
Dude, we actually have proof that Rome was an empire, where is your proof that Ife was an empire ?
The same way I prove Benin was an empire, I can also prove Rome was an empire, there are eyewitness made maps and texts. But for Ife, it is only you people's mouths. Somehow you think your Ife claim is as good as Rome's ? You guys are amazing.

waternogetenemy:
Oya, come and be going, i dont need to get headache here.

I just posted two clips of Oba Supreme Court Case from Abuja just last year.

That case is not even decided yet.

So a court case of today is where history of "400" years ago is decided instead of the normal way : eyewitness written documents?
Your level of retardation is beyond human.

opamoses1:
Map of the British Empire in 1897. That means the British Empire is older than the Roman Empire, since Roman Empire did not appear anywhere on the map.

Yet another example of the logic of Nigerian self-claimed history professors.
Genius, in 1897, the Roman empire was no longer in existence.
What type of madness lakes you guys believe you know anything about history, even though you know that history is not thought in your schools ? What type of special kind of stupidity is in your heads ?

waternogetenemy:
My friend, I follow current affairs and watched the whole thing play out.

So things which you claim happened 400 years ago are current affairs ?
I guess this is an other product of the intelligence of a Nigerian self-claimed history professor.
To say you have no logic is an understatement.
It only amazes me how you are allowed to be a free and independent person while your mind is inferior to that of a child.

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waternogetenemy:
Watch the court case and educate yourself.

Oba is an imposter that came to Benin to conduct slave raids.

The real owners of the land have taken him to court, over 400years later.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yVmUHuLMsw

So it is Murphy phaze who brainwashed you like this ?
For your information, the Portuguese met the Oba of Benin 600 years ago while he was leading his empire from his palace in his capital city of Benin.

So how the Oba of Benin who was leading his empire already 600 years ago would have transformed 200 years later into "an imposter they came to conduct slave raids" is a thing only a Nigerian self-claimed professor of history can understand. You guys don't use the sale logic as the rest of us.
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waternogetenemy:
No, certain things dont need arguement.

Go and argue with the Oba.

1. Again, history is not about argument, it is about eyewitness written documents.
2. You still fail to understand what the Oba of Benin said, and what the Oba of Benin said is irrelevant to the discussion. The discussion is HISTORY, not royal speech !

waternogetenemy:
LISTEN TO HIM, HE WILL TELL U THAT THEY CAME FROM ILLE IFE.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPFuOlZSfM4

1. I think you really have difficulties understanding history. As I already said, it is not a story you tell, it is a bunch of facts you discover on eyewitness written records.
2. You seem to not understand English very well neither, the Oba of Benin said oduduwa (a mythical figure) originated from Benin. What this has to do with history is only known to a self claimed history professor like you.

waternogetenemy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPFuOlZSfM4

Your point being ?
Didn't they teach you how to make arguments in your imaginary university ?

waternogetenemy:
That is a short and clear way to let you know Oba is from ILE IFE, the word for King in Idu was Ogiso.


Oba was imported by invaders that came from ILLE iFE.

Dude, it is clear that you are mentally ill.
Where is proof for your claim ?
Nowhere. Instead you just believe you magically can tell what happened more than 600 years ago (Benin empire and the Oba of Benin were already written about 600 years ago by European visitors).

waternogetenemy:
Benin Empire of Ogiso, was called Idu.
It is quite differnt from the present day Ileife Benin Kigdom of Oba.

Here we go again, an other Nigerian self declared history professor.
Mr professor, where is your proof for this your claim ?
I'm only a layman who presented proof for his claim, let me sit down and learn from you, a guy who just says things without proof.

For the educated out here: there is no such thing as ogiso, there is no such thing as ileifebenin and there is no such thing as idu. Nigerian uneducated generation is just at high level of stupidity.

Nigeria where history is not taught but where strangely everybody believes himself to be a university professor in history 🤣
Below is a Precolonial map from the 18th century, it was drawn by Emanuel Bowen.
Benin empire is much older than Ife village and Anioma are part of Benin. I myself am an Anioma.
Reality is far from your delusions.
Benin empire was a large country but many of you uneducated people (who believe themselves to be professors) always confuse the Precolonial country referred to as Benin kingdom with its capital city (Benin city).
You guys always mistake your feelings and fairytales for history. History is not a story you tell, it is s discovery you make by studying texts written hundreds of years ago which describe what was happening while the author was writing the text.

You guys seem to love Ife fairytales centered on the Oba of Benin, they are convenient for your own claims of ownership of land.

waternogetenemy:
The funny thing about Igbo slave trade is, the minority tribes that surround us were used against us, not so much Igbo selling but rather Igbo kidnap.

The Oba of Benin showed up in the area from ile ife around the sametime dealing in Human Cargo.

Oba with the itsekiri conducted raids into Anioma.

On the otherside, we had the Obong of Calabar and Efik slave raiders that joined with Arochukwu to raid Igboland for slaves.

The Aro are mixed with Ibibio and they were the only igbo group involved in slave raids.

Then the British brought Ogoni's from Ghana to aid their access into Igbo hinterland and slave raid.

The Ijaws were kidnaping and active at slave ports, used for holding the slaves.


This is what happened in our region.

Correction: Oba of Benin, not "Oba of Bini"

Gadafii:
The hoe/oni sef no Dey respect himself

Sometimes I wonder if he’s an internet influencer or custodian of Yoruba tradition, he’s always appearing everywhere, him no Dey see learn from people like the Oba of Benin, and the likes

Calitoscassius:
She is not Indian

You're right, she's a blond and blue eyed Scandinavian.

Cancri:
Russia would still counter those robot any time any day

Come on, nobody beats the terminator. All the USA needs to do is first invent a time machine, then go into year 2200 and buy some terminators and then come back to 2023 and offer them to Ukraine, then Ukraine wins for sure.
Zalujni is a genius 😂

DeathToSimps:
Abeg get out
Mumu

That guy is the most hardworking guy here.

Translate to English please, I don't speak drunk idiot as second language.

dermmy:
This is unnecessary that guy is really trying. I can't even do what he is doing here cause I don't have the time. You should know that he doesn't manufacture news he copies them on Telegram channels and bring them here. He is doing a good job by keeping us engaged here please let's be guided.

I agree, I can't do what he's doing neither. But I'm always harsh when I criticize people. That is how I was educated, and I'm harshest on myself.

WrriterNig:
Assault actions began immediately after the withdrawal of the last UN peacekeepers, which were covered by the separatists.

Sometimes the things you write just don't make sense. What does this mean? If you are translating from an other language, then you are not doing it well. The target text is not supposed to be gibberish.
And since you speak English, you have no excuses. Didn't you notice that this expression made no sense ?

Appisko:
BREAKING:

Israel confirms that Israeli soldiers have entered Al-Shifa hospital, the headquarters of Hamas in the Gaza Strip

I can only blame the media which sold to us all that IDF were one of the top militaries in the world.
Invading hospitals, and bombing children is not the right criteria.

WrriterNig:
⚡An army of robot soldiers is what the Kiev regime's forces need right now - Ukraine’s top general Zaluzhny.

Zaluzhny "came to Zelensky and said 'I know what sort of breakthrough is needed: we need robots,'" according to an interview with Verkhovna Rada lawmaker Shevchenko.

RoboCop type or terminator type ? That is the question.

compton11:
nìgga, where did I tell your dùmbass that the Palestine were once Jews?


where did I say the Palestine were once Jews?

Don't waste your time, the guy hears voices in his head.
Each time he talks to someone, he tries to "disprove" claims which the person never made.
Avoid talking to crazy people who would only waste your time and give you headache.

Flamemignon1:
They are full definition of idiots and as a queer person, I'm ashamed of them

You mean you don't have shame for your "queerness" ?
Why don't you just get back to being a normal person again instead of a "queer" ?
I'm just asking a question.

Metaverse:
And here is another example why many Israeli citizens believe that Black people should not be classified as equal humans, and should be sterilised.

Nigeria has an education problem.
Most Nigerians you will interact with on this forum believe the pic of education is "reading and writing well", they believe anything else is the job of Google.

Nodogragra4me:
So why is Isreal at the door of all the hospital in Gaza and Hama's is now here to be found

I don't get the point of your ranting. This conflict seems to have given a voice to a lot of people without brain cells.
What the hell are you even talking about and why should I be interested ? I don't think highlighting the fact you are extremely gullible warrants me to be the aim of this illogical speech of yours.

Nodogragra4me:
Na wetin Una talk say if Israel enter Gaza dem go collect


Right now , Hama's only ambition is to see tomorrow...all their communications with hospitals staff in how to join the exodus out of Gaza is been played by IDF on telegram ....

It seems you never heard the word "propaganda" before. You are like many other Nigerians: extremely gullible.

SadEast419:
bokoharams are different ipobs and hamas. Bokoharam are pure terrorist causing atrocities. Ipob and hamas have something in common. Théy are both fighting for freedom. I'm not against ipob. But supporting isreal and ipob is madness. h

Ipob is not fighting for freedom, they are fighting for domination. All you need to do is listen to them to notice.
They also keep claiming other people's lands in their hate filled speeches. Well they have that in common with every other terrorist group including Zionist groups and bokoharam.

greggng:
Your problem is ignorance of history. Go and study the kingdom of Israel ...Also study what happened when they divided ...Also study all the area the occupied.

You clearly confuse theology with history.

greggng:
That someone ran away from his house while being chased by a trouble maker doesn't mean he has no right to claim back his land

1. It is hard to make an argument that you ran away from your house 2000 years ago and thetefor whomever occupies that house now must vacate it for you.
Are you 2000 years old, how did you manage to live 2000 years ? Where is proof of your claims ?
So if some other people who "lived" there 2001 years ago show up, do you then vacate and do on ...
2. European Jews are nothing but Europeans whose religion is Judaism. By following your logic, European Muslims should also go and chase Arabs away from Saudi Arabia because European Muslims lived there 1400 years ago.
3. I actually am more educated than you, so don't fool yourself in believing that you can give me directives on education.
4. Your religion is not history and will not replace history.
You clearly have no knowledge of history and want to disguise your religion as "history".
5. I'm just wondering with this your "new logic", if you sell your house to someone outside your family, does your son get to claim that house after your death ? By claiming you used to live there before the current owner moved in ?
6. You have no logical argument which is why you are now pretending to be academically above (you are not).