₦airaland Forum

Pakute:
How are they original habitant? . Do you mean Yorubas met them in Lagos and drove them away to Benin?

Benin city is not the same thing as Benin kingdom.
Benin city was originally recorded as Edda (the word Edo comes from that), Benin was originally meant for Benin empire whose capital was originally written down as Edda.
Below is a Precolonial map of Africa from the 18th century, the author is Emanuel Bowen.

For your information, the ownership of Lagos in chronological order went like this:
1. Oba of Benin
2. King of England
3. Federal republic of Nigeria

As an Edo, I say Oba Gha tokpere ! Isse!

Tinubu's presidency was ordained by God, if anybody is not happy...not my problem ! It is your personal problem, don't disturb me with it. It's between you and Tinubu and God. If I'm happy, it is not your problem !

wiseoneking:
And you don’t know that the secrets of American greatness and power are Jewish Americans. The Jews alone pulled down the old Soviet Union. American economy, tech etc is strongly of Jewish Americans. 10% of Newyork are Jews and they control the wealth of Newyork state. Respect plsssss. America needs the Jews more than the Jews needs American

What is a Jew ? Could you define it to me ?

Babinski:
It is clear historically that the lands taken over to create Israel were ancestral Jewish lands that were opportunistically occupied by Palestinians. Now that the Jews have taken back their land, there is no genuine moral ground for Palestinians to call Jews usurpers or to forment trouble.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmOBsYbxPCY?si=uHCPb5v-Zh8yD1K1
European Jews are Europeans who go to synagogues. They have no historical claim to the middle East, it is only their religion which makes them claim to be from the middle East. DNA tests have shown that they are europeans.
Palestinians are the indigenous people of Palestine (which you now call Israel).

Fighttillvictory:
JESUS CHRIST is a nazarrete of israel. And he came before the palestaine was formed by a rome emperor who was tring to subdue the jewish people

Israel didn't exist in the period of Jesus. Your Israel was created in 1948 by Europeans in the same manner they created Southafrica and Algeria, except they added a religious aspect to it.
You confuse the Jewish people in the scriptures with Europeans who follow Jewish religion.
Palestinians are the descendants of the people of Judea of which Jesus was a member. Your European Jews are just Europeans who go to synagogues.

I'm starting to understand why Jewish Zionists hate Jesus. Jesus was a Palestinian !

WriterNiiig:
⚡French society "at risk of tipping over" after murder of teenager in Crépol, says govt spokesperson Olivier Véran — Le Figaro

It was a fight between two groups of youngsters, one group came armed with knives. During the scuffle, the group with knives stabbed it's opponents and one of the opponents died.
Now since the group without knives were all white and the other group had Arabs in it, they are trying to rewrite what happened into a terrorist attack against white people. The amount of hate that is coming out is incredible. The government of France is being openly racist, the interior minister is saying non-white people are savages. White racist gangs are showing up armed with baseball bats and Balaklava and arson at places demographically dominated by non white people.
And guess who support this rubbish: elon musk and connor mcgregor.

Segun2222:
read hustory

What do you mean?

Zionists know their claim to Palestinian land is mere fairytale. But they think it shouldn't matter that it is just fairytale.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmOBsYbxPCY?si=uHCPb5v-Zh8yD1K1

WriterNiiig:
⚡Netanyahu and Elon Musk visited Kibbutz Kfar Aza in southern Israel.

Elon is a racist. He should feel very comfortable in Israel with other racist white people whose religion makes them believe they own Palestinian lands.

EquitableTech:
You are probably a 20 something yrs old boy

We don't need any argument.

Just take time and go to Ile Ife and ask to be taken to Orirun Oba Benin...The Tomb of Oba of Benin....
Whenever Oba of benin died, his remain is taken to Ile Ife for burial and their tombs are there in Ile Ife as i type this and their names inscribed on the tombs. Oba of benin is a son to Oranmiyan from Ile Ife...That practice of going to bury them in Ile Ife was stopped recently around 1960...the first Oba that was not buried in Ile Ife was the last one before this current one was installed.

No matter what false narratives they decided to weave, it cannot stand because clear evidences abound. Their graves are in Ife for all to see. Go there and verify before you continue to shoot mouth on what u don't know anything about.
All these false narratives you read and from this current Oba is just for political reasons...nothing more. He knows he's from Ile Ife.

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Stoplying:
0. Oba Adolor was buried in Benin city in 1888.
1. Oba Ovonramwen was buried in Kalabar in 1914
2. Oba Eweka 2 was buried in Benin city in 1933
3. Oba Akenzua was buried in Benin city in 1979
4. You know nothing about Benin, but somehow, like the delusional Yoruba which you are, you came here trying to teach what you don't know. Needless to say that all your write up is complete rubbish.
5. Perhaps you guys should spend more time learning your true history than trying to put a Yoruba spin on Benin history.

Also I have a book written in the 18th century in which the burial of the Oba of Benin is being discussed, and it took place in Benin city, around the palace.
So did Nigerian politics start in the 18th century ? Before Nigeria was created ? And it started with a French visitor?

You know nothing about Benin. You also seem to not be aware that your "Orirun Oba Benin" has been debunked on nairaland several times, it is a well known Yoruba hoax. Also the name of the hoax is "orun oba ado", no Oba of Benin has ever been buried there. The Oba of Benin buries his father (the previous Oba of Benin) somewhere around the palace, the burial is part of his coronation ceremony. You don't even know the names of your people's 419 scams well enough. I wonder what sort of mental illness you are suffering from. Strangely every mentally ill Igbo or Yoruba obsesses about us Edo people and just go on writing rubbish about us and our emperor.

(Below is a Precolonial map of Africa from the 18th century. The author is Emanuel Bowen)

EquitableTech:
You know not what you are saying.

Till 1960's when the previous Oba of Benin died, his body was taken to Ife for burial and that has always bn the case till the last one that died and they stopped taking the body to Ife.

0. Oba Adolor was buried in Benin city in 1888.
1. Oba Ovonramwen was buried in Kalabar in 1914
2. Oba Eweka 2 was buried in Benin city in 1933
3. Oba Akenzua was buried in Benin city in 1979
4. You know nothing about Benin, but somehow, like the delusional Yoruba which you are, you came here trying to teach what you don't know. Needless to say that all your write up is complete rubbish.
5. Perhaps you guys should spend more time learning your true history than trying to put a Yoruba spin on Benin history.

FreeStuffsNG:
The real documents of history are in the palaces of those Obas till date. The current Alake of Egbaland alluded to having original copies of these historical facts and evidences o.
In the future, Yoruba descendants will display this picture below to every visitor to Yoruba cultural centres too.

It seems you don't know that written form of language is not from our region, it was given to us by Europeans during colonisation.
Why are you guys so deluded ?
There is no such "real document" (books) in any palace !
The alake's kingdom was created in 1830 by the way ! And it was created by fleeing slaves!

When I say you guys don't even know your own history, I'm not saying it as an insult. It is just a fact.
Yet you believe you are professors in Benin history 😂

The part of taking pride in sitting arrangements in a picture with prince Charles to such an extent you want to hang the picture in "Yoruba cultural centers" 🤣
Self-esteem needs to be introduced to you 😂 this is like nursery school type of childishness.

(Below is an 18th century map of Africa by Emanuel Bowen)

adamusuleiman1:
Oba of Benin prays for Ooni of Ife, Alaafin of Oyo and other Yoruba Kings every morning

How long did it take for Yoruba ethnocentric people to turn this into claims of "Oba of Benin is Yoruba" ?
We just can't catch a break with you guys, can we ?
Dude, don't believe everything you read, the Oba of Benin doesn't pray for the Oni of Ife nor for the alafin of oyo nor for "other Yoruba kings every morning" !
You guys need to stop reproducing all these nonesense!

Your author if he wrote that, he was only telling a lie. Didn't you notice that he is the only person to claim that ? In more than 600 years of contact Between the Oba and Europeans ! And in 1939 many people could write in the region, including the secretary of the Oba, and nobody wrote that nonesense except your author !

Segun2222:
youre the one putting mouth in where you have little knowledge if not you'd know russia t72 or t80 is different from ukraines, you can Google ukraines t80 and compare with russia is that one too propaganda, next time just go straight to the point and tell me the tanks are posted arent t90, lets assume you're saying the truth are you saying ukraine owns all the t90 i just posted

I've showed you where you can find 100 of videos if you're serious youd go and check and not wait

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Stoplying:
1. I doubt you can tell the difference between a t90 and a t80 or a t72.
2. Ukraine did operate t72 and t80 before Russia blew most of those away.
3. Ukraine has been caught pretending Russian kills against Ukrainian tanks were actually Ukrainian kills against Russian tanks.
4. You didn't post hundreds of videos as you claimed

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aljharem:
You are not intelligent enough to comprehend

"Understanding" an incoherent speech is not a sign of intelligence, rather it is a sign of madness.

Ibrahimcoomasie:
I saw that presentation to the Oba of Benin on the statue of a Yoruba king. Ooni Aderemi, Oba Akenzua II, and Oba Erediauwa will be turning in their graves. Anyway, no bleeps to given..

Did your current oni ever meet your Oni aderemi ? And what is the filiation between them ?
The current Oba of Benin is the first son of Oba Erediawa and the first grandson of Oba Akenzua. He (of course) met his father and his grand father and was taught Benin tradition by them.
So no, Oba Erediawa (father of Oba Ewuare) and Oba Akenzua (grand father of Oba Ewuare) would not be turning in their graves, only your Oni of Ife village is turning on his grave.

Angelfrost:
Have sense abeg... I never said anything against Tinubu's presidency.

I simply stated the insincerity and downright stupidity of dragging God's name into it.

It's common sense... You and the Oba can be obsequious without resorting to blasphemy.

To each his relationship with God. God doesn't belong to religious fanatics like you. For your information, that is how kings talk: "Tinubu's presidency was ordained by God".
And it is in no way a blasphemy. Now, walk away.
Don't confuse your personal ethnic problem agzinst Tinubu with everybody's problem, including God's and the Oba's.

Segun2222:
same place you got your own Russian propaganda from........except there are 100s of videos of t90's meeting thier ends on twitter.........Ukraine doesn't even have 300 leopards 2.....only illiterates take you people serious

1. I doubt you can tell the difference between a t90 and a t80 or a t72.
2. Ukraine did operate t72 and t80 before Russia blew most of those away.
3. Ukraine has been caught pretending Russian kills against Ukrainian tanks were actually Ukrainian kills against Russian tanks.
4. You didn't post hundreds of videos as you claimed

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Segun2222:
meanwhile the number of t90 destroyed is more than the numbers of leopard, challengers and abrams if combined you people just ckme here to lie

And you got that info from NATO Propaganda?

FreeStuffsNG:
Never mind again since you have resorted to insults and failed to know that I never stated that any Oba of Benin came from Ile Ife. The one who all Oba of Benin descended from is Oranmiyan and he is a Yoruba from Ile Ife. He was the first Alaafin of Oyo. If you are not a Bini royalty, you are not any way related to the Yoruba and the Yoruba don't care now. I will never respond to your insolent remarks again.

Oranmiyan is a fairytale creature. You are an adult, stop confusing fairytales with reality.

FreeStuffsNG:
Please read the post you responded to. I stated clearly that it is the Bini royalty, not the Bini proletariat. No Bini proletariat has a reason to go to Ile Ife let alone throw up any link with the Yoruba because the Yoruba don't care. The Yorubas relationship with Bini begins and ends with the Bini royalty, if you are not from the Bini royalty, you are not related to the Yoruba.

Edo and Bini are connected by the Yoruba-descendant royalty of the Bini and that's all. The Itsekiri are true blood Yoruba and language is still closely related.

Are you blind ? I clearly wrote that the Oba of Benin didn't come from Ife.
For your information. The word Edo comes from the word Edda which was the first name written down for the capital of Benin empire, the capital was later called Benin city (you probably don't even know that Benin city is only the capital of the Kingdom and not the entire kingdom/empire). And Edo is used by Benin speaking people to designate both our language and the people of the empire.
You don't even know your own history, yet you are saying your ignorant yoruba-propaganda about my people.

Like the ignoramus you are, you don't know that historically Edo ( Edda) is the name of Benin city, while Benin is the name of Benin empire. Your ignorance made you think Edo comes from Edo-state (name created in the 1990's). If you still don't get it: Edo is part of Benin, not the reverse ! And even by the Precolonial maps of Africa, you can see that the land mass of Edo-state is part of Precolonial Benin.

(18th century map of Africa, from Emanuel Bowen below)

Thank God Obi didn't win, the Igbos do not deserve to have a person from their tribe become president.
Igbo manufactured hate speech is not getting Igbo any friends nor any votes.

Tinubu's presidency was ordained by God.
The Igbo bastards who dare to insult the emperor of Benin empire for ... Basically congratulating Tinubu...you people have mental problems. Solve your mental problems within your family and don't disturb us Edo people with your madness.

FreeStuffsNG:
This was what the Yoruba used to think and believed.

Since 2015 and the last election shattered it so bad that in Yorubaland now, the Yoruba no longer give that special affection and bias in favour of Edo and Delta again.

The Yoruba equally realized that they really can do without the agelong political alliance with old Bendel political and cultural alliance. Most Young Yoruba just group them along with others, they do not even know that the Edo and Itsekiri are our blood. Imagine old Bendel going against Action Group. Pa Awo must be turning in his grave watching what played out last election.

Honestly, the era of that blood ties seem gone. It may take several election cycles to restore it.
It's unfortunate but that's the reality now.

I recall that the current Oonirisa said in 2015 that any group behaving like the Bini, with its root from Ife, that is revising their history and cutting off their link to the Yoruba is free to do so but when they do so the Yoruba will not look back. That prophecy by the Ooni of Ife is coming to pass.

Today, HE Sanwo-Olu treated the Oba of Benin as an outsider and guest who came all the way from Benin to receive tutorials on Yoruba culture. Smh

That's what Oonirisa meant in 2015. They will come back but it may be too late. They came back but it's too late as they are now seen as outsiders. The Benin royalty is Yoruba and today, the same Head of the Yoruba descendant-Benin royalty is receiving lectures in Yoruba history after the one same Oba of Benin received in Ile Ife immediately after his coronation.

The Oba of Benin will really need to move around a lot and do a lot of work if he wants his place back in Yorubaland.

That museum project of the Oba should be a global Yoruba project to help him instead of making it a small Bini project. At best, he makes it a Yoruba-Benin project to help him revive the Yoruba link of the Edo people so that the Yoruba can help him achieve his goal. Right now, the Yoruba don't even care.

The Yoruba now call and see Edo as outsiders. What Oba is seeing there as the Yoruba Culture centre is the product of the Yoruba, we can help him too if he offers to use his museum project to project his Yoruba link

The guy whom you are replying said Edo people and the yorubas have common relatives, he didn't say we were relatives !
It is strange that what he said was enough for you to spill out your usual Yoruba tribal propaganda. Edo people are not Yoruba and not from Ife. The Oba of Benin is not Yoruba, (he doesn't come from Ife neither) and he didn't go to Lagos for "tutorship" on Yoruba culture. Lagos is and has always been part of Benin empire, and ruled by a vassal of the Oba of Benin.

Below is an 18th century map from Emanuel Bowen.

Israeli soldiers are a bunch of wimps who would not pass the selection of any army in the world except that of Israel. They act like overemotional teenaged girls all the time. That is why they have no self contrôle, from the top to the bottom. They commit atrocities after atrocities and keep claiming they are the true victims.

IMEI:
When Gilad Shalit an Israeli soldier was released by Hamas to the israelis after being held by them for over five years, he(Shalit) said he was treated well by them

Shalit's family were shocked at how well he was

We're talking about a captured soldier, a legitimate prisoner of war being treated well by Hamas

israel on the otherhand is notorious for dehumanising and abusing even Palestinian women and children in its custody

The terrorists have mercy while the good guys have none

WriterNiiig:
⚡3 Palestinian men on their way to dinner have been shot in Burlington, Vermont - reports

now let us see if they fail to call this terrorism.

QueenNyakim:
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Bro be careful, your map is a fake one.
Below is an authentic 18th century map from Emanuel Bowen.

AyoII:
After countering you on all fronts and you see you reeks of ignorance. You choose to turn to a French citizen all of a sudden. Even your moniker has give you away. Anyone can claim whatever in this faceless forum.But that doesn't stop from migrating to Russia.

My last reply to you:
You countered my arguments only in your own mind, in reality, you only spewed some more gibberish.
I'm not going to do a non ending back and forth which nairalanders seem to love so much. When I prove something, I don't discuss it further. I'm always ready to be humble if I'm proven to be wrong. (I am only human and I can make mistakes). You seem to be a time consuming empty barrel with no logic and a person who can't accept when he's been proven to be wrong. Life taught me to cut short any exchange with people like you.
I prove my point, then I move on, irrespective of your ability to understand or accept that you are wrong. This way, I get time to do things in life other than "debating" a fool 24/7.

AyoII:
5. Of course am not blinded by hate or ignorance. But you claim you stay in the EU. Why not go stay in Russia. Talking about dogma when the authoritarian and repressive regimes you support are the one good in that. Stop fooling around.

I'm ignoring everything else you said, because my points were not subject to debate.
I'm a French citizen, not a Russian citizen, that is why I'm not going "stay in Russia". Do you have any other stupid questions ?

WrriterNig:
⚡The team of Argentina's President-elect Javier Milei is analysing the possibility of joining BRICS, the media reported, citing sources in the politician's party. It is noted that the team is studying the option of "going down the path of joining, but with not very active participation".

So basically, I want brics' money while I contribute nothing and spit on brics' faces.
This idiot should honour his promis of not entering brics, or he should be kicked out.

AyoII:
You cracking me up big time. Resources so important like FDI or Chinese rare earth metals? You mean cheap Russia gas powering up EU industries is why Russia can't be overtaken? Which were gotten elsewhere last year when Putin thought Europe will be frozen to death.

1.The EU is still buying Russian resources, but from middlemen in faraway countries and for a much higher price.
2. European union economies are not doing well due to shooting themselves on the foot by sanctioning Russian resources.
3. Many EU industries have relocated to the USA or are in the process of relocating to the USA because the price of powering their activity has skyrocketed due to lack of accessibility to cheap Russian resources due to stupid self harming sanctions.
4. As a person who lives in the EU, I can see my food price has nearly doubled and my energy bills have nearly tripled.
5. EU countries like France are now finding it hard to pay retirement benefits and welfare and unemployment benefits.
6. I think you should talk to other dogma driven people like yourself. You can't come here and be talking nonsense to me while I'm busy speaking sense. We're not speaking the same language.