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toneroforever:
All these regional names like SE,SS,SW etc are mere nomenclature,it doesn't really matter much. The real identity lies in one's tribe.

It's an undisputed fact that there are Igbos in the SS. It has nothing to do with ur feelings. .

I think the issue lies in the fact that Igbos in the SE & those in the SS (mainly in Delta and Rivers) don't related very well. So that's why the SS Igbos try to deny their Igbo heritage. Unfortunately u can't bite ur nose to spite ur face. I also believe that SE Igbos should reconcile with our Igbo brothers in the SS & address whatever grievances that exist.

Just like the south west people, those of the south east are also showing signs of imperialism. You guys believe your own hype of "big tribes".
People tell you they are not Igbo, but you disagree with them on their own identity. You believe you know them better than they know themselves 😅

Face the fact, you are just an imperialist of the south-east trying to impose his will on the people of the south-south. It won't work, we are not Igbo, deal with it !

Yoruba= slave
Igbo= cannibal

tunjiajayi:
Name the bini oba that said or says he us yoruba?

It's Oba of Benin kingdom.
And don't mind Yoruba they just love laying claim to Benin. They can't help it. Benin empire is older than Yoruba, but Yoruba love to claim Benin empire originates from Yoruba.
Imagine a 13 year old claiming to be the father of a 59 year old.

People, when you make a claim, please follow suit with its proof. Thank you.

Picture of Oba Ovonramwen Nogbaisi after he lost the war against britain and was being taken to exile in calabar by the british.

Now, you see that ceremonial uniform of the Oba of Benin comes from his ancestors, the British took looted it from oba Ovonramwen alongside the famous Benin bronzes, they gave it back to Oba Eweka or Oba Akenzua, I can't remember exactly.

Now just for the purpose of history, can someone show me a picture of the oni of ifa in the period of Oba Ovonramwen and his traditional attire, thank you.

Other royal visits by the Oba of Benin:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUXtM3iDxgs

Oba of Benin visits Olu of Warri:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CumWkNrBkc

This is Oba Ewuare visiting former head of state Babangida:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqX-IS-SKio

This is the coronation of the Oba of Benin, notice that the oni of ifa is in attendance.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELOeHVuoMG8

Also notice that the Oba of Benin did not attend the coronation of the oni of ifa.

This is Oba Ewuare on a thank you tour to monarchs who came for his corronation, he didn't go to the corronation of the oni of ifa, nor did his father go to that coronation.

This is Oba Erediawa going to visit his father's friend and former prime minister of the western region.

Oba Ewuare paid the same kind of visit to Babangida, the former head of state.

This took place in Lagos, Oba Akenzua.

I don't know how many times I have said this already, you have to adopt a scientific way of thinking. Each sentence has a value of truth: 0 or 1. 0 for false and 1 for true. The fact someone says a sentence doesn't imply it's truth value is 1, each time you are confronted with a sentence, never assume it's truth value, that value needs a rigourous calculus. Also don't let yourselves to be abused by 419 people showing you a picture of Oba Akenzua and oni aderemi and claiming it was in ife, that picture was taken in Lagos.

samuk:
How could Ajayi Crowder have lived through the reigns of five obas of Benin and not have witnessed or heard about the followings:

1. The bodies of Obas of Benin who joined their ancestors taken to Ife for burial in the fabricated Oro Oba Ado burial site as the proponents of Benin/Ife relationship claimed.

2. Obas of Benin going to Ife for their beaded crowns or Ife sending Obas of Benin their beaded crowns as the defenders of the fallacious Benin/Ife relationship claimed.

3. Any of the five Oba of Benin going to Ife for visit after coronation. The Benin/Ife relationship trumpeters told us that it's customary for every Oba of Benin to visit Ife after coronation.

Why didn't Ajayi Crowder witness any of these and record them for posterity?

These are events that happen in the last 81 years before the fall of Benin in 1897. Ife is not even mentioned in Benin history in the last 81 years before the fall of Benin, yet someone is sounding like a broken record trying to say otherwise.

The British themselves did accept, infact it's widely accepted by the British that what their agents stating from Button wrote about Benin in nearly 40 years to the fall of Benin were grossly exaggerated, racially motivated and deliberately anti Benin because the Oba of Benin was see as a stumbling block to British interests in the territory controlled by the Oba of Benin. British agents in then Niger area portray Benin in negative lights to get the British government to remove the Oba they considered as their stumbling block. On the the other hand, the Alaafin literally fell on his knees to worship the British the first time he saw the white man in 1824.

1824 was the first time the Alaafin saw the white man and was willing to do anything for their comfort, unlike the Oba of Benin who the British saw as uncompromising.

This is the reason that the writings of the British about Benin starting from the 1860s is at great variance to early Europeans who were mostly in Africa for trade. The British didn't only came for trade but to colonised and those that they saw as stumbling blocks were given bad press and bad publicity while those they saw as good boys were elevated above others.

Actually, only one Oba of Benin went to ife for a visit before our current Oba, and that was Oba Erediawa. You guys should be careful to not absorb some of the lies which the yoruba keep telling about us. But I get the difficulty because some people like the transgender are notorious for their skill in making essays in which 99% of what they say is a complete lie. Just one sentence of that he/she contained more lies than I had ever heard in my entire life.

To the best of my knowledge, except perhaps a meeting of monarchs of western region, of which one took place in Benin city, no Oba of Benin went to visit ife. (Exception of Oba Erediawa and Oba Ewuare)

Before the ending of the holidays, I will book a train ticket to London, I need to go and take a look at their immense collection of Benin bronze.

The beautiful pictures and videos I will take ...
I get to see the faces of my medieval ancestors. How many africans have that kind of luck ...?

As I stand here in front of the greatest monument of mankind, I proclaim the truth:

There is one and only one Oba and he lives in Benin city.

Also, Osalobua bless my luck, greatest empire south of the sahara, greatest education in the world, greatest job in the world, greatest ancestors in the world, and making good money here in the most beautiful city in the world.

Life is good.

Oba ghato kpere!!!

Isse !

When Egypt comes to Paris.

Just chilling, walking towards the Eiffel tower.

@macof, sorry I don't read the comments of your troll infant.

1) If you knew anything about history then you would know that what matters for the study of history is not "history books" but historical documents. I know your education didn't go far enough to understand this concept.
"History" books about african history are often done by unprofessional bigots (or under their influences) and are filled with lies and fairytales and all sorts of fiction. That is why studying African history as an educated adult requires doing the work of a historian: seeking historical documents and going through them.

2) I am not interested in "anti-yoruba", I only seek to make hearing and seeing the truth an option to readers on nairaland. It is not my fault that yoruba tend to hate hearing the truth about themselves.

3) I couldn't even care less about yoruba except for the fact yoruba keep claiming my people and my heritage. So I shed a light on the history of Benin empire and put a nail kn the coffin of the fairytales of oduduwa and ogiso and oranmiyan.

4) Not contempt with my telling the truth about the history of my people which was documented by eyewitnesses, you and your yoruba followers including your transgender troll attacked me and harassed me and kept coming with more lies.

5) That is why I had to also study yoruba true history and expose it right here.

There is more:

true history of the yoruba


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0f53aYJElw

adeniyiemmanuel:
ALL hail the king Ooni of ife...may ur days be long sir u are awesome.

When it's all set and done, the truth is all that matters:

Documented history of the yorubas :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llporKrPsbU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2hU-ibkPfg

This is why whenever history is discussed, these yoruba always discuss fairytales like oduduwa and oranmiyan instead of their true history of which they are either ashamed either ignorant.

When it's all set and done, the truth is all that matters:

Documented history of the yorubas :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llporKrPsbU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2hU-ibkPfg

This is why whenever history is discussed, these yoruba always discuss fairytales like oduduwa and oranmiyan instead of their true history of which they are either ashamed either ignorant.

When it's all set and done, the truth is all that matters:

Documented history of the yorubas :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llporKrPsbU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2hU-ibkPfg

This is why whenever history is discussed, these yoruba always discuss fairytales like oduduwa and oranmiyan instead of their true history of which they are either ashamed either ignorant.