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Nemesis4you:
Yes and no

Incase you didn't know IAF pilots annual flight hours is higher than that of USAF pilots

Avionics and muntions advantage definitely USAF

But than IAF gets to work with Russian , Israeli, French and Ind... avionics & muntions , if one was to consider it worthwhile then ok, otherwise also ok

Tactics USAF is own while IAF tactics are own mixed with which it considers best of both western and eastern world , introduces unpredictability in my opinion

Yet still USAF have been the trend setters for long and invested in tactics for long so I will give them the advantage



I can't say who will kill whom bec as I always say things like this are unpredictable, so no point speculating

But as far as I know kinematic performance of Su30 is good, su30 is both a bomb/missile truck + dogfighter , but to enter dogfight it will need to sacrifice some of its heavy load

In theory atleast it makes sense detect first shoot first in bvr engagement bec u r not factoring in the jammers, su30 employs Israeli DRFM based jammers which will negate that advantage, WSO in the rear needs to earn his pay

As for AWACS depends on the what either side employs , phalcons with Israeli radar is no slouch



1st kinematic performance is related to the payload especially sustained turn rate and acceleration

I am not aware of F15c kinematic specs and bec many of those specs are variable depending on the load , in my opinion it will be a exercise in futility to compare them with another aircraft, but than I leave it to u to decide

Tvc brings in lot of capabilities which in the right hands will be handful



Su30 had hmd for donkey years , even the k versions
And on top of that IRST is organic to Su30

But than again I can't say whose is better , I will give the benefit of doubt to F15C atleast on paper


Missiles advantage I will give it to US atleast on paper, but than again it's easy bec it's not my ass or your ass in the line , russian philosophy of bvr engagement is unique they try to engage adversary by mixing up the shots with multiple types and su30mki will further complicate things by employing Iderby, Asraam ir guided which can be fired at bvr ranges , Astra series, python 5 which can hit targets behind the aircraft and even more funnier if they integrate mica series

The United States Airforce works with western airforces too especially the Isrealis, and it is even more easier to work together because after they fly American. American tactics like I said, are formulated from experience in American engagements, Isreali and other western airforces. In fact, the Americans have the most successful air to air engagements in the modern fighter jet age. The use of Airforces in massive tactical maneuvers by the United States in wars like Operation desert storm and Iraqi freedom is unprecedented, unrivaled and unmatched by any airforce in the world(the US Navy airforces might come close).

Between 1965-1982, American air to air engagements had nearly 530 aircraft shot down but only 5 were BVR. The use of BVR missiles was more prominent in the Iraqi/gulf wars, that is when AWACS had been properly integrated into American air tactics.
The ALQ-135/131 electronic countermeasures/jamming system with the APG 63 V3 will be the predator here. As the PESA radar of the Su 30 with it single to very few transmitter can be easily jammed. Especially when AWACS is in the battle space.

No doubt that the thrust vectoring control system brings more efficient control to the aircraft at slow speeds but this is not an airshow. It's a dogfight, it could easily become a sitting duck.

davefurn:
All these biased sources, what is us forces now doing in chad, Niger especially spying on Nigeria with their drones bases there. Djibouti nko, because Wagner dislodged France from Mali; the whole west are in uproar. Like it's not the same game they are playing. Now forming righteous on-top their acts. Same tactic they played when Africa was borrowing from China as if they haven't been playing the same game

If you believe that the United States will build a Drone base in the Aír region of Niger with costs running to 300 million dollars, with primary intent, I repeat primary intent to spy on Nigerian territory, then you might be wrong. Their are more willing Nigerians to do the job than willing Americans.

Personally, I'll want a great Nigeria which will spear head the removal of foreign presence in the West African region and entire continent and not one which is a pawn amongst powers. Maybe in the near future, we won't punch below our weights, diplomatically.

The United States of America, just like Russia and China all have their personal interests and aims in the modern "scramble of Africa". It's left for African people to ensure they benefit from these powers instead of believing that one of them truly loves the African people.

Exnavyboy62:
The P@k!st@n! airforce inducts the new, cutting edge, 4.5 generation JF-17C block 3. The aircraft is reported to have the DNA of the Chengdu J20 and it is made up of 50% composite material.

Nice upgrades, hopefully Nigeria goes for the J 10C instead

MiddleDimension:
Can the war game between the Indian Airforce and the US airforce in which the SU-30 performed better than the F-15 be used to judge how a real war would go down between the two fighters?

Nope, absolutely not. It's a war game but it gives lessons. The Greek fighter pilots which are seen by some as the best in Europe, beat American fighter pilots too at red flag, even the Brits do. That's why it's an exercise.

Back in the 70s and 80s at Fighter weapon school(TOPGUN), Miramar, A-4 Skyhawks and F-5s(navalised versions) flown by instructors were used in air combat maneuvering (ACM) tactics against F-14 tomcats flown by students pilots(who technically already have been flying for at least 2-3 years) and they were thoroughly whooped until after spending some times in the program.

The student pilots literally fly the type at their squadrons but come to Miramar to get beaten by older aircraft types.

Same at Nellis AFB, the airforce TOPGUN school. I've read reports of Russian aircraft being tested at the AFB beating American aircraft(e.g defected MIGs) and vice-versa. One key factor is always the pilot and training.

The average American pilot especially the Naval Fighter Aviators believe they're the best in the world and they're not far from the truth. Look at the level of training, flight hours, aircraft avionics and aircraft munitions.

Having said that, in an aerial engagement between the IAF Su-30 and F-15(you didn't specify the variant but I'll say F 15C because it is purely air superiority ), like other modern air to air engagements, the first to detect the other before the merge will dictate the fight. The F 15C has an APG 63 V3 AESA radar which boasts of a detection range of 180 km compared to the N011M bars radar of the Su 30 with 200km. This might not really matter because ROE dictates use of AWACS in these kind of instances and also visual identification before engagement. So, it might just be settled in WVR.

Here is when aerodynamics, speed and energy comes to play. The F 15C is faster at both higher and lower altitudes and has the ability to gain energy faster than the SU-30 mki. It has the ability to leave the fight if it is losing. The Su 30mki also has a higher wing loading which would affect its maneuverability against the F 15C.

About the Missiles and guns, the Aim 120, Aim 7 and Aim 9 are integrated to the Joint helmet mounted system which enhances the off bore sight ability of the F 15C, in fact the American missiles are more successful compared to the R 27, R 77 R73. I haven't heard of that from the Su 30mki but please correct me if I am wrong.

P.S- The F 15 is the most successful 4th generation fighter in history. Read up battles like Mole cricket 19 and understand.

Faithful007:
Now lemme go into a little technical reason while I supported the F16 over the SU-30

The F16 was not designed like the F35. Most people don't know that the F16 is actually a true air superiority fighter because it was designed for dogfights with less emphasis on long range warfare. It was designed with high manuverbility in mind. The initial meaning of air superiority is a fighter that can kill others in a dogfight

The T/W ratio is a rudimentary assessment of the manuverbility and dogfighting potential of a fighter aircraft. F16s T/W is about 1.15 while the SU-30 is below 1. I haven't seen anywhere the SU-30 was rated as more manuverable than the F16. The SU-30 MKI size due to it's internal fuel tanks even make it less manuverable. The F16 even outpaces the SU-30 in speed. What else do you need?

F16 is more unstable simply because it is highly manuverable. More manuverable designs are more unstable. However unstable does not mean unflyable. Control is handled by the fly by wire computers.

The BVR capacity is where the SU-30 MKI is supposed to excel because most F16s in service with the US today don't have good radars. They have the APG-68 radar which is poorer than the N011M Bars PESA radar in the SU-30 MKI. They will essentially be targets for an SU-30 MKI.

Another slight advantage for the SU is that it packs more tools due to it's size. This can be a real disadvantage for the F16 in an extended dogfight.

Now the F16 viper has more advanced avionics including an AESA which if I'm correct, almost all SU-30 do not have, this turns the inherent disadvantage into an advantage.

Of course pilot training and tactics come into play, but if we judge based on tech and design, the F16 Viper has a clear lead.

An additional correction. The term air superiority fighter/ multi role fighter was borne out of the need to have cheaper options for performing additional missions other than air assault. A multi role fighter doesn't mean a non air superiority fighter. Mostly it is less payload and less BVR capacity and in the case of the F16, a focus on dogfight alone. Currently avionics and weapon systems are becoming the mainstay in Aerial warfare so the USAF is seeing redundancy in keeping different designs since dogfight may not exist much in the future.

Fun fact: The legendary John Boyd and the Fighter mafia were part of the program which developed the F-16 and he was really adamant in integrating his energy principles and making a strict dogfighting machine. Man was kinda annoyed with the fact that the Pentagon wanted a multi role cuz to the Air superiority F 15.

Idk why anyone would think an aircraft with a very successful operational history is inferior to an aircraft which isn't confident of the avionics of its manufacturing country.

Odunayaw:
Are those conformal fuel tanks I'm seeing

Yup, they are.

Flanker:
Well as i said before , iraq vs a laaarge coalition of 38 countries , NATO + several neighboring countries, + un embargo of 13 years before . You can't judge how the iraki's air force and its mig29A performed when you have AWACS , satelit intel , modern radars, hudge armada of jets , steath , Tomahawk that detroyed all airports in the first hours ect ....



For second part , algerian mig 29S are used as second line fighters, with the sukhoi 30 MKA , Mig 35 and (the futur sukhoi 35 ) . In the region neighboors have in their second line fighters in service. F5 and mirage F1 for morocco , mirage 2000 for france , and the Mig 29S have an advantage against this jets , specially in air defense with the help of ground radars , air defense systems .

So nowdays its limited against modern jets , but in any air force you will find first line , second line equipments . Some evn operate nowdays even the Mig 21 and its variants for exemple

To be honest, regardless of the initial waves of attacks, the Iraqis failed to show up in the air at all and only very little engagements were ever made between Iraqi and coalition war birds.

In fact, after the war it was discovered that the Iraqis buried most of their war planes underground in the desert. What does that tell you? The Iraqis sabotaged the war by panicking to engage allied forces

MiddleDimension:
Many defsec experts do not give the Mig29 so much credit mainly due to how it performed against the F16s and F15s in the Iraq war at the turn of the 90s. What do you think is the capability of the Mig 29? Is it a platform to be proud of? Don't you think your airforce in Algeria should try to retire it since it does not have a reputation for winning wars?

In most wars, the Mig-29s performed poorly. Even, in Africa, during the Ethiopian-Eritrean war the Mig-29s performed poorly against the Su-27s.

Flanker:
104th RMO Operators

Nice seeing some real operators around here

GreenandGold:
Not to be out-performed by ISIS in Mozambique, these f##ls decided to take on ISIS in Nothern Mozambique with machetes... Never lived to tell the story

Damn, they thought ISIS were street dudes?

davefurn:
lol, all the nations mentioned have massive usa or france presence prior. Imagine usa declassifying a footage of reaper drone from their airbase in chad; which was constantly monitoring our airforce coin fights in our own airspace, not even in our border region. Around north-central, the question here is, do they even have respect for our airspace or not? Now when a casual balloon flew over, the whole world was freaking over. The solution is simple, all french, american, russian airbases should leave the continent; because if one puts, another will want to put to push their said "allies" to their best interests. what is even annoying me is that, despite all the spying and intrusions; sell weapons to us, a big no, took a full media props for some tucanos; oya help niger or chad or benin that you have airbases in to fight insurgency, another big no. Oya russia sold some mi-24 or so, now you're sending very powerful drones to monitor it's work then declassifying it

It will take Nigeria, at least 15 democratic years of quality leadership to achieve that status to interfere with matters at our borders with impunity and strength. We currently don't have the capacity to force a French expulsion at the sahel, protect the sahel or even handle the consequences

Toju200:
Nigerian army Aviation to receive 36 cayuse helicopters

I remember recommending these choppers for the Nigerian army instead of fixed wing aircraft, glad the army purchased it

Faithful007:
Where was I?

Thought you was with the Giants? 😅

Faithful007:
It does. The West usually does not support authoritarians.

The west supports western interests regardless

Faithful007:
🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

You've defected?

Covert1:
I'm becoming more convinced President Muhammadu Buhari is setting Nigeria up for a coup. Everything has been thrown at this country to breaking point and now this.

Except these Supreme Court Justices spare this country with true justice by restoring the mandate of the true winner of the presidential election as reflected at the Polling Units & not legal technicalities there's no hope for Nigeria.

Bola Ahmed Tinubu will not be sworn in as President of Nigeria. I don't see how the Armed Forces will ever allow that to happen.

It's a 50/50 probability. There is a high chance of Tinubu been sworn in. The truth is, most of the Generals of our armed forces think like elites, so the probability of a coup by the Generals is low except the middle ranking officers decide to step up, which is also slim

Exnavyboy62:
What arrant nonsense, calling Nigeria a country of bigots and ethnic irredentists. Why should they be concerned about Nigerian politics. The unintelligent newspaper corporation needs to be reminded that Germany is a nation of world war orchestrating, nazistic, Jewish xenophobic, cunning, inglorious basterds that allowed despicable dictators like Adolf Hitler and Angela Merkel to be it's leader .

About the ethnic bigotry, do you know that currently in Lagos, there is a candidate of the Labour Party named, Gbadebo Chinedu Rhodes-vivour. Yes, you heard me right. This man is half Yoruba and Igbo, that's why he's getting all the hate and fake news about him being Igbo.

However, do you know that if this man wins, he'll become the first Lagos indigene to be a Governor? Actually, the Rhodes-vivour family has been existing in Lagos since the 19th century. His ancestors are one of the first freed slaves who owned one of the largest cocoa farms in west Africa, and his great great grandfather was a RAF bomber pilot who was killed in Germany during world War 2. He comes from a family of Judges and in fact his father in law was former military governor of Borno state and he himself graduated from MIT while his wife graduated from Harvard.

It's obvious he's from a Lagos aristocrat family and he has substantial educational qualifications and popularity in the grassroots but people hate him because of his Igbo mother, wife and name regardless of the fact that all past Lagos governors were not from Lagos state and he might be the first. In fact all Lagos governors after Tinubu had been chosen by Tinubu himself, hence the name Godfather of Lagos.

With all these facts, some people still have issues with his name. That's Nigeria for you.

Exnavyboy62:
Ohh yeah Nigeria is a very important country I get it. But where was this German Newspaper to let Nigeria know that it is an important country ever since our Independence in 1960 and the riding through the turbulent years as a country not until this recent 2023 election, then the newspaper doesn't see anything positive to say about the election, rather it is targeting the country as a whole.

lol, countless foreign newspapers and media have been writing things about this country throughout this administration. Wsj, New York times, daily mail, etc. It is just if you decide to pay attention or not. I wish you knew the reputation of your country outside our shores.

Exnavyboy62:
What arrant nonsense, calling Nigeria a country of bigots and ethnic irredentists. Why should they be concerned about Nigerian politics. The unintelligent newspaper corporation needs to be reminded that Germany is a nation of world war orchestrating, nazistic, Jewish xenophobic, cunning, inglorious basterds that allowed despicable dictators like Adolf Hitler and Angela Merkel to be it's leader .

Tbh, from the outside, people don't seem to fathom why Nigeria is moving too slowly. Also, what happens in Nigeria is kinda the world's business because we're technically an important country in Africa. You get it?

Covert1:
The worst followership. You've nailed it. After every red flag that can be seen and you think its unthinkable for anyone to endorse such madness yet you see full blooded human beings with supposed brains throw their weight behind such anomaly it tells you everything you need to know about the country. Defending mediocrity in broad daylight is why INEC is brazen enough to collude with the APC and write results based on tribal base and Party divisions giving it what is called plausible deniability like every Nigerian are dunceses.

There are hardly any video evidence where the APC won with a convincing margin, none! This is the digital age not 1953. Exit polls and human behavioral patterns don't lie. It takes a great amount of wickedness in the heart to dispense injustice, defend it in public and lick its wounds with glee without any iota of remorse.

That tells you everything that is wrong with Nigeria. The hatred for other tribe's is worse than the racism endured by the black man abroad. Again, I say we are all just wasting our time. In the mean time just like it was on election day when any political junkie knew by 10pm the elections had be stolen when INEC with impunity denied service (DOS) for presidential upload to its servers. No we are not all stupi.d. Let all bring their evidence to court.

We must prove our public disgrace to the whole world either how kangaroo our courts are or how archaic and uncivilized peoples of the jungles we are. It's a disgrace been a "Nigerian".

Below more evidence coming out of the elections they said they won. People are now comparing results with the INEC portal and the shame that's coming will never be forgotten.

"In God we trust all others must bring data".

Exactly, chief. Seriously, with all these evidences and facts, I can't fathom how a "fellow citizen" will choose to deny it. It defies logic. Totally.

QuietMynd:
Empty threat.
Wat did y'all do when they order soldier to shoot y'all at lekki ? NOTHING.
Was it now y'all now have courage. Abeggi

Lol, so you accept and acknowledged that unarmed Nigerian youths were killed by Nigerian troops in cold blood. You've really shown who you are. A person with only personal interests and no sympathy for your countrymen.

Well, Nigerians are not apes. One day, the cups will be filled and it will overflow.

At Lekki, the troops faced thousands of Nigerians but now you're facing millions of Nigerians who believes that their mandate was stolen.

QuietMynd:

All because ur favorite lost.
All of a sudden, y'all so concerned about Nigeria.

Is this the first time I'm talking about Nigeria? Is this the first time I'm showing my concerns? If you want a drug lord to be your president and the present decayed structure to continue, then suit yourself.

QuietMynd:
Yes, u re right.
LP getting ridiculous 90% in all states in the SE is not rigging
But apc getting 60% in other state is rigging right.
U tried

Lol, APC winning Rivers , Benue sounds okay to you? Even PDP rigged in Akwa Ibom and other places.

Like I said before, the people of South East haven't had a president since the 1960s and won't miss an opportunity to get one hence the votes. The only incidents that I see as partisan in the South East, is a woman signing as a party agent for all parties in a polling unit.

Fun fact, most polling units in the South East started voting 1pm instead of 8am,most materials arrived late. Even in Imo state, some polling units couldn't vote but were recorded to have voted massively for the APC.

The APC ensured any state they lost, they lose with a small margin but any state they win, they win with a large margin. They were just aiming for their 25 percent.

Look at Ondo state where people sold their vote to the APC for 2,500 Naira. Yes, 2,500 naira. People were given a pin and their PVCs were collected.

Coming into the election the main parties which most people were talking about were the PDP and LP the only reason people were talking about the APC was because people believed they control state resources which fuel their rigging machinery. Nobody, I repeat, Nobody expected a party which mismanaged this country for the last 8 years to win the election. Even during the rallies, Tinubu had to Campaign against Buhari because he knew the damage his party has done.

QuietMynd:
Some of yall sef, like Peter obi didn't put up fake stunt as well.
Like showing fake video of american actors nd elon telling Nigerians to vote obi.

When was that? When did did Obi official account did that? We've absolutely no doubt that some over zealous obidients peddle fake news and propaganda to sell there candidates

QuietMynd:
Lmao.
Some of y'all re funny.
I swear.
If tinubu is not qualified then who is now qualified, answer pls

If you believe an aged man with Parkinson disease(of course he always have shaky hands), with Alzheimer's disease(he's always making incoherent speeches even during his presentation of certificate, he referred to himself as Governor),someone who disrespected the national anthem twice, we don't even know his primary and secondary schools, because even the former presidents have pictures with their high school classmates. Heck, this man surrounds himself with the most corrupt governors, Ganduje who was seen collecting bribe in dollars, Yahya bello who is a disgrace to Kogi state and a host of others.

Look, he's even a suspected drug lord, even newspapers across the globe claims a drug lord won Nigerian presidential elections.

With all these, and you believe Tinubu is the best candidate, then I'm sorry for the country for you've proven that she has some of the worst citizenry.

what the elites don't realize is that people are just acting calm and watching keenly. First time in our country history, a democratically elected president was announced and there was no celebration in the streets or country except amongst the APC elites. The aftermath of this quietness depends on what happens in court. Whether Nigeria remains to be prisoners to its criminal elites, descend into chaos or goes through rebirth depends on how the Nigerian leadership behaves.

Covert1:
Today whatever modicum of perception I had for you declined a hundredfold. You must be living in an alternate universe or tribal sympathetic, a beneficiary one way or another of the most flawed elections in Nigeria's history. Who'd ask such a provocative question. Wasn't it provocative enough what transpired on the 25th February? Words don't exist to describe the sham that passed for an election in Nigeria 63 years after independence. Nigeria is the only country in the world that can't organize an election because criminals have perfected state capture. There is no rule of law. We keep deceiving ourselves whilst small African countries have since surpassed in every level of human societal behaviors, development and norms: Rwanda, Zambia to name a few. People now go to Rwanda for holidays and tourism and worse for diplomatic relevance. This apparent tribal divide is why Nigeria will never make progress and a thousand Tinubu's will never make Nigeria progress because you can't build on a faulty foundation of injustice.

If you must then here's the answer. INEC promised a rules based game. It outlined the rules which powers are derived from the new Electoral Act which in turn derives its powers from the Constitution. In the middle of the game the umpire or referee which is INEC changed the rules of the game. Why should any of the parties be the victim of the rule change? I believe that's a veritable question for the Honourable Justices of the Supreme Court (which many believe are already in Tinubu's pocket) to decide on so the entire world will really see how humans have been reduced to do.g.s and modern day slaves.

INEC rules: The electronic transfer of Polling Unit results directly to its Server/Portal in real time for all to see (thereby eliminating any form of manipulation in a manual exercise at the Ward, LGAs or State Collation centers). That didn't happen. Mischievous thing about is whilst National Assembly votes (House of Representatives & Senate) could be uploaded that of the Presidential could not. I'm sure INEC and the APC can explain in court.

Apparently rules can change in the middle of a football match. Will you be the first defendant?

1 million likes. Spoke my mind.

Toju200:
Nigerian air force SOF operator

Nice optics.

Covert1:
In one word we are back to the ways of patronage but this time on steroids.

We are all Just really wasting our time. There's no nationhood and without that no Nigeria..

True, the events of the pass few weeks had made me rethink the reason of our existence. Nigeria had underperformed in all spheres as a country in the past few years, if we're to be honest. The events of the past days has shown that we have a large chunk of citizenry who lack the zeal for Nigerianism and oneness.

kabe1:
There are videos online of people in the South East forcefully thumb printing for Labour party candidates.

Are we supposed to believe that Labour party scored 98% of the vote on average in the South East.

We were told the naira redesign was because of Tinubu, Force deployment also because of Tinubu etc etc

All candidates should go to court with the evidence they have.

We have not seen the Tinubu presidency yet, we cannot start claiming doom and gloom. I get you don't like Tinubu, but let's not claim he did not win this election when nothing has been proven in court.

That video about those old women, haba Kabe1, those papers clearly showed mock. It was during the INEC mock voting. They were being sensitized on the electoral process, hence the singing.

Yeah, we should. The Igbo people of Nigeria haven't had a President since Nnamdi Azikiwe and won't cease a chance to have one, that's where regionalism comes to play. Even CPC used to have those massive votes pre-2015.

There was rigging too in Imo state, some polling units with no voting was wrongly cited to have voted massively for the APC.

Sure, all candidates will go to court

kabe1:
Again there were pockets of violence, but it was not widespread as what we have seen in the past.

This is a fact that can't be disputed and a positive.

Also remember INEC staff and offices were summarily attacked in the South-East prior to this election, but on and after elections we did not see that widespread attack that was predicted.

We can argue all we want, but that's a fact.

Explaining Rivers state election is a no issue, all aggrieved candidates should go to court and prove their case.

On the issue of IREV which failed, I don't disagree that the system worked.

Are we going to say there was no voter suppression in the South East for electorates voting APC.

Let's be real and factual.

However as the election goes the best candidate won, all other aggrieved candidates should go to court.

I did not leave the south east out tho, the only video I saw was where a crowd booed an old man for supporting APC, in fact it was just a crowd and it wasn't party sponsored like APC , meanwhile in Lagos, a girl was attacked by thugs and was injured on the eye and MC oluomo was seen on video insulting people who didn't want to vote APC at a polling unit, just in case you don't know, MC oluomo is an APC thug and a Tinubu henchman. However, can you mention people being attacked in the south east? Hopefully everything will be sorted in court.


About the candidates, Tinubu is the most powerful person and talented politician in Nigeria but he's not the people's choice, Tinubu is not a people's leader, he does not have the moral standing and leadership qualifications to be the president, he only has antecedents of playing rough politics. He surrounds himself with the most corrupt and controversial. People like Ali Modu sheriff who are rumored to be linked with the Boko Haram, Yahya Bello, Wike and a host of others.

With Tinubu, corruption won't be a thing in Nigeria anymore, because it will become a way of life and be normalized. What we call political strategy here, is branded in saner climes, as criminal.

kabe1:
Compared to 2019, 2015, 2011, 1999, 2003 and 2005.

Yes, I am for real.

the most rigged election in Nigeria was 2007 and you did not even mention it. Also, we're supposed to be progressing not regressing, this election was nothing to write about. It was purely rigged, I know someone who died even in my hometown. Please, let's be truthful.

You'll have to explain the Rivers state results and why INEC refused to upload to iRev. We saw live on Tv. Aljazeera to be specific, how thugs attacked a polling station in eti osa. We saw what Wike did to Corpers in Rivers. We saw how a collation centre was attacked in Jos, how a Corper was falsifying results in FCT and other numerous incidents.

INEC failed to live to expectations