₦airaland Forum

Exnavyboy62:
Just when I thought we can trust Chinese made weapons...

I don't believe in the VT-4 tank neither do I believe in the T-90A. I understand that the T-90M export version is a great tank but like I used to say, technically the entire planet is behind in the development of tanks. Armies of the world has had fewer tank to tank engagements after World War 2 hence the average designs.

The M1A2 abrams sep v3 might be the most advanced tank in the world today, but the Americans were never the best tank designers. The Russians have smaller tanks with more emphasis on a larger gun and fast tank attacks but I don't fancy having a auto loading carousel in the turret.

An auto loader might seem to be an advancement but it's suicide. Russian tanks lacks blowout panels compared to the American tanks. It's rare for you to see an M1 abrams tank exploding with the turret cooking off. The blast can be directed away from the crew because it has no auto loader and the ammunition is stored away from the crew.

The truth is that, most world tanks lack people blowout panels but the Leopard 2a7+ and K2 black panther has better survivability compared to the Russian tanks.

The Indian army had to tailor their T-90 bshima tanks to their requirements and also increase the armor protection. Any modern tank with a less than 1000mm protection against armored piercing fin stabilized discarding sabot is nothing but a walking mechanic crap. That's basically our VT4 tank. We need atleast 1300mm protection if we want to be relevant in the next 10 to 15 years.

About the tank main gun, I understand that Russians are considering 152mm main gun and that we'll require an autoloader, also the German 130mm is already under testing and an auto loader will be required due to ammunition weight, however that can be done by redesigning the autoloader from the carousel style. The leclerc tank and K2 black panther uses autoloaders without the carousel design that will endanger the life of crew in the turret. We just need to ensure its reliability in battle.

In summary, Nigeria needs to get into tank development, maybe partner with turkey and develop its own tank.


Below, is destroyed American M1a2 abrams tank vs the Russian T-90 tank. Notice the blown out turret

GreenandGold:
The Togolese Mbombe 4 is a crime..... they should have invested in a remote turret or something.

Do you in any way think it's possible for hybrid turrets with mixed manned and unmanned capabilities be manufactured? Especially by South African defence companies?

DaddyGoo:
Mad tank....but e cost no be small!

Exactly. I only have three reservations for this tank. Price, side turret armour and APS.

I'm not sure if the Korean APS is tested but the side turret armour can be easily upgraded for a Nigerian version.

The Korean version featured minimal side turret armour because it was seen to be a Korean tank built for mountainous warfare as that's the terrain of South Korea. The Koreans don't believe that their primary enemy, North Korea would flank them in attacks due to the terrain. However, Nigeria is multi terrain. We'll need upgrades.

Guys, I saw a video of a Nigerian ZSU-23 Shilka SPAAG in active service . Do you still believe that SPAAGs will be effective in the next 10 years across battlefields in the planet?

When I say, "effective", I mean against its primary aim. Low flying aircraft. Why do we need SPAAGs when short range missiles can do the job. I can't fathom any other reason except costs.

All opinions are welcomed.

Lurker4Long:
Yes, it's the G6 Rhino.
More info here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G6_howitzer

I read up the range and abilities of the SPG. This is superior to the over hyped Chinese PLZ 45 in my opinion and comparable to the pz 2000. I believe it will be beneficial for Nigeria to acquire this technology and begin licensed production but Nigerian pride and will might not agree

GreenandGold:
For 40 years now.... Once the longest-range SPG in the world for 30 years, we wrote the doctrine on wheeled artillery.

Below is the Denel T5-52

Looks like the DANA SPG

Lurker4Long:
Yes, it's the G6 Rhino.
More info here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G6_howitzer

I haven't seen any other SPG with this kind of design. South African weaponry are truly unique.

GreenandGold:
The advantage of wheeled vehicles is that you can just drive them to action

Is that a wheeled spg in the first pic? What's the equipment name, please?

A tank that will fit all Nigerian needs. The K2 black panther.

First time I spotted a Nigerian soldier with a shotgun in the front lines. Unfortunately, I couldn't ID the weapon name.

Glad we use those

Onigawara:
WE ARE THE CADETS OF DALET BATTALION!
WHERE GOD IS IN CHARGE OF ALL THINGS,
AND SO,
WE ARE VERY PROUD, WE ARE VERY PROUD OF THE NAME OF DALET!
TOUGH AND RUGGED ARE THE CADETS OF DALET,
DISCIPLINE AND COURAGE OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLE; GOD BLESS DALET
AMEN!!!

our anthem was the shortest and most easiest to learn. But if I'm to be honest, the Abyssinian anthem is the sweetest, followed by ours and then moga, then Burma.

Meanwhile, you can ask any clown for confirmation on what I'm about to say::

During prep wing, we the daletians saw extreme shayi (peace) compared to other battalions. Our prep wingers were very reasonable, rational, and logical. MOST times, they corrected and advised us when we did stupid things. We all LOVED all our Dalet prep wingers cuz of it

Meanwhile, the first 3-4 weeks of our prep wing, Mogadishu cadets saw Darkness!
They were suffering front, back, left, right and center. There was no minute that they weren't suffering. They suffered more than the rest 3 battalion COMBINED in just those first 3-4 weeks.

Meanwhile, after those first 3-4 weeks, it became Burma and remained Burma until end of prep wing.
Burma cadets suffered MASSIVE AND COLOSSAL injustice. Infact as a civilian or anyone who didn't experience or see it live and direct, it would be difficult to fathom what I'm saying. They suffered beyond what y'all know as suffering and it's not even a joke, trust me. Maybe I'll write on it next.

Abyssinia cadets saw little shayi too but unlike us, some of their prep wingers were the NO-NOSENSE type. In conclusion the order is;
Dalet
Abyssinia
Moga
Burma

So, manage and be a Daletian folks help yourselves

I always wanted to be a daletian. One of my 74rc coursemate is in Mogadishu and he didn't find it funny at all. He's currently an appointment holder, you might now him

Onigawara:
By the 4th week or thereabout, we started going for drills in the parade ground where we marched untill we felt our feets little to no more --- PREY DALET CLOWNS----TION!!! STAND AT EASE.... PREYYYY-----TION! LOOK TO THE LEFT IN 3s.... LEFT TURN!.... BY THE RIGHT!, QUICK LEFT MARCH.... LEFT RIGHT, LEFT RIGHT, LEFT RIGHT, LEFT RIGHT LEFT... we screamed out while marching hard on our hills..

Meanwhile, it is intriguing to know that even while marching some of us slept lol. Sounds impossible until you come to the academy and withness it first hand

We also started going for weapon training where we tactically slept cause most times we sat down and learnt.

We were also attending classes in the mess.
Heck, we even started getting admins (1hour break) to wash your dirty salalas and to sleep for those who have nothing doing.
Ngl we started having little reliefs after those first three weeks of extreme high intensity and rigorous training.


Meanwhile, what I hated the most was the fact that by that same fourth week, we were started running 10km every morning and evening which I hated. Running was my only problem as I didn't have much gas. Even the 3.2 we were running before, I was barely able to run it.
After running, you would see smoke coming out of the heads and body of cadets.
People started having one injury or the other on their legs because of the long distances we ran everyday. Mehn, I hated those morning and evenings

With time, after considering the injuries so many cadets had on their legs, they started giving some sorta excuse to those who couldn't run from running. They were called the GURU GURU SQUAD.

Damn, really interesting. An eye opener.

ADEGUNWA01:
I don't really know much about guns like that, I agree with u but with what I have read about those guns I mention they are more than just close protection guns those guys are also sweet able at the war front

Yeah, sure. No one said they're not suitable. I talked about using them for special forces insertion behind enemy lines. That's still the warfront. I didn't mention close protection. I mentioned "close range".

People write anything. I read an article of someone firing 9 X 19mm parabellum pistol rounds from trenches against the enemy! Which is totally ineffective .

ADEGUNWA01:
But the dss have better guns than the army like Fn2000, P90, tavor and other super guns, so the dss is better equipped than the army bro

FN2000, P90, TAR-21 and TAR-X95 Tavor are all bullups and carbines for close range combat. The Nigerian army and armed forces of the federal Republic of Nigeria have special forces units armed with those rifles. Special forces ops involves troops insertion, most a times behind enemy lines. That's where close range combats comes to play because you're embedded within the enemy and you don't want to lose the element of surprise(which is an element of war), you use guns like the Tavor with effective close range fire, with tactical optics and suppressors instead of the compensators on some standard rifles.

The Nigerian Army is in a war especially in a less built up environment , so assault rifles are used and battle rifles (chambered in 7.62 X 51mm) because they have longer range and more comfortable to engage the enemy in a large environment.

Personally, I prefer the M762 beryl rifle, CAK-103, AR-M1 and ak-alfa of the Nigerian army than those bullups and carbines. The TAR-21 Tavor rifle is chambered with a 5.56 X 45mm cartridge ammunition which in my opinion is not any good compared to the 7.62 X 39mm of the Nigerian army. If you note, most of these bullups rifles have an effective range of mostly 500m. The 7.62 X 39mm rifles have a farther range.

This cartridge enables us to punch more muzzle velocity through the enemy with a better outcome. I've read about situations where United States army rangers had shot and injured an enemy soldier on the leg but the enemy still has the ability to stand up ability to and escape with gunshot wounds.

With the 7.62 X 39mm, those situations are slim.

Exnavyboy62:
Defeat of Russia?? I don't think so. The US with the financial, political and physical support from it's fellow NATO Gangsters did not subdue the Afghan Talibans completely even after 20 years.
Russia is a large country that cannot be affected by weapons embargo cause it is a weapons manufacturing country.
Russia has resisted the combined forces of UkraiNATO for 10 whole months while holding on to 15% of Ukrainian territory.
The so called sanctions that were placed on it also backfired to the E.U. With the present inflation crisis, energy crisis, cost of living crisis, political crisis and the imminent war fatigue, it's just a matter of time before the remote controllers of Ukraine finally agree to entertain genuine peace talks.

Are you comparing asymmetric warfare to conventional? Are you aware that Russia failed in Afghanistan too and this perspective cannot be used to criticize the US!?

RiceProducers:
The only time on Russia 's side is that which allows further destruction of their military capability. Ukraine is developing capabilities in long range loitering munitions which combined with Western weapons and Patriot missiles will prove decisive.

There is now intense pressure on military industrial capacity in China, Russia, Iran and South Korea trying to meet Russian requirements for the war. These capacities will start to deplete when these countries factor in their own requirements against Israel, Taiwan and South Korea.

By mid 2023, everything will be be clear about the direction of the war which i believe in a world shaking defeat of Russia and removal or assassination of Putin

South Korea is trying to meet Russian requirements??

Danielnino00:
This is great!
Can't remember the last time a Nigerian made the list self..

Asisat oshoala have been consisted on the list

Luckysbab:
You combined Moi Moi and fried eggs?

Yeah. It's actually sweet

Ate some moi-moi with bread, fried eggs and tea. Preparing rice right now. Hopefully we eat that as the main meal.

kabe1:
Nigeria recently launched military satellite

INAUGURATION OF DELSAT-1 AND COMMISSIONING CEREMONY OF ASSOCIATED PROJECTS AT HEADQUARTERS DSA OBASANJO SPACE CENTER, LUGBE ON TUESDAY 20 DECEMBER 2022

This is a highly commendable move. I'm also glad by the lack of pr . I'm result oriented. In as much that we're are focusing on space technology research and development , we need to prioritize another sector of defence which will win us wars in the next decades. Main Battle Tanks development.

We got only two MBTs in the planet that might reach our requirements and we need to seriously ensure we develop something that fits our geography and defence needs.

Onigawara:
They were eager, itching and even salivating.. they just couldn't wait for our arrival. When we finally crossed that gate, LORD, you couldn't see how they raced towards towards us.... Their prey had arrived.
Seeing how many they were really demoralized me.
I reported in very high spirit, expecting something close or similar to AFSB experience but once the prep wingers were done with us for just that day, reality became clear to me.... LOL.

They made us hunch again not giving a f**k about our battered legs, hungry stomachs, thirsty tongues and weakened body.... They would give you a timing to hunch to a particular place with your kaya (luggage) and when you fail to make it, you'll be made to carry your kaya to the back and start all over again.... Meanwhile, the time they gave was ridiculous to say the least..... We suffered injustice...and malice....

We managed to hunch to the front of the mess and got a little relief as pillow case, blanket, bucket and battalion vest was being issued to us.

I was given myand my Dalet battalion vest.
Yes, I was given my dream battalion that day in sports complex... Couldn't be happier...

We moved into the lines looking out for the bunk that had our names printed on it. I saw mine and quickly packed my kaya there...

For acting sluggishly, a prep winger pumped my jaw thrice? It was hot! Man, I thought physical contact wasn't allowed?

It was getting dark already so they wheeled us to the mess for dinner....

TBC

Those prep wingers had no chill at all.

Onigawara:
It was raining heavily the day I reported which was on the 14th of August. It was a Sunday morning. The bikeman dropped me off at the entrance of sports complex where the documentation was taking place..... I was among the first few cadets that reported that day. Prep wingers hadn't arrived so things were going pretty smoothly and peacefully. Meanwhile, it didn't take long before they arrived and from the moment they did, our peace was cut shut. Anytime we weren't on the desk verifying our documents,they would wheel us to the back where they made us suffer.....
Squat on your toes.... Shut ur eyeballs, tongues out....WAVE! WAVE!! WAVE!!!.
We thought this was the worse that could happen untill we finished our documentation and an officer told one of em to wheel us to the sports complex to hunch....

We hunched, hunched and hunched...we hunched round the standard football pitch in the sports complex 3 good times. I'm sure we ended up impressing those damn frogs that were croacking all over the place.
By the time I got up, my legs were already shaking like a faulty generator that is about to turn off on its own...

There was something I did that warranted me an extra job compared to what my coursemates served...I'm not gonna divulge it

The prep winger wheeled me to a bush, instructed me to BURST MY SHIRT AND RUSH INTO THAT GRASS!
I did not understand what he meant untill I saw one of my coursemate already KNACKING somewhere else....

I replicated what he was doing.... Removed my shirt and began to forward roll in that tall, scratchy grasses... I knacked, knacked and knacked to the point that he asked me
WHERE IS YOUR SHIRT? And I was looking around for my shirt that was just at my front but i couldn't find it.... I was seeing close to triple by the time he was done with me

I wore my shirt back after getting back together and went to carry my kaya (load)...
It was time to go to candidates village.

I was already feeling very dizzy to the point that I was staggering like a local drunkard...
DO YOU WANT TO FAINT? Asked one of the civilians there? I shook my head.
I mamsad my bag and was about to head towards the bus that was supposedly to carry us to our destination when one of the prep wingers instructed at the top of his voice.... CARRY THAT LOAD ON YOUR SKULL, SQUAT DOWN AND HUNCH TO THE BUS....

Believe me, I squatted but couldn't move a muscle. I was gassed out... We all were!
But an air force officer sitting by noticed me and had compassion. He told the prep winger to allow me carry my load on my hand and walk to the bus which was like 150m away.

Getting to the bus I met my coursemates already serving jobs. OH LORD, IS THIS WHAT I SIGNED UP FOR?
I joined up and flew two man.
We flew 2 man, switching from time to time. I was already regretting being a cadet and could sense others feeling the same way. But we already signed an oat few hours ago meaning there was no going back now...

Some cried, one lamented that he gives up and wants to go home but the prep wingers only derived more pleasures in our sufferings.

PUTTEE PUTTEE ENDURANCE, MALICE AND INJUSTICE, WICKEDNESS OF PREP WINGERS...
We repeated and repeated while serving malicious jobs.

We were supposed to relocate to candidate village with the bus but the instead made us walk it while carrying our huge luggages on our big heads. We were all tasty, hungry and worn out. But in the academy, NO ONE cares. We managed to reach and finally crossed the gate of candidates village... Finally I'm gonna have myself a good bath, a nice treat and even probably a good sleep after the stressful day, I thought to my niave self....

Suddenly we were welcomed by dozens of more prep wingers rushing to us like a lion rushing towards that precious prey... They were expecting us and at once we realized how doomed we were...

To be continued....

Wow.

Onigawara:
I'm going to give a little summary of my real life experience in the NDA. AFSB is excluded, note. Informations that should remain Restricted/Classified will remain so, so I expect everyone to be satisfied with the little I can drop...

Cc: Stormtrooper11

Nice

Onigawara:
I'll try recovering that email address tonight...

Sure

Onigawara:
I'll write maybe a few soon

I sent an email tho

GreenandGold:
It's the MBB/Kawasaki BK 117

Looks like the kiowa

jl115:
Mmmmm I'd rather take my chances with the ground than the blades

Negative. The ka 50 and ka 52 are designed with an ejection mechanism that triggers the explosion and detachment of the main rotor blades before ejecting the pilot/pilots with the seat.

The frame of this attack helicopter might be a rugged and surviving frame especially during crashes, but ejection is effective.

jteku:
For countries represented here if your country was to go for an attack helicopter in an urban warfare let's say like Ukraine, sentiment aside between the 2 below which would you prefer.

It is certain that there are many capable and dangerous military attack helicopters in the world, but what is the best of the best? The two most capable and lethal attack helicopters are undoubtedly the Boeing AH-643 Apache Guardian that serves for the USAF and the Kamov Ka-52 Alligator that is operated by the Russian Air Force. It would be pretty interesting to find out which is the most powerful and advanced helicopter out of these two.

Surely the Ka 52 alligator. I got a number of reasons.

As a Nigerian, I will love my country to purchase military equipment that can perform for at least a decade and the Ka 52 trumps the ah-64 in my opinion.

We have less restrictions, it has a lower flyaway cost and also has an ejecting seat as a bonus.

The ah 64 might be slightly faster but the ka 52 has a longer range.

mostob:
Undisputable.
Kar should have try and force his way out of Tottenham. A striker of his Calibre deserves a trophy .

Exactly, chief. He really needs a trophy. How I wish Haaland was English. He would had competed much closely with Mbappe on the world stage

Mbappe >>>>>> Harry Kane

Lol, someone was saying griezmann carries France. MBAPPE CARRIED FRANCE, DUDES!!!!!!!!!!

Onigawara:
Good to know....
well, about the experience... i could fill this forum writing about it lol
in summary.. we experienced alot to get to where we are.

Lol. I understand that. Maybe a summary. Just glad that you stayed put and didn't dash.