₦airaland Forum

DapoBear:
Meh, Nigeria is not some nice place where you can win without bending the rules. You have to be a bit ruthless to succeed in this country. It isn't like he plundered Lagos. He awarded himself a contract based upon the amount of IGR the state generates. That he grew the revenue base a lot means he also increased his profit a lot, too.

Anyway, nothing I can say or do will make you guys not despise him

I am glad we had this talk

I wish Funsho Williams was still around. But eh, what can I do.

It is not just that alone. It is about the evils he committed while in the state house. The lifes he took, the careers he ruined, the lies, the crimes, the exploitations, and everything else he did as governor of the state. He is a glory seeking mofo, with zero interest in helping the masses. He is in for the money, and the power.

Ileke-IdI:
23 yrs ago.

Yeah right

I get it

23 years 2010 years ago

Now I understand

Looking great nonetheless!

^^^^
BTW, I dont think a 43 yr old gal looks like that!

Abagworo:
I don't think Igbos should be talking about an Igbo seaport because the seaport at Lagos is not Yoruba seaport and PH is not Okrika seaport.The problem with Bayelsa is that FG cannot fund the amount of money required for a seaport at Brass and the accompanying infrastructure.Lagos was successfully built because it had that edge of being a federal capital and secondly the terrain is not as difficult as Bayelsa.

Ok oooooo

Lagos seaport is Igbo seaport then!

Everything belongs to Igbo, innnit?

Fraudulent mofos!

DapoBear:
http://..com/2009/06/gov-fashola-dpa-and-alpha-beta.html

His company collects taxes on behalf of Lagos, it appears. The 15% fee the article claims seems way too high for this service, if true, probably 5% is a better rate. And it is of course lame to give the contract to yourself, or a company you indirectly control.

But I dunno if this quite qualifies as "stealing."

Definitely, there is conflict of interest

If you can't trust him on an issue like this, how can you trust him ever?

The guy is just a shady guy.

Me likes him not!

DapoBear:
Can you provide some sort of documentation or reference for this? When were they refused this seaport? Under which administration?

BTW, I'm not calling you a liar, I just want to understand the circumstances surrounding the event.

The guy does not have any proof

He is just pulling stuff out of hid 'dorty' despoiled ars-e

chyz:
Well i guess that means we're all yorubas.

Glad you are coming to terms with your real self

However, if you want to be part of us, you have to formally apply!

chyz:
Incompetent how? Explain. And who are they? Is calabar Igboland?

Y'all are the same

No difference

Incompetent, fraudulent mofos!

DapoBear:
Another recent article:
So again, how is this a massive conspiracy? How is the Yoruba man responsible for the Calabar River being shallow and filled with dirt?

You should not be arguing with these people

They will do anything to discredit the Yoruba race.The Ibo race has a real problem with us and I think they are what the dictionary calls a "Viewer. "  They like to watch other people. There are some guys who, when they are at home, have this big telescope to look into the homes of other people and see what is happening. The Ibo race  must be one of them - and it is a sickness

MandingoII:
Ibime

continue enjoying the crumbs tossed from the Your Colonial Forefathers table.

Hey Pal:

Continue to enjoy the crumbs tossed from your Slave masters' table.

Soon you would have to rely on Habla enspanol for your daily bread.

DapoBear:
This I think was the key:

The federal gov't starving Lagos forced Lagos to become fiscally independent. Now Lagos can pursue its own agenda, regardless of what the federal government does or says.

Fiscal independence leads to political independence. I hope the rest of the SW learns from this example and look to grow their own internally generated revenue base.

Nah, This is what I think is the key:

However, Tinubu’s much-talked about political prowess is not celebrated in all quarters and certainly not all individuals are thrilled by his touted courage. Kofoworola Bucknor-Akerele, who served as a deputy governor under Tinubu, is not one of those singing his praises. She told the magazine that Tinubu’s success and rising political profile are only made possible because of his enormous wealth which according to her, he flaunts to get what he wants. “Anybody who has his kind of money should be able to do the things he is doing if he is sensible. If I have his kind of money, my profile will be rising by the day,” Bucknor-Akerele said, arguing that Tinubu is not as charismatic as many believe. “What does the job is money not charisma,” she insisted.

According to the former deputy, it would amount to an insult for anybody to compare Tinubu with Awolowo, a man she described as not just a great politician but also an intellectual. “How can anybody compare him (Tinubu) to Awo? Awo was an intellectual and a great leader but Tinubu is not.” The same argument was also put forward by Ishola Williams, a retired army general and rights activist. Though he admitted that Tinubu is a democrat who fought the military regime, he, however, said that he does not belong in the class of Lateef Jakande, former governor of Lagos, and Awolowo, both of whom he said was people-oriented politicians. To Williams, new generation politicians like Tinubu try to use money to gain popularity and acceptance.

Some people believe Tinubu, like many; still have to explain the source of their wealth. They recall that in 2007, Nuhu Ribadu, former chairman of the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission, EFCC, said the commission was investigating Tinubu in a case that had an international dimension. The Code of Conduct Bureau also accused him of operating some 16 foreign accounts in the names of his wife and children, as against the provisions of the 1999 Constitution, which bar serving public officials from operating accounts outside the shores of Nigeria. But Tinubu denied the allegations, charging the EFCC to publish the dates the said foreign accounts were last operated. The EFCC is yet to take up the challenge. Ironically, both Ribadu and Tinubu are today in the same political camp, the ACN. Ribadu, by a twist of fate, may become the presidential candidate of ACN

Chrisbenogor:
ROTFLMAO
[b]So only citizens can plead the first amendment? ROTFLMAO why did I not listen to people that say you are only trying to sound intelligent?[/b]When you are on american soil you are treated according to american laws, you have the right to not implicate yourself, YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO PLEAD THE FIRST AMENDMENT. If he is not a citizen and you charge him with the espionage act that is an american law you expect to try him with what laws from your village? Go and clean your act up well abeg, you are coming across like a beer parlour pundit.

You only have yourself to blame

I warned you!

^^^

Why are you guys so gung ho about America?

Who cares what some random close minded,soon-to-die mofos have to say about the world

You sho iz funny!

AKON EGBA FROM IGBOKUTA = IGBOBUIGBO = ENVIRONER




WHAT THE HELL?

Blazay:
Still fishing for my state of origin huh?
Why would any sane creature be proud to identify with ANY part of Nigeria?
The only people I will for ever respect in Nigeria are the Northerners.

Hausaman from Ghana

Makes sense; your hatred for Nigeria, and love for your fellow Abokis

Now the whole shenanigan about 'Z' makes sense

Too bad you make your living in Nigeria; when I am in town, will make sure to look for you


Now it makes sense why you don't take part in tribal politics; cos you dont understand it


You only know people in Abuja a la Atiku, GEJ, and OBJ

Anyway, say hi to 'Z' for me!

Blazay is a Hausaman from Ghana
I am sure!

cover my eyes ke?


Olohun ma ba temi je

After I am done WATCHING you, I will WASH you.

ANd then I expect you to gbeja fun mi Big time!

I am a wife beater; only Igbo wifes though!

^^^^

Blame the Yoruba man, as always!

Can I WATCH you too


I'd love to WATCH you take shower

Dyt:
I ll watch every of your family members clothes

Why do you have WATCH them?

jmaine:
If you are really a northerner. . . then i now see why that region clearly lacks behind in all affairs of the country. . . what a manner of displaying how aberrant you are, Damn !

I think the old MOFO is either SSoutherner or Ghanian

^^^

What about Lagos?

Ode!

Yeah, my father loves the Igbo culture, so he gave us all Igbo middle names


Well, you can be whatever online. I have chosen to be anti-Igbo online. I love riling people, especially, my friend Igbobuigbo.

In real life, I am the nicest person you will ever meet.


Anyway, may I continue with my anti-Igbo rhetorics?

And why would your fictional Alj Harem give his child a Yoruba name, and why whoul Alj Harem's child give his children strictly Yoruba names? I have an Ibo middlename, but even if I lived in the SE all my life, I still would not consider or give my children strictly Igbo names. Why would I?


And as for your claim that there are some very prominent Ilorin families which were founded by Hausa slaves; I do not doubt that. What I do know is that those households know their history very well, and it is not unlikely that they actually consider themselves Hausa.

My principal in secondary school, who was from Ilorin, had a muslim last name, and a Yoruba sounding first name. We all thought he was Yoruba, until he told me himself that he his Hause, by history and personal preference.

It doesnt matter how the outside world labels them, the most important thing is the history, not even their own personal preference.

DapoBear:
@fstranger: My overall point is that you can be go from Group X to Yoruba in one generation. Even if your father is from Group X.
For example, I know this chick in Maryland who's father is Fulani, mother Yoruba. Father is some big customs agent dude in Lagos, or something. Yet she considers herself Yoruba. She uses her Yoruba name instead of her Muslim one, most of her friends are Yoruba, speaks Yoruba fluently but doesn't speak any Northern languages. I think everyone would agree that she is primarily Yoruba, and by no means a Northerner, yes? Despite having a Fulani last name and a Fulani father?
My point is that if say Alj Harem's last name were Muhammad or something, and his grandchild has a Yoruba first or middle name, then who is to say that that grandchild is from Borno? Despite being named Babatunde Mohammed, and his family having lived in Lagos for 3 generations? This is not how things work in Yoruba culture; I am certain of it. Like I said earlier, there are some very prominent Ilorin families which were founded by Hausa slaves. I do not think Yoruba culture is as rigid as you suggest.
An interesting possibility.

Exactly how Tinubu became a pseudo-Lagosian. Everyone, as you can tell already on NL, even Igbos and Hausas, if given the chance, given the political and socio-economic situation in Nigeria, would rather claim to be from Lagos, than anyother state in the federation. Anyone can claim to be from anywhere, but NO the chic you used in your rebuttal is not primarily Yoruba. She may see herself as Yoruba, like I see myself as a Lagosian, to her parents and family, she is still Fulani.


Well it is not my duty to accept or deny someone as Yoruba. However, if you spend some time with the real custodian of the culture, you'd realize that is is as strict, if not stricter, than I have portrayed it.

raycomray:
Madam Kobojunkie, you impress me a lot with your arguments & comments. Pls keep it up. I love intelligent & academic threads like this.

You must have a very low IQ
Cant you see that she is always shifting the goal post, with no clear motive and target.

She argues mostly for the sake of just arguing
Look at her comments, and you would realize how nonsensical she is.

I agree, she writes well, but that should not be mis-interpreted as writing sensibly.

First of all, Muhammad is a muslim name, and since the religion is not peculiar to the North, you really cannot make any assumption about the name. You could have an Ibo man bearing the name as well. So the name Muhammad does not really tell you much about the state of origin of the bearer; you have to dig deeper by either looking for the first name or the middle name of such an individual


As for Seriki, thats a little difficult.  I am not really sure of its history. All I do know is that Seriki is a last name borne mostly by individuals, when of Yoruba ancestry,  claiming to be of Lagos or Kwara indigene. I don't want to speculate, but I do think that Seriki, as a word, has a Yoruba meaning, if not origin, independent of its Hausa interpretation.

DapoBear:
Yeah, Tinubu isn't from Lagos, I have heard.
Supposedly the same is true for Fashola. . .
I'm not sure that this is true. The more I read about Yoruba history and culture, the more I am beginning to see that lots of non-indigenes became accepted. Lots of Yoruba with the last name "Seriki", which I think means "chief" in Hausa. Very likely they have some sort of Hausa ancestry.
Some more concrete examples:
[list]
[*] The Hausa slaves of Ilorin who became Yoruba-ized and founded certain houses/families which today are prominent.
[*] Similar situation with certain Hausa in Ibadan in the 1940s and 50s.
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Regarding @Alj Harem. . . hmm. If he has a son who fluently speaks Yoruba, hangs out with Yoruba people in Lagos, does other things to associate himself more with the Yoruba community rather than the Northern one in Lagos. . . well, this son may not be able to run for governor of Lagos. But if the son marries some Yoruba woman in Lagos and has a child, very likely Alj Harem's grandchild would be considered a Lagosian Yoruba, no?

Tinubu is from Iragbiji, a sururb in Osun State
Fashola is from Ekiti. Very obvious from his last name; remember Fayemi, Falana, Fajuyi, Fawole, Fashola, all Ekiti names.


As for your question? NO. State of origin is paternally decided. As long as you have a northern surname, you will always be labeled a northerner