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TheGoodJoe:
You don't.

You can say whatever about Rohr's football knowledge but the truth is that he doesn't know as much as he knows about our team despite being our longest serving coach so serving office does not necessarily mean that somebody knows much about his job

TheGoodJoe:

If they ask you if the Technical Director of the Super Eagles and former captain, and former coach of the Super Eagles know the current players in the team, what will you say?

Rohr is our longest serving coach and I know more than him about our boys

TheGoodJoe:

So you can see why you interjecting in such manner is uncalled for. I want to do a research of him and I made a guess how he would play and then you start barking he won trophies..

I have my reasons why I feel he is negative. I may be wrong but that is my guess.

How did you make a guess on how a coach would play without any information about him other than his name? I tell you how you did it, it is because of your hate for Pinnick so any appointment he makes is automatically bad and there is no need to research before lambasting any potential appointment

TheGoodJoe:

You are not in contention for the job and you don't know a tenth of what Eguavoen knows about the boys. And Morais does not know a quarter about the boys.

If he comes in, Eguavoen and co will need to school him about the boys.

If I ask you how you know how much Eguavoen knows about the boys you will repeat guess

TheGoodJoe:
Winning trophy does not show whether a coach is offensive or not. Many coaches play negative to win but as I say, those are short term victories and with time it will show that the team is not growing.

By the way, I said I can GUESS he is a negative coach. Note the word guess. Some of you are fond of arguing without getting the context of the discussion.

I don't know Morais but I can Guess he is a negative coach. Telling me he won trophy does not show attacking football.

Nawa o, how do you guess he is a negative coach based on his name or what? And isn't the Afcon our next objective

TheGoodJoe:
With the Super Eagles?

Obviously not

TheGoodJoe:

At least Eguavoen knows the team's. He knows the players. He understands our football and knows some of the coaching crew.

With a few days to the competition, he can try to get the team up to speed in preparation for the tournament.

You think Morais has an idea about our team?

Well I know the players too but that does not mean I'm a brilliant coach, knowing the players is not automatically going to generate the tactics for us to win the Afcon, well we look at how things unfold in the coming days

TheGoodJoe:


What do you know about Morais that you believe he should be given the job?

Well I know he has won 5 major league trophies and 1 individual trophy in the last 10 years what do you know?

TheGoodJoe:

As far as I am concerned, this is what is wrong with Amaju Pinnick.

Before going out to look for a coach, the technical committee supposed to have drawn how we intend to play and the pattern should serve as the yardstick for selecting a coach.

I can Guess we are back to square one with another conservative manager.

Pinnick should have allowed Eguavoen go to the tourney.

Well it is his NFF.

What do you know about Morais to know he is a conservative manager and what do you know about Eguavoen to know he should be given the job for Afcon, well anything to have a go at Pinnick

daveP:
Cos that's what i noticed throughout their equalizer goals. Either he was far off or not noticing his man.

Anyways that's a nice one. Rodgers bottling this shocked me. Or the players are just a mess.

Na wa o, You no know Rodgers

komekn:
I don't think so.

9 goals in the EPL this season is not Dodo and Beans.

Daka was much better than Vardy in that match

Mujtahida:
Technique should be how you handle something. For me composure, decision, positioning making all go into style of play.

Composure, decision making all make up an individual's styles of play but styles of play are further divided into two simple and complex technique deals with the simple and basic aspects of football like trapping, controlling, passing and kicking while skill deals with the complex aspects of play like rabona and rainbow flicks

(note: Simple here does not mean easy just not multi- layered)

What Osimhen went through was a face injury not even a head injury, The guy should have been ready even before now

daveP:
If highlights is enough, Ndidi have no business doing CB job o.

Back foot things.

Ndidi was monstrous the whole match, just a lack of concentration in the final minutes overall he was still man of the match for Leicester

TheGoodJoe:

There are different techniques. Passing, dribbling, crossing, trapping etc.

Pirlo can be good at passing technique but not exceptional in dribbling technique.

Mtweew

TheGoodJoe:

Which one is most simple task? Leave what they are defining and explain what you understand by technique.

It is grade.

We have people who are good with the ball but have poor decision making. That is good technique poor intelligence.

We have those that are terrible with the ball but very brilliant in their knowledge of the game.

Poor technique but high intelligence.

We have players that are exceptional with the ball and exceptional with their decision making.

High technique and high ibtell.

We have those that are poor with the ball and poor in decision making.

Poor technique poor intelligence.

Finito.

Leave grade we are still on the definition, technique is still on the basic tasks of football, we have differing levels of techniques from poor to outrageous but they are still based on the simple tasks of football, Pirlo has outrageous technique doesn't mean he dribbles everybody on the field it means he controls and passes the ball exceptionally well, Finito.

drDoom3:
Technique is how well you execute tasks with the ball. It could be anything from passing to shooting etc. irrespective of your strengths or position.

Technique is how you execute simple tasks, skill is how you execute difficult to ridiculous tasks, you would not find a rainbow flick under technique

TheGoodJoe:

You make decisions with your head. Not with the ball. You use techniques to carryout decision making.

As I said, it goes with grade.

Technique is what you can do with the ball. Decision making with your head.

A player can be brilliant at dribbling but his intelligence needs development.

He can make unnecessary runs. He can make poor decisions by passing to the wrong player. With the right intelligence, he can become a better player with his technique.

You make decisions with your head and carry it out on the ball, everything a player does is on the ball technique or not is from the head, now those who define technique define as the most simple of ball tasks regardless of grade I don't know why this is hard for you to understand

TheGoodJoe:
Decision making is not technique. That is intelligence. They are two different things.

Now with intelligence, you can know the perfect pass to make but if you have poor passing technique, you can not pull off a brilliant decision.

Technique is what you do with the ball. Intelligence is without the ball. What you put together in your head.

You said technique is what you do with the ball but decision making is not technique, don't you make decisions with the ball though passes, back passes do you make them with your head? If you want to to reduce everything to intelligence then crosses, passes, trappings are all intelligent decisions, the people who defined technique as the most basic of the football element defined it well

TheGoodJoe:

How well is not technique but grade. Some players have poor technique and others have good technique.

So technique is not how well. Technique is ability with the ball.

Some have good trapping techniques. Some have good crossing technique. Some have good dribbling technique.

Some are better with dribbling techniques but are poor when it comes to their passing technique.

Technique is not just ability with ball, where do you put decision making, composure? Technique is simple, how well do you do the basics of football and like every other thing some players have good technique some have average or poor technique

Iheanacho sef

Rodgers should have removed Vardy but seniority...

TheGoodJoe:

That is just one small aspect. I have my own term of technique.

Technique is what you can do with the ball. Is as simple as that. From passing to tricks. Is all technique.

Dribbling skills is technique too.

Technique is far from what you can do with the ball, technique is how well you control the ball and how well you can execute basic functions with the ball

Rodgers does not have the mind to remove Vardy rather he removes Daka

TheGoodJoe:

Why don't you tell us?

Technique is essentially the basics of football from your first touch to your weight of pass to your angle of passes to your distribution of body weight, it seems some people are confusing skill with technique

drDoom3:
Aribo has better technique than Iheanacho, Iwobi, and Nwakali. Osimhen's technique is a bit better than Aribo's though, but Osimhen is not as sleek. Iheanacho has excellent shooting and good passing but is poor everywhere else, Iwobi when not confused can pull off the odd skill or pass but is poor everywhere else. Nwakali from the little I've watched in the Segunda is just lazy on the pitch. He doesn't like getting his shirt dirty.

Ejuke is the only player in our team that arguably has the best technique, slightly better than Osimhen and Aribo.

Please tell me what is technique?

drDoom3:
Vardy is the striker closest to Osimhen of all the top strikers. Forget Vardy doesn't have the height and the athleticism, he has everything else Osimhen has.

Well he doesn't have the aggression that sets him out from Osimhen

Daka is more closer to Osimhen than he is to Vardy

komekn:
Not every body understandd that you can have great dribbling skills but poor first touch and even poorer decision making.

I am yet to understand what the guy thinks technique is

Meliforme:
If dribbling is all you see in Ejuke's game, then maybe you don't know the player that i am talking about, or you don't watch him.

Talking about technique, Aribo doesn't come close. Do you know that Iheanacho, Iwobi, should i add Nwalkali, and even Victor Osimhen have more technique in their game than your Aribo.

It is obvious some of us on this thread doesn't know what technique in football is.

What is there in Ejuke's game, maybe you are watching a different player than the rest of us if you can mention a technical attribute he has more than Aribo then I can take you seriously, saying that Osimhen has more technique than Aribo shows you are not serious

Meliforme:
Is Iwobi better in decision making than Ejuke?

I have been reading Ejuke is poor in decision making and i want to address that misinformation.

I am not in any way saying he should man the AM role.
He suits best as a winger.

There is nothing special about the AM role.
Wingers can also dictate play and create goal scoring chances.
Wingers can link the midfield with the attack. EJuke does that for CSKA Moscow from the wings, his speed and technique enables him to do that.

I also want to point out the fact that no player in the current crop has more technique than Ejuke. Even Ebere Eze and Olise do not show the same level of technique as Ejuke.

Iwobi and Ejuke are even better candidates for the AM role than the Aribo some of you guys keep mentioning.

Technique is not step over and dribbles bro, currently Aribo has the best first touch in the world (go and check football manager) and it is an insult to compare him to Ejuke on technique

komekn:
It seems a lot of you are CAUGHT UP in a nostalgic era of entertainment football. Where dribbling, showboating without commensurate end product was the order of the day.

Sorry to inform you that FOOTBALL HAS MOVED ON, that kind of football is pleasing to the eyes but will not win you tournaments.

It's now about cohesion, work rate and END PRODUCT, I really do hope that my friend Eguavon is not sentimental and emotive about a bygone era that no longer exists.

It's the same mentality that makes you assess players based on youth football exploits of donkey years ago.

Dribbling showboating without end product is essentially rubbish in today's highly tactical and disciplined strategic planned football environment.

I remember when Mahrez, Raheem, etc did all that dribbling and showboating, they don't do that anymore , it's all about END PRODUCT.

There is such emotive bias among many here some are blinded by sentiment based preference not HERE and NOW performance.

In this regard KC is off the boil , essentially out of his 5 seasons at Leicester in the EPL he has had only one very good season the rest 3 and a half have been abysmal. He should be dropped until he finds form for now.

The HERE and NOW forward players are Awoniyi and Dennis they are doing better than Victor O. as it stands currently. Many will not like that .

I really believe after suffering a serious fracture to the face including eye socket he should not be going to the AFCON. He should be allowed to recover properly and get match fit.

Nwakali is a non starter , has DONE NOTHING WHATSOEVER to deserve a call up to the SE, he is not even outstanding in the lower quality Segunda Division.

The hypocrisy and bigoted double standard we show here is mind boggling. When I would mention Nigerian origin players in the Championship, many here will be screaming bias and prejudice. That the Championship is a poor level for the SE.

Not too long ago our arguably best Midfielder Etebo, after a very good World cup went to Stoke in the Championship. I actually expected him to be the next Ngole Kante, but it didn't happen, he was ok but not outstanding in the league. That accolade of outstanding went to Olise, Eze, Ovie, etc

Luckily Etebo is in the EPL playing for Watford currently not too much to report he is injured and will be out for month's.

The Championship is a league where young players leave and go straight to the top leagues and clubs more than any other second tier league in Europe. Omar Richard left Reading straight to Bayern Munich another example.

We have centred on a very few number of players and ignored the rest, players who are not necessarily making waves.

We still talk about Sadiq from the Segunda Division on a very regular basis. Some even compare him to Adebayo giving him all kinds of accolades . He has scored 8 goals in the Segunda Divisions. Elijah who plays for Luton is not in the mix although he has scored 10 in the Championship. Personally I really don't rate both of them as SE quality.

Some have decided to practice quasi tribalism with Nigeria origin players in Europe Vs Nigerian players from Nigeria. Not sure why ❓are some more Nigerian than others. Showing prejudice and open discrimination.

Terms are used like " he is one of our own" etc it's just petty small minded ignorance and narrow mindedness. We even decide who we think is more patriotic in the Nigerian context.

Wow, I agree with you!