Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 10:52am On Dec 23, 2021 |
Mujtahida: Technique should be how you handle something. For me composure, decision, positioning making all go into style of play. Composure, decision making all make up an individual's styles of play but styles of play are further divided into two simple and complex technique deals with the simple and basic aspects of football like trapping, controlling, passing and kicking while skill deals with the complex aspects of play like rabona and rainbow flicks (note: Simple here does not mean easy just not multi- layered) |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 7:24am On Dec 23, 2021 |
What Osimhen went through was a face injury not even a head injury, The guy should have been ready even before now |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 7:17am On Dec 23, 2021 |
daveP: If highlights is enough, Ndidi have no business doing CB job o. 
Back foot things. Ndidi was monstrous the whole match, just a lack of concentration in the final minutes overall he was still man of the match for Leicester |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 11:10pm On Dec 22, 2021 |
TheGoodJoe:
There are different techniques. Passing, dribbling, crossing, trapping etc.
Pirlo can be good at passing technique but not exceptional in dribbling technique. Mtweew |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 11:07pm On Dec 22, 2021 |
TheGoodJoe:
Which one is most simple task? Leave what they are defining and explain what you understand by technique.
It is grade.
We have people who are good with the ball but have poor decision making. That is good technique poor intelligence.
We have those that are terrible with the ball but very brilliant in their knowledge of the game.
Poor technique but high intelligence.
We have players that are exceptional with the ball and exceptional with their decision making.
High technique and high ibtell.
We have those that are poor with the ball and poor in decision making.
Poor technique poor intelligence.
Finito. Leave grade we are still on the definition, technique is still on the basic tasks of football, we have differing levels of techniques from poor to outrageous but they are still based on the simple tasks of football, Pirlo has outrageous technique doesn't mean he dribbles everybody on the field it means he controls and passes the ball exceptionally well, Finito. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 11:01pm On Dec 22, 2021 |
drDoom3: Technique is how well you execute tasks with the ball. It could be anything from passing to shooting etc. irrespective of your strengths or position. Technique is how you execute simple tasks, skill is how you execute difficult to ridiculous tasks, you would not find a rainbow flick under technique |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 10:55pm On Dec 22, 2021 |
TheGoodJoe:
You make decisions with your head. Not with the ball. You use techniques to carryout decision making.
As I said, it goes with grade.
Technique is what you can do with the ball. Decision making with your head.
A player can be brilliant at dribbling but his intelligence needs development.
He can make unnecessary runs. He can make poor decisions by passing to the wrong player. With the right intelligence, he can become a better player with his technique. You make decisions with your head and carry it out on the ball, everything a player does is on the ball technique or not is from the head, now those who define technique define as the most simple of ball tasks regardless of grade I don't know why this is hard for you to understand |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 10:44pm On Dec 22, 2021 |
TheGoodJoe: Decision making is not technique. That is intelligence. They are two different things.
Now with intelligence, you can know the perfect pass to make but if you have poor passing technique, you can not pull off a brilliant decision.
Technique is what you do with the ball. Intelligence is without the ball. What you put together in your head. You said technique is what you do with the ball but decision making is not technique, don't you make decisions with the ball  though passes, back passes do you make them with your head? If you want to to reduce everything to intelligence then crosses, passes, trappings are all intelligent decisions, the people who defined technique as the most basic of the football element defined it well |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 10:36pm On Dec 22, 2021 |
TheGoodJoe:
How well is not technique but grade. Some players have poor technique and others have good technique.
So technique is not how well. Technique is ability with the ball.
Some have good trapping techniques. Some have good crossing technique. Some have good dribbling technique.
Some are better with dribbling techniques but are poor when it comes to their passing technique. Technique is not just ability with ball, where do you put decision making, composure? Technique is simple, how well do you do the basics of football and like every other thing some players have good technique some have average or poor technique |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 10:22pm On Dec 22, 2021 |
Iheanacho sef |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 10:20pm On Dec 22, 2021 |
Rodgers should have removed Vardy but seniority... |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 10:07pm On Dec 22, 2021 |
TheGoodJoe:
That is just one small aspect. I have my own term of technique.
Technique is what you can do with the ball. Is as simple as that. From passing to tricks. Is all technique.
Dribbling skills is technique too. Technique is far from what you can do with the ball, technique is how well you control the ball and how well you can execute basic functions with the ball |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 10:01pm On Dec 22, 2021 |
Rodgers does not have the mind to remove Vardy rather he removes Daka |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 9:59pm On Dec 22, 2021 |
TheGoodJoe:
Why don't you tell us? Technique is essentially the basics of football from your first touch to your weight of pass to your angle of passes to your distribution of body weight, it seems some people are confusing skill with technique |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 9:50pm On Dec 22, 2021 |
drDoom3: Aribo has better technique than Iheanacho, Iwobi, and Nwakali. Osimhen's technique is a bit better than Aribo's though, but Osimhen is not as sleek. Iheanacho has excellent shooting and good passing but is poor everywhere else, Iwobi when not confused can pull off the odd skill or pass but is poor everywhere else. Nwakali from the little I've watched in the Segunda is just lazy on the pitch. He doesn't like getting his shirt dirty.
Ejuke is the only player in our team that arguably has the best technique, slightly better than Osimhen and Aribo. Please tell me what is technique? |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 9:49pm On Dec 22, 2021 |
drDoom3: Vardy is the striker closest to Osimhen of all the top strikers. Forget Vardy doesn't have the height and the athleticism, he has everything else Osimhen has. Well he doesn't have the aggression that sets him out from Osimhen |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 9:36pm On Dec 22, 2021 |
Daka is more closer to Osimhen than he is to Vardy |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 8:58pm On Dec 22, 2021 |
komekn: Not every body understandd that you can have great dribbling skills but poor first touch and even poorer decision making. I am yet to understand what the guy thinks technique is |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 8:57pm On Dec 22, 2021 |
Meliforme: If dribbling is all you see in Ejuke's game, then maybe you don't know the player that i am talking about, or you don't watch him.
Talking about technique, Aribo doesn't come close. Do you know that Iheanacho, Iwobi, should i add Nwalkali, and even Victor Osimhen have more technique in their game than your Aribo.
It is obvious some of us on this thread doesn't know what technique in football is. What is there in Ejuke's game, maybe you are watching a different player than the rest of us if you can mention a technical attribute he has more than Aribo then I can take you seriously, saying that Osimhen has more technique than Aribo shows you are not serious |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 7:41pm On Dec 22, 2021 |
Meliforme: Is Iwobi better in decision making than Ejuke?
I have been reading Ejuke is poor in decision making and i want to address that misinformation.
I am not in any way saying he should man the AM role. He suits best as a winger.
There is nothing special about the AM role. Wingers can also dictate play and create goal scoring chances. Wingers can link the midfield with the attack. EJuke does that for CSKA Moscow from the wings, his speed and technique enables him to do that.
I also want to point out the fact that no player in the current crop has more technique than Ejuke. Even Ebere Eze and Olise do not show the same level of technique as Ejuke.
Iwobi and Ejuke are even better candidates for the AM role than the Aribo some of you guys keep mentioning. Technique is not step over and dribbles bro, currently Aribo has the best first touch in the world (go and check football manager) and it is an insult to compare him to Ejuke on technique |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 7:34pm On Dec 22, 2021 |
komekn: It seems a lot of you are CAUGHT UP in a nostalgic era of entertainment football. Where dribbling, showboating without commensurate end product was the order of the day.
Sorry to inform you that FOOTBALL HAS MOVED ON, that kind of football is pleasing to the eyes but will not win you tournaments.
It's now about cohesion, work rate and END PRODUCT, I really do hope that my friend Eguavon is not sentimental and emotive about a bygone era that no longer exists.
It's the same mentality that makes you assess players based on youth football exploits of donkey years ago.
Dribbling showboating without end product is essentially rubbish in today's highly tactical and disciplined strategic planned football environment.
I remember when Mahrez, Raheem, etc did all that dribbling and showboating, they don't do that anymore , it's all about END PRODUCT.
There is such emotive bias among many here some are blinded by sentiment based preference not HERE and NOW performance.
In this regard KC is off the boil , essentially out of his 5 seasons at Leicester in the EPL he has had only one very good season the rest 3 and a half have been abysmal. He should be dropped until he finds form for now.
The HERE and NOW forward players are Awoniyi and Dennis they are doing better than Victor O. as it stands currently. Many will not like that .
I really believe after suffering a serious fracture to the face including eye socket he should not be going to the AFCON. He should be allowed to recover properly and get match fit.
Nwakali is a non starter , has DONE NOTHING WHATSOEVER to deserve a call up to the SE, he is not even outstanding in the lower quality Segunda Division.
The hypocrisy and bigoted double standard we show here is mind boggling. When I would mention Nigerian origin players in the Championship, many here will be screaming bias and prejudice. That the Championship is a poor level for the SE.
Not too long ago our arguably best Midfielder Etebo, after a very good World cup went to Stoke in the Championship. I actually expected him to be the next Ngole Kante, but it didn't happen, he was ok but not outstanding in the league. That accolade of outstanding went to Olise, Eze, Ovie, etc
Luckily Etebo is in the EPL playing for Watford currently not too much to report he is injured and will be out for month's.
The Championship is a league where young players leave and go straight to the top leagues and clubs more than any other second tier league in Europe. Omar Richard left Reading straight to Bayern Munich another example.
We have centred on a very few number of players and ignored the rest, players who are not necessarily making waves.
We still talk about Sadiq from the Segunda Division on a very regular basis. Some even compare him to Adebayo giving him all kinds of accolades . He has scored 8 goals in the Segunda Divisions. Elijah who plays for Luton is not in the mix although he has scored 10 in the Championship. Personally I really don't rate both of them as SE quality.
Some have decided to practice quasi tribalism with Nigeria origin players in Europe Vs Nigerian players from Nigeria. Not sure why ❓are some more Nigerian than others. Showing prejudice and open discrimination.
Terms are used like " he is one of our own" etc it's just petty small minded ignorance and narrow mindedness. We even decide who we think is more patriotic in the Nigerian context. Wow, I agree with you! |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 1:36pm On Dec 21, 2021 |
Tinneh: The major problem in a 4-4-2 formation is risking being overun in midfield, those that watched leicester vs chelsea would have observed that without tielemans in that game leicester really struggled in that game as neither ndidi or soumary could control the tempo of the game, until maddison was subbed in...so for us to be effective with that formation we would need a cm who can control the tempo of the game, make tackes and be a good ball progressor.. Presently i dont think any of our cm has that skill set.. I also dont think a mid pairing of ndidi-aribo would be effective in a 4-4-2 formation My major problem with 4-4-2 is that it pushes wingers into midfielders and it just puts you in a defensive mode automatically |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 1:31pm On Dec 21, 2021 |
Tinneh: Lol wetin u expect before? 4-4-2 isnt bad if you have technically sound midfielders, also the overload on the wings is an added advantage, personally i feel its a nice formation if we get a good cm to pair ndidi.. Iheanacho/iwobi as ss Ejuke and samu on both flanks, oshimen wouldnt be short of supplies We literally don't have a midfielder that can play 4-4-2 and 4-4-2 is being phased out in the modern game |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 12:55pm On Dec 21, 2021 |
kingphilip:
what if you see Rohr analysis? I have watched hundreds of his interviews he doesn't know much about football |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 12:50pm On Dec 21, 2021 |
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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 12:46pm On Dec 21, 2021 |
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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 10:07pm On Dec 20, 2021 |
daveP:

Guy, no need to parade shut ups, cos no matter how you want to coat it, even down to me being ignorant about deals, we both know that was one deal that shows the level of acumen oga P has in his sleeves. Oh c'mon, spare me the cr7 talk. Its not comparable. Ok I am sorry for telling you to shut up, but Nike shirt contracts are not something that is haggled like market products, it is generally known that the producing company gets the lion share and the brand gets a compensation, how is it not comparable to Man U's shirt sales do you know that Nike made over 200 million from Cr7 shirt sales and Man U made a measly 13 million, no be today shirt contracts start to say that Pinnick was swindled like he was a kid |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 6:15pm On Dec 20, 2021 |
daveP: This is a good one. Its the short-sighted thinking that makes it look less reasonable. Life Insurance? If you don't know about business deals just shut up, imagine you calling Nike shirt contact unreasonable, Man U made only 13million Euros from all the Cr7 shirt sales and noise maybe you were expecting Nike and Nigeria to share the money 50:50 business mogul  |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 6:09pm On Dec 20, 2021 |
daveP: I'd have preferred a Brazilian for a tweak. European offer us nothing to fall back on since we've been relying on them for a while.
Once again, if true, our NFF crew reason like LGA football club owners. Brazilian coach? Do you know any reputable Brazilian coach, Europe is still the best when it comes to coaches |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 3:07pm On Dec 20, 2021 |
mirinder: Guys guys, i want to know, who is the greatest nigerian player ever? I'm doing a research. Andrew and co i greet you all Greatest is different from the most accomplished, if you know this you already know your answer |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 3:06pm On Dec 20, 2021 |
charlesemeka85: he is no attacking midfield. Study which image? Na wa o, make I study image to know Ademola Lookman is not an attacking midfielder |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 4:28am On Dec 20, 2021 |
Mujtahida: There's no need debating. As at today, the EPL is the best league in the world. And being best is not static. In the 90's it was the Italian league. Some few years back, it was the Spanish league. While the EPL has always been highly competitive, today it is the best and poor officiating in one or two games will not take that away. Gbam |