₦airaland Forum

Chemist009:
I talked about Yoruba because because there is a certain Akoko Edo local government in Edo, yorubas now think they have a stake in Edo..... And go about saying Edo is part of Yoruba land

Edo is never part of Yoruba Land.

Only Ishekiris and Olukumis share similar heritage with the Yorubas in the whole of the old Bendel region.

Most of the people that claim Edo is part of Yorubaland are neither Yorubas nor Edos.

Chemist009:
And some Nairaland sycophants who have never been to Edo wants everyone to believe that yorubas are indigenous to Edo and all the trash

The person is talking about Igbo and you are talking about Yorubas.

No one has ever added any part of Edo not to talk of ijaw land to Oduduwa Republic in the first place.

The most they have done is add Jekiri Aka Ishekiri to the map because of their ijebu origins

And perhaps Offa to Jebba and Okun areas in the North

The accusers should show us a map of Yoruba ever adding Ijaw lands to part of Oduduwa Republic

Torino234:
What's the name of the hatchery(company)

I think Ibadan.

Hunchogee:
Honestly bro its was shocking to know that onna and ikot abasi L.G.A get this kind road and the are currently building 2 fly over each in this towns

This is wonderful news but the government needs to also look at developing industries.

Competition for investments have made investment in infrastructures alone not sufficient enough to attract investment from the private sector.

I really hope Awka ibom reach new heights, I have a lot of diligent friends there.

Gandollar:
Who cares about Araokes..

Next..

How do you know Ilorin people are called Ara Oke?

Anyway, Ara Oke starts from Oke Ogun areas of Oyo state.

Hunchogee:
Men I tire for akwa ibom, them get road die. Even inside village
Please Lalaclata help take this on eto front page. Pls take am to top front page

The government in Akwa ibom is really doing well in the area of infrastructures

This is a world class road with a Well paved drainage system.

He raised some decent points but Farooq is a well known lair who once pronounced the death of someone that is still alive till today.

The theifing woman again

From sharing fake palliative to this

SLAP44:
Has the south west also been voting for Buharri before 2015?

You don't get it, do you?

North voted for Buhari by the ratio of 10 to 1 and have been doing it for almost ten years, so why accuse South west of electing Buhari or the current Northern leaders

helinues:
That guy deserves factory E-slapping resetting..

He will soon run from this thread.. Same guy that bluntly rejected NBS statistics just because his region is the poverty headquarter of South not think he can mock Northerners...

You know them too well

He is till trying hard to pin this on the South West somehow!

SLAP44:
No, the money is allocated to people whom the SW knows will never help the north

GEJ would have saved the north if he was allowed to continue his almajirin education policy but Tinibu chose a man who didn't go to school to come and scatter the plans. That's why I blame the SW for the woes of the north.

Lobatan !

So South West are powerful to the extent that they now elect Northern leaders in a democracy

Or you don't know that the North has been voting for Buhari even before 2015

SLAP44:
Are you not part of the people deceiving them?

You supported this disaster ruling them knowing fully well he will fail to change their situation. You the SW are the people benefitting from the rot while the north suffers. Tinibu supported Buharri because he knows the end result will be poverty for the innocent poor northern masses.

You mean the money meant for Northern governors are being allocated to South west governors?

Or Nigeria only started to exist in 2015 when Buhari won election?

Some people would not sleep tonight again oh

Yemi ikale is in trouble.

Amotolongbo:
Imagine the OP giving Oyo State Map to Akwa Ibom State

That was because Oyo state was on the original list but op cut it out due to envy.

This is not a accurate list by any standard

Check out the link below.

https://www.legit.ng/1094196-richest-states-nigeria-top-20-2020.html

2018 news

WoruSulyman:
@lawani
@PabloAfricanus

I was searching for historical facts and stumbled upon this interesting thread.

Firstly, I am amazed how black men are clawing at each other's throat with history which we have no way of verifying and at best, we all have biased and distorted knowledge of. To be clear, everybody telling you history; the Yorubas, Fulanis, Hausas, Igbos or even british will only tell you with them at the heroic centre of history, so which ever history you know is as wrong as it is right. Also other races are constantly degrading the black man and some try to deny it's liberty, it is sad we will do worse to ourselves in the name of history, one that divide us, and pride that is yet to raise the black race to the equal of all other race.

I am Ilorin in every sense of it and I have a modest understanding of it's history. I will like to clear some little misgivings I have seen on this thread.

1. Ilorin was founded by neither Afonja nor Alimi, it was a man Ojo isekuse who was the first settler in Ilorin. Ojo was a yoruba man. Ilorin was a meeting point for hunters, Ojo and his family were the sole settlers.

2. Ojo left after a scandal. The Asaju's settled, they are yorubas and settled around the Ilorin sharpening stone, their family house is still there. At this point neither Afonja nor Alimi resides in Ilorin.

3. Then the Sholagberus, they are said to be Fulanis. Then numerous small individual settlers came from both the north and the south. There was no town, just individual settlers, so no king. Though, each settlers congregated by tribe and they had individual leaders. It was said there was serikin gambari then for the hausa settlers. Note; no Afonja, no Alimi.

4. Alimi went to Oyo from Gwandu preaching Islam before backtracking to Ilorin because of political turmoil in the old Oyo empire. It was said that was the first time Afonja heard about the cleric.

5. Afonja had a falling out with the then Alafin because of a war he was sent to fight that he considered a suicide mission. By Oyo tradition, when you go to war it is either you win or you die in battle, if not, you will be compelled to commit suicide back home. Afonja refused and went to hide in Ilorin.

6. Alimi later got to Ilorin too. The Alaafin was furious and sent a punitive expedition to Ilorin for Afonja. Afonja knew he wasn't going to win against Oyo and he consulted Alimi for spiritual and military help.
Note: at this point Afonja had the most military power in the town but there was no king, no leader still individual settlements.

7. Alimi wrote to Gwandu for military support for Jihad, he was obliged. Then came the Jama'a to the area now called Ilorin, it wasn't still a town at that point, Oyo lost because the Oyo army wasn't expecting to meet the Jama'as calvary. The problem wasn't solved get.

8. Alaafin became much angry and sent message to Oyo's vassal states to send military men to finish the Afonja rebels/the Jama'a. The forces in Ilorin could not withstand the might of Oyo, so Alimi again wrote to Gwandu. Gwandu refused citing ongoing Jihad in the north.

9. Alimi informed Afonja that no reinforcement is coming, but they could adopt a strategy called a pre-emptive attack, this meant that before Oyo could organize it's army, Ilorin which is not too far from the old Oyo empire marched on old Oyo empire before they were prepared for war.

10. Old Oyo fell and was burnt to the ground. Former smaller tributary villages of Oyo close to Ilorin were scared of attack from Ilorin and brought gifts. There was vacuum in the leadership of Ilorin which by the fall of Oyo become a baby town. Alimi was far older than Afonja (his real name was Salihu and was given the alias Sheu Alim roughly meaning "knowledgeable elderly one) and by virtue that the superior military power in the town (the jama'as) were loyal to him, he was the defacto leader but never named an Oba or an Emir, he never lived in any palace.

11. He sent for his family from Gwandu, he had four(4) sons and a daughter. After his demise, there was leadership tussle between Afonja, Alimi's sons and the Ilorin mallams(Alimi met some mallams in Ilorin and they accepted him as their leader because of his superior Islamic knowledge). The mallams was laying claim to an Islamic caliphate that won't be hereditary but knowledge based, Afonja because the whole rebellion was about him and there wasn't a king to that point, while the sons wanted to continue where their father stopped.

12. The sons had superior military might, so they killed everybody that opposed their rule including Afonja. They started Ilorin Emirate and AbdulSalam became the 1st Emir of Ilorin and was succeeded by Shitta, the emirship has been shared by these twos descendants ever since.

13. On balogun Biala of Ajikobi, he became powerful during the reign of Oba Moma. He maneuvered the other baloguns against Moma and used the Emir's immediate junior brother in a rebellion against him, the Emir was killed and Sulayman was installed. Sulayman was naturally fearful of the powerful balogun(similar to bashorun gaa) and hence was loyal till the British invasion in 1897.

14. Lastly, Ilorin lost the jalumi war but was never at the threat of annihilation by Ibadan. In fact, Ilorin successfully annexed much of the smaller towns of yoruba land as tributary states, including some Ibolo, igbomina and Ekiti towns, even Jebba and Shao were being administered by Ilorin princes until very recently. Ibadan was the Yoruba town that blocked the path of Ilorin expansion southwards.

History is a curious thing, where we have been can explain to us a lot about where we are and it can guide us on where we are going. But history is delicate and should be approached with caution as sometimes when we get to the root of history, we may discover we are not even who we think we are.
Also, everybody moved from somewhere and dominated other tribes at a point. The history of the world is that of migration and no man germinated like a seed where they now call home. Ilorin is what it is, it is not hausa nor fulani nor yoruba, it is more than a tribe, irrespective of language, rulers or it's culture, an homogeneous society has emerged from it's heterogeneous make up and it is better to learn to live with that.
Ilorin is Ilorin.

And I expect more pan-Africa discussions among us not ethnocentrism that was planted by our colonists to always keep us apart.

Solagberu was a Yoruba Muslim

The first sets of Yoruba Muslim and he was the main character that supported Alimi's son to become the Emir.

Enwhen:
Pls take it easy with this Wike matter ooo


Gov El-Rufai, demolished political opponents Hunkuyi's house , we did't see your voice , Gov Gandolar did thesame in Kano, we didn't see anything , Gov Ayade jailed Jalingo , where u dey dey ?




Abeg no kill yourself for hatred towards person wey no know whether u exist o....Na them them...u stand to gain nothing from all these, hurstle well , so that tomorrow jobless people like u can write about u tomorrow ....thank u

@ emboldened are you sure people did voice their disappoints at those things you mentioned

If they didn't, you won't have heard about it.

I told people earlier that his family members often call him Agbola but he uses the Ibrahim to appeal to the North.

The writer who is from the North does not see him as Northerner but a Yoruba man, Majority of the Yorubas don't see him as Yoruba but a Northerner.

Anyways, the coming days should be interesting

Not a single Northern APC member have congratulated him yet.

Justiceleague1:
EMIR AYELABOWO
BAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAA!!!!!

Emir Ayelabowo V

babyfaceafrica:
The tapas I know speak Yoruba ó... Well sef.. Are they not the ones verse in the art of "sand divination"

I don't know much about their cultural heritage. tbh

Justiceleague1:
Shattap dia and go and bow down, dobale flat for your emir,thank you

Don't you have a nursery rhyme you should be reciting or something?

babyfaceafrica:
The bariba people speak batonoue, right?... Or they are different

I don't really know the local language of the Baribas but unlike Nupes who don't really speak Yoruba except for a few, they tend to speak and understand Yoruba well.

And apparently, they are were the first to settle some Core Yoruba states of today. E.g. Kishi in Oyo state today.

nairavsdollars:
Kwara is more of Northerner than Yoruba

Quite the contrary

Kwara has more people who identifies as Yoruba than Northerners

The highest percentage of non Yorubas are in Kwara north amongst the Bariba and Nupe. Yet, a good number of Bariba can speak and understand Yoruba because of our shared history.

Why do you think Yorubas or those linked to Yorubas have often won elections in Kwara state.

nairavsdollars:
State police
Resource control
Land tenure, that will solve Fulani herdsmen crisis

He would never support that now, otherwise he will risk the anger of the Fulanis in the core north who are not entirely pleased with his appointment as it is!

SLAP44:
If you noticed, the core zombies exited this forum since the news broke yesterday. They had to abandon everything else and return to restrategise.

Again, has El Rufai and other born to rule people congratulated the new man?

North don't really see Ilorin people as proper North and South west will never allow them take their slots in National politics.

Hence, they tend to be generally an orphan when it comes to national politics.

That was the main reason Saraki's embarrassment was quite easy for APC.