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Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by superior1: 11:37am On Jan 19, 2016
analice107:
Please friends permit me to post my first broadcast evangelism sermon(if I should call it that) here. And please brethren forgive me for being too conspicuous here, I feel am being to forward. Pls tolerate me. Thank you.

When I was instructed to go out for broadcast evangelism, I wasn't told how to do it. I had never done it before. So this is how I do it. I may be doing it wrong, that's why am posting here for correction and better direction. Thanks again.

JESUS, THE CHRIST: WHO IS HE?
Text:Matt 16:13-19.

When Jesus started His ministry, he chose His Apostles by Himself. He took them with him everywhere He went. He performed miracles before them, opened the eyes of the blind, healed the sick, raised the dead, cleansed the Lepers, and cast out demons before them all.
One day, it was a day of C. A. (Continuous Assessment) for his Apostles.
Jesus called all His disciples and Apostles to Himself,
and asked them,

WHO DO MEN SAY THAT I AM?

I have been going in and out of them, healing them, doing all this things in their midst. Who do they say I am Exactly?
His Apostles went wild, some say, you are Jeremiah, some say you are Elijah, some say you are John the Baptist, some say you are the prophet.

Okay, that's find, Jesus said. This is who the people (outsiders) say I am.

BUT, WHO DO YOU SAY I AM?
Everyone was silent. Who do you say am? I need to know. Because, you know me closely. The outsiders sees and observes me from afar, but you, you know me. I talk to them in parables, I talk to you in plane language, you go everywhere I go, you eat what I eat, you sleep where I sleep, I don't have secrets where you are. So, Who do you say I am?
Only Peter spoke up and said, YOU ARE THE CHRIST, THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD.

Jesus turned to him and said. "Flesh and blood had not revealed this to you, but my father who is in heaven, and upon this rock I shall build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."

Brethren, do you think it was necessary for Christ to demand this of His followers? For me, I think, Yes. Why?
I think because some of us are in church for all the wrong reasons. Some of us are in church, but not in Christ. Answering this question, will indicate who is in church and who is in Christ.
Some people are in church because they grew up following their parents to church, so it's a norm.
Some go to church because, it doesn't make sense not to go or believe there's no God. It's just a duty.
Some go because, their cute friends go, so they go to feel among. To them it's a social club kind of thing.
Some go because, the preachers have painted the picture of God as a Santa Claus to them. He has free gifts for all. Whatever you want, come and collect. No rules, no responsibilities, no demands. They come only for the gifts. They have no dealings with the giver. If they don't receive, God is wicked and doesn't exists.

The Master said, "flesh and blood has not revealed this to you." meaning, to truly know Christ, you need a revelation. And how do you get this revelation? It's a desire, a hunger, a thirst, a search, seeking. When your heart is truly tuned towards Him, He'll reveal Himself to you.
When you have a revelation of who Christ is, All you'll ever need is Christ. Christ is everything. I AM, THAT I AM. whatever you want Him to be, He is.
You will also know that you carry Him with you around. He is not restricted by space, not limited by time, or relegated to a place.
When you need Him to listen, all you need to do is speak up, or think it, or imagine it, He hears. He is not in Mountain of Fire, nor in Deeper Life, or in Winners Chapel. He is in you.

It's the converging of you, l, and him that makes up a church, not a mega building.

You don't need to see God through the eyes of your pastor. You don't need to hear God through the mouth of your prophet. You see Him through His Word. When challenged, you won't need to bust open your roof if your pastor doesn't come or your church members doesn't show up. You have the Word. If you can declare it, knowing, there is God to confirm it.
If there's a men to pray, then there's God to answer.
When you get to this point, going to church, will be as commanded.(not to neglect the assemblies of believers), To serve. to share, to encourage, and to charge others.
It will no longer be all about the pastor.
GOD DOES NOT HAVE GRAND CHILDREN. we are all children of God. Stop making God a grand father. Your pastor is not your Father. God is his Father, and so are you his child.
When he said, "come unto me" He didn't specify. Whosoever means, Whosoever.
When you have that revelation, all fear will be gone from you.
I can't imagine me, a princess, begging my father in our house for food, wen am hungry. I just reach out and take it.
I can't imagine taking communion, 'the totality and the completeness of Christ and still give my money to the doctor for treatment'. Beside, I can't imagine bacteria living in the same body where Christ lives in.

It's that revelation that keeps you from satanic manipulations.
That revelation brings you knowledge. That knowledge gives you confidence. That confidence makes you challenge Satan and say to him, bring it on.
It makes you laugh in the face of adversities.
It is this confidence that made Shadrach, Meshack and Abednego, look Nebuchadnezzar in the face and said "Live forever o King, you see? In this matter, we are not careful to answer thee, throw us into that fire if you like, our God, in whom we have trusted will deliver us from it, But, IF HE DECIDES NOT TO. we will still not bow down to your Idol. Do your worst.

It is that same confidence that made Daniel, after the edict has been passed, he went and opened his Windows so that everyone could see him, then bend down and prayed to his God, not considering the Lions.
It's that confidence that made the Coptic Christians to say to ISIS, behead us, but will not renounce Christ.
It is that confidence that's making Christians die in their thousands every day in Muslim territories, yet they stay true and won't deny Christ.
If you have this confidence, you won't be afraid of going to your village because witches are there. They will be afraid because you are coming.
If you don't have this revelation, you'll go the churches where your palms are being read, and your fortune foretold, and you'll call it counselling.
If you don't have this revelation, you'll go to a prophet who will sell you indulgence. Bring so and so amount of money and your sins will be forgiven. You'll buy one small bottle of anointing oil for Ten thousand naira, the costlier the better, and you'll believe.
If you don't have this revelation, you will worship images and Saints and call it honour or veneration.
If you don't have this revelation, when people call servants of God names, you will join and do the same. (Fighting against the body of Christ).
Without a revelation, you won't have compassion for the lost to go after them.

If you have that revelation, you'll understand what happened on the Cross of Calvary.
And He said, Upon this revelation that you have of me, I shall build my church.
because, with this revelation, you are firm, solid, grounded, unshakeable, immovable and unbreakable.
Do you have this revelation?
If you don't, you have a chance to do so now. Call on Him now. He is listening.
Praise the Lord.
I call this message woah!!, a very good Panadol for Sunday to Sunday nominal Christians. Can't find anything to edit save some minor typos and nothing to add. Chai!, I throway salute to this didaskalia o
Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by superior1:
Cont.

When suddenly Jesus appeared on the scene in the mist of fierce looking angels, there is bound to be commotion in the ranks and files of the prince of Garasenes (as it were in persia and tyrus so do every city have their ruling demon).

"What business do we have with each other, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I implore You by God, do not torment me!
Imagine using God´s name to even beg Him.

When the news spread and other demons heard what befell one of their area boss who has been entertaining them with mid-night howls; they will as a matter of urgency motivate their hosts to chase Him out with or without valid reasons. Some of their reasons may include

They just lost a herd of swine and that is not so economical for them, abi who go pay for dead swine??, this man na bad business for us

According to Matthew´s account, there were two mad men on the scene; it is safe to assume one took to his heels while the hosts of heaven held the other in place, they might have reason among themselves if Jesus kept at sending herds of swine per mad man into the sea, they will all soon lose their source of living (who knows how many mad men dey town)

In this gentile city (they kept swine, hence couldnt have been a Jewish city) as it is a custom in that era, it is very possible they had a strong man (an high priest) who was under the employ of the prince of Garasenes to act as mouth piece and tax folks under its bondage, if they do and he was as revered as they usually were, what do you think will be his advice??....chase that man away!, ask him to leave kiakia!!!, he has come to destroy our culture and to kill our swine, the gods are annoyed....chase him before the gods kill all of una!!! ....lol, they ruled by fear (I remember how those herbalists dey scare the living day light out of me before I met Christ, their message of doom pass TB Joshua own)

In summary and like oyeludef rightly pointed out, they were slaves and workers of darkness who couldnt stand the illumination of light because they simply preferred the evil of darkness.
Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by superior1:
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analice107:
But, the entire region hears about this great thing Jesus has done. They rushed out to see for themselves. And behold it's true. There, the man was, normal like every other person. As a matter of fact, he wanted to start evangelism right away.
But instead of the people inviting Jesus into their city, a least saying thank you, instead of them celebrating and rejoicing that which Jesus had done for them, "They asked that he depart from their region".
Go away and don't come back, we don't need you here, they said to him.
And am wondering, WHY?
were they happy in their situation?
were they happy that the man was the way he was?
WHY did they ask Jesus to get out of their region?
Cc. Oyeludef.
vooks
Superior
All of una, una plenty. Pls let's share.
these things confuses some of us.
Thank you all.
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Nice one Sister. This is one of the many stories I find interesting in the Bible because it gives a little insight into how things are in the spiritual realm and I will give some exposition before attempting the questions raised. Now, I love Dr. Luke´s narration more because like a good physician, he brought out some salient facts

Luke 8:28-29
28 Seeing Jesus, he cried out and fell before Him, and said in a loud voice, "What business do we have with each other, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I beg You, do not torment me."29For He had commanded the unclean spirit to come out of the man. For it had seized him many times; and he was bound with chains and shackles and kept under guard, and yet he would break his bonds and be driven by the demon into the desert
Firstly, this is a clear case of demonic possession and the demons although were many, the principal demon isn’t small boy, na´oga at the top´ kind of demon this can clearly be seen when you compare this scenario with other ministration where the demons departed immediately they were commanded of Jesus.

29 For He had commanded the unclean spirit to come out of the man
Meaning, they were still struggling inside the man even after Jesus have spoken to them to come out, why is this??

31They were imploring Him not to command them to go away into the abyss
They were afraid of abyss, you see even demons are afraid of defending down into the abyss because the kind suffer wey satan go suffer them no get part 2, satan do not forgive failure even if he couldn’t have done better, this attribute is equally common among occultists. From my experience, demons readily go out more when you command them to go out to some dry places than when you are commanding them to return to abyss(I am not even sure we get that right), they will put up their biggest fight.

32 Now there was a herd of many swine feeding there on the mountain; and the demons implored Him to permit them to enter the swine. And He gave them permission
Jesus permitted this to protect the man, deliverance ministration can be quite dramatic, ministers take expend very good effort and measure to protect folks from getting wounded and getting themselves equally wounded when demons begins to manifest (no be joke o, I have ministry friends handle a fella who was into karate at meditation level, when he began to manifest that demon, na kick he began to throw around o...lol, talking of watch and pray ministry, na deliverance be that o) but with experience sha one learns how to eliminate violent manifestations. Demons can try to kill their host and in some cases, they claw the person from inside until he/she develops physical internal wound and bleeding in their struggle not to be chased out. It is common for people to be tired physically after delivernace ministration.

Mark 5:5
Day and night he wandered among the burial caves and in the hills, howling and cutting himself with sharp stones
Moving to Mr. Mark´s narration, this case Jesus handled reminds me of what I was saying about vampires and werewolves earlier (The NLT translations said he was howling, family werewolves), I feel almost sure the man's physical appearance has been substantially altered because of the way he was breaking chains used to bound him (without is hands breaking) and howling.

If Jesus hasn't permit them to enter into the swine, they would still have left but not without violently throwing that man around a couple of times (just like the epilepsy demon wanted to throw that child into fire in one of the other account of Jesus deliverance ministry) and he may get seriously wounded
To be continued
Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by superior1: 10:49pm On Jan 17, 2016
folash:
This just happened last night, I had a dream, and in the dream I was lying down somewhere and this scary looking creature was trying to attack me, the creature was trying to scare me, buh i wasn't scared, I started rebuking it in the name of the Lord, I was so bold and confronting it heads on, then later I jst started laughing, i laughed so hard, and i woke up suddenly still laughing, then I saw them; right in my room, two very tall demons, they were holding something that looked like a hand fan and were trying to fan me or something, I was still laughing, then they vanished. I got really angry in the spirit, then started praying and speaking in tongues, I pointed to the direction where I saw them and prayed with all boldness. I don't know why I was laughing in the dream right to the point where I woke up. Have never experienced something like this before. Of a truth greater is He that is in me than he that is in them. God is really with me. satan is fighting a lost battle. Glory be to God.
Waoh, this is a great one, satan has sure failed in your life Sister. It reminds me of a man of God who had a similar attack and started laughing just like you described and the following day according to him, a strange woman entered into his office to ask for his forgiveness. The strange woman confessed to be among the group that wanted to attack him the previous night but they were surprised when they saw him roaring loudly like a lion and that was why they ran off, she said the remaining members of her coven died that night and she wanted the man of God to forgive and remove death from her. She gave her life to Christ that morning.

Remember those 4 lepers and how their steps was magnified in the ears of the enemies as if it were that of a mighty army?,A laugh of faith is like the roaring of a lion in the ears of demons.
Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by superior1: 10:36pm On Jan 17, 2016
analice107:
Sir you don't know how glad I am to have you here. You are just saying what I find myself doing recently. Fear of any kind is gone from me. Anytime threatened, I'll begin to thank God that he is allowing Satan to give me a testimony.

Satan gave me a testimony two years ago. I mentioned broadcast evangelism, but I didn't mention why I stopped going out for it. Not really because I wasn't seeing fruits. I knew God was responsible for the fruits.
One morning, I had come back from evangelizing , finished by study and devotion. I remembered something I needed to do. I needed wood to do it. Very small wood oo. The 2by2 wood. I just was cutting it into two, wen something hit my left eye like a thunderbolt. If I wasn't alone in that place, I would ve said, someone pulled and released a stone from a catapolt against me. The impart was so hard. That was how I would ve lost my left eye. I was rushed to the hospital. The doctor didn't believe when I told her what happened. She said, something from my hand, couldn't have caused that kind of an impact. It was just too severe to have caused by me. She asked if I fought with anyone, did my husband beat me? Why was I protecting him? A man who can do this can kill you, she said to me. I said, I wasn't married yet. She didn't believe me.
Instantly I was given treatment and drugs close to 20k. About a week later, I became OK. Though not seeing clearly from that eye. The impact left a scar very close to my conea. I was told how fortunate I was, because I almost would ve been blind in that eye.

2 weeks and some days later, it came back full force. I went back to the hospital. Eyes drops were changed, drugs were changed. The doctor didn't understand why the whole thing will come back after I was fine. Eye X-ray was taking to Check for infection, nothing. From then, Satan wanted to make sure I never wemt out of my house. It was becoming a more serious case than I thought. That was when I realized, it wasn't eye drop or drugs matter. Him look for trouble.
I attended an 'All night' where Bishop declared that 10yrs and beyond, we shall be healthy and won't have any need for drugs, and that if we were sick, we were healed. It was if he was talking to me directly. I believed it. when I got home, I packed all the drugs and drops and threw them away. And said 'Satan blind me if you can'. From that day till today, I never used no drop or drugs. I became OK. Then some time later, I woke up feeling like a
I had gel in that eye. It was itching like hell. I couldn't read my Bible. I had the urge to leave my devotion and attend to it, I refused. I wanted to check in the mirror, I resisted it. It was healed, full stop. Whatsoever the Lord doeth is forever. It's not coming back, I said. With my right eye, I read my Bible. Wen I finished, I picked a mirror, dear, when I saw my eye in the mirror, I was scared. My eye was red, like had gel in there. Of course I felt it. It was swollen. My first instinct was, call the doctor, one mind said, "and tell her what?". I just started saying, Satan, thank you for this testimony,its been awhile I testified .
I said, "but make it bigger, make it in such a way that, any one who sees me should shout and run away from me. As matter of fact, blind the eye totally, so that wen God opens it, it will be a big testimony. I want people to really praise God for it when I testify. Truly speaking, I didn't rub that eye, with all the itching, I endured it. Lol, it wasn't quite 5mins, the itching stopped. The swelling went down, the redness cleared, till today. No vitamin C or para, it's been a year and months.
But I have not returned to my evangelism. Thats my laziness and sleep.

I shall start on Monday
Sister, it is so refreshing reading testimonies like yours, I do bless God for your life. satan doesnt understand folks like you, how much he gets frustrated when the Children of God are celebrating even in agony, he gets really mad!!

As you go out tomorrow as a witness of our Lord, may the Lord grant you His covering and confirm His words through you (Amen).
Christianity EtcRe: My Pastor Said Prayer Is Not The Key. by superior1:
plaetton
You can't be serious. huh
I am, I deal with facts....no silly assumptions

The very thread itself is based on the op's experience in church today.
Same "give me your money" shenanigans are repeated a thousand times throughout Nigeria everyday.
Wrong, the thread is about the poster pastor's message about the relationship between giving and receiving financial blessings from God.

Pentecostal Christianity is mercantilism of the most dubious kind masquerading as a religion.
Based on what study, you see why you are full of unfounded and dumb claims?

Every 6 year old in Nigeria knows that.
Even if you meant this figuratively, it is still a very silly and dumb generalization.


What is Evangelical Christianity without money ?
One of the factors of production is Capital, if you took college economics, you will know this, it is not limited to any Christian body.

I know of relatives who have been commanded to strip their pockets in church.
Subjective, I know of people who were blessed financially through churches.

I don't even know why I am wasting time with a pentecostal fraudster.
Obviously, people like me are bad market for your pocket.
Unfounded claim, you see how dumb thou art?
Christianity EtcRe: My Pastor Said Prayer Is Not The Key. by superior1: 6:36pm On Jan 17, 2016
plaetton:
Mention one unfounded claim I have made on this entire thread.
It's not enough to say " unfounded claims ". Point them out and refute them. Show me how dumb I am.

You barely comprehend simple sentences, let alone being able to articulate your own arguments.

If you don't take me serious, then WTF are you disgracing yourself and your graduate degree in this public forum

I told you long ago that you are not compelled to post if you have nothing meaningful to ad to this thread.

Some people can be soooooo Dumb.
I told you you are dumber than you suspected


Pentecostal Christianity is mercantile Christianity.
It is for profit fraud centers perversely masquerading as churches


Base on what study did you arrive at above statement?
Christianity EtcRe: My Pastor Said Prayer Is Not The Key. by superior1: 6:15pm On Jan 17, 2016
plaetton:
Another really silly juvenile question.

If you are not smart enough to discern what makes sense and what doesn't, then sorry for you.
You need to be sorry for yourself
Christianity EtcRe: My Pastor Said Prayer Is Not The Key. by superior1: 6:11pm On Jan 17, 2016
plaetton:
You know, I do question the educational credentials you boasted about earlier on.
You lack comprehension skills , as well as an ability to articulate a coherent argument, refutation or rebuttals.

Your questions are juvenile.

You have not for once addressed the issue if church financial accountability, which is what this entire thread is all about.
If you think Nigerian Churches should not be financially accountable to their flock, just come out and say it.
Don't be shy.

Right from the first page, I suspected that you were a pentecostal fraudster ( those who feed fat on church money).
I am convinced that you are, considering how averse and hostile you have been on the simple issue of church financial accountability.

Make an argument for or against how churches in Nigeria should or should not account for money received.
Simple, Bob.
The problem is you are dumber than you suspected and I dont take people like you serious. You are full of unfounded presumptions and assumptions, your facts only exist in the hollow of your degenerated grey matter.

You made unfounded claims and ask for it to be explained, seriously?...you need to look for demented and jobless moro.nx like you to do that
Christianity EtcRe: Who Created GOD??? by superior1: 6:01pm On Jan 17, 2016
oteneaaron:
In this little write-up, these terms would have their meaning in Context as follows:

GOD-- Signifies the "supreme being" from any religion ( Yahweh, Allah, Buhdda, Sango, Krishna, Oduduwa, Owoicho........etc)

MAN-- Signifies You and I ; all humans existing and non-existing(HUMANITY as a whole)

RELIGION-- signifies all of the worlds religion (after-all they are all products of the same factory)



WHO CREATED GOD??

Its no wonder that when you ask he above question to any religious minded person and you're gonna get differing answers.

Ask any creationist : "What is the proof that Man was created ? " , "how do we know that life and all there is had a designer?"

And we receive this reply that -- Man and all there is are intelligent creatures ; the human brain, the universe in general attest to the fact that everything was created by a Supreme Being...

*Please note the argument - an intelligent creation must have an intelligent designer-

So here is the correlation, If you seriously believe that "nothing came from nothing" and there has to be an explanation for our "intelligence",
then GOD must have been created too!!!

WHY?

"GOD" exists and he is very ( if not too Intelligent---common, he's GOD!!).....so what is the explanation for his Intelligencehuhhuh??

If the world as we know it attests to fact of the existence of a creator, then that creator must have been created because HE(GOD) bears the same (proof of an Intelligent creator) Qualities.

Now who created GOD??


Sadly, the answer has been right in Front of Us all this time........

WE created GOD!! You and I , MAN.....

When we were perplexed as to how the universe was sparse and awe-inspiring, we had to give credit to -someone- so we invented GOD

When were Scared because we felt or experience disappointment, death, sickness..etc, we needed Solace and we created GOD to blame and to beg for assistance

When we felt the need to Control our fellow MAN, we created GOD and religion to keep humans in check , after-all they must all answer to our creation -GOD-

GET IT RIGHT...

We created GOD


Now, our creation of GOD may have been a necessary evil, and MAN is growing up....the time has come for us to let go of Childish things!!
Your question is quite silly, no Yoruba will ever tell you Odudua or Sango is God
Christianity EtcRe: My Pastor Said Prayer Is Not The Key. by superior1: 5:47pm On Jan 17, 2016
plaetton:
Most times your responses don't make sense.

What is the improbable claim that I have made in this instance?

Sometimes I really get tired of arguing with you juvies.
Who adjudge what makes sense or not, you?
Christianity EtcRe: My Pastor Said Prayer Is Not The Key. by superior1: 5:45pm On Jan 17, 2016
plaetton:
Comprehension comprehension!!

I never said we were both products of the same educational system. By " our educational system " , I was referring to the Nigerian educational system.
I guess you were educated in French?

Now back to the subject matter.

I have attended more than 5 different churches outside Nigeria, where the churches made monthly financial statements to the members.
I even opened a thread about one of them long time ago on this forum.

So, my dear sir, I am the empirical evidence. I speak from first hand personal experiences.

Even St.Leo's Catholic Church, where my father attends, gives them quarterly financial statements.

Pentecostal Christianity is mercantile Christianity.
It is for profit fraud centers perversely masquerading as churches.
Well, you will still not know under which system I studied, enough of that

KingEbukasBlog took his response from my mouth, your observation is subjective and different from my observations, whose observation should be the standard for measurement then?, mind you, just last year alone, I traveled more than 7 western countries.

Pentecostal Christianity is mercantile Christianity.
It is for profit fraud centers perversely masquerading as churches


Based on what study did you made the highlighted conclusion?
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Use Of Fasting,when God still Answer prayers with Full Stomach? by superior1: 2:46pm On Jan 17, 2016
Matthew 17:21

21"But this kind (of demons) does not go out except by prayer and fasting."

Fasting and praying are spiritual exercises that keep you spirit fit
Christianity EtcRe: Christians, Why Does Faith Need Regular Recharging? by superior1: 1:39pm On Jan 17, 2016
plaetton:
grin

Beautiful piece.
I couldn't have said it better.

Even When I still believed in the existence of god, I considered religion , organized religion a great insult to god.
why and how?
Christianity EtcRe: My Pastor Said Prayer Is Not The Key. by superior1: 1:24pm On Jan 17, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
So which church does that - makes available to everyone the gmi and expense account ?
He cant because the church only exists in his imagination
Christianity EtcRe: My Pastor Said Prayer Is Not The Key. by superior1: 1:14pm On Jan 17, 2016
plaetton:
I always laugh when idiots come here to brag about their degrees.
How how does your graduate degree excuse or mitigate the very low comprehension skills you have displayed thus far ?

I am sad that you are good posterboy for the sorry state of our educational system.
How did you know we are both products of the same educational system??....arent you very dumb?

Back to subject matter, on what empirical information or source did you based your hypothetical church expenditure structure in civilized society on?
Christianity EtcRe: Stuffs Jesus Never Said by superior1: 1:08pm On Jan 17, 2016
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StuffJesusNeverSaid
Christianity EtcRe: My Pastor Said Prayer Is Not The Key. by superior1: 12:56pm On Jan 17, 2016
plaetton:
If you were smart enough, you would figured that I was using a hypothetical account to show kingebukasblog how a church Finance should be in any civilized society.

Who is being the idi.ot here?

You are not compelled to post if you don't comprehend or have something meaningful to contribute.
Hypothesizing from what data?, how do you define civilized society, where is the empirical research upon which you based the template of measurement on, how can you make comparison from non existent fact, you are a dunce!!!

And young man, you are on with someone who has got a graduate degree in econometrics, just you know
Christianity EtcRe: My Pastor Said Prayer Is Not The Key. by superior1: 12:45pm On Jan 17, 2016
plaetton:
Listen buddy.
If you are too lazy to contribute meaningfully with an argument, I suggest you just sit and watch.
Are you arguing or displaying stupidity?, you gave a breakdown of a suppose church expenditure and I ask for the source, how does that constitute laziness?....if you want to validate your stand on Christianity, why wont you provide valid facts?
Christianity EtcRe: My Pastor Said Prayer Is Not The Key. by superior1: 12:35pm On Jan 17, 2016
plaetton:
That's the same lie that every church fraudster tells.

If it was so simple, there would Little doubts.


Accounting 101.

Church takes in $500,000 a month on offerings, tithes and seed sowing. Fine.

Church pays for rent or mortgage on property.
Electricity bills, phone bills etc.
Church pays salaries of fulltime or part time pastor or pastors.
Church pays salaries for full time church workers.

Church pays for printing tracts, other sundry expenses.

Church pays monthly or weekly charity programs.

Church total expenses for the month= $200,000

Church has and average montly surplus of $300,000.

Church makes this financial record available to every member every month and posts it on their website.

Now, tell me what is wrong with that picture?
, and then tell us any Pentecostal church in Nigeria where this is practiced.
From where did you get this statement, your imagination?
Christianity EtcRe: Wrong Question: Are You A "Redeemer"? by superior1: 12:21pm On Jan 17, 2016
Are you redeemed sounds better to me
Christianity EtcRe: Christians, Why Does Faith Need Regular Recharging? by superior1: 12:07pm On Jan 17, 2016
plaetton:
I always ask them, and they say so.

What is your reason for going to church on sundays, Wednesdays, Friday night vigils and other fellowship stuff?

Do you do these for your personal benefits or for god's benefit?

In other words, who needs these rituals most, you or god?
Who stands to loose if these rutuals are abandoned?
How many have you asked and what is the ratio of the number of Christians you have asked to the number of Christians in this world to reach such a conclusion, doesnt that make an illiterate of you?
Christianity EtcRe: Christians And Muslims Do Not Worship Thesame God by superior1: 12:02pm On Jan 17, 2016
oteneaaron:
GOD!!

Muslim and Christians....GOD is only a creation of your imagination................
Is that statement a product of your own imagination?
Christianity EtcRe: My Pastor Said Prayer Is Not The Key. by superior1: 12:00pm On Jan 17, 2016
plaetton:
What does god need money for?
Pray tell.

You sound like one of those pentecostal fraudsters.
Do you have a source for your claim or is your claim valid because you thought it was?
Christianity EtcRe: If Satan Repents Today Will God Forgive Him? by superior1: 11:59am On Jan 17, 2016
okey4reel:
just as any other sinner who sins against God and ask for forgiveness and God forgives him, can that also be said of Satan if he asks God to forgive him today. based on all the atrocities he has committed?

I want to know from Bible scholars in the house.
If Mount Everest can overnight turn into an egg, it is possible for satan to repent
Christianity EtcRe: Christians, Why Does Faith Need Regular Recharging? by superior1: 11:57am On Jan 17, 2016
plaetton:
Every statistic shows that atheists are in the far minority in almost every country .
I personally think that the opposite is the case.

Millions of christians all over the world will head to church today to recharge their faith, their commitment to their beliefs.
In both the older and new generation churches, the faithful would find other reasons to attend one or several church services during the weekdays.

So it's quite obvious that faith is not just holding a set of beliefs, but is actually a commitment to holding such beliefs.
As such, protecting the belief itself, from oneself, becomes the primary duty and preoccupation of the faithful.


Given the fact that christians come on this forum, and in fact every public forum, to promote and sell the veracity of their beliefs, I cannot but wonder why things that they accept with absolute certainty needs to be repeated, regurgitated and recharged every so often.

Who are the faithful afraid of?
Atheists?
Satan?
Or themselves?

Can atheists ever rob you of your absolute truth?
Can Satan ever rob you of your absolute truths?

I mean, you believe with certainty that god exists. So does the Sun, so does gravity, so does ultra violet radiation. So what is the big deal ?

Do I need to recharge my belief in gravity every single day? If I did that, wouldn't that be a sign that perhaps I am bit doubtful?

I find it hilarious that the same people who actively promote the belief that god and Jesus exist also promote the regular and necessary recharge of such beliefs.

For example, what would happen to a christian if he or she ceases to go to church or fellowship for recharge?
Would the faith battery die off?
If the faith dies or diminishes, then what happens to the absolute truths held ?
Do they remain truths or do they reconfigure and die off ?

Cc: kingebukasblog, winner01
How did you know Christians attendance in church is to recharge their faith?
Christianity EtcRe: My Pastor Said Prayer Is Not The Key. by superior1: 11:54am On Jan 17, 2016
cardoctor:
In church today my pastor said during offering time that "Prayer is not the key to receiving financial blesings. Giving is". Does that mean that we shouldn't pray but give instead. How true is it? Please kindly advice me.
While that maybe right, did he also tell you it is God that gives without sorrow?
Christianity EtcRe: My Pastor Said Prayer Is Not The Key. by superior1: 11:52am On Jan 17, 2016
plaetton:
Yes indeed.

Prayers can pay the mortgage for god.
God has a huge mortgage to pay on the big universe, all that vast real estate.

With salaries for his host of angels, and Satan on a permanent retainership, god needs all the giving he can get.
Heck, that's why he created humans in the first place.
That's suppose to be funny, right?
Christianity EtcRe: Religion Has Killed Rational Thinking Of This Country - Prof. Osundare by superior1: 11:50am On Jan 17, 2016
Growth in atheism has turned America into a violent country
Christianity EtcRe: The Fallen Angels From The Andromeda Galaxy ( Nephilim ) by superior1: 5:35pm On Jan 16, 2016
plaetton:
Lol.

So demons exist simply because the bible mentioned it ?

I suppose Unicorns also exist Because it was mentioned in the bible too ?

Well, as I always say, the best thing about having an invisible, imaginary enemy is that it empowers you to simply declare Victory anytime it suits you. grin cheesy
Demons do not exist because you say so?

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