₦airaland Forum

Remarkable:
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.. you seem to be avoiding the allegation of (Yorubas not) leading prayers or being allowed to be worshipping in mosques even in your land... what's up with that?

Really Someone told you that and you believed You must be the most gullible human being after GEJ. Which planet are you from, to be candid? It is bewildering that you can believe such fallacy.

You can as well believe that I own National Stadium, Muritala Muhammed Airport and Apapa Port.

rawpadgin:
this is pure oppression

we definitely won't accept this

Don't let ''we wont accept it'' end on NL.

Let the civil rights societies and intelligentsias in ND head to the House to protest, rather than Dokubo spitting empty threats like dragon.

BuddahMonk:
Yes he is a yolobaman which made his an automatic slave because of his inability to challange the sokoto gudalis, I didn't say he aint yoloba but am saying your opinion doesn't count when the gudalis are out to do their things.

If our opinion does not count, your ruling by proxy president --GEJ, will not be defeated.

That shows you how inconsequential your population is. In the equation of Nigeria, y1bos have always been and will always be NOBODY.

BuddahMonk:
When the sokoto gudali discovered Abiola was your choice they cancelled the election, kill him, kill his wife yet you didn't do anything.

When the surrogate abokii Obj was busy seizing Ibetos's licenses to make sure his masters Sokoto gudali are happy by making their son Dangote the richest man where were you.

When Northern States were declaring Sharia states left, right and center what did you surrogate son of yours did to stop them because he didn't want to ruffle the sokoto gudali feathers.

Yes Abiola died and likewise our heroine Kudirat for a struggle they believed in, rather than ensuring the massacre of their kinsmen.

Now comapre that to one coward sissy that is not fit to even lead some set of bandits, pretending to be warlord, that sacrificed 3million of his kindred before ben johnsoning to Abidjan.

In the land of the stupids they call that bravery and leadership, while others see them as bunch of id1ots.

BuddahMonk:
Yoloba choice wasn't Obasanjo, Olu Falae was your choice but your masters decision prevailed who gave you a surrogate abokii called Obasanjo who didn't talk when he was tell that Kano was more populated than Lagos, Obj was offshoot of Sokoto gudali

Your choice doesn't count as far as the gambari interest is there, Zik was there but Okpara rejected census figure of 1958 to tell you we don't accept every bullshiit from the gudalli.

The bottomline is OBJ is a yorubaman. The slogan in 1999 was whether Olu Obasanjo or Olu Falae both of them are Olus, so we care less.
Which other ethnicity ever had 2 top leading candidates from their stocks? I gues you wanted to say y1bos abi? lmaoooooooooooooo

5th class citizen are only good for making up the number, being our conquered slaves.

Come along my slave boy,

BuddahMonk:
I have no slave mentality, you won't sight the moon unless the descendant of Uthman Dan Fodio from Sokoto gudali said one has been sighted.

You won't even lead in prayer when a gambari muslim is around, even a crippled gambari muslim worth more than ten Tinubus in the eyes of Nigeria muslims.

Even yoloba muslims have started worshiping on sundays because they are being treated like ebola carriers by the sokoto gudali masters masters

When they want to slaughter they will not spare you

Another divisive tendency of y1bos.

if they cannot divide you on ethnic ground, they will look out for religion differences. NAhhhhh.

we are beyond that. I do not see muslim or Xtian, or Buddhist or traditionalists. What i always see is human beings that are rational and irrational, ones that have the fear of God and the ones that do not, the ones that love to good and the ones that love to bad, the ones that embrace light and the ones that are the children of darkness.

Why do y1bos hate anything and everything They carry so much hatred that they even hate themselves. That says it all about the descendants of Cain.

BuddahMonk:
Look at the casualties of the civilwar according to JP Clark

Far too premature to claim victory !

Shortly after the civil war the whole world thought that the Igbos lost.

-Sadly that is not the case. Nigerians across various tribe lost as

1- ethnic nationalities in Niger Delta lost their God given resources,

2- middle belt /Northern aborigin the became sacrificial lamb and

3-Yorubas became perpertual slaves that must not allow to rule except a Northern dies in office.

Another vomit from a shallow brain.

I did not know that Abubakar died before OBJ took over?

The best y1bos can do is to:

1. kill the leaders of other regions
2. taunt other people with their senseless killings
3. crush the dream of others that want to secede under them
4. cancel regionalism and aggregate power to the centre, in their selfish and greedy bid to control others.
5. declare war on the nation
6. loot our Central Banks]
7. invade neutral regions, kill their people in their show of brigandry
8. waste just 3million of theirs just to appease Amadioha.
9. always licking the a55es of northerners --ZIk and Balewa, Shagari and Ekwueme, Daniel Kanu led YEAA campaign for Abacha, Nzeribe assisted IBB to annul June 12.
10. Ruin GEJ's government with their sychophancy

BuddahMonk:
Because you have accepted your slave tag now placed on you by your masters, they don't allow you sight the moon yet you don't complain, they don't allow you worship in the mosques in North yet you don't complain, the don't even allow you lead in prayer in mosques in your own land yet you won't complain, is it when they poo in your mouth that you will complain when your being treated as a kaffir whose than an infidel.

During NYSC killing of 2011 you people were jubilating that Igbos were the victims but when the name came out you donated 5, during Cartoon Riot in North the entire East was hot for the babarians and their deadbodies littered the streets of East, you people were going about consoling yourselves that only Igbos were killed, during US invasion of Iraq there were riots in North while East immediately replied them with deadlier riots nobody saw you people.

If Igbos complain that Boko Haram are killing Igbos, you guys will start asking them whether they are the only ones being killed, anytime Fulani people are attacked in East, yolobass will start telling the world how intolerant Igbos are but they won't ask what the herds men did.

If we complain high cut off mark in exam, yolobass will say we cry too much, if we complain about shortage in state yolobass will grandstand and start insulting us.

I have not see anything the hausas did that yolobass question, but if you question what hausas did yolobass will occupy the blogsphere and start calling every tribe in South out.

Please you have chosen to be slaves, we are fighting to free ourselves from servitude which your dragging us into.

Absolute rubbish, coming from a defeated war booty.

You are the official SLAVE of Nigerian State.

You were defeated, so you remain our WAR BOOTY.

You were conquered, you remain our WAR LOOT.

Y1bos are and will forever be our SLAVEs, until this country exist no more. For now you are our officially labelled slaves and 5th class citizens of this country.

COmmon my SLAVE, talk respectfully to your MASTER, OSu Caste.

this must definitely be a joke.

What is this noise about some fundamentalist calling southerners ''infidels''?

There ar chrsitians in the north for christ sake and not all their muslims are blinded with religious or ethnic hatred.

Calling you infidel does not make you one for goodness sake, except you have accepted it in your mind.

I do not care what they call Southerners but I have never seen myself in that light and can never. How many of them use those kind of words. SHow me anyone of the that is mad enough and has the liver to say that in public.

BlackTechnology:
Lazy cocoa farmer


Is your harvest ready.?

Wandering descendant of Cain, running 100m dash in traffic to sell Gala, how market?

Hope market is pure today?

Another senseless thread.

They stood with corruption and held their heads high.

They stood with cluelessness and held their heads high.

They stood with nepotism and held their heads hih.

they stood with looting of a never-seen-before- calibre and held their heads high.

If some people are not ashamed of their moral bankruptcy, blinded by ethnic bigotry and voted against the right judgement of good and bad, then such people are not far from Anini.

PDPwayoo:
Have u heard about Edwin Clark and Anthony Aninih again? these r the bad guys of Niger Delta......
people like Edwin Clark, Anini, Asari Dokubo and some high cheifs have the power to hold GEJ/PDP/Federal govt. to ransom; and enforce a mighty project in Niger Delta.
Instead, they were fighting for ownership of oil block and personal benefit as well as blaming illiterate fulani man to their woes.

Under Jonathan no single factory was built in Delta, Rivers, Edo, Bayelsa which i know very well............. he only gave amnesty. Amnesty can not sustain the youths development but employment can make them look responsible and peaceful.

Yar Adua even initiated the Amnesty Programme and not Mr. Dumbo.

anyaekekehinde:
well what you said is valid and true, in aggregate effect, Lagos will still do well without oil, my argument is that oil activities has equally been a blessing to Lagos state. i mean all activities surrounding the oil&gas industry.

The only state that has the financial muscle to support the Oil &Gas is Lagos because that is the Financial Centre of West Africa.

By and large, Lagos will always benefit from Oil &Gas directly or indirectly.

Do you know ho many deals happening in the world that is cemented in NY, London and Hong Kong, without those deals being in the countries where those financial centres are located.

anyaekekehinde:
agreed.
going by salary, 1 young engineer's salary in shell Lagos = 5 bankers salary.
what can render my argument invalid is if the taxes deducted in the salary of 1 shell engineer is lesser than the tax deducted from the 5 bankers.

.it is only the shell chevron or mobil workers that are working in Lagos alone that their PAYEE is remitted to Lagos.

Taxes of various branches of any company are remitted to the state where such is located. A branch of Zenith Bank in Owerri remits it's PAYEE to Imo State Government and not Lagos.

What is the population of the Oil workers in relation to the total population of financial industry workers in Lagos?


Financial industry, Shipping industry, entertainment and aviation industry make Lagos thick and not oil.

Kennywills7:
Well, am well aware of most of d things u wrote however u don't have to insult me to make a point
Secondly everything u said its wot we in Niger delta are fighting against today
pls if u will quote me again don't insult me. Be polite in presenting ur points. Thank u

If u felt insulted, apologies.

One thing I want you to realise is Regionalism MUST precede Secession, except you want to go through the path of barrels and blood.

ND should make their call for regionalism and resource control. You need to learn how to hide your objective in the midst of advocating for a collective beneficial cause.

Diplomacy and alliance with key regions also matters.

The voice of the likes of Dokubo can never make anybody take ND serious. Until highly cerebral people that can engage in logical and convincing argument take up the battle.

To be candid I feel the pain of ND, but let us tell ourselves the absolute truth, your leaders are not helping the cause. They are the ones sabotaging your efforts. Name one Government you did not have a viable voice? None.

Kennywills7:
I don't see anywhere in d right up dat says its own by Yoruba couples
Now leaving dat let's assume its own by Yoruba couples and u rightly said it should b in their land now tell me, oil is located in d Niger Delta yet its ministries, in fact everything related to oil is either locate in abuja or in Lagos except d refineries in ph and warri
now tell, before d discovery of oil 50% Derivation was used in Nigeria (cocoa and groundnut comes to mind) why was that changed upon d discovery of oil?
Is there Justice in dat?
Be honest and don't b bias, are d rest of Nigeria being fair to d Niger Delta people with all this?

Definitely you are too lazy to read up. Google is everybody's friend. Kindly read up on the history of this country.

Point of correction, there is nothing like "our ministries". As the constitution stands today, all the ministries belong to FG and FG is our collective property. By default all ministries must be located in Abuja.

Someone abolished the region and centralised all the power at the federal level. With that action, he took resource control away from all regions and gave it to federal government without thinking of the future implications on the generations yet unborn. That person is Ironsi.

Some people hijacked power and saw the advantage in the new system for their part of the country and they capitalised fully on it. That is the northerners.

Oil companies have the right to chose wherever there HQ want to be. Even Barrack Obama cannot order them to relocate to anywhere. Are you aware that the British Barclays Bank is contemplating moving his HQ away from UK because of excessive taxation. The same way militancy, kidnapping and insecurity in general drove the oil giants and oil servicing companies away from ND.

Min of ND, Min of Petroleum and other related government agencies must be located where the seat of government is. That is why they are in Abuja. NDDC is in ND, because it is parastatal strictly dedicated to your region.

Way forward.

1. GEJ missed the golden opportunity with the National Jamboree he was calling Confab. He ought to have lobbied his way through the National Assembly for the amendment of the constitution to recognise referendum, for a confab resolution to be binding.

2. At the Confab, we must all support regionalism. With regionalism, your much sort after resource control comes automatically. Also note that all the income being generated for FG in SW through taxation, VAT, petroleum tax, custom and excise duty will also revert to SW strictly.

To make the resource control more acceptable to all, a graduated increment of percentage to be allocated to region producujg such resources can be fashioned out.

We shall all pay certain percentage to FG for the running of the central government.

Each regions can decide to create 20states and 500 LGs within their region. It's none of anybody's biz.

Crying for Biafra or Upper Zambezi is dead on arrival at international level. That is a fact. After some years with regionalism we can all call for referendum on separation. First thing first, we need to amend the constitution before conducting any meaningful confab.

Kennywills7:
If he was drinking ogogoro there try to get there before u call him a fool or a drunk
U can't achieve wot he has yet u call him a drunk?
One thing i hv notice in dis forum is dat if it favours d south west then every other zone or person can go to hell!
Things dat should normally b located in d Niger Delta are spread between Lagos and abuja, if d oil was in d south west alone am sure other zones especially in d south here would hv bn slaves to d South west
Try to look at things from a neutral ground
You sound too bias

Bros did you even know who owns the project?

The project is owned by yoruba couples. What stopped your Dokubo and Tompolo from doing same out of the billions they are collecting monthly?

It is not a FG's project, it is a private project.

Before this time, such fabrications are done in South Korea, Japan and Singapore and shipped down to Naija.

If yoruba couple invest their money on yoruba soil, what is your business?

Tell your Drunken Master that his Order missed road.

anyaekekehinde:
Agreed, in Lagos today, how many companies can Rival the multinational oil firms in terms of paying taxes to LASG, paying huge salaries to their staffs of which taxes are also deducted from this huge salaries and remitted to LASG.
How many, just mention 1

Banks of course.

They employ more than oil companies. The financial services industry -- stocks, banks, insurance, discount houses, etc contributes far more that oil.

oneeast:
Good! More reason why GEJ could have used his presidential power of coercion long ago to lure this investors to his state than letting it slide until now. I repeat GEJ has proved to me to be clueless but he is a good man.

The investors have the right to chose where they want to site their biz. He can only implore them and give them incentives to site it in a particular place.

He is a good man at heart but he knows nothing about administration, talkless of leadership.

oneeast:
I am beginning to see GEJ as clueless! What was GEJ doing for 6yrs that he could not give his state an airport. He could not even deliver this same oil project to his oil rich state! Is it now at the eleventh hour that he can achieve it? He was even clueless to his own people!

I am sorry but GEJ has lived up to the word-CLUELESS.

Before you insult me, I was a member of TAN that went to campaign in UK and also a die-hard GEJ fan.

The project is not FG's project. FG came into the party when the preparation for the party was almost over. It's a private initiative of a silent couple Mr&Mrs Jadesimi with the buy in of investors and Lagos state Government.

FG came on board when it saw the viability.

Therefore, FG does not have any control over the project. The likes of Tompolo, Boyloaf, Dokubo should use all the billions they are collecting to set up such yards on their lands, instead of investing their funds in.other countries, as it's the case.

Ojiofor:
The same way your people bear adams,ganiyu,wasiu,ibrahim even some has english names as surname like bode George.
Ol'boy,you can make your point without insulting yourself.take ya time or simply stop quoting me.

Lol. How rampant is your Bode George in comparison with your people?

All the name you mentioned are religious names. What makes Cynthia, Sandra and Callistus a religious name?

Stop showing your stupidity and face front.

Ojiofor:
You see what I am talking about,if bukola is yoruba from NC and someone whose name is emeka uchenna from SS is not Igbo by biased yorubas.we have to be fair at all times.forget few who deny their ethnic identity for political reasons.as for yorubanising my kinsmen in yorubaland,that's fat lie.my people remain Ndi Igbo wherever they are.

You are a clown.

How does the ikwerres or aniomas or ikas denying being igbos turned to yoruba's wahala? Why can't you just face the people denying you, rather than making yorubas your headache.

Just mere learning of our language by your kiths and kinsmen shows the strategic psychological colonialisation of your people. If you do not know it, get it into your head that it is a conscious psychological warfare. Do you see us bearing Cynthia, Cassandra, Callistus the way your people drop their igbo names for oyinbo names? Even the first son of your greatest man, has Bamidele behind his name. That says it all.

Ojiofor:
Why are you dragging saraki even when his father said he isn't yoruba.somebody posted a link you can go through it.

Why should I be dragging his ethnicity, when his surname is Saraki, his name is Olusola, the name of his first son is Bukola and the name of his first daughter is Gbemisola.

We are OK with the yorubanisation of the Sarakis, the same way we are yorubanising your kith and kinsmen that troop into our blessed land.

Ojiofor:
See question.In another thread yorubas will swear that Igboland start and end in five southeastern states....that peter odili,chibuike amaechi,pat okesinachi utomi,jay Jay okocha etc...are not igbos but from Niger delta..your question should be when shall the yorubas stand for truth and justice?
until then,they shall be paid back in their own coin of deceit and conspiracy.
sarakis and yekinis of kwara state are confirmed fulanis.GBAM.

You are funny.

Is it the yorubas telling Ikwerres to say they are not ibos or is it yorubas telling Aniomas to.say they are not Ibos or is it yorubas advising Ikas to say they are not yorubas? It is those people saying they are not Igbos on their own. So face then and do not pass your stupidity to us.

Has ilorin people or akoko edo people or yorubas in kogi ever denied not being yorubas? Show me one denial.

omonnakoda:
Most people commenting have no idea what they are talking about saying it must be fabricated where there is oil. This is as logical as saying weapons must be manufactured where there is war

The main input into the Platform is STEEL. Specializesd steel that will stand in the ocean for years without corroding. We do not make such steel in Nigeria. Such a job has to be done in an environment of safety and technical suitability

The other inputs are several not least is skilled manpower which we do not have and of course entrepreneurial vision and drive in a Nigerian person. Asari dokubo and Tompolo decided they were more interested in the education and security sectors of the economy. There is now a local content law and on the basis of that law LADOL have developed their company to operate in LAGOS . The law says Nigeria not Bayelsa. In the past the platforms were assembled in Korea and then shipped to Nigeria so why is it controversial if a business decides to manufacture in Lagos. Lagos has an attraction obviously because there is a port there that an handle the tonnage of steel involved and is relatively safe for expatriate staff.The business decided to operate from Lagos that is their choice and it is petty in the extreme for government to get involved at all. To do so at this time and in this way is simply churlish and childish

You are just wasting your time explaining all this.

GEJ is a joker and a clown.

His order is as empty as his cluelessness.

edogirl2:
It seems Mr & Mrs Jadesimi quietly built their business over a number of years to become the largest base for rig and vessel repair in West Africa. The business is heading to become a $1 billion company.

Why will the Federal govt, through tribal jealousy, want to truncate the work of a quiet and dignified Nigerian couple?

As someone said above me, if the work was being done in South Korea, China, or Japan we wouldn't mind. But Lagos? Na. Will this company not employ qualified Nigerians irrespective of their tribal background?

It is not the govt's role to terrorise a successful business becos of tribal considerations.

ND business men should use this couple as an example of what is possible and develop similar businesses in the Niger Delta.

God will bless you.

What stops Government Tompolo from building such business. Asari Dokubo with all his noise on ND, did not even invest in ND. He built a university in Benin Republic. What ought to have provided employment for people of ND, educate the people of ND and boost the economy of the people of ND.

GEJ is indeed a Drunken Master of Otuoke. He woke up too late.

meccuno:
the siting of these headquarters where a political decision.......I think that regions should be aware of their characteristics and the govt should work on the strengths of these regions.....the north has solid minerals they should work on that. The oil exploration and management should be done in the region that creates that......we should even think of relieving lagos of some stress....because lagos is getting too congested.....let development go round so that there would be less calls for division if things are done right.......

If there is any other word for congestion, it should be used for Lagos and there is an urgency to relieve it of the stress and the impending catastrophe. God forbid all the same.

There is nothing political in siting of businesses. It is a business decision based on information on security, business strategy, business intelligence and business economics at the disposal of the investors. Most importantly, a business man will site his business where he is guaranteed of safety of his life and that of his investments.

To a large extent SW offers this to most multinationals and individuals.

If you are talking of government entities such as NLNG, refineries etc I will agree with you that the siting of such could be political.

The only way forward for this country is regionalism. True federalism is not possible even in this present scenario. Majority of the states cannot survive true federalism under this scenario. With regionalism, congruent states can harness their comparative advantage, strengths and assets to build a formidable and sustainable economy.

With that, all regions will develop at their own pace. Whoever wants to be Dubai can be, whoever wants to be Somalia and Afghanistan can be and whoever that wants to be US can be.

meccuno:
seriously...I agree with your submission. I blame GEJ for these miscalculated steps....since the North has decided that we cannot have true federalism,the best thing to do is site projects where they are supposed to be.....imagine kaduna having a refinery and they do not produce a single drop of oil.......we have major ports in Nigeria like onne,calabar and warri ports....but they are not functional to reasons I do not understand......lagos and abuja have gotten a large share of federal assisted projects and I think these development should be spread across.....lagos is being congested......dangote is about to build a new refinery in lagos......that is concentrating too much there....I think another move is to return all head offices of the oil firms back to where they belong....that is the Niger delta.....at least when things are done how they are supposed to be done,I doubt if there would be shouts of marginalisation.......and I heard that the letter to this effect was dated 30th april....so the decision was made before the elections

Oil companies siting their offices in a particular place is not the decision of the government, but of the company. They can even site it in Accra and be controlling their Nigeria business from there. Ecobank's HQ is in Togo, Stan Chart HQ is in Uk, Stanbic is in SA, Citibank is in NY. Which government can force them to relocate to Nigeria?

They are a private entity. When OBJ tried to forced banks to relocate their HQ to Abuja, it never worked.

It is left to the coalition of states in a regional presentation for them to appeal to the companies, making them to see the merits.

Investors will be in a place where they are guaranteed of safety of lives and their properties, non-militancy and no piracy activities. All these will have to form a key part of the presentation and selling points to the oil majors by the SS Regional Community.

How many times have you heard the Indigenes of Lagos State marching to Chevron or Mobil, demanding employment or making stupid demands on such companies. I am sure, Warri has learnt its lessons, they will never tow the line of war in a long time to come. All the oil servicing relocated from there, during the dark days of Warri War. It has been an herculean task, getting those companies to come back fully. Most of them still have their HQ in Lagos and Field Office in Warri with minimal assets.

segend:
I think GEJ did most of his projects outside SE and SS because he expects them to vote for him. Doing the projects in other zones is to win their support. That's where I think he got his campaign wrong, most people aren't aware of most of these projects. Instead of making noise with what you did, you were busy attacking your opponents, making it look like you did nothing, and the online campaigners didn't help matters, I know more about GEj's accomplishment and projects than them.

Please show us his quality achievements and not propaganda noise making.

lionduke:
Ilorin was founded by the Yoruba , one of
the three largest ethnic groups in Nigeria,
in 1450. It became a provincial military
headquarters of the ancient Oyo Empire, it
later become a Northern Nigeria
protectorate when the Shehu Alimi, a
descendant of Shehu Usman Dan-Fodio,
took control of the city through the spread
of Islamic religion.
The point is that ilorin is a conquered Yoruba territory, their emir's allegiance is still to sokoto caliphate.

Answer the following questions:

The Sultan and Emirship titles are cultural or religious?

Which religion has the highest population in Ilorin?

chukwudi44:
Well bros rant as you like, the sarakis do not consider themselves as Yorubas. You cannot force a man to belong to an ethnic group, so deal with that

Who cares?

In as much as they bear our names, speak our language and imbibe our culture, thereby sustaining our culture and increasing our influence, we are OK with that.

That is psychological colonialism.

The same we are doing to your kith and kinsmen littering our canaan-like region.

Following your "they are not Yorubas" argument, Sarakis are therefore a product of our colonialism. The rest is immaterial.

By the way, what is the meaning of Saraki, Olusola, Bukola and Gbemisola in Fulfude?