Foreign Affairs › Re: USA F35 Stealth Fighter Practices In The UK Lake District Ready For Russia by Svlla: 11:16am On May 28, 2022 |
BritishNaija: I'm Very right by saying hypersonic Missile need platform. The current one Russia is using are Specific Aircraft fitted. If they have develop anyone to lunch from other craft, that i have not seen. There is Stealth technology, you can believe What you chose to, US, Russia,China and the rest know this.
And the aim of Shealth is to get close to you, the current sets of Shealth now, once they open their bays, you are dead already, because they are too close and too late for you to react already. Just had to come back to this post
Iskander missile used regularly in Ukraine is an hypersonic missile of mach6 and it has a mobile ground based launch platform
Iskander: Surface to surface Missile Khinzal: Air to Surface Missile Zircon: Cruise missile
All hypersonic and all has been used in Ukraine |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Video:russian BTR 80 Tank Collect Wotowoto From Ukraine Anti Tank by Svlla: 7:58pm On May 27, 2022 |
MangekyoAlt: When I said Howitzers I thought I went on to specifically say mounted and not propelled?
You seem to be getting the wrong info. Howitzers, like mortars and rocket launchers fall under the artillery category.
You asked me to give what a honestly think about a heavy gun. Well, mounted Howitzers are also guns. Should we categorize them as tanks?
Also, sure self propelled Howitzers are a bit like tanks in appearance, but unlike tanks, they lack thick armor, hence cannot carry out the function of a "tank". A tank is an armored vehicle, fitted with guns, to shoot high caliber shells. They are designed to take down other enemy tanks, as well as spearhead attacks. Infantry fighting vehicles are extremely different. They are primarily transport vehicles, that can also "support" infantries in the battlefield, not spearhead attacks or destroy enemy tanks, like tanks are designed to.
If you say a tank is an IFV, or SPG, then you would agree that a car, a jeep and a truck are all the same? Since they're land based vehicles? To be honest you're the one who's getting it wrong You said earlier that AFV, IFV, APC and MRAP are not tanks, you also said the heavy guns is what makes a tank. Inasmuch as I agree with you, Am telling you categorically that the OP is not entirely wrong and I will back it up 1. I mentioned the BMPT TERMINATOR as an AFV but also passes for a tank although not an MBT. So let's get the difference clear BMPT TERMINATOR 2 has the armament and armour to pass for a tank not an mbt. Like I said BMPT 2 is a T72 MBT with the torrent overhauled for a BMPT torrent Now let's talk about classification; Not all tanks are MBTWe have lots and lots of Light Tanks (LT), medium tanks (MT) And there are AFV that can pass for tank Example is the Korean K21 Light tank which is also an AFV with an overhauled torrent I can keep listing AFV that have serves in MT and LT roles So what are they Tanks or not Tanks? Also K21 Light tank has an anti tank guided missile. Surprised?  Looking at it from the armor perspective then the Chinese ZTQ 15 export variant VT 5 is a tank or at least an LT Now you talked about guns Do you mean the 105mm shells is what qualify as a tank? If so, then I can prove you wrong The BMPT 2 has 4 (four) 9M120 Ataka missile launchers that fires 130mm missiles Remember this is an AFV like you said and not a tank which has more firepower than the Russian T14 armata that fires 125mm from a smoothbore canon. Let's talk about range The BMPT 3 has an operational range of 550km which beats the almighty T14 armata MBT of 500km So when we look at it from 3 perspective Range, gun, and armor you can see that OP wasn't entirely wrong for passing a AFV for a tank  |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Video:russian BTR 80 Tank Collect Wotowoto From Ukraine Anti Tank by Svlla: 7:20pm On May 27, 2022 |
MangekyoAlt: What are heavy guns? Try to be specific. Howitzers are heavy guns. Did you know that?
Ps when I say Howitzers, I don't mean self propelled. I mean mounted Howitzers as well as those fitted on armored trains. They're heavy guns. Does that make howitzer a tank?? Relax a little, mahn. Tank is used in the broad sense Modern tanks are more easy to classify than earlier made tanks So, it's not just about the armament that makes a vehicle a tank but the armor too |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Gov. by Svlla: 7:13pm On May 27, 2022 |
Drenimarcus: I dont think so.
A group of Russian volunteers from the Chechen Republic has completely taken control of the entire line of contact with bandits in the city of Severodonetsk, LPR" - Ramzan Kadyrov. . Damn! If Ukraine fails to withdraw those gallant soldiers they will suffer a huge loss in morale and good fighting men |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Video:russian BTR 80 Tank Collect Wotowoto From Ukraine Anti Tank by Svlla: 7:11pm On May 27, 2022 |
MangekyoAlt: Arrogance would do you no good. But I perhaps I made a huge mistake siting Forbes, which has proven to be an unreliable source for accurate info. But the thing is, I could list you dozens of sources to back up my claim. But I believe that should be left for later as on currently busy.
Meanwhile, just to add a few words before hitting the submit button. an armoured combat vehicle is designed and equipped primarily to transport a combat infantry squad, and which is armed with an integral or organic cannon of at least 20 millimeters calibre and sometimes an antitank missile launcher - official UN description
With this description, it's easy to deduce and differentiate that If it carries infantry but has no heavy weapons, then its an APC. And If it carries infantry and has heavy weapons, then its an IFV. If it has heavy weapons but no infantry its an AFV (Generic Armored Fighting Vehicle), light tank, or Tank, as with the case of the terminator. The idea that all armored vehicles are tanks is a ridiculous assumption to make, honestly.
Meanwhile, this could be a worthwhile read if yooure willing to https://whitefleet.net/2015/12/01/military-vehicle-identification-guide-ground-vehicles/#:~:text=The%20main%20difference%20between%20the,Usually%20around%2020%2D30%20tons.
Drop a link, I'll go through in my spare time.  So let me ask you a simple what are heavy guns? And does heavy guns alone qualify to categorize it as a tank? Although, like I said earlier you're right. But the term tank can be used in its broad term as regards the armoured protection OP is not entirely wrong I just gave an example of the AFV BMPT Terminator that is just a T72 MBT with the torrent of an BMPT |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Gov. by Svlla: 7:03pm On May 27, 2022 |
Drenimarcus: Luhansk Region Gauleiter Announces Mass Fleeing of AFU from Occupied Territory of LNR It is possible that "our fighters will have to retreat in order to avoid being surrounded," the head of the regional military administration, Haidai, said. He added that heavy fighting was taking place in Severodonetsk and its environs. Will they be able to withdraw them despite the Artemovsk-Lisichansk road being under fire and Russia now maintaining checkpoints and fire positions on that road |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Joe Biden weighing sending long range missile to Ukraine by Svlla: 7:00pm On May 27, 2022 |
Sending long range missiles is a bad move because they won't be able to deny complicity
It will easily translate to NATO missiles against Russia and that will be an escalation
But then talk is cheap. Make dem send am first |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Gov. by Svlla: 6:56pm On May 27, 2022 |
Drenimarcus: Ukkies are considering withdrawing to avoid encirclement. If they don't manage to withdraw those guys then they are more stupi.d And it will send a negative message to their soldiers |
Foreign Affairs › Re: US Has Made A Habit Out Of Looting. by Svlla: 6:52pm On May 27, 2022 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Video:russian BTR 80 Tank Collect Wotowoto From Ukraine Anti Tank by Svlla: 6:45pm On May 27, 2022 |
MangekyoAlt: I'm not getting anything twisted bro. Go and read the meaning of an IFV on wiki. IFV's are more like APCS, but the difference is they are designed to both carry infantries into battlefields (like APC) and also provide support with their cannon.
For the BMNT terminator. I'm not sure what category to place that. It's a modernized MBT, designed for urban warfare, not fit carrying troops. It's like you don't even understand me. IFV like APCS, have alot of space in them to accommodate troops. But unlike APC, they have cannons to support troops in combat.
Meanwhile, I expected you to make a little research before replying me. Please do before replying. Or I perhaps I should drop you a link. Start from here https://www.forbes.com/sites/sebastienroblin/2020/11/25/this-is-not-a-tank-a-laypersons-guide-to-armored-fighting-vehicles/?sh=5760dc7e1831 I dont know why people bring Forbes inside military matter  it's okay bro You sha get my point Op can call it tank Go and read up the first tanks, invented by the British They are more like Armoured personnel carriers Tank in the broad sense is a mobile fortress. If it is armoured and if it's mobile then it passes for a tank. Not all IFV are tanks so I get your point But all AFV,APC,MRAP are tanks BTR80 in this case is a tank and has enough protection to withstand high explosive anti tank (HEAT) Projectiles |
Foreign Affairs › Re: US Has Made A Habit Out Of Looting. by Svlla: 6:37pm On May 27, 2022 |
While the pirates continue to seize from other countries their allies are suffering too
The IRGC forces, in response to the detention of a tanker carrying Iranian oil by the Greek authorities, detained two Greek tankers, IRNA reported. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Gov. by Svlla: 6:35pm On May 27, 2022 |
Drenimarcus: Luhansk Region Gauleiter Announces Mass Fleeing of AFU from Occupied Territory of LNR It is possible that "our fighters will have to retreat in order to avoid being surrounded," the head of the regional military administration, Haidai, said. He added that heavy fighting was taking place in Severodonetsk and its environs. Yes Serious fighting in Severedonesk ryt now...Street fighting and Russians are making advances |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Gov. by Svlla: 6:34pm On May 27, 2022 |
The IRGC forces, in response to the detention of a tanker carrying Iranian oil by the Greek authorities, detained two Greek tankers, IRNA reported.
Earlier the United States seize a Russian vessel carrying Ukraine oil off Greece coast.
It's no longer thievery or stealing of foreign reserve
It's now Piracy
Cc Drenimarcus |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia Releases Evidence Of How US Created Monkeypox In Nigeria by Svlla: 6:30pm On May 27, 2022 |
MJBOLT:
you still dey hope for Nigeria 
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Video:russian BTR 80 Tank Collect Wotowoto From Ukraine Anti Tank by Svlla: 6:25pm On May 27, 2022 |
MangekyoAlt: BTR 80's are IFV's not tanks. There's a huge difference between a MBT and an IFV. Calling an IFV a tank is like calling a self propelled howitzer, or APC a tank, when there's clearly a huge difference between them and the capability and role they play in combat Don't get it twisted Armoured personnel vehicles is a tank Armoured Reconnaissance Vehicles is a tank Armoured fighting vehicle is a tank Main Battle tank tank is a tank Tank definition in the military is broad Even the BMPT Terminator 2 used in Severedonesk is a tank So therefore, BTR Bronetransporter 80 is a tank Whether it's a battle tank or a support tank like mine resistant and armoured protected vehicle BMPT Terminator 2 for instance uses T72 MBT chassis |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia Releases Evidence Of How US Created Monkeypox In Nigeria by Svlla: 6:13pm On May 27, 2022 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Video:russian BTR 80 Tank Collect Wotowoto From Ukraine Anti Tank by Svlla: 6:11pm On May 27, 2022 |
MangekyoAlt: Is BTR 80 a tank? What a dumb op If BTR 80 is not a tank then what is it? |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia Releases Evidence Of How US Created Monkeypox In Nigeria by Svlla: 6:04pm On May 27, 2022 |
Drenimarcus: US has 3 biolabs in Nigeria. Russia even pinpointed the locations of the biolabs in Nigeria. Damn! What going on laidis  Am seeing 1 Lagos 1 Abuja 2 Kaduna |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Gov. by Svlla: 5:53pm On May 27, 2022 |
Washington is not going to fight over Ukraine, including at sea, the Pentagon said.
It was about the possibility of military intervention to unblock Odessa.
By the way, its port was so sharply needed by Western countries because of the rise in grain prices. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Gov. by Svlla: 5:50pm On May 27, 2022 |
Drenimarcus: I saw it too. This will serve as a detriment to the mercs who are left in Ukraine. True But it will be disheartening if their government doesn't do anything for them. At least they should try |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Gov. by Svlla: 5:49pm On May 27, 2022 |
Drenimarcus: Ukraine inside the cauldron!
Cc svlla. Yes its been confirmed Their only window now is to escape to Lisichansk without equipment through the southern Bridge linking Lisichansk to Severedonesk. Russian has control of the Norther bridge and has destroyed the 3rd bridge meanwhile the southern bridge cannot support heavy equipment. There is still fight going on in the Artemovsk-Lisichansk road and there's a small window to escape from there after escaping Severedonesk If they are lucky. It's not completely hopeless yet for them Serious Fighting in Severedonesk on-going. AFV and Tank Support BMPT-72 Terminator 2 and BMPT Terminator has been spotted in Severedonesk doing heavy damage to the Ukrainian force concentration |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Gov. by Svlla: 5:42pm On May 27, 2022 |
The DPR has completed an investigation into a criminal case against mercenaries from Britain and Morocco, they face the death penalty, the Prosecutor General’s Office of the Republic told RIA Novosti.
According to her, the involvement of British Sean Pinner and Andrew Hill and Moroccan Saadun Brahim in the fighting against Donbass has been established.
Cc Drenimarcus |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Gov. by Svlla: 11:09pm On May 26, 2022 |
Drenimarcus: Arestovich already understood everything, and went over to the side of Russia. We are waiting him on the First Channel, together with Ilya Kiva �.
"According to unverified reports, the city of Liman was lost. The way the Russian army captured it shows that there are very talented commanders there, and this shows the increased level of operational management and skills of the Russian army".
Liman officially liberated Liman now in Russian hands
The Ukrainian forces at Lisichansk-Severedonesk have until Soledar is taken to evacuate those cities |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Gov. by Svlla: 7:01pm On May 26, 2022 |
Drenimarcus: If they do any shit to Belarus, hell will break loose cos there will be no gloves. Poland won't do shit....they are scared of Russians And that will be an escalation Nato is not ready for right now |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Gov. by Svlla: 7:00pm On May 26, 2022 |
Drenimarcus: It is because of the arrest of Dodan. WTF is Manya smoking? Protests already in Moldova tho. Maya is about to destroy Moldova  |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Gov. by Svlla: 6:55pm On May 26, 2022 |
Drenimarcus: Yeah i think Polish troops are moving gears too. We will see how it goes but it is already bound to fail from the start. The Escalation is about to happen |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Gov. by Svlla: 6:55pm On May 26, 2022 |
TIRASPOL just declared the government in Chisinau invalidThe president of the unrecognized PMR(Transnistria) dismissed the government of Moldova
Vladimir Krasnoselsky signed the corresponding decree today.Shite is about to hit the fan  Cc Drenimarcus |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Gov. by Svlla: 6:25pm On May 26, 2022 |
Drenimarcus: Ukraine amassing soldiers near the Belarus border. Lukashesko just the Belarusian military to open a command center near that front. Is Ukraine going to open a second front?
CC Svlla. That will be like shooting their own foot It is suicide for Ukraine to open another front. It's finding it difficult already, unable to fight in Donbass, another front will finish them off Perhaps they are banking on Poland's help |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Pro Russian Donetsk Soldiers Decide To Stop Fighting For Russia. Video by Svlla: 12:08pm On May 26, 2022 |
 Igbofam2: Jah knows man...Jah knows... Preach on  |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Pro Russian Donetsk Soldiers Decide To Stop Fighting For Russia. Video by Svlla: 12:07pm On May 26, 2022 |
Igbofam2: I know and I understand. No wonder you thought cancelling the post would also cancel the OP abi?  Just imagine  you can't even quote him with your full chest You're loosing it. You need to be restrained  |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Pro Russian Donetsk Soldiers Decide To Stop Fighting For Russia. Video by Svlla: 12:04pm On May 26, 2022 |
Igbofam2: I am really a major thorn in your skin and have a vice grips on your scrotum 
E say na I need to be restrained and put away because I dey always post anti Russian stuff which exposes them. 
You post your anti Ukrainian propaganda in your threads but I never go there to comment but the very instant I post one anti Russian thread you all appear 
That should show you who actually needs to be restrained and put away in a mental home for degenerates 
1 million of you LiLiPutians cannot stop me Ogbeni... Go and try again as your anger increases 
Werey Omo Are you the only one that post anti Russian stuff here? Your post are thousand miles far from reality and can only come from someone that's mentally unstable Effect of excess igbo in your brains Stop doing drugs mahn! It's not good for your health  |