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why is the woman that the bible is blaming or suggesting that transgressed while the man, her partner, created earlier than her is excused, because he wondered about, leaving her unprotected or supported away from the influence of the satanic snake?

what job did Adam have to keep him away from his partner, mate when everything was just there for their taking, so much so that it was snake that had to be her companion and adviser?

is a tree full of knowledge when already humans have brains in their heads and Adam was already the one who named all things, according to the bibles without saying that God would have inspired him of the names of things?

if there is a tree of knowledge, then God would not have given man any brain but might have let man eat knowledge and acquires enough from ingesting "it" from the source.

as a muslim, the blame was on Adam and Eve, whereas responsibility, primarily on this issue fell on Adam. what you find in the Quranic narration is that the tree was just a tree of the trial of the couple, so that at long last they could be made to start their earthly lives, where they will have children, we being members of the children of Adam and Eve.

Satan made suggestion because he was already jealous of Adam the first man, and he being a jinn an earlier created specie is endowed with free will, unlike the Angels to obey or disobey. hence he did not prostrate to Adam upon being commanded.

The original and permanent sin are upon Satan the rejected, while original mercy and forgiveness are upon man, Adam and Eve. Everyone is responsible for his/her own action and the consequences of the sum total of it at the end.

if anyone has studied the history of the civilization of islam, specifically in spain, the last caliphate in turkey as examples, christians and jews enjoyed freedom, enlightenment and these periods were the back drops to their own [christian and jewish] rise and awareness.

al ahzar and other universiries of learning including university of timbuktu admitted and allowed non muslims to learn and flourish to bring about the Quranic verse in practical experience; there is no compulsion in religion.

now, we in islam in nigeria, specifically the yorubas should develop our own universities to dwarf whatever oyedepo and others can produce. muslims got to see themselves as the endangered specie here. with Allah's Help, all things positive are possible and all things negative are preventable.

priority of the muslims should include several mega universities, anyway instead of making a high mountain out of a termite mound.

if it is agreed that at age 6 or even some high number, it is not possible to work, we must have to agree that this proves that Aisha [ra] who had a successful marriage was not in that age bracket.

this simple statement from the post above about age that marriage will absolutely not work supports our claim that Aisha is not younger than 16 when she married the noblest of human [as].

Quran speaks of the age of maturity starting from the age of puberty in order to be married; for both male and female. only in deceit will anyone claim anything earlier or the ruling is different for male. again, it is imitating Muhammad [as] that stops a man like me not to have flings or marry an immature spouse, the half baked, incomplete personality.

you missed everything including ability to process the fact that at age 6, you could not have engaged in contract negotiation and be satisfied with the outcome. then to remember all the details some 20 to 30 or more years later. if that can happen then you are miracle having at age 6 the mental and physical capability of a woman not younger than 26 years old. you should not miss too much now that is made into like baby food for you with the bib on the neck while sitting in high chair, and mommy is saying open your mouth baby, here comes apricot. seyi, dont bore me, please.

[Quote]« #3 on: Today at 05:33:42 PM »

@ Sweetbitters,

Your obsession with the name Jesus only beckons on me to ask you: WHO IS JESUS TO YOU?

Just pray you dont come up with those bogus and lengthy meaningless posts of yours. . .should i see that, i'll quit this chat quickly Wink[/Quote]i feel like throwing up. has your master shaytan told you where he lives, what he eats and how he operates in order to lead man astray?
I am not obsessed with anyone. But i love all prophets of God and I do not accuse any of them of any unholy action. While i revere Jesus son of Mary, i am in opposition to those who hate him by lying against him; deviating in their assessment of him his correct position and nature. When people say that he was encountered by Satan, carrying him, suggesting to him, showing him, driving him, and even becoming Peter, i ask if it was physical or spiritual. No one is eager to tell me how Satan was able to control Jesus that much, in many situations so much so that he cried out, get away from me, satan. Did anyone see satan or it was only Jesus that saw him? This goes to your poor effort that you call a thread about Muhammad's [as] teaching about Satan. I laugh at you and so do all those who believe in One God in all His Perfection.



@Kay 17; « #4 on: Today at 06:07:47 PM »
[Quote]If God was omniscient, he wouldn't need prayers to do the right thing.

@sweetnecta you support terrorists? Shocked[/Quote]How did you arrive at this question from what I said, above? My statement that Boko Haram and bowing to Jesus is 100% unlikely while the guy was asking the christians to pray can not warrant your question. Didn't you read my stating that I disagree with Boko Haram, saying that they are ignorant? Sorry, the not before a supporter didn't register. I was typing so fast and did not review before posting. I am completely at the opposite end of what Boko Haram is. I do not see Book as forbidden and do not accept any violence at all. My wife was spared only by earlier appointment, she could have been at the UN Office in Abuja during the evil thing that Boko Haram did.



@toba « #5 on: Today at 06:25:12 PM »
[Quote]sweetnecta, do u hate Jesus?[/Quote]I don't even hate you. And you are less important and less beloved to me than Jesus son of Mary [as] is to me.

^^^^^^^^ well since I am a yoruba muslim, hence my concern.

it is the yorubas who will say ono kon o wo oja.

they forget God has an established pattern, a way that is consistent, unchanging and not confusing
the yorubas are the christians; they shift the goal post as soon as they think the new idea is beneficial.

if God wanted to accept all types of religions He would not have sent human prophets to man with the same theme throughout the ages; God is One, Unique, undiluted, perfect and consistent.

if God had created Judaism, then for sure He would not create Christianity. If God had created Christianity, then for sure He would not have revealed Islam and said that all prophets were Muslims and perfected Islam as a favor to mankind on Muhammad [as], the seal of prophetic office.

Miracle, though is an indicator of guidance. But it is not the only indicator, but a part of the complexity of what makes perfect guidance; the Commandment of God.

Today, people have abandoned almost all other parts but focused exclusively on miracle, without realizing that being alive is a miracle on each living, and death is a miracle to remind us of our already established end. External miracles focused on therefore, is not exclusive to truth because even miracle in one form or another does happen in the community of disbelievers.

What leads many to abandon true faith is nothing other than despair/desperation.

if i hear adhan i will stop eating, except what is in my mouth, already.

as a matter of fact, if one knows from list what the time of dawn is assumed, it is advisable to stop eating 10 minutes before it.

my dear JeSoul uses 4 [same text book, different authors] and another to make 5.

[Quote]« #7 on: September 27, 2011, 07:40 PM »

Quote from: AbuHanifa on September 24, 2011, 07:41 PM
^^ was alkhwarizmi quoted above a muslim, pagan or jew? Can u tell me the religion of alfarabi, alkindi, avicena?

he was a persian. No evidence he was a muslim. Persians had their own religion.[/Quote]any land that can be called persian today, is Islamic.

Jesus didnt find any church.

Which building?

Or the sand or desert or flood swallowed it? Or is slaughtered like the rest of them?

^^^^^^^^^^^ So seyibrown is housing satan 1 inch or so up? i pity you, because from your statement, you and satan are one body.

this is disaster that you have indicated.

do you remember what you did to a finite detail at age 6; say primary 2 at best?

i do hope that you signed prenuptial with mr. brown? Imagine you doing that at primary 2; participating in formulating it making sure that your right is guaranteed?

can you do that at this age of the computers?

one of my nephews was telling me about his memories of his father. this boy was born in July 1975. his father died October 1983. he said i cant remember my father and i want to hear about him from those who truly knew him.

his older brother born in 1971 was excited when i was telling him about his own father because he was 12 when the man died. we who knew him as adults can tell them what no one can except their mother, from a spousal viewpoint, while we discuss his as our brother.

Imagine a 6 year old capability like what the enemies of islam like you continue to say? If it happened, which didn't, it is a true miracle of itself and the 6 years old must have had the mental and physical competence of at least a 20 year old woman.

^^^^^ The freak above has no brain. The reason is that he lives in England and he should have thought, maybe the individual is a french speaker or other reasons like typing too fast.

@Wetu: [Quote]It's miserable being a Muslim trying to prove the Bible wrong when it has already proven itself with one simple prophecy:

Mat 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.[/Quote]The above is not from Jesus, like many in the Gospel are not. If Jesus didnt say it [and it not clear what Jesus said, anyhow], then it is worthless as far as from the "Gospel".


[Quote]« #2 on: September 27, 2011, 10:53 AM »
Unless you have seen Jesus preaching anywhere in Nigeria, I think your question is answered:
Joh 20:21 Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you.[/Quote]Who is the wife of his father that for him for that father? The last I checked, it was the holy ghost that did the mounting, not his father [i am using father loosely here]. The same holy ghost that Jesus is commanding, if he can command and if there is a holy ghost, cant be the same as his father, The One Who does not have to have sex in order to create what He wills.

@Wetu: « #1 on: September 27, 2011, 10:50 AM »
[Quote]Jesus was sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel and then He sent his disciples:

Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Mat 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.[/Quote]Upon what authority did Jesus stand to send his disciples to places beyond his job description; outside the sphere of the children of israel? If Jesus was limited to the Children of israel tell us why he will shun the commandment of his Lord to send people with little faith, seeking miracles to all nations? Did they get to Nigeria? If they didn't then either all nations mean something other than all nations that you are suggesting here, or they are deviant just as Jesus was deviant to the commandment of his Lord.

I was asking some friend yesterday to give me the name of the holy spirit. he could not. He sheepishly explained that holy spirit is the part of God that is involved in creation and the likes. So he said Jesus was the first born. He asked him first born of from which mother as wife and reminded him that Jesus was reported to be sending or praying to his Lord to send the holy spirit after he would have left.

This will mean that Jesus will be asking his Lord to go or command his Lord to come as holy spirit. What did the holy spirit accomplished of the duties of the another comforter?


Finally, is there something that is beneath his Lord God Almighty so that He will not do it? I saw a poster where it is said of Lion; regardless of the economy of the jungle, I will not eat grass. It is not who i am, it is beneath me, it does not fit my nature.

Should The God Who sent Jesus be at least stay above what does not fit Him, what is certainly beneath Him; death, lacking full and complete knowledge, hunger, almost all human experiences? Do computer chip manufacturers have to be the chip in order to know what the chip is capable of doing? Isn't there any difference between Maker and what He made?


It's miserable being a Muslim trying to prove the Bible wrong when it has already proven itself with one simple prophecy:

Mat 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.


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Re: Jusus Was Send To The Loss Sheep Of Israel.
« #2 on: September 27, 2011, 10:53 AM »

Unless you have seen Jesus preaching anywhere in Nigeria, I think your question is answered:

Joh 20:21 Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you.

my dear, Jesus is not even preaching anywhere now. And whatever he preached to his people, then, we do not have with absolute certainty a record of and there are people who call themselves christians outside the fold of the people called children of Israel, whom Jesus said he was sent.

if the statement of Jesus is true, no one outside the fold of children of Israel should listen and or follow Jesus enough to create a religion or a way after his name. Christianity is such a religion or way created.

nothing on earth justify sexual aggression against any woman.
if she has no single item of clothing on her, consider her crazy enough to be hospitalized.

if she wore enough but leaves enough to excite you, consider her unwise or look at her as your sister.

has any man ever consider what may excite the woman that she may, if the shoe is on the other foot, she would be the one trying molest you?
How about when men are topless, or free-balling or wearing form fitting clothing?

If women can hold their sexual emotion, then men hold yours.

You see why the Quran says to the women; Wrap yourselves up when you go about away from your house so that you may not be MOLESTED and be identified as Muslim women.

How true is the word of Quran.

Even though I am a supporter of Boko Haram, how does the prayer that you are hoping for correspond to the Title?

Boko Haram will never bow to Jesus, even in their worst day of extreme ignorance.
No one should bow to Jesus because he was only a messenger which he demonstrated by his many prayers of prostration to God at Gethsemane.

Your trinity is a fluke.

I have been asking every Christians that I know to give me the name of the holy spirit, in a similar way they will give me the name of Jesus. Not a single one can provide it, even Paul could never.

is there a bigger or even equal hypocrite but the hypocrite person who reads the Pauline verse in Corinthians, above, and concluded that Paul was saying women covering head is not referring to the hair on the head?

what use is the word 'shaven' therefore if the head [full of hair, long or short] is not covered? to allude to hair in any other part of the body except the head, is truly a deceitful tactics. if Paul meant hair on the legs, why advise that head be covered? shouldn't be hosiery or leg warmers be appropriate?

for a person who has never seen a thing acceptable from Islam, to accuse anyone of being anti Christianity you may have to label yourself a greater bigot.

here is what Paul said about himself and you may still have to wonder why Islam is critical about his statement;

Paul admitted he is a liar in 1 Corinthians chapter 9 verses 19-22:

19For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more. 20And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law; 21To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law. 22To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ hypocrite. if you don't know who jusus chris is, you must know who Jesus Christ is.

Jesus Christ was sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

True or False?

Discuss.

i am educating a better christian about abraham family.

i have no time for your silliness.

@Toba: « #61 on: Today at 01:58:41 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on Yesterday at 10:58:30 PM
How did boko haram featured in the above? So a white person who prefers to marry white is an extremist?

A jew who advocates that jewish women should marry jewish men is an extremist? An african woman who rejects marriages from non african man is an extremist? Religious purist regarding marriage is an extremist?

No. The extremist are those who carry religion on their heads and live all their lives based of dogma.[/Quote]And when the christians do this and when you do it by saying you carry the cross and follow Jesus step by step, none of you is an extremist and you do not carry religion on your heads and live all your lives based on dogma? darn hypocrite disbeliever.


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Where ever you live, sir, you must have seen few muslim families.
Thats not true. I see them daily, i have them as friends and as colleagues at work place[/Quote]And i sir, is a muslim who lives my life and see others live theirs, accordingly. If I want a christian woman, i tell her first that christianity has to go. You on the other hand is putting your true words under your tongue while you are allowing lies to flow out of your lips.


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They are husbands and wives with children, obeying what the Quran and Sunnah prescribed
Some [/b]overzealously do it hence turn themselves into terrorists[/Quote]All the muslims i know are committed to Islam, and non is a terrorist.


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The Bibles prescribed that the christians not be unyoke with unbelievers. Muslims in this case are unbelievers, according to the Bibles. We do not take 3 gods separate and somehow combine them up to be 1 God.
[b]Upon all the schooling i have been giving to u about the trinity, are yet to have a grasp of same. Too bad[/Quote]Before you are thought of as a future human, i had learned that there is no way God exist in 3. I was reading something, yesterday about the nature of lion. somebody wrote about this animal that there is no way, regardless of how bad the economy of the jungle is, lion will not eat grass because it is just not in its nature as it is beneath it. Can something be beneath God? Yes. One of those is dying. Another is being defeated. Another is being a worshiper. There are many things that are beneath God, the One Who created man. Splitting into 3 is one of those things.


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How would muslim wives of Christian husbands fair in the verses where the wives are supposed to be quite in the church? Muslims don't have churches and do not go to churches. How will she reconcile the covering of the head versus the covering of the whole body except face, hands and feet? While Paul was putting his best effort forward to halt women from being nu de, he did not have the qualification to qualify for being the another comforter. That qualification is ordained by God on Muhammad [as] who the revelation that he received prescribed full cover when they go out so that they can be identified as muslims and also not be molested.
Am sure you do cat call women, still, sir? Pat Robetson must be a christian boko haram.
[b]Seriously [/b]what u are saying in the latter part of your post is very obscure. U are mixing things together. I dont know what mean by Paul being a comforter or not. this has got nothing to do with the topic at hand[/Quote]Am engaged in giving you a thorough education so that inchaAllah, you will not have excuse against any muslim on the day of Judgment.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ listen; yesterday a friend and i were talking about age of women for young looking 50something men.

we are both africans now. he from ghana and i am from nigeria. to my surprise he said appropriate age of such a wife should e at least 40. and any below this, the husband should be put in jail for at least 40 years!

i said is 20something an underage now? this was where we stopped and i know that 18 is not a minor in any country.

imagine a man who has such a view like this ghanaian friend, imagine if marry a 20 year old woman. even a woman in your age. he will say that i am a pedophile. Such is the mindset of dishonesty.

Aisha [as] had spoken well of herself in ways that agrees with Quran. The age of marriage in Islam is at least age that a person reaches puberty. This is not less that 15 according to what the scholars said. A daughter of a wealthy patron was what Aisha was. You will at least expect that her father was on her side, protecting her.

the messenger [as] is the best of all that have walked the earth, bar none. if anyone had a full experience of how humans live, it was the married Muhammad [as]. if he didn't allow underage marriage in his community, he will not be the one doing it.

and just you have one hadith that satisfy your deceitful mind to justify your disbelief does not mean it is correct, since it disagrees with verse on the age of marriage; Surah Nisaa [Chapter 4] verse 6 [Quote]And test the orphans [in their abilities] until they reach marriageable age. Then if you[b] perceive in them sound judgement[/b], release their property to them. And do not consume it excessively and quickly, [anticipating] that they will grow up. And whoever, [when acting as guardian], is self-sufficient should refrain [from taking a fee]; and whoever is poor - let him take according to what is acceptable. Then when you release their property to them, bring witnesses upon them. And sufficient is Allah as Accountant.[/Quote]

@Uplawal; Jazakallahu Khair. Sometimes we have to stand against evil before others are forced into it, or accepts it as the norm.

@Toba; Posted on: Today at 07:24:23 AM
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our inyention is to wipe out wicked and evil extremism generation. we can only achieve this by those who carry the burden of christ, illuminating those that dont. u see we live, sleep and breath jesus.[/Quote]Christians never ceases to amaze me with their lies. They are almost as bad as hypocrites, except that they are not muslims. The wicked in extremism is the non muslims. hypocrisy is the burden that carry. and you are not carrying it except what you select to acknowledge of the lies. Reality is that Jesus didn't marry. So live up to that part as well. Jesus was neither a Christian nor a Jew by religion because the jews dont prostrate their faces, but muslims do and Jesus did.


[Quote] hes the author and finisher of our faith.[/Quote]Christianity didnt start with and didnt finish with Jesus. Look into your Bibles because you will see what others wrote without seeing anything Jesus wrote. At least the OT was said to have contain what Moses wrote about his own death. Show me a thing Jesus wrote. When he left there was a man called Saul who became Paul and authored and finished your religion which you borrow the name of Jesus on. If Jesus was the true author, you will prostrating to Ellah day and night. If Jesus is the finisher of your faith, Paul would have not been so relevant. If Jesus is anything in your faith you would have sincerely honored his words and followed the another comforter. But you are only a lip service and nothing from the heart.


[Quote] the bright morning star. as he lives in our, what ever we produce shall be for signs and wonders. u and your fellow pple cant stop us. we are the generations that seek the God of Jacob. be prepared for it afa sweetnecta. u can do nothing[/Quote]Allah has made families in Nigeria muslims. And also many in America. And the rest of the world. The rebirth of islam is here. You, toba is not going to stop it. And God of Adam and Eve and all their Children is more Generous and Powerful than what you imagine. Before Jacob who defeated your God, our God is Owner of Power without partner. and those of you who pow wow with toba, when you marry him, you will see mr Hyde coming out here instead of dr jekll of courting/toasting. All that will happen is that you make a mistake to say to him that you are muslim and you will see the the gloom of the morning start on you. Can morning star shine as bright as a clear sky full moon? does disbelief in Allah has a leg to stand on? That is toba for you. That is Kufr at work; poison or force hidden while they offer olive branch. Then they cutting down is sudden when you are not prepared.

my dear sister Uplawal; As sSalaamualaykum wa Rahmatullah.

i just read your comment about my wife. I had to laugh, because i will like to know how relaxer [something that relaxes] is haram?

i believe everything that is not worship is permissible, except what is prohibited [and alcohol is not a thing that is of woership. it is one of those forbidden. so is illegal sex] of it. therefore i will like to understand how a relaxer that allows hair to be manageable, even though you have to cover it is forbidden?

it well established that all act of worship is forbidden unless permitted [so sajdah to Adam [as] by the Angels was ordered/permitted. and when Iblis the jinn in there community did not make sajdah, he became a disbeliever, rebellious. also sajdah to Yusuf [as] by his family was permitted, in fulfillment of his prophetic dream]

my sister may Allah make you and all muslims, males and females grow stronger. i like your spirit of commitment.

i am working on the second.
surprise, both are former christians. you should be throwing dust on yourself in lamentations.


while you are arguing in ignorance, there are many planting the seed of truth;
letting people who add and understand evidence and facts to consider 3 equals 1 for a reality.

people reject this obvious fallacy.

I am not for raisins. I am for hourins.

does your wife bears your last name after she abandoned hers upon marrying you?
should you not be sad instead of smiling, always, christian soldier?

I know soldiers are peaceful people. They demonstrated that in Kalakuta republic in the days.
they are demonstrating that today around the world. Christian zombie [soldier].

the nigerian muslims men; you should stand up to the challenge of a kufr.
Are you muslim men of Nigeria not from Muhammad [as] is the leader of the victorious party?

If you guys can't handle it, maybe we should send Islamic cavalries from the west to help.
many of our foreign brothers are marrying moroccans. its about time they come to Nigeria and indeed west africa to circumvent the likes of toba.

What ever toba produces with his cross on his neck, it will be a cross of a burden. who wants that.

O ma shee o.

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Quote from: belabela on Today at 11:58:25 AM
@ frosbel
It is good you brought this up yourself. I have noticed that you engage in unnecessary arguments at times. I agree with most of your theology but you don't need some of the arguments you get yourself into. You can point out an error and can be assertive but you should refrain from " angry comments". Just a suggestion.

Angry Grin Grin

Never.

But I agree, sometimes I get dragged too deep into debates with people who really need prayer.

Thanks.[/Quote]How effective is the prayer of a disbeliever? Not at all effective.



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Re: Derailment Of Christian Threads Becomes a Pastime Hobby in the Religious Section
« #22 on: Today at 09:28:44 PM »

How funny and ironic . . .[quote][/Quote]Dont mind the crying babies. You bold on the first bold. I hope your hubby knows where you are?



[Quote] Many of the perpetual religion section troublemakers are all here on one thread complaining about each other Grin

@Frosbel (and others as well),
no complaints will be attended to that do not come attached with a link to a specific thread where the crime occured. Ya'll keep talking in general sentimental strokes . . . I asked for specific links on that other thread and suddenly all the 'complainers' disappeared.[/Quote]yhey can't throw down, but they want to wrestle. imagine that.

While you are ignorant about Islam, it is obligation from the Quran.

Allah says everyone should be known by his or her father's name.
Since I am married to a nigerian, I did not do as the Nigerians do.

We did as Islam prescribed. She is my wife, daughter of her father.

Our religion is unique. It is preserved for mankind from the point of completion and it will extend till end of time. If you have Ph. D., you can't move Islam from its position, the topmost level of purity of religion.


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[Quote]« #29 on: Today at 05:46:15 PM »

Quote from: Sweetnecta on Today at 05:06:34 PM
there is no old school or new school in Islam. the westernized issue is shunned by the muslims in the west who know their deen.
Allah or His Messenger [as] did not say a woman can be exposed just one time; on the occasion of her Nikah and covers up when she goes out or pray. A woman covers, always [thats what is supposed to be], as if ready to pray, except in the presence of those she could "uncover'; brother, etc to a limit but husband all the way.
Again, the bad behaviors of Yoruba or in general african muslims is not to indicate that there is a new school emerging but their is bidah [deviation, as in innovation] emerging, at least. Islam was complete in the time of the Messenger [as]. We do wear appropriate clothing in Islam and it does not have to be arabic or asiatic or even african.
I do wear jeans. and the west i know enough. the old school is the only school that exist, if it is in conformity with what Muhammad [as] brought.


and here was i thinking boko haram was an extremist group. They are just good old muslims who know their deen.[/Quote]How did boko haram featured in the above? So a white person who prefers to marry white is an extremist? A jew who advocates that jewish women should marry jewish men is an extremist? An african woman who rejects marriages from non african man is an extremist? Religious purist regarding marriage is an extremist? Where ever you live, sir, you must have seen few muslim families. They are husbands and wives with children, obeying what the Quran and Sunnah prescribed.
The Bibles prescribed that the christians not be unyoke with unbelievers. Muslims in this case are unbelievers, according to the Bibles. We do not take 3 gods separate and somehow combine them up to be 1 God. How would muslim wives of Christian husbands fair in the verses where the wives are supposed to be quite in the church? Muslims don't have churches and do not go to churches. How will she reconcile the covering of the head versus the covering of the whole body except face, hands and feet? While Paul was putting his best effort forward to halt women from being nu de, he did not have the qualification to qualify for being the another comforter. That qualification is ordained by God on Muhammad [as] who the revelation that he received prescribed full cover when they go out so that they can be identified as muslims and also not be molested.
Am sure you do cat call women, still, sir? Pat Robetson must be a christian boko haram.

[Quote]« #5 on: September 25, 2011, 10:25 AM »

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nothing good ever started because of any religion except in the case of Islam.

Lol.[/Quote]I laugh at your ignorance if you didn't know that one or more of the oldest Universities in the world started based on islamic injunctions of seeking knowledge. With all the centuries that Christianity and Judaism had over Islam, nothing like that existed. Further, the idea of lecture and academic setting was based on Islam. Scrubbing of arms before surgery, as simple as that is is from Islam. laugh until you get tired. You should laugh at yourself for being ignorant.



[Quote]Islam good  Huh Huh Huh Huh  Sorry let me take another look at what you said, Islam good  Huh Huh Huh

Now I know you have lost it, Islam is a bad as bad can be and if SATAN can be found anywhere, Mecca will be the right place to go looking for him. Islam is not only bad but it is sickening to the sane man.[/Quote]i love to see you come to Makka. You will even find a man hung on a cross on the way after cross Egypt. Satan that took a man the cliff should not be hard to find. Just go to on the cliff and you will see him engaging you. You will not have to go too far from Galilee or Nazareth. When you reach Jerusalem, the Jews will gladly tell you to go back to Jezez.



[Quote]A religion started by a child molester, wife snatcher and warmonger is now good !!!![/Quote]Its seems as if you are partially talking about how the Bible described the holy ghost and David. Check your Bible to be sure who molested young lady Mary and who stole Urias wife and have him killed.



[Quote]This is the height of delusion and almost bordering on madness !![/Quote]Finally, you are able to describe your condition.



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Arabs and Muslims under the banner of Islam conquered the world, l

Which world did they conquer   Grin Grin Grin Grin[/Quote]Spain. Turkey. Syria. Persia. Malaysia. Is that enough for you or you still want more dirt stuffed in your mouth? He is like Fir'awn.



[Quote]Middle east and some parts of Spain is now the world, you have lost it brother.[/Quote]How about Africa? El Stupido. I am trying to paint you the color that fits your nature.



[Quote]After Europe twice stopped you in france and then cut of the head of ISLAM in Turkey , destroying the caliphate  Grin[/Quote]And the renaissance is starting up. Hang around for 200 years and see how much is left of France. I know you can't hang around for 200 years. Even 100 years.



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Liberated women from being owned to owners.
Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

No comment here, it is there for all to see !![/Quote]Alhamdulillah that you are ignorant. While your wife is owned by you, bearing your last name, my retains hers by what Islam gave.



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Under Islam, backward people excelled in all fields of knowledge and cultured the world.

So how come you dress , walk and talk like stone age Arabs.[/Quote]I am a yoruba. Is that enough? Go learn about the yorubas and their arab connection. I know you have lost the african in you, so you can't appreciate the value.



[Quote]Even the modern Arabs in Egypt , Syria and Lebanon laugh at your backwardness, behind your back.[/Quote]This is double talk. First am a stone aged arab like man. Suddenly arabs are laughing at me. Do africans laugh at people who sincere in imitating them or they appreciate the effort? Sicko.



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The jews did not experience any progress based on their religion.

The JEWS wipe Muslims with the floor when it comes to anything science or technology, so let us not even go there.[/Quote]They wipe the floor with europeans too. But what I said was about based on religion. Not ethnicity. Tell me what advancement they made based on their religion telling them to pursue such a venture, except kill all the people, animals and cut the trees?



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The christans did not experience any progress based on their religion.

Without Christians, you will never know what the Internet is talk less of using a mobile phone.[/Quote]Is this based on their religion?



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What lies lived by Muslims of the arab world when they say Lord is One God?

yeah God is one, and yet they kill, violation, pillage and lie through their teeth. Please keep your dead religion and false prophet Mo to yourself.

ALLAH and his daughters cannot save you !!![/Quote]I know I need to blindly believe there is 1 God when I count 3 that are separate. I see that blood does not rush to his brain. 3 must be 1.

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Quote from: Sweetnecta on Today at 12:19:50 AM
a muslim woman who marries you has totally lost her deen. she may just a well put on the cross and worship what you worship; your 3 gods which 1 God.
smdh at this level of hypocrisy. leave my case and lets address the obvious. i can bet with u that many muslims are no longer in the old school realm. they belong to the new school which is fashion conscious. i gave u a story of aljazeera staff in Qatar that are dressing like westerners. will they also go to hell fire? i called bhusayor on sunday when i saw how the new nikkai is being done in Nigeria. its exactly the same way the christians conducts theres. the only thing that was different was the mode of prayer. muslims now use bridal train, where black suits with white wedding gown etc. no one belongs to the old school. u sir belong to the old school[/Quote]there is no old school or new school in Islam. the westernized issue is shunned by the muslims in the west who know their deen.
Allah or His Messenger [as] did not say a woman can be exposed just one time; on the occasion of her Nikah and covers up when she goes out or pray. A woman covers, always [thats what is supposed to be], as if ready to pray, except in the presence of those she could "uncover'; brother, etc to a limit but husband all the way.
Again, the bad behaviors of Yoruba or in general african muslims is not to indicate that there is a new school emerging but their is bidah [deviation, as in innovation] emerging, at least. Islam was complete in the time of the Messenger [as]. We do wear appropriate clothing in Islam and it does not have to be arabic or asiatic or even african.
I do wear jeans. and the west i know enough. the old school is the only school that exist, if it is in conformity with what Muhammad [as] brought.

the yorubas and their weird islam. how a believer becomes a disbeliever because of a miracle is beyond me.

didn't tyrannical pharaoh see Moses in his dream, as the destroyer of his kingdom, power?

didn't herold see Jesus in his dream as a king according to the bibles?

a miracle that occurred here in New York, even now is about a muslims in Brooklyn: Just months to this past Ramadhan, he was diagnosed with Lupus. His kidney failed and he was put on dialysis. Jihad is a young man still. barely 42 or so.

Yesterday, I was told that the doctor reported that his kidney is coming back to life.
We in Islam are grateful to Allah for His Subtle Mercy and Care for us.

We are not arrogant and we appreciate each of them.