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funlord:
Tabbaz emmyenzo aka harryson10 is claiming that you have have listed his name as number 278 on your list unjustly. I have asked him to prove his case so we need your input he is ready to Prove his case if possible. I am interested to see how too.


Cc: dominique

you may run a search on all his details, perhaps, you will see the history of his case. I can't remember every single case. I also depend on nairaland database on every single detail on the scammers' list

point to note however is ...

when was his details captured and why did he wait until now before coming out

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modified - below may assist you further

Tabbaz:
thanks bro.

@Harryson10 are you ready to cooperate. 3k is too small na. If after this, you refused and your name appear with red ink, do not blame anyone except your greed and never come here to try to clear your name

conclusion

I will never clear his name. let him go to hell

I warned him never to come here to ask for forgiveness. It's too late

Tabbaz:
So far, no member has supported Lheksban on his issue with TeamLightSkin

We await his action towards sorting out the case with her in private. We don't derive joy in adding people to the popular scammers list

A word is enough...

by the way, what's the update on Lheksban vs TeamLightSkin case

oxsam88:
Can you please look into this? Sleekslender have refused to delete his post since January misleading people with is accusation.

Tabazz
Kabonicinc
Mynd44

I can't remember why he made the post in the first place. can you shed more light on it pls

Sleekender, your attention is needed

So far, no member has supported Lheksban on his issue with TeamLightSkin

We await his action towards sorting out the case with her in private. We don't derive joy in adding people to the popular scammers list

A word is enough...

jangodollar90:
Good morning,your exchanger is here again to buy your payoneer and payPal fund @ sweet rate,come lets deal @jangodollar, u can also contact me on my watsapp number 08137456905

What do you mean by @bolded. Have you ever transacted here before

legendary11:
Good morning everyone!
Pls., is this moniker legit?

cc:
tabbaz
funlord
3rdnest
ibraheem009

No negative history about autocheckng, but I don't know the extent of his legitimacy. Not too conversant with him. It's an old moniker though

HazzanTazzan:
Lol... And u only saw this post and left others...

And you didn't read the posts where I said one of my freelancers receive payment via gift cards from the client he's working for ? If that happens with this my guy, and some other freelancers too how is it 100% from yahoo boys?

U already got the point I was driving at but still twisting my words...

Just Negodu...

Whatever you like, you can believe in your mind... My point is a very high percentage of gift cards are from yahoo boys and this doesn't make the trading of gift cards fraudulent cos those little percentage of people who get it legitimately too have their rights to sell their earning ...

If anyone isn't ready to bear a risk on gift cards, they shld stay away...

@Bolded, you have a valid point

Tabbaz:
I believe you should be able to make your point without insultive remark..

HazzanTazzan:
I'm seriously surprised at your response here too...

If not from yahoo boys, just give me one single source you can think of ...

We might not be dealing with the yahoo boys directly ... But it's def going down a chain from the mugu to the yahoo boy, to his friend who trades online, to a vendor who can sell gift cards, to final loader

This your statement @bolded appears to mean 100% source of gift card is from yahoo boys. I can't read your mind, I can only read your text

HazzanTazzan:
I guess you can't read well... Where did u see me mention 100% are from yahoo boys?

Read well...

I believe you should be able to make your point without insultive remark..

descrisom:
Tabbaz... What's it gan gan ?

Shey buyers don't know that it is risky before ni you dey price
240/$?

What about iTunes? That you load them and apple
disable account. Does that means we should all come
here and be holding the sellers responsible?
Do not talk like you have hatred...

Gift cards is like you are dealing with GnS paypal...

Let them deal with the pains if the deal comes out bad .

They knows where to get original fund if they needed it..

But they eye 240/$ instead of 360/$ and you expect no risk?

That means everybody is a thief. Both direct owner and buyer.
Only middleman is free..

1. Why should I hate gift card traders? they snatched my wife?

2. Knowledgeable people already enlighten us on this thread that gift cards cheap rate does not mean it's from fraudulent sources. We were told that's how it's sold everywhere in the world and what control the price is demand and supply

3. It's good you compare gns PayPal with gift card. We have listed people on scammers list here (e.g Blym4real, one of the oldest members of this thread and this forum) because of charge back gns fund. So, it means gift card sellers are also responsible if amazon block their sold card on client's account with a note that the card is bad/invalid.


Lastly, if more than 90% of a particular fund is from fraudulent sources, it's better to ban it trading (note: I don't know what percentage of gift cards is from fraudulent sources, and that's why I only follow what gift card sellers explained)

mukulu56:
Says who?

The risk of FF is worse.

People should stick to gns and save both buyer and seller headache.

How?

We have been made to believe that fnf is safer and practically on this thread, we only usually have gns charge back

What's next

Whenever I'm called to mediate in a gift card case, sellers always insist that the card card is cheap because it's from yahoo boys blablabla and the buyer should know the risk the moment he was asked to pay less than 300/$.

However, when it becomes regular language and I brought up idea of banning it, they began another campaign that not all cards are from yahoo boys.

To this end, I will suggest that if the card trade should continue, sellers must stop telling us the old story anytime they have a case. They should be 100% responsible for any bad card and other similar cases against them .

Cc
Puskin
Dominique

onatisi:
stopping the adverts and sales of gift cards on this thread will severely affect the marketability and vibrancy of this thread negatively . cash deposit ban sef has taken some shine of the thread already, adding giftcard to the banned list will kill off at least 50% of ads here

OK if that's the case, people selling gift card should stop telling us "we all know gift card is from yahoo boys" and that's why it's cheap anytime they sell bad card to customers here. They must be held responsible for any mess they cause. Let's start from teamlightskin case

entrstephen:
$900 GNS PayPal Available at 300/$.
Call or WhatsApp 09083316128 for swift deal.

I am suspecting you

puskin:
Selling of gift card is not illegal.
Some ppl still pay with gift cards even in the U.S. and some other foreign countries.

OK if that's the case, people selling gift card should stop telling us "we all know gift card is from yahoo boys" and that's why it's cheap anytime they sell bad card to customers here. They must be held responsible for any mess they cause. Let's start from teamlightskin case

Benscolari:
# HYPOCRISY!

Oct 2, 2018 username. kwantinue, you will be caught soon

Point of notice

Mr. A defraud others and bring in the fund in form of gift card.

Mr B break the rule of a country by facilitating currency transfer without a licence

While Mr A is clearly a thief, Mr B. is never and can never be called a thief. He is just a rule breaker.


Our effort on this forum is to minimize to a greater extent fraudulent activities not to take the role of Government

cc
puskin
dominique
mynd44

Public notice

While admin are deliberating on what to do with gift card trading on this forum, I would like to excempted from anything related to gift card ranging from escrow to mediation etc.

Thanks

lizmovic:
Are you a registered bdc or what financial license do you have to be facilitating funds transfers?

this type of response only come from people that are not ready for positive change.

OK. Let's go by your logic. Why are you facilitating fund transfer too despite not having license?

When we attack gift card because you guys get it from yahoo boys, your only way out is to attack other e-currencies.
Why don't you defend gift card instead of attacking other ecurrencies.

Let’s start from there

HazzanTazzan:
I guess we can as well start a protest to Cbn that all banks shld ban western union and moneygram cos they are aiding yahoo boys since we all know that a high percentage of people taking mtcn to the banks are into fraud...

Smh

I'm surprised at this type of comparison.

I'm I telling you that all types of deal in which some people use for fraud should be banned?

You are the one that told us that 100% of agc is from yahoo boys.
I think you need to check your conscience if you know that a commodity is stolen and you still go ahead and purchase it because it's cheap.

Western Union should be banned, so that 95% of legitimate users won't have access to it?

I think you should check what you type again and correct your error.

#BanGiftCard

chisom83:
Beware of Palmer6
He is a thief and will die a miserable death. He may not leave to see 2019, because many forces are working against him, my friend just lost $100 to that thief.

you deserve to be flogged. Didn't you see all the red flags we raised on that moniker?

dominique:
This has been on my mind for a while now. These cards were never meant to be sold in the first place. The ones being sold were either ripped or obtained fraudulently. It's about time we enforced a rule banning it. I'll run it through the admin

please discuss it with the admin. People trading it already admitted that those cards are from fraudulent sources. It's only logical to ban it

puskin:
Hian.
I don't know anything about gift cards.
I cannot say anything concerning how gift cards are gotten or sold.

If gift card sales are prohibited, don't you think you will kiss this thread goodbye?

Regarding the first part, I also do not know much about gift card. I only bought it on three occasions or thereabout until I hear stories that the majority of the cards are from yahoo boys (reason why I said I don't agree that all are from yahoo boys)

Regarding the bolded, I don't trade gift card, why will I say goodbye to the thread if it's banned

segabio66:
This is actually right! But he sent money to me to pay the guy before even confirming payment in his own paypal account. He has much more of the mistakes. And he is trying to free himself of the debts afterall

Truth is bitter, but I think you carry part of the blame by not verifying your source. However, drey22 also carry part of the blame by not notifying you that the fund is on hold.

Let me open this in the public. I sold PayPal as a middle recently and it was charged back but I bear zero responsibility.

Here's the reason

I insisted that my client should check if the fund is cleared (he told me it's cleared without checking his account to be sure) and I told him how risky gns is before sending to him. He accepted my terms and I sent (as a middle man).

Though, the seller happened to be a freelancer and it was a payment from his client which was charged back by PayPal not the sender.

The oyinbo later opted to pay the freelancer via agc and we have gotten the usd equivalent.

Note
I bought from a reliable person and that's why I was able to get back the fund even after charge back

HazzanTazzan:
I'm seriously surprised at your response here too...

If not from yahoo boys, just give me one single source you can think of ...

We might not be dealing with the yahoo boys directly ... But it's def going down a chain from the mugu to the yahoo boy, to his friend who trades online, to a vendor who can sell gift cards, to final loader

If all gift cards are from yahoo boys, then people selling and buying it are aiding fraudulent activities and I will be wary of those people if that's the case.

You also sell gift cards, are you aiding yahoo boys too

However, I don't agree that all gift cards are from yahoo boys.

Puskin kindly look into this. If it's true that all gift cards are from yahoo boys, I think trading it should be banned on this platform. I'm not in support of fraud in any form regardless of the profit

Cc
Dominique
Mynd44

segabio66:
The fund was on hold for a period of 24hours. But nairadesign didnt mention this at all until he paid the guy. Nairadesign and i have been working for more than 3months now. I can actually call us business partners cos he msg me when he need funds.

Drey22 ought to have checked the fund and you are supposed to verify sources too. Also, you should have brought up the case tagging it misunderstanding instead of calling him scammer.

We learn everyday, so both should take note for next time sake.

Nevertheless, I will suggest that both should go back to WhatsApp and try to reach a middle ground on this matter. If still not resolvable, you may come back here for opinions

drey22:
Here is my account of the whole event, on the 4th of December, I requested for funds from the accuser in the person of Abioye Segun, I always withdraw funds and seldomly buy fnf funds(due to the issue of stolen or unclean fnf funds) from him if he assures its from a good source. He brought the said $280 and sent to the receiving PayPal account which belongs to my sister, I sent money for the $280 to him because of trust and all. I was to meet up with a church program on this said day and got very busy till the next day.
I wokeup running late to attend a service and needed funds to pay up an eBay bid I won so I contacted him again for $300 but he was only able to get $283 for me, I chatted up my sis only to get her message that the previous $280 was refunded.
Then I messaged him to ask what's going on, he assured me he will get the funds back and then I was relieved that I will wait to get it back but till now I haven't gotten the refund and the guy he got the funds from is not responding or so, I have offered multiple solutions to how to get this resolved even giving him a higher rates of over 15naira more, also informed him will see what I can do by Monday but its so unfortunate this whole thing got to the point of labelling me a SCAMMER which not only is defamatory but derogatory.

My Questions therefore are?
1. Was I the one that brought the refunded funds?
2. Why tell me you got funds for 323 wen u got it 315?
3. I'm I supposed to pay for the money that was refunded?
4. Won't I come after you to get my $280 that was paid for?
5. How I'm I supposed to know you don't know the person that brought funds to you?
6. Who should we be after?
7. Who did I pay naira to?


So many questions to be asked but I will like the above to be answered first before we proceed

From the screenshot, I noticed you told him to send as fnf and I think fnf can't be refunded. If these are true, I think you have won the case to a greater extent . Unless if he can proof he sent as fnf and that fnf also can be refunded.

bojbest:
Here's the other screenshots and screen shots of the payments.

there are two ways to this type of case.

.1. It's his duty to confirm the payment first before authorising you to pay the seller

2. It's your responsibility to ensure you try as much as possible to supply him from reliable source.

But let's hear drey22 part of the story too

bojbest:
POTENTIAL SCAMMER ALERT.
PLEASE DONT DEAL WITH +234 805 855 657
NAIRA DESIGNS AND CO.


Details coming soon. I have to get pictures

can we get the details. Kindly include all necessary evidences

lheksban:
No... Not at all.
We ve been trading ecodes Ecodes for a long time now and nothing is such has happened before

but she claimed you said the cards are from yahoo boys. don't you think she deserves a refund? you ought to have notified her of your trade term. transparency is important in this type of matter