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God1000:
no one is saying illegal immigrants should not be deported, but why chaining them like subhumans, you don't treat people in such manner, America of all countries should not be doing that


There are diplomatic channels and due process to follow, you can't just bundle people and put them on the plane without informing the host country, it is disrespectful and inhuman

Both Columbia and US are allies, trust me this will backfire on America soon, you Trump supporters are the biggest clowns I've ever seen, you have no clue how the world works, everything is gra gra and firebrigade approach


Imagine south Africa treating our people this way

Your biggest issue is that people were chained?
In all countries, suspects and criminals are chained everyday.
If chaining criminal suspects is the only problem you have with the US, then you really don't have much

goslowgoslow:
Continue barking like a dog 🐶🐕 that you are! I already told you that I have no response for senseless, stupid and idiot comment.... keep barking like a dog e no concern me Mumu think say hin dey make sense! White slave!

Lol, you say you have no response yet you respond with words and image. This one no well oh.

THEDEEPSIGHT:
My point is you have no reason to exclusively say that Israel owns the land.

Please explain, how the Canaanites prove that Israel doesn't exclusively own the land. The Nok were the initial owners of Yoruba land does that mean that the Yorubas are not the exclusive owners of the land?

THEDEEPSIGHT:
Give me the reasons please.
And I dont know why you will call me "Sir" and say I am talking like a kid in one sentence. That was mean of you.

I would still give you your respect even when you get childish.
Now before I give you more reasons, let's conclude on something.
You seem to be saying that Israel has no claim to the land since according to you it belongs to the Canaanites? Is that the point you are making?

THEDEEPSIGHT:
They also were not Jews.
This means the entire claim that Jews own the land is false.

Sir, now you are talking like a kid and here is why.
1. Can you point to the modern people of Canaan.
2. There is no land today that is occupied by its original Aborigines. So you have no foot to stand on if you go the Canaanites way.
3. We can only deal with what history puts in front of us. No one can trace or give an intelligent account of the Canaanites. Were they one nation or many nations? Who are their modern descendants? Or can you give an accurate geography of their land?
4. The Jews on the other hand have clear history on their hands.
5. So even if you find a Canaanites willing to retake the land, he doesn't have enough geographic or historic evidence to win in any court of law. In fact we know more about the Canaanites from reading the bible that from pure history.

In conclusion, you don't even have a leg to fight for the forgotten nation of Canaan.

Now, the Jewish claim to the land goes beyond what happened 2000 years ago. It even spreads to modern times.
Even if the Jewish ancestors did not live in the land 2000 years ago, they have every legal right to the land .
I will give you reasons if you really want to know.

Steep:
🤦‍♂️

Anyway, instead of fighting this logic war with you over a verse, I gave you many more to help you learn and understand. Hope you were able to read them all.
To summarize, the bible labels 3 people or sets of people as God.
1. The Father

2. The Son.
John1. 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

3. The faithful ones
Psalm 82:6 – "I said, ‘You are gods, and all of you are sons of the Most High
John 10:34-35

Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

You are free to doubt my words but will you also doubt the words of Jesus Christ?

Steep:
At bolded you are deluded. How can you say 1+1=2 and at the same time start explaining why 1+1 is not two? Can't you see your confusion?

Now let me explain using your logic.
5+5 is always 10. Unless you are given more information.
For example, 5+5 in base 2, it is not equal to 10.

So when the phrase All things is used, by the author, we assume the author, (in this case the bible) is truthful and we don't make exceptions.
But in another case the same author uses the phase but gives you an exception, it will be foolish to compare it with the case where no exceptions were given.
Have I cleared your doubts?

Image123:
i am here and still here, don't come running into my mentions to teach nonsense about not giving because there's not enough. That way, you should be fine.

Hmm, I am fine, let's not carry last week's discussion into next week,

THEDEEPSIGHT:
They were not Arabs.

Good

Steep:
your logic is inconsistent and contradictory.
According to you "all things" means nothing is excluded.

According to you if a man give everything that he owned it means there is no exception, it means including himself.

see how stupid your logic is, you just contradicted yourself.
Earlier on you said "All things" means without exception. Now you just contradicted yourself.
What are you explaining since according to your dumb logic "all things" means without exceptions. So following your logic the all things in col include the father and christ.
Simple.

You are not making sense but I have time and Patience.
All things clearly means without exception.
Now I for the example you gave, the same writer, (The bible) made an exception. The bible tells you that Jesus is begotten of the Father. If the bible did not make that exception, then one is right to assume that Jesus created the Father.
On the other hand, we shall inherit all things. No exceptions were made by the bible so why are you creating exceptions. If there was an exception, the Lord would have revealed it in the bible and it will not be up to you to add it.
Do you understand now?

THEDEEPSIGHT:
Look, all you need to do is think.
When did Jews becomes the owners of Gaza?

Where was Jericho. Who were the Canaanites, Amalekites, Phillistines?
How did it become that Jews own the land?

Oga, I am too busy to continue with you if you only believe Jews are entitled to everything because they are the chosen people and you are Christian.

You are asking more questions instead of answering. But then, are you saying that the Canaanites, Amalekites, Phillistines are Arab? Because they clearly are not.
Also, I feel you never clicked on the link I sent.

THEDEEPSIGHT:
Thet were trying to steal land and it was thier own goverment that said, stop. U dont know history.

Ok you support forceful relocation when it is carried out by your government right.
Now since you claim to know history, please point to any historian or academic writing that shows the Jews who were forcibly relocated were attempting to steal land as you claim. If you can't, 8t will be clear that your argument is only based on emotions
Meanwhile, below is a link to the history of the Jews in Gaza.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Gaza_City

THEDEEPSIGHT:
Oya na. If there has been a contest over land for 3000 years, why is it your opinion that one side must be exterminated or forecully relocated?

If you put it like that, you are eliminating major details.
Now I don't want anyone to be exterminated but yes I support forceful relocation as a solution to peace. Let's face it, we both support forceful relocation only that we are on opposite sides.
Let me ask you, was it a good thing to you when Israelis were forcibly relocated from Gaza in 2005?
You see, we are not so different.

Image123:
Like you asked yourself and ridiculously think of convincing us that government should not give to the poor but others can. Find something profitable to accomplish, i am here to discuss different issues at my free time.

Keep defending corruption. You can run off now. I guess you have made your point. It was nice talking with you.

THEDEEPSIGHT:
You support mass murder.
You support ethnic cleansing.
You supprt the racial superiority of white people.
U imagine that Israel is Christian. It is not.

You are only interested in one side of a matter which has been fought for almost 2000 years or actually quite more than that.

I don't support mass murder or ethnic cleansing.
I don't support white or Arab superiority.
I know that Israel is only 2% christian.
And I am interested in the whole matter from 2000 years ago till present.
Have I answered all your allegations?

THEDEEPSIGHT:
Are you ok? The point is that as at the time they were, someone like you will agree that one should vacate the land for the other and infact be exterminated or forcefully relocated. You have no shame. You have to sense of justice. You would have agreed that Native Americans be exterminated/ aborigenes eliminated/ black people transported away from South Africa.

I dont think you went to school.

You don't understand the point. Don't make my point for me.
If you have a question, ask don't assume

THEDEEPSIGHT:
LOL. How shallow. So there was no war between Britain and the Zulus. There was no war between Europeans and Native American?
Bros you no go school.

Are they still fighting?

THEDEEPSIGHT:
I never stammer. Your own issue is that you simply support mass murder and extermination of people who are from different tribes or religions. End of.

I don't support mass murder that's why I don't support Hamas.

THEDEEPSIGHT:
Haba. Why not. Are those not Muslim places as well? In fact, maybe you should consider that Trum should send them all to Zanzibar or Indonesia.

You have no knowledge of History.

This sort of suggestion was also made by the Nazis to relocate Jews to Madagascar.

I see your point but then it's not about religion. The people of Jordan Syria and Egypt share common ancestry with the Palestinians. In fact between 1948 and 1967, both Jordan and Egypt assimilated most of the Palestinians.

Image123:
Your comprehension is appaling to say the least, believe what you want, people will continue to get palliatives. No be today.

Before writing, learn to ask yourself what you plan to accomplish with your writeup.

THEDEEPSIGHT:
This is the most silly thing I have ever heard.

1. I guess you agree that blacks in South Africa should have given up the land for whites.
2. I guess you agree that every Native American should have been relocated to Mexico.

Do you ever think at all?

There is no land dispute in south Africa or America either so what is your point.

THEDEEPSIGHT:
Don't you think Zamfara State is better? Or Maiduguri?

Better in what way?

THEDEEPSIGHT:
Dont you think its a good idea that America should also relocate all Igbo people to Swaziland, all Yoruba People to Mali and all Hausa people to Senegal? Will this not solve Nigeria's problems?

Use you head for omnce!

Is Nigeria having a land dispute? How do some of you people think? If two different people are having a land dispute the solution will be for one to give up the land for the other.

THEDEEPSIGHT:
My dear defender of genocide. How are you. I hope you will finally be satisfied once every single Palestinian is forcefully sent elsewhere.

Actually yes, they should be sent to Egypt and Jordan.

THEDEEPSIGHT:
I hope people who support Israel's genocide in Gaza can finally see how ethnic cleansing works.

Your point is that you want those who don't support you or think like you to be ethnically cleansed.
If they ask you to explain the genocide you talk about, you will start stammering

Gotocourt:
I repeat "Isreal is the colonial post of USA "

Repeating nonsense doesn't make it true.

DrAda:
Does Trump want a 3rd World war?

You mean the Hamas will start a 3rd World war? Not very likely

Olatunji1929:
is it not Christian countries that have been supplying another Christian country bombs and ammunition to kill and destroy their home? Its their mess they have to accept them if America can indirectly destroy their homes they should have no excuse housing them

You prefer America support your Hamas brothers? Oga wars have consequences. If the Palestinians stop fighting, there will be peace in the land.

God1000:
Why can't he relocate them to America

He is so dumb. He doesn’t have a clue of the long history of that area and that you don’t just relocate people out of their homeland

The new Adolf Hitler is here to carry out more ethnic cleansing, his black slaves will rejoice

Oga relocating them to Jordan and Egypt will end the war. The people of Egypt and the people of Jordan are their brothers.
Now historically, many people have been relocated from their homeland at one time or the other and the earth did not stop rotating.
In the 50s over 700k Jews were forcibly relocated from Arab countries to Israel. Did the world stop?

Image123:
You've not been able to prove how it kills except to keep whining that money is not enough for other important things. This is a well known fact for centuries, nothing new, money can never be enough. Given people money is not flushed down the drain. The government has been accountable enough with the monies, at least people know the amount and hundreds are involved in the process across states, parties, religions and tribes. It is nobodies' fault that you don't agree with it, your disagreement is not a definition of accountability. 2.48trillion budgetted for the health sector is monstrous compared to the gnat 9.74billion you are whining about, that was the point. It's the highest budget ever for health in Nigeria. You may contribute your savings or earnings to make it enough.

Oga this one week and you are still on this. If you don't believe that many are dying everyday because of the state of our hospitals or that many die because of the state of our roads then no one can help you. Let's leave it at that. Have I proved it to you now?

Dtruthspeaker:
See it.
Now you are complaining about Law and Rules and insalting it because it is has caught you in a wrong.

And now you pretend as if you do not know the purpose of Rules.

Yet you are the same person who expects to speak freely even if you say something very very foolish and stupid such as you have done yet you expecting not to be insalted and called a fool because of the Law/Rule

No 1
Quora
https://www.quora.com ›
What are the basic rules of an 'argument'?
26 Jan 2019 — What are the basic rules of an 'argument'?
Top answer · 4 votes
The first basic rule is: Fight fair! No low blows, no insults or ad hominems. No fallacious

2. THE FREEDOM RULE
PARTIES MUST NOT PREVENT EACH OTHER FROM PUTTING FORWARD STANDPOINTS

See how you prove you deserve to be in hellfire with Satan and Eve?
I'm done.

No, I asked you a question.
According to your rules, I am not allowed to add verses of the bible to support my point.
And you stupidly quoted from Quora. Don't you know that Quora is a forum like Nairaland with people sharing different views?
If your position is that I am only entitled to one bible verse in an argument that it's childish.

Dtruthspeaker:
Rule of argument.
Arguments must be on the point (Stand Point). Anything outside the standpoint is off point and invalid.

So you can not depart from your post.

4) THE STANDPOINT RULE (AkA OFF POINT/GOAL POST SHIFTING RULE.

"A PARTY’S ATTACK ON A STANDPOINT MUST RELATE TO THE STANDPOINT THAT HAS INDEED BEEN ADVANCED BY THE OTHER PARTY (You cannot go off point).

Sir who created these childish rules, you?
So according to in arguments, you are not allowed to make references, quote from other sources that support your argument and give examples to support your argument?
That's funny

Now, what was the base of my argument? Faithful men men will become like God.
And I pointed to a few verses to prove my point. To you, I am not allowed to add any other verse to further prove my point or counter your falsehoods.
Oga, what are you scared of.