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Christianity Etc › Re: One Day, Man Will Become God by tctrills(op): 9:32am On Jan 26, 2025
Steep:
1 Corinthians 3:22 Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are yours;

3:23 And ye are Christ's; and Christ is God's.

Don't you see that order of ownership, the church owns all things but christ owns the church and God owns christ, which automatically means christ and God are excluded from all things owned by the church.


It is not a lazy attempt but a sound exegesis of scripture. You don't just pull up a single verse of scripture and misinterpret it.
Let's see whose logic is flawed.
Supposing according to you the word "all things" is aboslute let's apply your logic on the use of all things in other parts of the bible.

Colossians 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

By using your logic on all things be in absolute sense It would mean christ created God, right?
Now whose logic is now flawed?

That excludes God and christ.
Sons of God become like God but don't become God.
Jesus christ is not like God he is God, see the difference?
So I have already resolved your concerns in my last post but I feel it's a bit unfair to die on one verse when we have the entire bible to learn from. Let's explore other verses to learn more.
Infact, let's start from the very beginning. This is going to be a bit long but I promise, you will get it at last.

Let me present it point by point

1. Man Was Created in God’s Image
Genesis 1:26-27 Then God said, ‘Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness’... So God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.
- This establishes that humans were created with a divine resemblance and a potential to reflect God’s nature.

2. The Fall and the Loss of Divine Likeness Genesis 3:5n(Satan speaking) For God knows that when you eat from it, your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.
The Fall led to separation from God, but the original purpose of man was still to bear God’s likeness.

3. The Promise of Becoming Like God.
In the verse below, Sons of God are refered to as Gods.
Psalm 82:6 I said, ‘You are gods, and all of you are sons of the Most High.
- Jesus later quotes this verse (John 10:34-35)
Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
to affirm that those who receive God’s word are called “gods. Hence we learn that receiving Christ makes us gods/Sons of God

Matthew 5:48 “Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
- Jesus commands believers to strive for divine perfection. Like God, we can be someday perfect.

4. Participation in Divine Nature
-2 Peter 1:4"Through these He has given us His very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature, having escaped the corruption in the world caused by evil desires."*
- This verse explicitly states that believers will partake in God’s divine nature.
The nature of God simply means the characteristics of God. Think about this, you look like God, act like God and have the characteristics of God, what are you? This is basic logic.

5. Becoming One with God
- John 17:21-23 (Jesus praying to the Father) That they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us... I in them, and You in Me, that they may be made perfect in one.”*
- Jesus prays for believers to be united with God in the same way He is with the Father.
The very same things that unite Christ to his Father will unite us to him and his Father.

6. Being Transformed into God’s Likeness
- 1 John 3:2Beloved, now we are children of God; and it has not yet been revealed what we shall be, but we know that when He is revealed, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is.
- This confirms that believers will become like God in the future.

2 Corinthians 3:18 And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lord’s glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory. Like God, our glory will increase from everlasting to everlasting.
This shows an ongoing transformation into divine glory.

7. Final Glorification – Becoming Like Christ Romans 8:29-30 "For those God foreknew He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son… And those He predestined, He also called; those He called, He also justified; those He justified, He also glorified.
- The final stage of salvation is glorification, making believers like Christ.

- Philippians 3:21 “[Jesus] will transform our lowly bodies so that they will be like His glorious body.”
- Believers will have divine, glorified bodies like Christ.
We shall have the same bodies that Christ and our Father has.
If the bible calls us Sons of God, coheirs with Christ, Gods, who are we to doubt that the faithful will become Gods?
Just read your Bible.
Dtruthspeaker and lecowas, this could help you too
Christianity Etc › Re: One Day, Man Will Become God by tctrills(op): 8:32am On Jan 26, 2025
Steep:
1 Corinthians 3:22 Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are yours;

3:23 And ye are Christ's; and Christ is God's.

Don't you see that order of ownership, the church owns all things but christ owns the church and God owns christ, which automatically means christ and God are excluded from all things owned by the church.


It is not a lazy attempt but a sound exegesis of scripture. You don't just pull up a single verse of scripture and misinterpret it.
Let's see whose logic is flawed.
Supposing according to you the word "all things" is aboslute let's apply your logic on the use of all things in other parts of the bible.

Colossians 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

By using your logic on all things be in absolute sense It would mean christ created God, right?
Now whose logic is now flawed?

That excludes God and christ.
Sons of God become like God but don't become God.
Jesus christ is not like God he is God, see the difference?
Again, you have chosen verses that do not support your point in any way.
Let's take a look at your logic.
1 Corinthians 3:22, you claim it excludes God but does it? When it specifically says All Things All things clearly include things that are not mentioned in the verse. All things mean nothing is excluded.
If I say, I give you my car, my house, and all things I owe. Would you say that I excluded my company just because I did not expressly mention it? Is my company not covered by the clause of all things?
Sir, your logic isn't so right.
Sons of God are given all things that their Father has, What does that make them?
Again, your argument using Colossians 1:16 is a bit shallow because the bible teaches that Christ was begotten of the Father so from reading the bible, we know he did not create the Father. But if the Bible did not teach that Christ was begotten of the Father, then one can make the argument you are trying to make. The teaching that Christ was begotten of the Father is a Clause to the verse you mentioned. So, that's not a very good example from you.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Acceptable Form Of Sexual Pleasure by tctrills: 8:11am On Jan 26, 2025
For Feedback:
Email: purityornothing@gmail.com[/quote]I love your post but then, why are you asking for feedback via email when it can be done right here on Nairaland like everyone else?
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Christian Brothers Plait Or Colour Their Hair? by tctrills: 8:00am On Jan 26, 2025
.[/quote]The bible has already taught you the commandments of God. Please let us learn not to add our own commandments to his words.
Christianity Etc › Re: One Day, Man Will Become God by tctrills(op): 7:57am On Jan 26, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
Did you talk about Sardis in your Op? No. As I said, your microscope and your funnel.
Again, you seem to be uncomfortable when I introduce you to more verses that counter your falsehoods. But it's ok, you can't add more water to a cup that is already full.
You will never learn with this attitude.
No wahala have a great day bro.
Christianity Etc › Re: One Day, Man Will Become God by tctrills(op): 7:55am On Jan 26, 2025
lecowas:
I'm sat down with my Father in his throne is different from I'm sitting on my father's throne. But he is sitting at the right hand of the Father.

Read Dan 7, you have a right to your claim but the Father is the Father
Sir the only difference is that He did not sit alone on the throne. Both he and the Father sat on the throne
Let's go back to English class.
Ayo slept with Ngozi on the bed means that both Ayo and Ngozi were on the bed. So if you are ask, did Ayo sleep on the bed, what would be your answer.
So you are wrong. There is little to no difference.
Christ sat on his Father's throne.
And I make no claims, I only teach you what the bible says.
One more verse to help you see the light
1 John 3:2-3

2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

The verse reads, we shall be like him. That's the Father's promise to his sons. He wants them to be like him.
He wants them to inherit everything he has
Christianity Etc › Re: One Day, Man Will Become God by tctrills(op): 7:46am On Jan 26, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
That is your own fallt. You are the one who laid the microscope and funnel you wanted us to use to read your work.
That makes no sense. No work is judged in isolation. It would be foolish of I or anyone to insist that no other verse can or should be added to the discussion. No one learns that way.
For example, you claim that only the Laodicea would be allowed a place on his throne.
But then in verse 5 of the same chapter, speaking to the church in Sardis he says.
He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
So according to your childish logic, only members of the church in Sardis will have white clothes, will have their names in the book of life, and will he confess before the Father and his angels and no one else?
Christianity Etc › Re: One Day, Man Will Become God by tctrills(op): 7:28am On Jan 26, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
Now you prove that you are still the same old twisting lying serpent for I clearly said the Revelation 3:21 which you stated at the beginning and not just Revelations

Man, you are damned!
You are a clown. Your point here is that I am not allowed to quote any other verse that supports the one I earlier quoted right?
Foreign Affairs › Re: Trump Pardons 23 Pro-Life Activists Who Were Prosecuted For Peaceful Protests by tctrills: 7:26am On Jan 26, 2025
goslowgoslow:
I bet I am older than your father! Yes you a white slave! What is there to counter when you did not make a single sense? I don't counter incoherent gibberish! Olodo that doesn't know the details of abortion bill. White man slave!
You are a dirty slave to your village people. Now continue with your life. It's clear you came to insult.
It's ok to learn and listen when you don't understand. You can't always insult what you don't understand. Now run along.
Christianity Etc › Re: One Day, Man Will Become God by tctrills(op): 7:23am On Jan 26, 2025
lecowas:
Jesus doesn't sit on the Father's throne. The Bible clearly states multiple times that Jesus is seated on a separate throne at the right hand of the Father.(Hebrews 1:3, Act 2:33,Mark 16:19,Col 3:1)

Then we also have 24 thrones for the elders and 4 powerful living creatures full of eyes and have 6 wings each, then surrounded by millions of angels.

About inheritance, what we are to inherit is the fullness of power, the 7 spirits of God. God doesn't die.
Now let's read from the bible
Revelation 3:21
"To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne."
Hope you get it now.
Christianity Etc › Re: One Day, Man Will Become God by tctrills(op): 7:20am On Jan 26, 2025
Steep:
Do you even know the meaning of inheritance?
You can can only inherit what is given to you, there is a glory given to Christ and there is glory he already possess as God. It is the gory the Father gave to him that he shares with the church.
John 17:22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
Rev 21:7 is referring to all things God created.

Revelation 21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.


Colossians 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

1 Corinthians 3:21 Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours;

3:22 Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are yours;
3:23 And ye are Christ's; and Christ is God's.


You can see that all things the church inherits exclude God himself hence they don't become God just as christ himself doesn't become God but Christ is already God from eternity he didn't inherit it.
None of the verses you states says that all things exclude God. Please provide the verse that says so and remember, we don't add or subtract from the bible.
The verse you quoted is a very lazy attempt to prove your point. That verse only mentions few things they will inherit before repeating that all things are yours. Going by your flawed logic, since the verse did not expressly say that they inherit God, that means that they will equally not inherit any other item not specifically mentioned in the verse. But then the verse goes on to say, all things are yours. That practically covers everything.
Now, to the meaning of inheritance. Yes, an inheritance is given and God wants to give his children everything he has.
Do you know why we are the sons of God? It's because we can become live him. That is his plan for us.
In the bible we are commanded to be holy as our Father in heaven is. We are again commanded to be perfect as our Father in heaven is. His simple plan is to give us all that he has.
Christianity Etc › Re: One Day, Man Will Become God by tctrills(op): 7:09am On Jan 26, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
Is "they will inherit all things and the sermon on the mountain in Revelations 3:21? No.

So you are going round trying to find a door to use to sneak in.
Yes they will inherit all things is in revelations. Do you even read your Bible?
Christianity Etc › Re: One Day, Man Will Become God by tctrills(op): 1:38am On Jan 26, 2025
Steep:
Co heirs with christ to inherit the glory promised to christ.

Romans 8:17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

The glory promised/given to christ is different from the glory he already had.

John 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
So Co heirs means we get to inherit what he inherits right? What did Christ inherit from the Father?
Did he inherit everything?
Revelation 21:7
"He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
Shall we inherit everything the Father has?
Christianity Etc › Re: One Day, Man Will Become God by tctrills(op): 8:49pm On Jan 25, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
You are just proving the truth of what I said when I said that you are committing one of Eve's crimes (and the angels crimes too).

Clearly you you are still the same guy I know who is full of sins and perversions, therefore you are blinded by sins.

Wike, is clearly on the throne of Tinubu but is Wike not bound to obey Tinubu whether he, Wike agrees with Tinubu or not? Yes

That clearly means Wike is under Tinubu's rule which is what Rev 1:6 is simply saying.

Because you are trying to steal God's throne is why you are thinking it this evil way just like Eve did.

Like Eve you are going to get a punishment no mind can conceive.



Do you see your perversion? Now you have departed from Revelation 3:21 "To the Laodicea" to use other doors to sneak into Revelation 3:21?

Do you not see that you are the thief whom Jesus was talking about who cometh not through the door?
I wish you spend more of your time providing meaningful response that talking about me. Wike is not on Tinubu's throne. Don't let Tinubu catch you.
We don't steal God's throne, he will freely give it to those who overcome
They will inherit all things
So God said they that overcome will inherit all things but to you, only the Laodicea will inherit all things. To you, God has 2 set of commandments, one for Laodicea and the other for the rest of us. Carry om.
According to you, the sermon on the mount was only for those Jesus Christ was speaking to on the mount. It doesn't concern the rest of us.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Trump Bars Transgender Women From U.S. Female Prisons by tctrills: 8:40pm On Jan 25, 2025
Pepperdemisback:
Take your useless Grandiose delution off my mention!
Lol, I offended this baby.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Trump Pardons 23 Pro-Life Activists Who Were Prosecuted For Peaceful Protests by tctrills: 8:38pm On Jan 25, 2025
goslowgoslow:
You have no meaning response bunch of white slaves! Where did I insulted you?
You call me a white slave give your reasons rude child. You never made a single point to counter anything I wrote all you did was insult. You had a chance to point out anything I wrote that is not factual but you must call me names instead.
Anyway you are a slave to your hungry smelling village people.
Christianity Etc › Re: One Day, Man Will Become God by tctrills(op): 5:03pm On Jan 25, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
You can see the bold. And right now there function is to point out you are still within the power and rule of the king and his throne which is the point I was making.
Very wrong use of English. Being on the throne or in the throne doesn't signify being under the rule of the king. It signifies being the king.
Let's look at another verse in that same revelations.
Revelation 1:6
6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
So again you are wrong.



Don't substitute God's Words. He did not Say "inherit" He Said "will I grant".

And grants are given under examination and at the discretion of the Grantor.

And not by inheritance. Inheritance means rights.

You are saying that the bible never called the faithful heirs of God?
Let's read
Romans 8:17 states, "And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ.
Joint-heirs with Christ, Heirs of God. So yes, the bible makes it clear that the Sons of God will inherit his kingdom and Glory.
Like Jesus Christ, those that overcome are given power and glory.
Revelation 2:26
"And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations."
Now read this and be convinced
Revelation 21:7
"He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son."
It says all things. Do you know what it means to inherit all that the Father has?
If God gives you all that he has, are you not a Good?
Do you get it now?
Foreign Affairs › Re: Trump Pardons 23 Pro-Life Activists Who Were Prosecuted For Peaceful Protests by tctrills: 4:55pm On Jan 25, 2025
goslowgoslow:
The problem with people like you is that you lack knowledge! People like you don't know the full details about abortion bills, go and educate yourself! Even if abortion wrong does that make it right for your Trump to sleep with prostitute and sexually assault people?
What you are telling me now is that two wrongs make right! Smh!
This one just came to insult. Oya na, you have made your noise now go and sleep.
Christianity Etc › Re: One Day, Man Will Become God by tctrills(op): 11:09am On Jan 25, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
These are just semantics! Whether In or on or under the bottom line is you are still within the power of the king and his throne which is the point I was making.



Revelations clearly stated "to the people of Laodicea".
No sir, in and under are not semantics.
Semantics is the study of meaning in language, so analyzing two words in semantics could involve looking at their definitions, relationships (synonyms, antonyms, hyponyms, etc.), connotations, or how they function in different contexts.
It is impossible to be in and under at the same time.
You can't be in a car and under the car simultaneously. But you can be on the train and in the train at the same time.
Now to the Laodicea, according to your theology, the people of Laodicea would inherit the throne of God and the rest of us would not. I disagree.
Christianity Etc › Re: One Day, Man Will Become God by tctrills(op): 10:41am On Jan 25, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
In and under the throne are the same thing for in both scenarios you are still within the power of the king and his throne.

And He did not say that everyone would sit on the throne with Him as you say, but this is for the church in Laodicea
In and under do not mean the same thing in any scenario. You can't be in and under at the same time. That's simple grammar. But you can be in and on at the same time.

Again you are saying that the Lord's blessings are for specific people and not all his followers?
I disagree. The blessings in the bible applies to all who keep the commandments.
Romans 2.11
For there is no respect of persons with God.
If it applies to the Laodicea, it applies to all who overcome.
But then let me ask you, from your understanding, the Laodicea who overcome will sit on the throne but the non Laodicea would not be allowed to the throne?
Foreign Affairs › Re: Trump Bars Transgender Women From U.S. Female Prisons by tctrills: 9:12am On Jan 25, 2025
Pepperdemisback:
Bobrisky is just an attention seeker and one of the so-called Content creators.
And he keeps getting your attention. Over 5million of you follow Shim on Instagram
Foreign Affairs › Re: Trump Pardons 23 Pro-Life Activists Who Were Prosecuted For Peaceful Protests by tctrills: 7:05am On Jan 25, 2025
goslowgoslow:
Trump wey dey fucvk prostitutes and sexually assaulted people is the righteous one! You no well at all.
But you that doesn't fvck prostitute is ok with the murder of babies and you are the righteous one.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Trump Could Do Incredible Damage To Mexico And Canada With A Single Signature by tctrills: 8:43pm On Jan 24, 2025
gaby:
Dreams...

If only most people understand how much dependent the US is on Canada's power, lumber, cement, etc, plus the farm produce from Mexico.

MAGAs are already "Finding Out after Fcking Around" in a FAFO way.

They aren't exempted from the effects of the American T-Pains draconian and ill thought out policies.
The products you mentioned are not specialized or hard to get by any means. Cement, lumber and farm products would not ruin the US economy. But if you lose the worlds biggest market that's a different thing.
It is in Canada's and Mexico's best interest to follow instruction. My bet is they would comply. How would you bet?
Christianity Etc › Re: One Day, Man Will Become God by tctrills(op): 4:48pm On Jan 24, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
The difference between a throne and a house is simply that a throne is more than a chair or a house.

A throne is about the power of rule.

Thus, since you are under King Tinubu's power and rule, you are therefore in and under his throne.

Same we are and shall be when The Lord comes to take us away from His enemies and reclaim/reestablish His Rule as Revelations Says.
So you are wrong when you say that you are in Tinubu's throne. But you are correct when you say you are under his throne.
Just as a Christian would tell you that you are under God's throne. But the promise in the bible is that we will sit on his throne not under his throne.
Let's read the verse carefully together.
To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
Christianity Etc › Re: One Day, Man Will Become God by tctrills(op): 12:11pm On Jan 24, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
Are you not sitting in the throne of Tinubu?

Revelations also tells us where we shall be.

You do not real eyes that you have just committed one of female Adam's sins.
Please explain better. I don't understand your point.
Politics › Re: Manufactures Record ₦1.4 Trillion Worth Of Unsold Goods In 2024 Due To Inflation by tctrills: 12:10pm On Jan 24, 2025
Dougad:
You're talking to people that can't see that past their nose. If the economic realities we're facing hasn't yet educated them about the struggles manufacturers face that results in an increase in price, then nothing will.
I tell you. Lots of funny people.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Trump Revokes The Equal Employment Opportunity Act Of 1965 by tctrills: 12:09pm On Jan 24, 2025
Crayfish09:
I honestly thought you guys have stopped spreading this bullsh!t that your bigoted parents brainwashed you with. Hausa kids with 250+Jamb scores have their applications declined just as it happens in the South. That's how one idiot was saying you can get admitted to ABU with 130 in your Jamb.
Oga , wrote about entrance to unity schools and you are here talking about jamb. You are not organized at all.
Calm down, read what I wrote, and stop being emotional.
Christianity Etc › Re: One Day, Man Will Become God by tctrills(op): 7:45am On Jan 24, 2025
Steep:
No man will not become God. Man is created God is not.
There is a difference between Christ messianic throne and the father's throne in heaven.
Jesus is talking about his earthly throne when he comes to seat on the davidic or messianic throne.
Jesus Christ sat on his father's throne and the bible states that we are co heirs with Christ. It's true that man is created but those that believe, he gave them power to become Sons of God. Note that a Son will end up as a grown up like his Father.
Christianity Etc › Re: One Day, Man Will Become God by tctrills(op): 7:41am On Jan 24, 2025
Steep:
The glory that Christians would partake of is the glory given to christ however there is the glory that christ shared with the father for all eternity.
The glory that existed with God for all of eternity is the one he will not share with another, but the one given to christ in time he shared it with the church.
Back with scripture please.
If God shared his throne with Christ and those that overcome will sit on the Thorne and the faithful become heirs of God, what are we missing
Politics › Re: Manufactures Record ₦1.4 Trillion Worth Of Unsold Goods In 2024 Due To Inflation by tctrills: 10:46pm On Jan 23, 2025
saintopus:
When they were making huge profits, no body hear anything.

Now that they are making loses they are crying.

That's business, sometimes you gain, sometimes you lose
What are you even saying? Which year has Nigeria ever been a manufacturers paradise? You are probably focusing on the huge companies on the stock market and forgetting that most manufacturing companies are small and medium-scale and have been struggling since 1960.

Again when they start dropping staff, people like you will be affected.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Trump Revokes The Equal Employment Opportunity Act Of 1965 by tctrills: 10:39pm On Jan 23, 2025
Flangelo12:
Be talikg rubbish.
We know your type.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Trump Revokes The Equal Employment Opportunity Act Of 1965 by tctrills: 10:01pm On Jan 23, 2025
Starzo:
I see ...just like the quota system in Nigeria Where dull and unqualified northerners are admitted and employed over more intelligent and qualified southerners

I understand your point...I also see how racists can use this to their advantage in the US

For me it's a double edged sword
I get you but to be honest, the biggest problem with black America is not racism. It is the failure to take advantage in the world's greatest country

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