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MaxInDHouse:
Because Jesus wants them to have the same mind {John 17:22} Christians apply God's word and pass it round as rules for all their members to have the same line of thought! 2John 10-11 compare to 1Corinthians 1:10

So it's not when you think and coming to social media to tell others when there's nobody having the same line of thought with you!

Well there are people with the same line of thought. Are you happy now. If you were old enough, you would know that no idea is original.

MaxInDHouse:
OK even though God killed them he still love them shey?

Oga you would die one day. Is it because God stopped loving you?

MaxInDHouse:
So who are those practically applying what you're trying to say?

I apply what I say.

MaxInDHouse:
Sinners who were once worshipers of God but backslided nah abi you don forget?

Everyone would due do pointing to the death of some people does not prove that Jesus Christ stopped loving them.

MaxInDHouse:
That's exactly what i'm telling you.

Just because you can quote the Bible doesn't mean you understand what it says it's only when you're able to present the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of what this book says that proves you understand it!

You are not making any sense. You idea of practical application is me telling you my church. If that is how it works, then all it takes is mentioning your church to be correct. Oga it does not work like that. You don't understand the meaning of practical application.

[quote author=MaxInDHouse post=120971047]No wahala oya present where his disciples ate with Pharisees nah! Are you ok? I asked you to present where his disciples refused to eat and you can't. Stop asking a question you can't answer.

Abi Jesus, his disciples and Pharisees all lived in the first century and thank God that after his ascension to heaven Pharisees still exists in their group name.

So how come throughout their activities and ministry there was no record of disciples eating with Pharisees nah? : Another foolish question. How come no record of any of his disciples on horse back so riding horse must be a sin. Stop being ridiculous.
Is the bible a record of culinary experiences?

MaxInDHouse:
Speaking English is like reading textbooks written by westerners so a Nigerian can argue from now till tomorrow claiming he knows better than the Chinese but ask them to practice what they're saying that's when Mr grammar will end up presenting nothing while the Chinese starts making things better making better things!

You are ignorant. Science is not taught only in English. And your example has nothing to do with our discussion.

MaxInDHouse:
Hen nah show where such applies in the story of this God you're talking about if you truly understand nah?

I quoted where He destroyed backsliders and where His son said he will not take pleasure in backsliders but you feel you know better.

Oya quote where what you're saying is practically applicable to this God throughout the Bible nah, if you understand!

Was I quoting from the dictionary before. What does destroying sinner have to do with our topic sir. Everyone must ultimately die. Did Moses not also die? God would finally take all our lives so that has nothing to do with the present topic. At his own time and way, he would take back the live he gave us. This does not mean he stopped loving us. So again, foolish argument.

MaxInDHouse:
I will always boast because you can only quote but you can't present any group practicing what you're saying meaning you don't understand what you're quoting.

Chinese can't speak English fluently like most Nigerians but when it comes to technology they know the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of all what they're saying in Chinese.

That's the truth!

Jesus Christ was never a hypocrite. I understand it is hard for you to accept this but it is true. He asked us to follow him because he would not deceive us. He wouldn't teach something and do another.

MaxInDHouse:
I will always boast because you can only quote but you can't present any group practicing what you're saying meaning you don't understand what you're quoting.

Chinese can't speak English fluently like most Nigerians but when it comes to technology they know the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of all what they're saying in Chinese.

That's the truth!

What does speaking English have to do with tech. Oga are you ok?

MaxInDHouse:
Is that how God acted when Israelites turn to Idolatry by making a golden calf or He destroyed them?

You are not the one to teach God how to act. The story of the lost sheep tells it all. He lost a sheep and went all out looking for it. Leaving the rest. Learn wisdom from that story. The kingdom rejoices when a single lost soul is found.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ go and sleep i be your Papa for application of God's word.

Jesus Christ is a god who can read the minds of his host so even though they had any evil intention Jesus will tell them what they're thinking but his disciples can't do that so he warned them to distance themselves from Pharisees {Matthew 16:6-12} PRACTICAL APPLICATION of what he said: you can never find where Jesus' disciples ate with Pharisees!

As usual you can't answer the question you asked. I was hoping you would show me where the disciples rejected Pharisees food in Act. But then true to JW fashion you started boasting. Comedy.

MaxInDHouse:
WRONG QUOTATION AGAIN!

Did God apply His love the way you're saying when the Israelites turned to idolatry?

Ọmọ humble yourself and we will teach you otherwise you will continue to argue but you won't find the practical application anywhere!

Which one is wrong quotation. Let me quote it word for word to prove your lies.

And he arose, and came to his father. But when he was yet a great way off, his father saw him, and had compassion, and ran, and fell on his neck, and kissed him.
As usual I am right.
The Father did not wait for apologies. Seeing his son was too overwhelming

MaxInDHouse:
You're quoting where Jesus ate with Pharisees oya quote where his disciples did the same in the book of their ACTS nah!

If i say you don't know the PRACTICAL APPLICATION you want to argue!

Stupid question. Oya you quote where the apostles refused to eat with Pharisees in Acts.
You asked a question as if you have any verse to show otherwise.
Stop asking questions that you can't answer when it is turned over to you

MaxInDHouse:
Do those who turned their backs on God's word told you they came back BEGGING to be accepted back but were rejected?

The son was accepted even before he asked for forgiveness. It was the father that ran to him at sighting him. So again you are wrong.
In the story of the lost sheep, it was the shepherd that went searching for the sheep.

MaxInDHouse:
Thank God for the Holy Spirit that a book was written titled "Act Of Apostles" at least Jesus practiced so many things that we can't do because he's a god who can read the minds of his host {Luke 7:39-40} but whatever his first century disciples practiced surely it's meant to be taken as norms for all his disciples!

Now you mean to say that the book of Act of the Apostles was where Christians are taught not to eat with Pharisees. Interesting. What verse.

MaxInDHouse:
Satan quotes God's word nah {Matthew 4:6 compare to Psalms 91:11-12} but what about the practical application of what he quoted?
There was never a time faithful servants of God intentionally endangered their lives to test God {Matthew 4:7 compare to Deuteronomy 6:16} so Jesus can present God's servants who applied what he's saying practically but Satan can't. Why? Because Satan hates anyone obeying God's word so he can't present any practical application of what he's quoting!

Oga stop the distraction. One thing at a time.
Now back to the discussion.

And he said, A certain man had two sons:

12 And the younger of them said to his father, Father, give me the portion of goods that falleth to me. And he divided unto them his living.

13 And not many days after the younger son gathered all together, and took his journey into a far country, and there wasted his substance with riotous living.

14 And when he had spent all, there arose a mighty famine in that land; and he began to be in want.

15 And he went and joined himself to a citizen of that country; and he sent him into his fields to feed swine.

16 And he would fain have filled his belly with the husks that the swine did eat: and no man gave unto him.

17 And when he came to himself, he said, How many hired servants of my father's have bread enough and to spare, and I perish with hunger!

18 I will arise and go to my father, and will say unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and before thee,

19 And am no more worthy to be called thy son: make me as one of thy hired servants.

20 And he arose, and came to his father. But when he was yet a great way off, his father saw him, and had compassion, and ran, and fell on his neck, and kissed him.

21 And the son said unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and in thy sight, and am no more worthy to be called thy son.

22 But the father said to his servants, Bring forth the best robe, and put it on him; and put a ring on his hand, and shoes on his feet:

23 And bring hither the fatted calf, and kill it; and let us eat, and be merry:

24 For this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found. And they began to be merry.

25 Now his elder son was in the field: and as he came and drew nigh to the house, he heard musick and dancing.

26 And he called one of the servants, and asked what these things meant.

27 And he said unto him, Thy brother is come; and thy father hath killed the fatted calf, because he hath received him safe and sound.

28 And he was angry, and would not go in: therefore came his father out, and intreated him.

29 And he answering said to his father, Lo, these many years do I serve thee, neither transgressed I at any time thy commandment: and yet thou never gavest me a kid, that I might make merry with my friends:

30 But as soon as this thy son was come, which hath devoured thy living with harlots, thou hast killed for him the fatted calf.

31 And he said unto him, Son, thou art ever with me, and all that I have is thine.

32 It was meet that we should make merry, and be glad: for this thy brother was dead, and is alive again; and was lost, and is found.

God does not stop loving us even when we turn our backs from him.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ i did not tell you i quoted Jesus directly:

Read John 17:8-9 in any Bible of your choice.

As for eating with Pharisees they were setting a trap for Jesus but he warned his disciples not to try the same that's why you can't find anywhere in the Bible that Jesus' disciples ate with Pharisees!

There are 2 choses here. 1. Jesus is a hypocrite who does not practice what he teaches. 2. You misunderstood the scriptures.
I choose 2. You completely misunderstood the scriptures. Jesus Christ is not a hypocrite.
Jesus Christ never commanded us to do something that he could not do. That is why he is the way. We follow his examples. If he ate with the Pharisees, it means you failed to understand the scriptures.

MaxInDHouse:
That's how the truth works, if you can't present the practical application of what you're quoting then it simply means you don't know what you're saying for real!

All the practical application are in the verses I quoted. Or don't you believe the bible anymore. I no dey qoute Quran 4 you my guy.

MaxInDHouse:
Quote where his disciples did the same!

So you just invented this right? I need to know, is it JW teaching that Jesus could eat with Pharisees but he commanded his followers not to do the same? The way you guys insult Jesus ehh. So basically you are saying Jesus Christ does not practice what he preached.
This is the second time you are saying Jesus Christ did not practice what he preached. I remember you told me that Jesus Christ did not love the world.

MaxInDHouse:
It's a proof that what you understand what you're quoting as you can present it's practical application. Quoting without presenting the practical application simply means you're mocking God's word!

Story. I have noticed that the moment I am beginning to cage you, you start asking for my church. Even though you know I will not tell you, you keep asking to waste time.
So oga I would never tell you my church so no need to ask anymore. Let's go back to topic.

MaxInDHouse:
He honoured their invitation because the time to separate completely from backsliders has not come but he warned his disciples not to do the same that's why you can't see anywhere in the scriptures where his disciples eat with Pharisees. In fact after Jesus' death Pharisees made their intentions known to Jesus' disciples that they'll hunt them if they continue with what their teacher taught them. Act 4:18; 5:28

So the enmity became obvious to everyone!

Lol. Where did the bible teach you this one. The JW bible state that Jesus Christ ate with Pharisees because it was not time to stop eating with them. Loooooooool. You just pull these things from your ass. You can't just accept you are wrong. Loool

achorladey:
At least we know that Jesus knows whenever the Pharisees wants to trap him with his words......

From their own darling Bible....

Then the Pharisees went and conspired together in order to trap him in his speech. 16 So they sent their disciples to him, together with party followers of Herod, saying: “Teacher, we know you are truthful and teach the way of God in truth, and you do not seek anyone’s favor, for you do not look at the outward appearance of people. 17 Tell us, then, what do you think? Is it lawful to pay head tax to Caesar or not?” 18 But Jesus, knowing their wickedness, said: “Why do you put me to the test, hypocrites?


He will running from pillar to post, changing mouth here and there to defend the doctrines and direction of his taskmasters who stated clearly they are not inspired

MaxInDHouse is very entertaining. He always runs from topic. Now he is asking which church I worship with just to change subject. Funny boy

GoodIsGod:
Everyone is a pilgrim and strangers on the earth.

You should know the Bible speaks poetically most times and this is why we have different interpretations of biblical verses from church to church, sect to sect and pastor to pastor. This is why there are lots of heresies preach in the name of Jesus today.

That aside, there is no living soul on earth that God is not aware of their coming into the world. No one.

[b]Jeremiah 1:5 (KJV) Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

So your journey as a human did not start from your mother's womb. It started in the spiritual.
Right in the mind of God.

So when you were born you have existed before then and you are still going to leave that body ( the flesh) when you die. So, poetically you are like a pilgrim on a journey. From the spiritual to the physical and from the physical back to the spiritual.

The spiritual must happen either in two ways. Living with the one who formed you in your mother's womb for ever for accepting Jesus or live with the Devil for ever due to your wrong decision of denying Jesus on earth.

This makes sense but do you have scriptural backing?

MaxInDHouse:
Present your fellow believers practicing what you're quoting!

To what purpose. Would you follow me if I do?

MaxInDHouse:
The Pharisee gave Jesus a trap invitation in a bid to accuse Jesus of not living by his own words, but in reality they hate him with passion!

It does not matter the Pharisees intentions, the most important thing is that Jesus Christ wined and dined with the evil Pharisees by choice. So clearly you misunderstand the scriptures. Jesus Christ was no hypocrite. He did not go behind his disciples to enjoy the best of Pharisee cooking and then preach to them not to do the same. You guys are funny.

Michael547:
I think the issue here is your understanding of the word pilgrim. A pilgrim simply refers to one who journeys in a foreign land. Not necessarily one who returns to where he came from.
Paul was simply saying that the whole world of unrighteous people were likened to a 'foreign land' among whom the people of God were like 'pilgrims' or 'strangers' because their lifestyle was not accepted by the people they lived with, thus came the persecutions they faced.
We can talk on phone for better explanation.

Paul was not saying that the whole world of unrighteous people were likened to a 'foreign land' among whom the people of God were like 'pilgrims' or 'strangers' because their lifestyle was not accepted by the people they lived with, thus came the persecutions they faced.
He was not even talking about the unrighteous world in that verse. Nothing shows he was alluding to the unrighteous world.

Michael547:
The 'earth' In this context can involves different parts of the earth as described in verse 8 and 9 while describing Abrahams lifestyle on earth.
The 'earth' could also refer to the whole world of unrighteous people as described in verse 37 and 38 In which God's people lived as strangers or foreigners among them.

Verse 8 and 9 did not mention the earth so there is no context there. Now verse 38 did not only call them strangers, it also called them pilgrims. There is a difference.
A pilgrim would always return back home after his pilgrimage. Abraham and his wife were not looking to return back to their father's land so it could not have been referring to where they came from.

Michael547:
Ok...let me explain with the context of Hebrews 11 to help you understand the concept of pilgrim mentioned there.
Going through that chapter you would learn that the apostle Paul was talking about people of faith, People like Abraham and so on.
Taking the example of Abraham, Paul pointed out in verse 8 and 9 that Abraham had to leave his own land and live in other people's land. Thereby living a stranger or pilgrim. Paul did not suggest that Abraham came from another Planet to earth in that context.
More to that, in verse 38 after mentioning different men and women of faith, Paul described how they lived on earth. Thereby portraying them as strangers and pilgrims in different part of the earth.

13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.

It clearly states stangers and pilgrims on the earth. Not from a different part of the earth

MaxInDHouse:
Olódo!

Jesus was talking to the woman at the well who is a Samaritan (worshiper) of idols {John 4:22} but forbids his disciples from mingling with Pharisees who worships in the same temple with them. Matthew 16:6-12
So are you saying Jesus was wrong?

Read and learn Luke 15:11-32

Michael547:
Nice question. One thing to note is that the bible describes the human life as temporary because we don't live forever (James 4:14 and Job 14:1,2) So it could be said that we are strangers or pilgrims on earth cause we don't live forever on it. It does not necessarily mean we lived somewhere else before.

Life is not forever has no bearing with being a stranger or pilgrim. How does that even relate?
A pilgrim is someone who comes from another country mostly for a religion purpose.

MaxInDHouse:
Olódo!

Jesus was talking to the woman at the well who is a Samaritan (worshiper) of idols {John 4:22} but forbids his disciples from mingling with Pharisees who worships in the same temple with them. Matthew 16:6-12
So are you saying Jesus was wrong?

Jesus Christ actually ate in the home of Pharisees so clearly you got it all wrong.