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Michael547:
Hmm....that's an interesting question you just asked.
It's important to know that the words 'strangers' and 'pilgrim' in those verses you read has to be understood in context of those scriptures. The bible does not teach that humans lived somewhere before coming to the earth. The bible shows that all human lives started from the earth (Genesis 2:7). You can chat me up on 08167469103 for more explanation.

Sorry I don't trust you enough to call you. So if they are stangers and pilgrims on earth how come their life's began on earth? Was Paul lying?

MaxInDHouse:
If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For the one who says a greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works.
Only a Christian can encourage another in the faith so if someone has turned his back on the truth surely he will teach something else that's why we must ask for the group practicing what the person teaches if he can't present any then he's a worker of LAWLESSNESS just like you. If we used to associate with him before we must stop associating with him!

Oga, this includes Muslim, traditionalist and people of all other faiths. Why reduce it to Christians just to fit your narrative.

MaxInDHouse:
If it's about unbelievers there are two kinds of unbelievers:
© Those who never knew anything about the truth.
© Those who knew the truth and turned their back.
The first are not evil in God's sight because they are ignorant of the truth but the second are evil because they turned away so God's word says we mustn't have anything to do with them! Luke 9:62; 2John 10-11

As for my stand keep deceiving yourself!

The verses you quoted says nothing about any of the 2 kinds of unbelievers as usual, you make things up. You created the 2 kinds of unbelievers theory.
Please where did 2John 10-11 tell you that Jesus was speaking about your formal members?

MaxInDHouse:
Wayward parents must die in the wilderness but their children below twenty years can reach the promised land! Numbers 14:29

Please this verse has no connection with the scriptures from Isaiah. This verse does not show that God's hands are not stretched to the sinners.

MaxInDHouse:
Which woman at the well?
Don't say you can't distinguish between idol worshipers and a backslider o!

The woman by the well is an idol worshiper according to Jesus:

"You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, because salvation begins with the Jews" John 4:22

So she never knew the true God unlike someone who knew and turned his or her back o! John 6:66

Now you are confused. You claimed the bible teaches we should stay away from unbelievers. Now show where the bible says you should stay away from backsliders. Remember the story of the list sheep, lost coin , and prodigal son.
I love the way I get you to change your stand each day.

MaxInDHouse:
Did you even believe in Jesus at all?

There are the records of your faith in Jesus:

https://www.nairaland.com/6771978/man-advise-god-make-him
https://www.nairaland.com/6783378/why-did-bible-end-revelations
https://www.nairaland.com/6849153/how-many-fathers-heaven
https://www.nairaland.com/6909313/god-spirit-what-does-it
https://www.nairaland.com/6945720/what-curse-ada
https://www.nairaland.com/6941774/why-dont-people-die-churches
https://www.nairaland.com/6961839/conceived-jesus-christ-father-holy
https://www.nairaland.com/6952514/gods-firstborn-jesus-christ-isreal
https://www.nairaland.com/7081153/what-function-holy-ghost
https://www.nairaland.com/7093441/did-jesus-die-those-lived
https://www.nairaland.com/7087883/adam-not-cause-mankinds-problems
https://www.nairaland.com/7179228/world-coming-end-it-getting
https://www.nairaland.com/7232550/god-sabbath-it-jesus-christ
https://www.nairaland.com/6970625/does-bible-endorse-human-sacrifice
https://www.nairaland.com/7268407/why-did-god-plant-good
https://www.nairaland.com/7339047/generation-having-less-sex-5han
https://www.nairaland.com/7453647/these-last-days
https://www.nairaland.com/7499141/did-god-really-curse-man
https://www.nairaland.com/7515028/those-never-heard-jesus-what

This shows a faithful believer who reads and learns each day.
And thanks for the good work you do following me

MaxInDHouse:
Matthew 16:6-12; Romans 16:17; 2John 10-11; Revelations 3:16

These verses never said what you are saying. Did you read them before quoting lazy? On the other hand, Jesus associated with the woman in the well, a sinner. Just read your bible to clear your head.

MaxInDHouse:
Wayward parents must die in the wilderness but their children below twenty years can reach the promised land! Numbers 14:29

What does this have to do with anything? Please explain yourself. There is always punishment for sin so what are you suggesting?

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ do you understand what you're quoting?

Because God destroyed many Israelites for the same reason so humble yourself and learn what the concluding part of that verse means.

God will condemn those that turn away from Him but since they're Jacob's descendants the children born to them are covered if they don't follow the footsteps of their wayward parents.

That's the practical application of what you're quoting Sir!

The practical application is exactly what God said, his hands are still open to the sinners. This has nothing to do with wayward parents. Please read the scripture before commenting and stop being lazy. It's just one verse. It had nothing to do with following the footstep of wayward parents.

MaxInDHouse:
The God of Israel said we must stop associating with unbelievers i wonder who knows better between you and God when it comes to love!

He never said so. Jesus Christ associated with many unbelievers. How can you preach without association? Please stop the lies

Dtruthspeaker:
Stop deceiving yourself. Those killed by snakes (copper snake affair) swallowed up by the earth, (kora affair) or killed by the sword golden calf affair were also people who were His Children.

Don't deceive yourself God cuts off anyone who messes up.

Your opinion. Everyone dies even the righteous so as usual, you have no point.

MaxInDHouse:
How do family members ought to treat people who found new faith?

If it's so easy for you to stop loving someone because the person stopped agreeing with you, it means you never loved him in the first place.
You seem to forget that the church is a family. Paul called it the household of faith.

MaxInDHouse:
This is your problem!
You don't really meditate on what you hear or read before jumping to conclusions.
This is a man who has taken good care of his wife and children from infancy till they become adults so his convertion shouldn't make his wife and children abandon him.
If he is one of Jehovah's Witnesses before and suddenly chose to join another religion it's members of our group to whom he is related by faith that must not relate with him again, as for his immediate family they must not involve in anything having to do with worship but he still remains a member of their family.

So learn to know the difference!

The person i relate with due to faith will no longer be my relation once we're no more worshiping the same God, but the person to whom i'm related by blood must remain my relation it's matters having to do with sacred services that we can no longer engage one another!

I know you will still come around so you're welcome anytime my friend!

You are just as bad as the family that abandoned the man. God never abandons his children even in their iniquity.
Isaiah 9:17 KJV: Therefore the Lord shall have no joy in their young men, ... all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.
Even when we turn away from God and he is angry with us, his hand is still stretched out hoping we turn around again.

DennisEche:
They are fools to think Emefiele was acting alone without backing from Buhari

They chose to be fools but now they cant even hide behind their foolishness anymore

Osidazz19:
As of this very minute, your Obi is in support of Buhari and Emefiele's stupid Niara policy but Tinubu is against it. So who's already willing to continue Buhari's policies now? Obi .
That should already answer your question. Tinubu like any other good smart person will defienietly continue the good projects from Buhari and start their own too. As bad as Buhari is, he done so many wonderful projects that others have been promising for decades.

You have a point. Now let's look at some of the projects and policies Tinubu hopes to continue.
Nigeria’s external debt increased by 291 percent while domestic debt grew by 86 percent. The Country’s debt burden is #30.72 trillion, and the APC plans to borrow an additional #8.4 trillion. 133 million Nigerians became multinationally poor. The Country’s unemployment rate rose to 33.3% — highest in over 13 years. The Country’s inflation rate hits a new 17-year high of 20.77%.

Corruption and its practices became all time high. The Country ranks 154 out of 180 countries in Corruption Perceptions Index. Education received no priority. The Academic Staff Union of Universities, ASUU, has gone on cumulative strike days of 584 days in this APC regime. This is the longest since the creation of Nigeria

Nigerians witnessed unimaginable insecurity. Over 600 Local Government Areas have experienced deadly attacks, kidnappings, and violent killings. More than one billion Naira paid in ransom. Our economy went into recession thrice. The Country’s economy moved from being the best in Africa, and third growing economy in the world to become a shattered and unsustainable economy.

[b]Nigerians are now using Naira to purchase Naira so as to be able to buy goods and services in Naira. Nigerians are experiencing unprecedented hardship, pain, hunger, and even losing loved ones over their inability to access their legitimate monies. This is caused by the poorly implemented monetary policies of the APC government. [/b]Nigerians cannot easily purchase premium motor spirit, PMS (Petrol). A litre of petrol now sells for between #250 and #700. Since 2022, motorist now sleep at filling stations. Recall, Over 100 million liters of fuel was imported into the country, were said to be adulterated, containing high methanol quantities. A lot of cars were damaged as a result of the negligence of the APC led regime.

Parachoko:
Lol

So where's the billions of New Notes that have been printed? New notes wey people dey hoard.

On election day, you go shock

Thank God is next week Saturday

You evil prayer would fail.

dat9jaguy:
They are smarter than you. They know that is what you guys want, and they are disappointing you.

Lool. It does not matter what we want. We are just laughing at your hypocrisy. Keep blaming everyone but the one source of all your problems.

Osidazz19:
The problem with this rubbish post is that we are not voting for the best party but the best candidate.
Nigerian parties are just gathering of people interested in winning elections. They are not based on any specific ideology or vision.
Just some months ago Obi was in the PDP. In fact if PDP had given Obi the their ticket, he will be singing praises of them.
4 years from now, if APC offer Obi their ticket and he thinks he has a good chance of winning under APC, he will take it and all his supporters abusing APC will all of a sudden start to say that APC is not that bad.

Vote for the best candidate with the best records of previous achievements, a candidate who can point tothings he has done in the past not one just making promises even though he has not shown any capacity to have done even less than 10 percent of what he's now promising.

I'm an employer of labor, my most important criteria for hiring my workers is your past experience and what you have done from your previous employments. You cannot just promise me that you can do that job when you have not shown me the ability and knowledge of doing something similar in the past. Your resume must speak for you.

Tinubu's resume speaks for him.

On election day, I will vote for Tinubu on APC ticket and vote for a PDP candidate for house of Rep in my area. because I know the man is very capable and smart.
I'm not stuck on any party, I'm voting for the best candidates. End of story.

Be wise, Tinubu openly stated that he would continue with Buhari's policies.
The same Tinubu that endorsed Buhari 2 times. Clearly he believes in the Buhari method. Please let's vote for someone who understands that Buhari's method and government has been a disaster.

They created hundreds of threads blasting Emefiele but now Buhari has openly supported the central bank policy, why aren't they attacking him?
The average APC/Tinubu fanboy is a bloody hypocrite.
They understand how foolish it would look if they begin to attack Buhari.
They have blamed Atiku, Obi's supporters, Emefiele, and the cabal in Aso rock but they know that Buhari must remain blameless.

StagethemTVee:
You love that the President is disobeying the law now. Don’t scream when he refuses to release Kanu at the next hearing date

Stop taking things personal. This is for the good of your country.
I am sure you never complained when the court order was disregarded in Kanu's case so don't pretend you are for the law.

Nade112:
I am a Christian and I need a Christian advice, any other religion isn't allowed.


:' I am a young lady....(Because of certain spiritual issues I went for delivrance at a popular church, it was a two days dry fasting. Ever since I came back from that program I am having clear dreams, including the negative ones. But something happened this morning, I woke up and saw myself lying down with my face upwards and separated my legs like a woman about to give birth, the wrapper I covered myself with was removed. ( I am staying alone, nobody is in the house)
I normally sleep with my side facing one side, i cover myself with wrapper, and I am so consious that anytime I sleep I remain in that position till day break, and if I will change position that night I will know. Not even in that weird sleeping position!! its so shocking to me. What does it mean?

I dont even understand this, I am just scared I have been having lots of weird dreams, something is wrong with me spiritual and ever since I came back from that program it increased and became so obvious and clear. I need help.... Even today....


Please no insults I am already grieving......

Your only problem is fear. Stop believing that you have a problem because you don't.

Napata77:
The Jesus story supposedly occurred 2,000 years ago.

This 'Son of God' came to Earth, preached a new morality for human salvation, performed all sorts of miracles including raising the dead, walking atop a sea, and waking up from the dead himself after being executed. And then ascending up to 'heaven' at a dinner table before friends and onlookers.

So the question is, how come this mighty, pivotal ''Son of God'' bearing the key to human salvation, came to Earth, lived in the so-called middle east, just near north Africa here, yet it was only after 2,000 years that the news of his existence arrived our shores in West Africa?

How far is the middle east, that it should take THE SON OF GOD HIMSELF over 2,000 years PLUS for his message to reach West Africa?

There was caravan trade between West Africa and the middle east. They knew we existed. Certainly GOD knew.

So God just ignored us, and allowed white people and arabs to be enjoying his message of salvation for a whole 2,000 years, and only after those 2,000 years when British thieves decided they wanted to vandalise and loot our land and massacre/enslave us, did He remember us, and introduce us to his 'only son' and his life-saving 'gospel', through them?

It seems really weird.

Perhaps it is a sign the entire Jesus story is a stupid concocted fabrication, since the Creator could never have been so scandalously uncaring and negligent?

Just the same way it took the children of Israel 40 years to get to the promise land, a mere 40 day's journey.

MaxInDHouse:
Do you think the God in question below is the one these churches are worshiping

Funny, the pot calling the kettle black. How can you criticize people better than you?

Don’t forget that Tinubu can pull strings and get the new notes as he wished because of his structures. If it were that easy for him, he won't be complaining.


Yes he has ,but why are some unscrupulous elements like you are crying that Tinubu made a courtesy visit to Buhari ? oga don't twist things we have being laughing and watching you cry


Yes ,especially someone like Buhari that’s the president of about 200 million people . Imagine his influence on electorates?
Any way he has already endorsed your boy so what's your problem?



Jonathan government was corrupt and regressive, one of the best tactics used by Buhari to get power was frugality ,transparency,end to insecurity that was plaguing Goodluck tenure . Most people think he’s best option and he was elected .
Only fools thought Buhari was better than Jonathan and it's clear for all to see now.

In his re election ,he’s a better candidate than Atiku and he was elected .

If this is your definition of better then it's hard to argue with you. Enjoy your better Nigeria. No one could be this bad.

Now about Buhari ,firstly it’s not that Buhari inherited a prosperous nation and drove it down to world poverty capital,also he ended boko haram and ISWAP insurgency which was one of his campaign promises. In as much as Buhari failed in economy ,he passed in northeastern security and national infrastructural development .
Buhari inherited one of the fastest growing economy on earth. He inherited one of the least debt burdened economy.
He just ran us to the ground.
Yes under Jonathan, the north east was on fire but now 4 out of the 6 rigions are on 🔥 fire.




Tinubu major KPI is economic development especially using PPP ,while Atiku is coming with privatization,Obi is coming with frugality and transparency that Buhari came with and led us into recession twice . Kwankwaso well ,he’s maintaining the status quo .

All these are observed in their antecedents or their projections.


A reasonable person know who’s the best . You fell for Buhari, obviously you can't be reasonable enough for us to trust your judgement.

Also using urchin to describe a person who voted for a bad government(in your opinion) shows your lack of knowledge of the word . Don’t embarrass yourself Yes I am sure there are more suitable words to describe people like you but the choice of words does not matter, there is hunger in APC's Nigeria.

MaxInDHouse:
But you can't present the original where their God rejects those turning back shey?
Ọmọ i've heard you!

The following churches are not commanded to hate their formal members
Deeper life
Celestial church
Anglican church
Catholic Church
LDS
Church of Christ
7 days Adventist
Redeem
Winers
Christ Embassy
And a thousand others.
You are the one church that teach hate so stop that nonsense.

[quote author=HydraFeeds post=120931283]Mumu na you fool pass ,so the policy of no old money and also scarcity of fuel won’t affect Tinubu’s chance ?

Oh I am starting to enjoy you already.
The fuel scarcity began many months ago. Tinubu only complained few weeks to his election.
PDP won 2007 election despite serious fuel scarcity at the time
Let's face it, the main problem with Tinubu is the old Naira. So let's not pretend.


People that believe in Buhari organic endorsement won’t affect Tinubu’s chance ? Buhari has already given that to your boy, what more do you want from him.

So in your wisdom ,you’re telling me that pastors and imams don’t have influence on the voters ? Then why’s Obi going to church to campaign? Why is he meeting with people like gani Adam’s that has some followers to discolor his ethnic bigotry ? Why is he meeting with gumi ?
Anyone can be influenced by anyone. So that was never the point

I know it long ago that most people that are in the opposition are daft and that’s why they will bite the dust come feb 25th because they don’t know the game .

The only daft people are the 14 million that voted for the worst government of our time. A government that made us the poverty capital of the world. And the idiots thinking of keeping the same party in power are known as urchins for a reason.

HydraFeeds:
So in your own thinking ,those power brokers have no influence on the electorates ?

Are you the greatest fool that ever liveth ?

You are waiting for Buhari to tell you who to vote for. You are hopeless.
Oga this is a democracy. We employ our leaders.
Buhari has done his best for Tinubu already. He has endorsed him. But the only endorsement that counts would come from you and I with our PVC.
Buhari does not owe Tinubu anything more than that. Stop being hopeless and waiting for Buhari before you think.

MaxInDHouse:
“No man who has put his hand to a plow and looks at the things behind is well-suited for the Kingdom of God.” Luke 9:62

“But my righteous one will live by reason of faith,” and “if he shrinks back, I have no pleasure in him.” Hebrews 10:38

fake plow

HydraFeeds:
Mumu nor Dey think before they talk .

The debt was that he was a kingmaker and those he made kings should pay the debt by making him king too .

If you invest shey you nor go get profit ?

Oga it's up to you and me to choose our king. Stop being used. Stop being a fool.

MaxInDHouse:
Thanks for your time!

So please don't ever bring up this peace and love argument because JW actually hate their formal members and treat them as shit.

HydraFeeds:
People like you don’t like paying debt .

Oga Nigeria is no one's own. Dem dey use you pay debt. Can you imagine.
Buhari has already asked his supporters to vote for Tinubu. Buhari has been to the rallies. What more do you want Buhari to do for him.

MaxInDHouse:
“No man who has put his hand to a plow and looks at the things behind is well-suited for the Kingdom of God.” Luke 9:62

“But my righteous one will live by reason of faith,” and “if he shrinks back, I have no pleasure in him.” Hebrews 10:38

Yes but if your doctrine is false, please leave that plow. The false plow.