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MaxInDHouse:
OK that has been your headache ever since!

No wonder you kept coming back instead going to "catch some fun" as you often say!

Well if it's about the scriptures i was never wrong because you don't know what you're quoting and you don't want to know.

Hell simply means Grave so all people whether good or evil goes there! Ecclesiastes 9:10

Loool. See fear. I am enjoying your fear.So what about outer darkness?

MaxInDHouse:
Funny atheist!

Can you quote where the Bible said "the evil will be cast into hell"

if I do, would you finally agree you are wrong?

MaxInDHouse:
Believe whoever you like at least you agree that only those believing in Jesus will be saved while others perish shey?
I think that's enough for you!

All would be resurrected and the evil would be cast into hell where there would be weeping and gnashing of teeth. This is what the bible teaches. Stop teaching another doctrine.

MaxInDHouse:
John 5:28

"Do not be amazed at this, for the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice" NWT

In other versions it's rendered this way:

"Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice" Holy Bible

Jews don't bury wicked people in fact they do throw their copses into the burning furnace behind Jerusalem called "Gehenna" their belief is that since such a person didn't live a godly life he or she has nothing to be remembered for.

So when Jesus said those in the memorial tombs (in their graves) the Jews knew that he was referring to people who lived godly lives worthy to be remembered.

Job said:

O that in the Grave you would conceal me, That you would hide me until your anger passes by, That you would set a time limit for me and remember me! If a man dies, can he live again? I will wait all the days of my compulsory service Until my relief comes. You will call, and I will answer you. You will long for the work of your hands! Job 14:13-15

He was sure that he will be REMEMBERED because he lived a righteous life but as for evil people there's no reason to remember them! Psalms 9:17

Ọmọ come and let's TEACH you this gra gra won't lead you anywhere. You're just worried yet you have no reason to be if only you're humble like me. I was a Muslim when JWs came to me but after discovering they know better i humbled myself to take in accurate knowledge of truth!

You are not making any sense. So you mean that only those buried in a grave would resurrect right? I asked you, who do we believe, you or Jesus Christ?

MaxInDHouse:
You can never ever understand Jesus because he spoke a lot in parables so if you're not ready to learn from his real disciples you will read and read and read his words until you become totally confused! Matthew 13:13, 34

Jesus said:

It will be more tolerable in the day of judgement for Sodom and Gomorrah than for some people.
Those destroyed in Sodom and Gomorrah has already been judged so on judgment day they will not be called to mind but those Jesus said these words to will face worse condition than the inhabitants of Sodom which means none of them will have a chance to be alive when Christ begin ruling for 1,000 years for your information the 1,000 years of Jesus is the judgment day.
Many misinformed Churchgoers thought they will queue before a court to be judged but let me leave you with whatever you want to believe at least you agree that many will be destroyed while only those believing in Jesus will be preserved alive. That's enough for now!

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Oga, Jesus Christ did not always speak in parables. In fact, in the verse I quoted he was not speaking in parables so stop pretending.

MaxInDHouse:
No wahala as you don't want to learn but this is my own thread so i'll open up for the benefit of those who wants to learn.

God said those who are WICKED will not be remembered so they will routine in their graves! Psalms 9:17

Where people like you get confused is Act 24:15 when Paul said there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and unrighteous but instead of you people to ask what about God's word at Psalms 9:17 you just wrap it all up as what the book says so it has no meaning to you.

The RIGHTEOUS are all faithful people from the time of Abel till John the baptist and Jesus' disciples who aren't born again Christians all will be brought back to life on planet earth! Job 14:13-15

The UNRIGHTEOUS are people who lived by conscience as they had no opportunity of knowing the true God but their conscience bears witness that they're willing to live a righteous life! Romans 2:14-16

But as for deliberate evildoers they will never be called back to life! Psalms 9:17

Please advise me, do I learn from you or from the words of Christ?
John 5.28

MaxInDHouse:
It's because you're not ready to learn but when the scriptures say those believing will not perish what do you think of those who do not believe?

For your information not all the dead will be resurrected!

Oga I believe the bible not you. It says all would be resurrected.

dustmalik:
You still don't get it, do you? Any online poll you conduct today, Obi will always win, no matter whose timeline you conduct it.

If you recall correctly, in 2019, Buhari lost all polls, online and offline. In fact, when Buhari was pit against a Stone, the stone won with landslide.

Come Saturday, when votes start to trickle in from all over the country, reality is going to set in.

I expect to be insulted, as is now usual.

Stop lying, Buhari did not lose all the polls in 2019.

MaxInDHouse:
Do you believe John 3:16 or you're just "catching fun"?

Because that verse is clearly saying some people will be destroyed while others are preserved so if you feel JWs aren't those to be preserved as we claim no wahala!

John 3.16 has nothing to do with war. It had nothing to do with the Israelite wars or any of the wars you support. Again what does it mean when the scriptures says"shall not perish"? Because the scriptures make it clear that all would be resurrected.

MaxInDHouse:
“For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life" John 3:16

You don't have to be scared if you're sure that you belong to the group Jesus is coming to fight on their behalf. He has given his clear orders and only those trusting in him will be preserved when he comes with his armies!

We know John 3.16 it's not the point. The point is that you guys believe in war but you only believe in killing non JW.

MaxInDHouse:
Summary!

God chose a nation (Israel) as His special property {Exodus 19:5} to show what will happen in the future.
Spiritual Jews (144,000) Born Again Christians will be taken to heaven {John 14:1-4} and there they will become immortal spirit beings {Luke 20:34-35} Jesus will lead them back to planet earth to destroy all faithless people opposing pure worship! Luke 19:27

So that's what the wars recorded in the history of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES foreshadows not that humans will continue to kill fellow humans for fun Mr Fun-Catcher!

So the Jehovah witness actually believe in war from your summary. So all their story of love and peace only applies to their members. Hmmm. So can this be the last time you would tell me you are peace loving because you all look forward to the destruction of all your nonmembers.

MaxInDHouse:
It's obvious you don't want the truth God will not support the Israelites if they don't consult Him before going to war because they must not kill their fellow believers but if you feel like killing you fellow believers that's your cup of coffee!

Oga, again let's summarize. You are saying that JW are allowed to kill nonmembers in war right?

MaxInDHouse:
Your problem is faithlessness.
Had it been you have faith in God you will know that it's only those who aren't in support of God's will that were killed in times past!

Oga, the children of Israel also lost soldiers in many of their wars even when God was with them. Stop saying rubbish. Please start reading your bible.
Also, many JW members died in both the first and second world wars. God did not fight for them and they were not protected as you claim. It was the allied powers that saved their asses.

MaxInDHouse:
The purpose of war in the Bible supported by God should be noted!

God destroyed enemies of pure worship but told Israelites to be His Witnesses while He does the judging but most of those nations taught by engaging the Israelites in battle directly they can win so God told the Israelites to face them with weapons. The point here is that God wasn't supporting Israelites just for them to win battles but to protect pure worship and those involved.
Today Jesus' first century disciples have copied what he taught in a book called Bible and this book has gone round the world so it makes no sense fighting and killing anyone who believes in God because the purpose of war back then wasn't just to support one side against another to to preserve pure worship and those involved.

You seem confused. You claim that God said zero wars now you say God supported wars.

MaxInDHouse:
So when God said He will fight against enemies of truth you think He actually left His heavenly throne to come and fight shey?

Now you're running out of sense.

Ọmọ when Putin is fighting Ukraine he's not the one carrying the weapons but those doing so are following his orders.

A peace of advice for you:
Stop going to the politics section because that's the only reason why you won't think twice before killing your neighbour or fellow believer.
Most people nursing HBP, Hypertension and Heart attack are politically oriented people!

Exactly my point. If you knew God did not leave his throne and the children of Israel had to do most of the physical fighting themselves then why did you bring that up? What is your purpose? Or are you just trying to distract us?

MaxInDHouse:
These is what the God who sent Jesus told His first chosen nation to prove that He doesn't need their efforts to destroy the enemies of pure worship:

Jehovah himself will fight for you, and you will keep silent.” Exodus 14:14

Jehovah your God will go before you and will fight for you, just as he did in Egypt before your very eyes! Deuteronomy 30:1

for Jehovah your God is marching with you to fight for you against your enemies and to save you.’ Deuteronomy 20:4

And the dread of God came upon all the kingdoms of the lands when they heard that Jehovah had fought against the enemies of Israel 2 Chronicles 20:29

So He wasn't just supporting them or approving wars rather it was to protect pure worship and those involved! 2Kings 19:35

If you now think since He supported wars back then He has no right to stop His worshipers from killing their fellow believers then you need to go and see a psychiatrist fast!

Oga, in the war in heaven God did not do the fighting, it was Angel Michael that led the fighting

MaxInDHouse:
Funny atheist!

So when a king is installed and there are enemies that will make his reign unsuccessful he won't drive them away shey? Luke 19:27

Ọmọ stop deceiving yourself!

Oga does your story make sense to you. I commanded you to stop war but I still endorse war. My Jesus Christ is not a hypocrite. I am not sure about yours.

MaxInDHouse:
The inhabitants of heaven are not humans that's why Jesus never raised a weapon against his physical enemies on earth.
He said to Pilate:

“My Kingdom is no part of this world. If my Kingdom were part of this world, my attendants would have fought that I should not be handed over to the Jews. But as it is, my Kingdom is not from this source.” John 18:36

His attendants aren't humans and they know that the war they're to fight isn't against flesh and blood! Ephesians 6:12

So in heaven where they fought no blood no life no body was crushed because it was a spiritual battle and those involved aren't flesh and blood!

It does not matter if they are humans. According to JW Jesus Christ ban wars only for him to endorse a war in his kingdom under his nose. This is the most stupid fable ever told.

So all those going to wars now are disobeying the last order from our commander Jesus Christ that's why they won't fit in God's Kingdom where we must forgive and let go of injuries instead of nursing it until it will turn to killings here and there!
If the inhabitants of heaven did not disobey him in 1914 as you claim, why do you think we on earth are disobeying him? Don't you see how foolish the teaching is?

MaxInDHouse:
I think it's what Jesus ended in heaven what he's coming to end on planet earth which is BADNESS and that's why he asked us to pray for God's will to be done on earth as it is in heaven because after Armageddon badness will end on this planet!

So you know that the promises of no more war and peace on earth is a future thing. If God felt war was a sin, there would not have been the war in heaven. It seems we are beginning to get it right.

MaxInDHouse:
Naaaaaaaaaaaaa.
It was the day Jesus walked the planet preaching and teaching about God's Kingdom that believers in the God of Abraham stopped thinking about anyone as enemies to be killed.

God's word was revealing things gradually until it's completion in the Bible book Revelations.
So if you read about God's people going to wars it was before Jesus walked this planet but afterwards no true believer in the God of Abraham will pick up weapons against anyone again!

So Jesus preached end to war on earth but it took another 1914 years before heaven could compile. Oga your war doctrine makes no sense.
Remember, it's thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven but in the JW case the will was on earth before heaven. Very up side down religion. Don't you think so?

MaxInDHouse:
See self judgment!
So of all Nairalanders Maximus has been your doctor when it comes to the treatment of HBP yet you're always arguing against the same person!
Ọmọ you're condemning yourself now!

As for WARS i've schooled you enough so if you want to kill your fellow believers forget about the Bible because it was inspired of God and beneficial for setting matters straight among believers {2Timothy 3:16} that's what makes JWs fully competent and completely equipped {2Timothy 3:17} to be a real Christian family who will never support to raise weapons against anyone! Isaiah 2:2-4

Yes, you have been my go to for laughs. So congratulations.
As for wars we both agree that God has never been against wars. The only difference between us is that you convinced yourself that God changed his war policy after 1914.

MaxInDHouse:
So politicians and military men in Redeem will not kill their fellow believers in another country or use thugs to deal with their fellow believers who are of the opposition party?

Why you wan kill yourself nah?

This is Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses.

If you want to get HBP continue responding to my post sebi you said you're catching fun so why crying all over the place for honesty during fun times nah?

A be your Papa for intelligence i'm not like you that puts up scores of threads asking questions and giving no tangible answer to your questions, when i ask a question i provide the answer immediately so whoever disagree can go for answers elsewhere even Jesus of Nazareth never satisfied everybody in his time when responding to questions.

Majority thought he was mad! Mark 3:21; John 10:20
Many strongly believe he was lying! John 8:33
Only a few believe him and God is pleased with the few! John 1:11-12

So my guy it's not by force if you feel what i'm saying is not true go and find your truth elsewhere but thinking you can challenge a JW in Bible debate i will always make you the scapegoat!

Wars are no sin. No scriptures claims that war is a sin. As for high BP, I actually use you post to lower my BP.
You are a beautiful distraction.

[quote author=MaxInDHouse post=121089133]Redeem where Adeboye said those eying his position are going diabolical to remove him because of the riches involved shey?

So can you tell this forum what the millions in other groups have done regarding Jesus' order to:
Preach and teach from house to house? Matthew 10:11-13
Love their enemies instead of killing them? Matthew 5:43-48
Have the same line of thought? John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10
Globally known as the most peaceful group? Matthew 10:16
Make active disciples who will also go on preaching and teaching in all their neighbourhood? Matthew 28:19-20

Ọmọ stop deceiving yourself! [/quote
What are you talking about? Did redeem get their members by sleeping. They clearly are far better at preaching than JW.
Redeem as a group does not kill anyone so what are you talking about.
No one every gave you the title of the most peaceful group

MaxInDHouse:
Good you remember that they were many Apostles subjecting to the same line of thought as one body.
Ọmọ present something of that nature today as the group practicing what Jesus taught.
Because i'm subjecting myself along with millions across the globe to a body of elders so that we have the same line of thought {1Corinthians 1:10} as Jesus prayed for {John 17:22} because in the absence of that you're the arrogant liar here o!

I understand you are millions in your group but that is no reason not to accept the teachings of Christ Apostles. You are not the only group with millions of members. If you are looking for millions, go to Redeem. And as of being a liar, even you admitted that you are a liar so no one is contesting your crown with you bro

MaxInDHouse:
You can define humility anyhow you want but one thing is sure:
If you can't present any group of people with whom you've subjected yourself to the same rules and code of conduct ọmọ you're really an arrogant person.

When Jesus said we should search for the lost sheep of the house of Israel {Matthew 10:6} he was actually referring to humble humans who have subjected themselves but to the wrong group so we search for them and bring them to God's organization.
If i'm not humble do you think i will subject myself to the teaching of any group?
Well just like you all religions are scamming people so they don't worth subjecting to.

We are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

Oga forget my definition of humility. You are claiming to know better than the Apostles of Jesus Christ. That is called foolish arrogance. So instead of misrepresenting the words of Christ start by humbling yourself

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ humble yourself and learn!

All humans aren't qualified to be called God's children after the event in the garden of Eden {Romans 3:23} but when someone humbles himself to learn what God's righteousness means God takes him in as His child {Zephaniah 2:2-3} as for arrogant people like you who can't subject themselves to any form of rules binding on others you can't cross the line! Luke 16:26

When you talk of humility, that's what you lack. An Apostle of God teaches that we are all offsprings of God but some guy named MaxInDHouse says Paul is wrong. Do you even know the meaning of humility? Stop asking me to be humble because you have no idea of the meaning of that word.

MaxInDHouse:
You're the daft one here because God never birthed anyone so the word offspring in God's word in relation to God or Satan simply means the attitude or qualities of the person you reflect as a person.
So those who reflect God's qualities are called His offspring and those that reflects the traits of Satan are regarded as his offsprings.
That's why Jesus keeps emphasizing on the qualities he took after his father the only true God!

I choose to believe Paul over you. Reflection of ones traits does not make you his offspring.
To prove you are lying as usual, the people Paul was speaking to were not even followers of Christ yet he acknowledged that we all are offsprings of God.
The people of Athens did not reflect God's traits yet they were offsprings of God. To lie no dey tire you?

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ offspring and children means the same thing stop lying so the Bible called humans offsprings of both God and Satan!

God never birthed anyone he created us all so only those ready to do His will are called His children (offspring) {John 1:11-12} as for those that turned away from His righteous decrees He denounce them! Deuteronomy 32:5

Stop pretending to be daft. If you adopt a child he is not you offspring.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ forget all these STORY and quote what is found written in the Bible book of Matthew 3:7 & 23:33

"When e see many Pharisee people and Sadducee people wey de come where e de baptize people, e come ask them say: “Una wey be children of vipers, who warn una say make una run comot from the punishment wey God de bring?" Matthew 3:7

Your dodging styles won't work now!

See how criminal you are? So you knew that the bible called certain people children of vipers so why lie? Why did you claim that the bible called them offsprings of vipers.
Now you would pretend you don't know the difference so let me tell you. One could be a child by adoption but an offspring is a child you reproduce. There is a big difference. So the bible never called some people the offspring of vipers as you claimed. Stop the dishonesty.

Helpfromabove1:
So we the court come and distribute the materials then


Or u expect inec to buy such volume of vehicles only to be used once in four years abi

Or they should use luxurious bus or hummer bus


Inec have already explained that he is dealing with bus owners and not Mc oluomo what else do u want

For example if inec need auto part for this election he as no option than to deal with Ladipo and Alaba but in this case he need bus he will have to deal with bus owner either Igbo or Yoruba bus owners in the state

Go and tell the courts

femisplash:
With due respect, Chinua Achebe died a tribalist, his book, there was a country, gave a one-sided account and opened up dead wounds.

You are not a wise man. His book gave his account. But it was a pure work of academy with correct references.
Again if you feel that writing about a war one experienced first hand is tribalism, does that make everyone who had written about the war a tribalist.
Finally we both know you never read the book.