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Christianity Etc › Re: If God Has A Son.... by tctrills: 11:03pm On Jan 21, 2023
Maynman:
And so is hebrew different in “many places”?
You are the Hebrew pro which is the correct one?
Christianity Etc › Re: If God Has A Son.... by tctrills: 11:01pm On Jan 21, 2023
Maynman:
Your screenshot said this “ כִּי-ילד ילד-לָנוּ כֵּן נִתַּן-לָנוּ”
This is what you first posted.
כִּי־זֶרַע יְשַׁלַּח יְהוָה לָכֶם נְאֻם־יְהוָה וְרֹעֶה יִקָּח עַל־שְׁכֶם
I quoted from many places, which don't you agree with?
Christianity Etc › Re: If God Has A Son.... by tctrills: 10:55pm On Jan 21, 2023
Maynman:
This is what you first posted.
כִּי־זֶרַע יְשַׁלַּח יְהוָה לָכֶם נְאֻם־יְהוָה וְרֹעֶה יִקָּח עַל־שְׁכֶם

Doesn’t correlate.
Explain. What is missing.
Christianity Etc › Re: If God Has A Son.... by tctrills: 10:53pm On Jan 21, 2023
Maynman:
Screenshot it.

The link i sent was for the Hebrew verses. Who is an almah?
Oga just explain don't ask questions. I sent you the portion I needed you to explain. I can send it again in case you are confused.
Christianity Etc › Re: If God Has A Son.... by tctrills: 10:51pm On Jan 21, 2023
Maynman:
Okay then screenshot it and show me this… “Again, I don't speak Hebrew so I researched. כִּי־הִנֵּה הַנַּעַר הָרָה וְנִקְרָא עֶלְיוֹ שֵׁם עִמָּנוּאֵל כִּי־אֶעֱנֶה יְהוָה עַל־אַדְמַת הַזֹּאֲתָ לֹא־בַחֲמַת־עַם וְלֹא־בַכַּף חָרָב”

Christianity Etc › Re: If God Has A Son.... by tctrills: 10:49pm On Jan 21, 2023
Maynman:
Send me the link to this site where you got this “ Again, I don't speak Hebrew so I researched. כִּי־הִנֵּה הַנַּעַר הָרָה וְנִקְרָא עֶלְיוֹ שֵׁם עִמָּנוּאֵל כִּי־אֶעֱנֶה יְהוָה עַל־אַדְמַת הַזֹּאֲתָ לֹא־בַחֲמַת־עַם וְלֹא־בַכַּף חָרָב”
Oga I would screenshot the first one the it would be your turn to explain why your link believes in the birth of Jesus Christ and why your link concludes that the quoted verse is a prophecy of Him?
Then we can discuss this.
Christianity Etc › Re: If God Has A Son.... by tctrills: 10:46pm On Jan 21, 2023
Maynman:
Did your site create hebrew language?
Did you open the links? Everyone of them sited the Hebrew language grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: If God Has A Son.... by tctrills: 10:45pm On Jan 21, 2023
Maynman:
Yes screenshot it and show me this… “Again, I don't speak Hebrew so I researched. כִּי־הִנֵּה הַנַּעַר הָרָה וְנִקְרָא עֶלְיוֹ שֵׁם עִמָּנוּאֵל כִּי־אֶעֱנֶה יְהוָה עַל־אַדְמַת הַזֹּאֲתָ לֹא־בַחֲמַת־עַם וְלֹא־בַכַּף חָרָב”
Oga, one thing at a time.
I would screenshot then you would explain why your site does not agree with you story.
Agreed?
Christianity Etc › Re: If God Has A Son.... by tctrills: 10:43pm On Jan 21, 2023
Maynman:
What’s yulad in hebrew?
Oga, do you agree with my sites or not? If no, show me your links to prove me wrong. I am not a Hebrew scholar but clearly, you are not either.
Christianity Etc › Re: If God Has A Son.... by tctrills: 10:40pm On Jan 21, 2023
Maynman:
No hebrew writings mentioned there.
You did ont open it. Right from the very top, we have Hebrew. If you lie again I would have to screenshot.
Christianity Etc › Re: If God Has A Son.... by tctrills: 10:39pm On Jan 21, 2023
Maynman:
the operative word here in Hebrew is Yulad, “was born” from the Hebrew grammatical construct of Binyan Pu’al. The English translations that dubiously say “is born” are therefore incorrect. Being that this refers to someone who “was born” and already living during Isaiah’s time, that is 700 years before Jesus! So in no way, can this verse refer to Jesus. But rather, it refers to King Chizkiyahu (Hezekiah), a contemporary of Isaiah’s.
Oga proof proof proof. Why should anyone believe you when the site you posted was a confirmation of the birth of Christ and the fulfillment of prophecy.
Christianity Etc › Re: If God Has A Son.... by tctrills: 10:35pm On Jan 21, 2023
Maynman:
Yulad means “was born.”
It was not the only place the hebrew word was mentioned in the tanakh.
Explain better.
Christianity Etc › Re: If God Has A Son.... by tctrills: 10:35pm On Jan 21, 2023
Maynman:
What did you think i was asking before? Bwahahahah
Much more https://saintebible.com/text/isaiah/9-6.htm
Christianity Etc › Re: If God Has A Son.... by tctrills: 10:34pm On Jan 21, 2023
Maynman:
What did you think i was asking before? Bwahahahah
I have more https://www.hebrew4christians.com/Meditations/Yeled/yeled.html
Christianity Etc › Re: If God Has A Son.... by tctrills: 10:32pm On Jan 21, 2023
Maynman:
Point it out
Good, Your post actually proves that Jesus is Emmanuel. Here are extracts from your post.

Like Isaiah's wife, Yeshua's mother was a prophetess as well, in the sense that she too declared God's message. Luke 1:46-55 contains Miryam's soaring words of praise for God's loyalty to his covenant promises to Abraham and his children, to her fellow Jews.

Since Miryam was a prophetess (like Isaiah's wife), her Son was also a prophetic sign to Israel.

Neither she nor anyone else in the NT ever called him Immanu El ("with us is God"wink. His angel-given name was Yeshua ("the LORD saves"wink — a symbolic name describing what his presence on earth entailed for God's people: "he will save his people from their sins" (Matt 1:21). (See Shem Yeshua Mashiach: Hebrew Roots of "Jesus Christ".)

We need to remember the obvious point about Miryam's story (Matthew 1, Luke 1).

She was literally an Almah — an unmarried young woman — within whom God created, by his Spirit, the male embryo who grew to become her baby named Yeshua. She was an unmarried Hebrew virgin who became pregnant, not by her husband-to-be, Joseph.

When the angel told Miryam she would give birth to "the Son of the Most High" and son of "his father David" (Luke 1:32), her response proves she knew what the announcement meant: "How can this be, since I am a virgin?" (v. 34).

In other words, she fulfilled both the prophetic Hebrew word that an almah would bear a son, as well as the Greek Bible prophecy about a boy who would be birthed by a parthenos.

Representatively, Yeshua's mother would be Virgin Israel, the faithful, unsullied bride of God, who would bear a son for her Lord. (See the links between Israel and Miryam: Betulat Yisrael: Virgin Mother of Messiah.)
Christianity Etc › Re: If God Has A Son.... by tctrills: 10:28pm On Jan 21, 2023
Maynman:
Okay.
I’ve been been able to open the site and can’t see any hebrew writings that you posted.
Oh you want to see Hebrew then this should do you. https://biblehub.com/text/isaiah/9-6.htm are you ok now?
Christianity Etc › Re: If God Has A Son.... by tctrills: 10:22pm On Jan 21, 2023
Maynman:
Open the site and screenshot it.
Now, you are asking me to spoon-feed you. I read your article without needing you to screen shot.
Christianity Etc › Re: If God Has A Son.... by tctrills: 10:21pm On Jan 21, 2023
Maynman:
You and i know you are lying. Didn’t know christians can be this desperate.

https://www.hebrew-streams.org/works/hebrew/yeshayahu714.html
Oga. you did not even read what you sent at all. It does not even support your point.It seems you are the fraud afterall
Christianity Etc › Re: If God Has A Son.... by tctrills: 10:18pm On Jan 21, 2023
Maynman:
Who told you what you posted was Hebrew we are referring to? Did you check before you copied it bwahahahah

I’m not a brainwashed sheep like you.
Cant you boys have a discussion without insults and name calling? Is it not possible?
Christianity Etc › Re: If God Has A Son.... by tctrills: 10:17pm On Jan 21, 2023
Maynman:
You and i know you are lying. Didn’t know christians can be this desperate.

https://www.hebrew-streams.org/works/hebrew/yeshayahu714.html
Good now mine [url]htstp/sharperiron.org/article/isaiah-96-7-hebrew-text-ancient-versions:/[/url]
Christianity Etc › Re: If God Has A Son.... by tctrills: 10:15pm On Jan 21, 2023
Maynman:
So desperate you’ll forged language exactly like how your New Testament was forged.
You have no link to post of your hebrew translation because there’s none.

You think I’m a sheep like you that you can bobo
Oga, yes oh, I suddenly leant to write Hebrew just for our discussion. Now show your links or stop the fake Hebrew.
Christianity Etc › Re: If God Has A Son.... by tctrills: 10:14pm On Jan 21, 2023
Maynman:
What particular link should i post?

So you can’t post your expert link?

I believe you are lying, so shame me by posting the link you got your translation from now now.
Somehow, I both believe each other is lying. And it's ok not to trust each other. But you were the first to start the Hebrew class so it ok if you show your links first. I have already promised to do the same so why don't you put me to Shame. Unless you are fake.
Christianity Etc › Re: If God Has A Son.... by tctrills: 10:11pm On Jan 21, 2023
Maynman:
So christians dey do taqqiya too? Bwahahahah
It's like you are into music. I have already promised to share my links once I see yours
Christianity Etc › Re: If God Has A Son.... by tctrills: 10:05pm On Jan 21, 2023
Maynman:
Kindly post the link where you got your hebrew translation that you posted earlier.
I honestly don't understand you. The polite thing is for you to post links to your view first then challenge me to post mine.
Again you believe I am lying so you should not have a problem posting you links and if I can't post mine, I would be shamed as a dishonest person.
Christianity Etc › Re: If God Has A Son.... by tctrills: 10:01pm On Jan 21, 2023
Maynman:
Not a single one said it, they are not dull.

Please post your link
You are the demanding type right? But then, you have not posted any links yourself. So If I post a Link supporting the bible version, would you agree you are wrong?
Christianity Etc › Re: If God Has A Son.... by tctrills: 9:58pm On Jan 21, 2023
Maynman:
Send me the link to this website cheesy

What’s virgin called in hebrew?
There are thousands of sites do your research.
Christianity Etc › Re: If God Has A Son.... by tctrills: 9:57pm On Jan 21, 2023
Maynman:
First of all, this is a mistranslation. The words in the original Hebrew are, ‘sar shalom.’ The word ‘sar’ does not mean ‘prince,’

Prince’ in Hebrew is ‘nasee’ and not ‘sar.’ The Christian translators intentionally chose the English word ‘prince’ to lead the reader into thinking about Jesus.
Well, as I said, I don't speak Hebrew but it's much better I follow the experts than you my random friend on Nairaland don't you think?
Christianity Etc › Re: If God Has A Son.... by tctrills: 9:55pm On Jan 21, 2023
Maynman:
I’m saying in the original text a “virgin” was not mentioned, it may have been edited to that in your versions.

This refers to King Chizkiyahu/Hezekiah, as Rashi and Ibn Ezra, the great rabbinic commentaries explain. You’ll note the operative word here in Hebrew is Yulad, “was born” from the Hebrew grammatical construct of Binyan Pu’al. The English translations that dubiously say “is born” are therefore incorrect. Being that this refers to someone who “was born” and already living during Isaiah’s time, that is 700 years before Jesus! So in no way, can this verse refer to Jesus. But rather, it refers to King Chizkiyahu (Hezekiah), a contemporary of Isaiah’s.
Again, I don't speak Hebrew so I researched. כִּי־הִנֵּה הַנַּעַר הָרָה וְנִקְרָא עֶלְיוֹ שֵׁם עִמָּנוּאֵל כִּי־אֶעֱנֶה יְהוָה עַל־אַדְמַת הַזֹּאֲתָ לֹא־בַחֲמַת־עַם וְלֹא־בַכַּף חָרָב

This verse in Hebrew is saying "Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel."
Christianity Etc › Re: If God Has A Son.... by tctrills: 9:51pm On Jan 21, 2023
Maynman:
Which language was the original written in?


In the Hebrew, the verse explicitly says, in the past tense: “A child was born to us. A son has been given to us. Government (or authority) is on his shoulder. And his name has been called, ‘God-plans-a wonder-God-is-wonderful-Mighty-Eternal-a-Peaceable Ruler” Isaiah 9:6.
So I don't speak Hebrew hence I just made some research and again you are wrong.

כִּי־זֶרַע יְשַׁלַּח יְהוָה לָכֶם נְאֻם־יְהוָה וְרֹעֶה יִקָּח עַל־שְׁכֶם

This verse in Hebrew is saying "For a child has been born to us, a son has been given to us, and authority rests upon his shoulders; and he is named Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace."
Christianity Etc › Re: If God Has A Son.... by tctrills: 9:45pm On Jan 21, 2023
Maynman:
I’m saying in the original text a “virgin” was not mentioned, it may have been edited to that in your versions.

This refers to King Chizkiyahu/Hezekiah, as Rashi and Ibn Ezra, the great rabbinic commentaries explain. You’ll note the operative word here in Hebrew is Yulad, “was born” from the Hebrew grammatical construct of Binyan Pu’al. The English translations that dubiously say “is born” are therefore incorrect. Being that this refers to someone who “was born” and already living during Isaiah’s time, that is 700 years before Jesus! So in no way, can this verse refer to Jesus. But rather, it refers to King Chizkiyahu (Hezekiah), a contemporary of Isaiah’s.
Oga, it's simple, we both don't believe in the same text. Please prove yours is the original. I am listening.
Christianity Etc › Re: If God Has A Son.... by tctrills: 9:42pm On Jan 21, 2023
Maynman:
I’m saying:
Isaiah 7:14 says the woman “is giving birth.” Present participle (feminine singular). Yoledet. The woman is in the process of giving birth as he speaks (or writes).
in Isaiah 7:14. Here, Isaiah wrote, quite uncontroversially, that “the young woman is with child”, but this Hebrew text was mistranslated into the Greek Septuagint (LXX) as “a virgin will conceive”.
Please answer my question sir. Are you teaching that a virgin gave birth to the prince of peace, the Everlasting Father, the mighty God in the days of Isiah?
Christianity Etc › Re: If God Has A Son.... by tctrills: 9:40pm On Jan 21, 2023
AntiChristian:
Yes, a virgin didn't give birth outside the Bible!

Why would the naming of the child be done by Christians outside the Bible?
I thought you said it was a prophecy. Jesus has many names. The bible tells us that Emmanuel was one of them so how does what you are saying change any of that.

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