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MaxInDHouse:
Below is how you came after me when you've vowed never to quote me again on this forum!

I never have any business with faithless ones like you it's you people that's always quoting me first but then i will continue to present the one and only organization of faithful people no matter what you think, say or do.

So if you have nothing more to say go and continue worshiping with your kind!

Story for the Gods. Baba quote your bible verse and enlighten us or concede to your errors and humble yourself.

MaxInDHouse:
God's law says
"Kill the evildoers in your midst"
But then instead of Benjaminites to hand over the culprits they were ready to fight against those keeping God's law.
Now those who also want to maintain God's laws forgot to ask for God's support before going to war against their own brothers.

That's what you need to know.
As for WARS our God will never ever support His worshipers to wage WAR against their fellow believers because both of them will pray to Him. It's just like your own son begging for your support to deal ruthlessly with another son of yours when both of them are in good terms with you. One must have gone against your orders before the other could get approval to deal with him just as Phineas killed an Israelite who was committing fornication with a Moabite!

Again you guys are all about guesswork. When you finally find the verse that says you can go to war with members of other sects but not your members, I would be here. You know where to find me.

mariahAngel:


You're paranoid.

What state are you from? Cross river or Akwa Ibom?

What is wrong with you guys and tribalism.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ things like that goes round for a purpose those building schools aren't doing so because they love others, NO! They were planning ahead so as to get prepared more slaves for their class in the future.
So if anyone escapes and become wealthy it's not due to the schooling but time and chances that happens to favour him or her! Ecclesiastes 9:11

Reading, Writing and Passing information is just what we all need to connect the world around us not for someone to become rich otherwise all university graduates supposed to be wealthy today!

So sending your child to school makes him a slave wow. The JW and their beliefs.
Your second point about being rich is actually not very sound. No one said going to school makes one a billionaire but in every single country, the educated class is always richer than the illiterates.
Again, you are being a hypocrite because I know if you have the funds you will pay for a University education for your kids.

achorladey:
And he is still enjoying that benefit up till today

He is only being hypocritical

MaxInDHouse:
According to God's law back then a rapist should be forced to marry the victim or pay any amount imposed on him by the father of the victim, he must not divorce the victim nor treat her badly all the days of her life. But the benjaminites gang raped a lady and instead of their tribe to bring out those culprits for justice they picked up weapons in support of what is evil that's why the entire assembly of Israel went against Benjamin.
Now this is what i've been telling you since, instead of them to call on God before going against their brothers they just pick up weapons thinking they're more so God refused to give them victory against Benjamin.
So know today that the true God is against His worshipers picking up weapons against their fellow believers, if you're doing it or supporting those doing it then you're not a worshiper of the Bible God!

Looool... This is just like any other war my friend. This is just like the Biafran war. So your point is that whenever God's people disobey, you are allowed to kill them and go to war. This is already comedy.

Again, can you point to the verse of the bible where you learned that God is against His worshipers picking up weapons against their fellow believers, if you're doing it or supporting those doing it then you're not a worshiper of the Bible God! I am waiting for you.

MaxInDHouse:
At that point in time BENJAMIN has turned against the laws of God so they're no longer worshiping the God whose laws they snubbed!

We all turn against God's will at one point or the other. So the JW doctrine is, to kill any member who turns against God.

MaxInDHouse:
READING WRITING and PASSING INFORMATION has been here for ages so if you think it's today that EDUCATION begin then you're lying to your own soul!

Actually, No. 200 years ago, 90% of the world could not read at all. For Africa, it was more than 99% that could not read. But people built schools and created the atmosphere for you and your children to be educated.

MaxInDHouse:
Call it whatever you want one thing is clear God never support His worshipers against their fellow believers so if you're still supporting believers killing themselves then you're not a worshiper of the Bible God!

That's your opinion, use your bible. I just pointed you to the war between Israel and Benjamin

MaxInDHouse:
Please which of the responses would you like me to address?

I repeat again:
"NONE OF THE THINGS YOU MENTIONED HAS MADE THE WORLD SAFER AND SECURED"

Technology is like seasoning it only sweeten a safer and secured life it can never make life safe nor secure!

Oga since education does not make life better, please don't send your kids to school.

MaxInDHouse:
Go and make a thorough research on the God you quoted as "man of battle" in the Bible, his worshipers do pray to him before going to war so as to conquer their enemies. But they have no impetus to pray to the same God asking for victory over their fellow believers!

That's to tell you God only permit His worshipers to pick up weapons against those who are not His worshipers not against their fellow believers!

Come are you still into guesswork? Did the tribe of Isreal not invade the tribe of Benjamin? Ok, I get it, your point is that the House of Israel went to battle without prayer right? You just continue to make up things as you go.

Look, sir, stop this guesswork, it's not the way of God. If war is a sin, God would have revealed it.

MaxInDHouse:
None of the things you mentioned has brought any betterment to the lives of people around you!

POVERTY: According to Jesus the real poor one is the ruler whose subjects are begging to feed {Psalms 23:1} so if there are beggars among the subjects then the ruler is incompetent! Luke 22:25-26

HEALTH CARE: Most sicknesses affecting lives of people today comes due to negligence to God's laws regarding sound health! Act 15:28-29

SAFETY & SECURITY: Jesus made it clear to his listeners that our life doesn't depend on the material possessions we selfishly accumulate {Matthew 6:19-21} so if we are happy to see everyone being fed well we will be safer and secured in the midst of people who have everything equally! Ecclesiastes 5:12

EDUCATION: Education is the process of imparting knowledge, skill and judgment says the oxford dictionary. So education is all about knowledge, skill and judgment which God's people are globally known for today!

HUMAN RIGHT: Only when people are equally fed not where some are living like kings while others are their slaves that one can speak of RIGHTS of our fellow HUMANS!

So none of your points proves that the world is getting better!

I am beginning to feel that it's not your fault, someone has misinformed you so let me help fix it by giving you data in infographic form. If you don't understand any of the tables below, just let me know, and I would take the time to explain them.

achorladey:
He needs something like the below from his religious publications and words of his GODS

Without doubt, in one way or another most people living today have benefited from the advancement of science and technology. In developed and developing nations alike, technology has brought numerous material advantages in nearly every aspect of life. First and foremost, the use of machines, fertilizers, pesticides, and improved seeds has increased the food supply and nutrition for much of the world’s population. Advancements in medical science have resulted in better health and a longer life span for many. The automobile and the airplane, along with developments in electronics, computers, and satellites, have made it possible for people to travel and to communicate with others around the world with relative ease. On a more personal level, technology has eliminated much of the drudgery and labor both at work and at home.

Although some people in the technologically advanced countries are fond of talking about the ‘good old days,’ few are ready to give up the vast number of time- and labor-saving devices that they have come to take for granted or have grown accustomed to in their daily lives. Technology has indeed become a useful slave, making it possible, as one observer put it, for ordinary people today to live “as kings of an earlier time never could.”

This is so clear for all to see but trust me, MaxInDHouse would find a way to twist and bend it.

MaxInDHouse:
None of the things you mentioned has brought any betterment to the lives of people around you!

POVERTY: According to Jesus the real poor one is the ruler whose subjects are begging to feed {Psalms 23:1} so if there are beggars among the subjects then the ruler is incompetent! Luke 22:25-26

HEALTH CARE: Most sicknesses affecting lives of people today comes due to negligence to God's laws regarding sound health! Act 15:28-29

SAFETY & SECURITY: Jesus made it clear to his listeners that our life doesn't depend on the material possessions we selfishly accumulate {Matthew 6:19-21} so if we are happy to see everyone being fed well we will be safer and secured in the midst of people who have everything equally! Ecclesiastes 5:12

EDUCATION: Education is the process of imparting knowledge, skill and judgment says the oxford dictionary. So education is all about knowledge, skill and judgment which God's people are globally known for today!

HUMAN RIGHT: Only when people are equally fed not where some are living like kings while others are their slaves that one can speak of RIGHTS of our fellow HUMANS!

So none of your points proves that the world is getting better!

Oga sorry to ask but are you crazy? You Claim that reduction in poverty, education, better health care, and the like have no positive impact on society? Outside the walls of your church and the secrecy of Nairaland can you even write such on your real Facebook account?

According to the JW, education, healthcare, human right, and reduction in poverty has brought betterment to the lives of people around them. This is mad!!!

We are now beginning to say dangerous things. So what's the difference between you guys and book haram? Oga, this time I must confess that you are entering mucky waters. Your beliefs are leading you into a dangerous path.

MaxInDHouse:
Is there any time when worshipers of the same God pray to Him for victory over their fellow believers in the same God?

That's where you missed it all big time!

It's not written if they should pray for victory or not over their fellow believers but I know you guys would have done some serious guessing. So according to JW, you only pray for victory over people of other faith? So if the man raping your wife is also a JW, you would not pray to defeat him, Hmm, I see.

thesicilian:
Google the meaning of usury then come and edit your post. If pride will allow you.

Oga we know the meaning but since you are proving ignorant, that is exactly what Obi did. Usury is the action or practice of lending money at unreasonably high rates of interest.

MaxInDHouse:
What did Jesus say about WAR?

He never said anything against going to war or fighting for your nation. But then I am sure you want to use your guesswork method again.
In fact, Jehovah whom you claim to serve is the God of war, mighty in battle.

Many times in your bible, God used war as a tool to bring about his purposes. So stop the pretense. Are you holier than God?

MaxInDHouse:
When your neighbours have to build houses with huge iron bars, hire security operatives (heavily armed) with pitbulls just to prevent their fellowman from coming close then you say the world is getting better, shey?

I understand you Sir!

Oga building with iron bars and owning pitbull, is that the official JW index of checking if the world is better or not?
Well the intelligent world depend on other index to see improvement.
Some of the things the rest of us consider are
1. Poverty
2. Health care
3. Safety and security.
4. Education
5. Human rights.
So it's ok, keep checking on the number of burglaries in your street since you have made such the JW standard.

MaxInDHouse:
Your question is irrelevant to the issue of WAR!

If a man tries to rape a woman or a woman tries to rape a man the whole community will stand up to condemn him or her but WARS is a totally different thing because multitude runs mad at the same time and the next thing is wiping away of an entire race for what they can sit on a round table to resolve peacefully!

Please sir, forget about the whole community condemning rape. The international community also condemn Russia. What would you do at the very moment you catch a rapist on top of your wife?

MaxInDHouse:
How has any of these addressed the issue of greed that's making people build houses with heavy iron burglaries?
Ọmọ improvement isn't about technology but a world where people have rest of mind that the person living next to them is a friend.
Regarding the old market system that's what really happened back during my grandparent's days.
So if you want to deceive yourself it allowed but everyone knows that the world is changing from bad to worst when talking about safety of lifes and properties!

Oga so you issue is that people build houses with burglaries? The world is is much better and safer place but JW don't recognize any of these good and improvements because people still build with burglaries. Loool. It's clear that you are just grabbing on straws.
Oga one thing I love about JW is their believe in science. I read your magazines and they try to stick to facts.
I have given you clear fasts that the world is better and safer but you continue to act like facts don't matter and all that matters is a market your grandma told you about.
I understand that if you confess to the many positive changes in the world, you would no longer be able to condemn other organizations and even governments. But still stick to facts.

thesicilian:
Help me ask them o
Government is supposed to use availability resources to better the lives of the people, not save it for the next politician to squander.
Even in the Bible, the only servant that saved his talent (instead of investing it like others) was cast away in anger by the Master.

Clearly you don't know the bible story. It's ok if you don't quote the bible and stick to your religion.
This is what God told the foolish servant. 27 Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury.
Don't blame Obi because you lack the savings and investment culture.

[quote author=HydraFeeds post=120328301][/quot
Ah I don jam madman

MaxInDHouse:
Please ask people who are 80+ to verify from them if such a world ever existed.
But if that is true then there's nothing that has improved except technology which has always been improving from the onset!

So forget you funny market system and let's talk facts
. According to you, nothing has improved now let me teach you.
1. Health care had improved. People now live longer than any time in recorded history.
2. Hunger has reduced. There are less people living in hunger and abject poverty than even 50 years ago.
3. Freedoms and human rights have improved all over the world even in Saudi Arabia.
4. Reduction in wars. Less wars are being fought than in time past. In fact western Europe has not seen war since 1945. This is a miracle. I guess the Europeans became JW.
5. Literacy
6. Women's rights
Should I go on educating you?

MaxInDHouse:
I talked about "WAR" where multitude pick up weapons in support of one man whose wife raped against another multitude of people in support of the rapist instead of everyone to come together and condemn the evil act.
So WAR is not about one man raping the wife of another man because the whole community will stand against such evil act rather it's about multitude of people people carrying weapons in support of one man's ambition.
That's why i'm telling you that it makes no sense using a rapist's case to cover up for WAR!

I understand what you are trying to do but it does not answer my question.
Answer my question first, I want to check something.
I am enjoying the way you refuse to address a basic question

[quote author=HydraFeeds post=120328058]There’s nothing like illiterate, what we have is an illiterate person . You see sey na you suppose go back to school ?

[/quotelol see olodo.

[quote author=HydraFeeds post=120326807][/quote]This is deep coming from an illiterate.

MaxInDHouse:
You stylishly dodge my question so i will ask again!
Do such market truly exist back then?
Please answer this question before we proceed to another subject on life back then and today.
Thanks!

Honestly I don't know, I don't claim to know everything. But I also know that it was a miserable life. Your grandparents depended on the irregularities of nature to survive. It was hard to keep children alive. If the rains delayed, an entire community could die of hunger (it happened to the entire nation of Ireland). Please go home and correct your grandparents.

MaxInDHouse:
Don't change the subject!
WAR is what i was talking about not two men dragging issues so appropriately address the issue of WAR not TWO FIGHTING.
Thanks!

Oga you are the one changing the subject and escaping a simple question. And it's funny you would see someone raping your wife as two fighting.

MaxInDHouse:
Listen and learn!

WAR is not about a man or two men dragging issues but multitude of people prepared to kill one another.
Putin of Russia is just one person if everyone is a JW Putin's evil scheme will routine inside his bones because he won't get a single person to support him in invading any community.

When Peter drew his sword to fight for Jesus all he needed is a go ahead and support from his fellow disciples but since he never got such the spirit of WAR died instantly.

That's what JWs are telling you people!
That's what Jesus taught!

My question was about someone raping your wife. It was not about Peter nor Russia. Please read the question again and address it appropriately thanks bro.

MaxInDHouse:
My own grandparents LIED but i was so shocked that their mates supported this lie!

Well they said during their own youthful days you don't need to stay beside you wares in the market place, all you need is keep few stones to indicate the amount you want to sell your goods and so in a whole market most farmers will do the same leaving their goods and going to attend to other things but the most shocking thing they told me is that buyers will pay exact amount and if they need a balance they will take their change and drop the accurate amount beside those goods!

Please help me ask elderly people around you perhaps they are also LIARS like my grandparents and their mates. But if this is true then i agree with you that with what we have today surely the world has become much safer and better than my grandparent's time!

Oga, yes your grandparents were ignorant. But since they did not tell you the truth let me give it to you. In the days of your grandparents, at least 3 out of 10 children died before they were 5. There were more wars in the world as a whole. People were poorer and live was much more harder by all social index.

My African friend, just read a book and don't be as ignorant as your grandma.
Did your grandma tell you about the world wars and slavery and discrimination? Did they tell you that as a black man, you could not sit in the same park with whites? Please if your parents are alive go back and educate them.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2017/11/30/why-the-world-is-getting-better-why-hardly-anyone-knows-it/?sh=221046637826
I left you a link so that next time you go to the village, you can correct your grandma.

Goldmynemaniac:
Have you noticed that all the women alleging things against Suleiman are into acting/showbiz?

From the first accuser, Stephanie Otobo, to the latest,Halima Abubakar, they're all into the acting and showbiz industry.

I'm not defending anyone but just find the probability of this coincidence being innocent highly unlikely.

Back in the days of Archbishop Benson Idahosa, an actress was paid to hide in his hotel wardrobe, in a city he was visiting, to take compromising pictures of him while asleep. All without his knowledge but it was foiled when she started burning up in the wardrobe she was hiding in.


If I wanted to sell a lie, an actist would be the perfect pick to play the role convincely.

Why are these women not also coming out about politicians and business people they've affairs with if there's no satanic agenda to this to 'accuse the brethren'? Or do they mean they've never slept with anyone else?

If yes they ever slept with another man, why is Suleiman's own worth revealing and not the others? Could it be cause he's a man of God, and as such, his reputation is of great consequence? Most likely also because there is inducement.

I'm not saying Apostle is innocent though. Only God knows this.

#Thinklets

Please what is the name of the burning actress that was sent to frame up Archbishop Benson Idahosa? I could not find your story on the internet.

HydraFeeds:
so you want Lagos to fall abi ? Na true sey lower people Dey wan make uplifted people fall .

My advise is that you return to school.