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This topic was treated sometimes last year. Search for it on the culture section. |
ABU naturally ahead. Was an undergrad at Red seat Shehu Umar Hall 1992. It is still a wonder how I survived Faculty of Medicine and Barau Dikko Hall, ABUTH, Tudun Wada. There is no need for this type of seating arrangement, Medicine is for the fittest, survival of the fittest via natural selection. If you cheat in the theory and MCQ, What of the clinical and practicals? Wish the new generation best of luck Is Dr. Sola, Prof. Adelaiye, Sadiq, Prof. Sabitu, Dipo Aina, Dan Bauchi, Ejembi still in Samaru? |
Good one. I keep wandering what is the global touring all about. Sit down at home and fix the country. VP and ministers can be busy with the travels. We moved from a clueless one to a scalar quantity (no direction). |
[quote author=Babe2sure post=43911047]He might likely died of gangrene. Whoever is bitten on finger, thumb or toe could have gangrene infection. And if not treated on time could lead to death or in some cases amputation. It is the seizure of blood supply to that part of the body bitten. However, autopsy should be conducted on him to know the exact cause of death.[/quote Haba gangrene in 24 hours after human bite without application of toxic agents on the wound? Please don't mislead the public with your wrong pathology lecture. He might have ruptured some vessels or aneurysms due to the excess force he used in beating up the lady. An autopsy is a must but I believe the lady is just a victim of circumstances and guy has some underlying medical conditions or poisoned by someone else. |
This is a total misleading title. The woman is not a Nigerian but an American. There is no information relating her to Nigeria. Iyana or Liana are not Nigerian names while Sade is not unique to Nigeria. Nairaland has really gone to the dogs. Moderators posting unverified and false titles on front page. |
RAF my prof of pathology way back in the 90's ABUTH Tudun Wada Zaria. An American looking Fulani man. Simple and humble unlike most of our senior colleagues. We are proud of you Prof |
Will Ibadan ever have a young King? Yes or No The emergence of an insight and youthful prince as Ooni has renewed the agitation for Ibadan to have a youthful King. The demise of Olubadan Odugade Odulana at 101 years and the automatic emergence of High Chief Adetunji at 80 years as the Olubadan elect is presently calling to question the Kingship system of the Ibadans. To really understand this scenario one needs to know the history of Ibadan. The present location of Ibadan was largely populated by the Egbas before being forced out by regular raid for slaves by others Yoruba groups. An Ife warrior, Lagelu started the first Ibadan settlement before it was attacked and most people fled into hiding to a living as refugees. Gradually life came to the settlement with the arrival of mainly marauding warriors who made Ibadan their war camp. At this point the camp was mainly made up of the Oyos, Ifes, Ijebus and Egbas. Ibadan became prosperous because of the warriors exploits of attacking other towns for slaves and collecting taxes from others. However, there was no King rather they recognise and see themselves as an off shoot of Alaafin Oyo because most of the warriors are from Oyo and only pay homage to Alaafin. Ibadan became the defender of the Yorubas and was growing into another Oyo, fighting on four fronts until they were checked by the Ekiti parapo on one front, the Egbas on another front etc. From the beginning Ibadan operates the warrior system of chieftaincy and does not have a king but a Baale (The leaders of the warriors). Olubadan became recognised as a King and as a first class king about 40 years ago. The warriors operated a military system of promotion and when one of them dies the next in line take up the position. It is a known fact that Balogun Adetunji is the next in line for the Olubadan position since the Osi Olubadan died in October or November 2015. Will Ibadan ever have a young King? Yes or No No, unless this present promotional system is abolished. To be position as an Olubadan, you must have been selected a Mogaji (Head of the family) of one of the original Ibadan warrior family. To become Mogaji, you are likely to be in your 50s or even 60s. A Mogaji who eventually got admitted into either of the two chieftaincy lines will have to wait for another 40 or 50 years if he lives to be 80 or 90 to become an Olubadan. Will Ibadan ever have a young King? Yes or No Yes, it is possible if we have a 10 year old as a Mogaji. Will any family be ready to appoint a 10 year old as their Mogaji so that we can have a 50 or 60 year old Olubadan? Ibadan cannot change to the royal house rotational system like the other towns because that will lead to having more that 40 royal houses. I believe the system is good since it has proven controversial free even since the days of the real warriors but there is need to introduce some changes to throw up more agile and educated Olubadans than old men who are great grand fathers. |
Pheals:You are wrong. Lisabi was born ?1700s in the Egba homestead long before relocation to Abeokuta in 1830. Egbas were formerly the original occupants of the present Ibadan. Egbas were not living together as it is in Abeokuta but separately as different towns. Most of the Egba towns had their own kings or leaders. The Egbas that survived the journey to Abeokuta decided to stay together as a single group and fought their enemies. They were later joined by the Owus and others who were also looking for a place of refuge. |
abumeinben:The write up referred to Benin Republic not Benin City. Lassa fever was first recognized in Lassa, a town in the present Borno State in the 1960s. |
This is a 1931 population figure based on taxes. I believe Ekiti is grouped together with Ondo and Ibadan together with Oyo Abeokuta- Egba, Egbado Ijebu- Ijebu, Remo Ondo- Ondo, Ekiti, Okitipupa, Owo Oyo - Oyo, Ife, Ilesha, Ibadan Ilorin - Ilorin, Borgu, Pategi-Lafiagi Kabba- Kabba, Igbirra, Koton-Karifi, Igala Colony - Lagos Oyo is obviously the largest group if we go by provincial divisions of the 1930s
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This thread is more or less a divisive one. I am from an evidence based research background, your conclusion must be supported by indisputable facts and figures. Where are those evidences to claim one group is having more people than the others. This is just an hypothesis and not to be taken as facts. 1. You cannot use the numbers of towns and hamlets to justify this - What is the population of all these towns? 2. We cannot use the latest census figures from each of these towns to justify our hypothesis because those figures are for all individuals (both local and non-indigenes) 2006 census Ekiti - 2.38M, Ogun - 3.66M, Ondo- 3.44M, Osun - 3.42M, Oyo - 5.59M Lagos, Kwara and Kogi are too diverse with non Yoruba groups. 3. Basing our assumption on spread across numerous states is also not correct 4. Where do you place big towns like Ibadan with local Oyo, Ijebu, Egba, Ijesa, Ife etc original settlers. The town and its hamlets is made up of all these group of people. Do we just take Ibadan to be of Oyo. Even Abeokuta is not 100% Egba - A large part of the town are Owus, Ijayes, Yewas etc. Many Egbas are originally Oyo Ilorin is another mix bag. Where do we place the Owus who are scattered all over SW , NC and Benin Republic 5. What group do we place the Yorubas outside Nigeria especially those in Benin Republic, Togo, Americas 6. It is a known fact that a large proportion of Yoruba subgroup population are residing in Lagos. Personally about 70% of my town people are either in Lagos or Ibadan for the 3rd generation. How do you account for such? Ekiti State may be the state with an almost 100% subgroup population with Ekitis in Osun, Kwara and Kogi States, that doesnt make the group the largest. Mind you Oyos have large population in Osun as well and constituted the largest group in Ibadan at the inception. Egbas are also part of Lagos mainland. Ijebus are both major player in Ogun and Lagos States with huge stake in Ibadan. What of the Akokos extending to part of Edo. Can we objectively claim a group is the largest? Based on what? |
Notwithstanding the similarities between some aspects of Ogori culture and that of the Yoruba, instead of claiming Yoruba origin, it is more plausible to infer a cultural contact between the people and the Yoruba in the past. According to Edahson (1981), the more plausible explanation for the cultural similarity between Ogori and Yoruba, is that Ogori, Ife and Edo could have had some political, social and cultural relationships in the past. And as such the myth that Ile-Ife is the centre of creation permeated Ogori, hence, like other groups, claim Ile-Ife as their home of origin. It is possible that the Ogori like most African people decided to claim descent from Ile-Ife in their bid to give themselves a more prestigious identity and recognition. Ogori is a confederation of Adu’bane, Osho’bane, Okibo and Eni clans. The Adu’bane, Osho’bane and Okibo are collectively known as ONU. The Onus were said to be the earliest arrival to the present Ogoriland, and they first settled in a place called Onumoba (Imoru, Pers. Comm. 2003). The Eni clan was said to be a later arrival to the area in search of their claimed lost brothers (the ONUS) who were said to have missed their way home in a hunting expedition (Akerejola 1970). The geography of the area must have influenced the choice of the area for settlement by the people of Ogori given the security situation at the time of their movement around the Niger/Benue confluence. Ogoriland is located in a valley enclosed by hills, these hills provided protection against external invasion. Ogori as a settlement became established through several waves of migration of people to the area. The different groups in the course of migrations settled in various places such as Ilesha, Owo, Idomaland and Ajaokuta area before their final arrival to the present location. file:///C:/Users/olatunji/Downloads/UNN-FAJH23.pdf |
Ogori people see themselves as a descendant of Oduduwa from Ile-Ife who had contact with many other groups in their migrations. They justify this claim in many ways. For instance, in Ogori, the farewell song when a bride is being accompanied to the groom’s home depicts an Ile-Ife origin “Osimire Memek’Ado O Osimire” meaning Oh! Osimire, having bidden farewell to you, home to which there is no return, I am now in Ado (Benin). Osimire is said to be a river at Ile-Ife which the ancestors of Ogori were said to have crossed during their migration from Ile-Ife. Equally, the observance of some festivals in Ogori are identical with those of some parts of Yoruba and Benin. For example, the coronation ceremony of an ‘Oya’ title in Ogori corresponds with that of Benin. Ogori Ovia-Osese festival is also similar with a festival called Igogo in Owo and Evieme festival in Ozalla, Edo State. Ogori type tribal marks are also similar to those of Yoruba and the Benin variety. Oduro (waiters) in Yoruba palaces also correspond with waiters in Ogori palace (Osheidu, 1980). Furthermore, in Ogori Royal palace are kept beaded crowns, the Ogoloko swords and other regalia dating to the seventh century which correspond with those found in Yoruba land (Oyedele 1982). In fact, the Oni of Ife, Oba Adesoji Aderemi in 1979 confirmed that the Ogori crown is of Ife Origin but of the Benin pattern. Another evidence of the claim of Yoruba origin is the easy adoption of Yoruba names, customs and language by Ogori people. The Ogori speak Yoruba as a second language. Also the name Oduduwa “the father of all Yoruba” has a native name in Ogori known as Odudurudu. As such the people like the Yoruba, regard Oduduwa as their ancestor. |
Origin and Migrations of the Ogori People of The Niger/Benue Confluence Area Ogori people are a sub ethnic group today found in the North central part of Kogi State with a projected population of about sixty-thousand (60,000). Ogori is said to have a history that span up to about 700 hundred years. The origin of the people of Ogori is thus tied to the waves of migration of the Yoruba. The people traced their origin to Ile-Ife, the Yoruba ancestral home. According to oral tradition, the people of Ogori arrived their present location through series of migration from Ile-Ife having settled intermittently in places like Ilesha, owo, Benin, Idoma land and Ajaokuta before their present location (Akerejola 1970). The people of Ogori haven settled in Idomaland were said to have proceeded in their migration passing through Igalaland into Aboko (Ajaokuta) and Egori districts to Igbirra Pete, Ipesi Ate and Okejebu till their final arrival in the present area where they are now found. A section of Ogori was said to have separated in Ajaokuta (Aboko) and proceeded to Gobbo, Mozun and Toto areas of Nassarawa via Niger and Benue confluence and later to Kakanda where another Ogori settlement exists till this day (Osheidu 1980). According to oral tradition and written sources, Ogori in their migratory era consisted of many clans, many of which have been consumed by the larger ones. These clans are said to be Adu’bane, Oso’bane, Okibo, Arigo, Ogbegbe, Oturu, Egewu, Okpowo and Eni. Some of these clans later separated to establish their own settlements in different places. The Okpoowo, Oturu and Ogbegbe clans are now found in Magongo, about 3 kilometres to Ogori. Some others separated to settle with their counterparts from Ile-Ife, in places like the present Makeke, Bekuma, Oja and Ososo all in present Edo State (Holgate 1950). file:///C:/Users/olatunji/Downloads/UNN-FAJH23.pdf |
These are my observations and comments based on my experience in and out of Nigeria in both public and private sectors. 1. House officers are doctors in training and should never be in charge of A&E. Most HOs could hardly secure IV access or suture in the first few weeks of internship. I was trained in a teaching hospital with Paediatrics, Obst and Gynae, Surgery and Internal Med departments having the HOs and Registrars manning different cubicles together in the A&E even during holidays and weekends. HOs must work with Casualty Officers and see accident victims together in order to gain experience. 2. In General Hospitals, the Medical Officer is supposed to be on ground to see emergency cases with the HOs. My experience with General Hospitals is that most patients are referred to the FMCs or Teaching Hosp without any resuscitation. How on earth do an MO ask HO to ask for deposit or refer critical cases without even seeing the patients. 3. The poster should have attempted to do some resuscitation such as secure IV access, give plasma expanders, secure bleeders etc. Every A&E should have surgical gloves, suturing materials, canula, giving set etc for all emergency cases without any deposit. This is the practise except things have changed (am talking of 15 years ago). 4. In future you need to document every action taken because your MO is likely to deny your allegation on deposit or referral. 5. Referral should not be done by an HO but a senior doctor. HO is not yet a fully licensed doc but practising with a provisional license and cannot be communicating with another hospital as a doctor since he has a senior. 6. It is unethical to put this kind of scenario in the social media. You have implicated yourself, your colleagues and the hospital. I bet you this is not the end of the matter. This case is likely to end up at the Medical and Dental Council, Ministry of Health or the State House of Assembly or even in a court of law. The social media is going to take this up in order to verify if there is any Government hospital in Nigeria asking for deposit for accident victims. Mind you people have being able to trace your hospital and you stated the date and time of the incident. 7. It is unethical to take pictures without informed consent. You could be sued for this. 8. I hope the hospital do a weekly or monthly review to discuss this type of scenario. 9. What is the hospital policy concerning emergencies? We dont need to blame the doctors until we actually know what is the environment they are working in. I wont be crossed if it is a private hospital but a Government Hospital such not be demanding any deposit by attending to emergency. |
[quote author=cosmatika post=41367852]These are my observations and comments based on my experience in and out of Nigeria in both public and private sectors. 1. House officers are doctors in training and should never be in charge of A&E. Most HOs could hardly secure IV access or suture in the first few weeks of internship. I was trained in a teaching hospital with Paediatrics, Obst and Gynae, Surgery and Internal Med departments having the HOs and Registrars manning different cubicles together in the A&E even during holidays and weekends. HOs must work with Casualty Officers and see accident victims together in order to gain experience. 2. In General Hospitals, the Medical Officer is supposed to be on ground to see emergency cases with the HOs. My experience with General Hospitals is that most patients are referred to the FMCs or Teaching Hosp without any resuscitation. How on earth do an MO ask HO to ask for deposit or refer critical cases without even seeing the patients. 3. The poster should have attempted to do some resuscitation such as secure IV access, give plasma expanders, secure bleeders etc. Every A&E should have surgical gloves, suturing materials, canula, giving set etc for all emergency cases without any deposit. This is the practise except things have changed (am talking of 15 years ago). 4. In future you need to document every action taken because your MO is likely to deny your allegation on deposit or referral. 5. Referral should not be done by an HO but a senior doctor. HO is not yet a fully licensed doc but practising with a provisional license and cannot be communicating with another hospital as a doctor since he has a senior. 6. It is unethical to put this kind of scenario in the social media. You have implicated yourself, your colleagues and the hospital. I bet you this is not the end of the matter. This case is likely to end up at the Medical and Dental Council, Ministry of Health or the State House of Assembly or even in a court of law. The social media is going to take this up in order to verify if there is any Government hospital in Nigeria asking for deposit for accident victims. Mind you people have being able to trace your hospital and you stated the date and time of the incident. 7. It is unethical to take pictures without informed consent. You could be sued for this. 8. I hope the hospital do a weekly or monthly review to discuss this type of scenario. 9. What is the hospital policy concerning emergencies? We dont need to blame the doctors until we actually know what is the environment they are working in. I wont be crossed if it is a private hospital but a Government Hospital such not be demanding any deposit by attending to emergency. |
Odunayo doing her thing as a professional wrestler: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk-wxdFT784 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He_uOy9I79s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo9qlzcMGFA |
Odunayo Adekuoroye (born 10 December 1993) is a Nigerian freestyle wrestler.She competed in the women's freestyle 53 kg event at the 2014 Commonwealth Games where she won a gold medal and at the 2015 World Wrestling Championships where she won a bronze medal. Adekuoroye recorded a 10-0 Technical Fall (TF) against Belarusian Nadzeya Shushko and then a 4-0 win by Pin over Asian champion Zhong Xuechun of China in the second repechage round at The Orleans Arena.The win saw the 21-year-old become only the second ever world medalist from Nigeria since Ifeoma Iheanacho, who won bronze medals in the women’s 67kg in 2009 and 2010. She finished the tournament in fourth position behind world champion Saori Yosshida of Japan, runner-up Sofia Magdalena Mattsson of Sweden, whom she lost to, 4-2 by Fall in the quarter-finals. Nigeria’s female wrestler, Odunayo Adekuoroye, has qualified for the Rio 2016 Summer Olympic Games. She is presently representing Revanta's Mumbai Garuda in the Indian Pro-Wrestling League and known as the Wrestling dancing and singing champion from Nigeria because of her unique victory celebration dances. Her exploits in India is helping to give Nigeria a positive perspective in India.
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@op In case you are not aware RCCG camp is a city on its own. It is accessible to all. There are 100s of private residences and thousands sleep there daily and many people there are not even christians.It is not the regular church building. The arena alone accomodates more a million at a go. During RCCG programmes people come from all over the world to fellowship and some come to sell. All these so called christian publications are sold all over Lagos and its environs. Anybody can print any rubbish and bring it to the gates of the camp to sell. RCCG cannot be held accountable for that.Some manage to smuggle those things to sell inside the camp |
macof:Among the Egbas, "lle" is called Orile and it refers to the origin or earlier settlement of a section of the group. Almost all part of Abeokuta has an Orile located elsewhere in Ogun State even in the present Oyo State This shows where the group came from before settling down in Abeokuta |
Lai Mohammed is a confirmed clown. This screening is a just a family meeting. These guys are just having fun at our expenses. These politicians are confirmed pals. All these nairaland criers and fighters are just wasting their time fighting online. |
Gurgle:Singing in a particular language depends on many things. His mother is Yoruba and was his manager until about a year ago. He was born in Port Harcourt but he grew up in Lagos. Naturally a growing child pick up the mother's tongue better than the father's. There is hardly any of his song that he doesnt have Yoruba word or slangs. You need to understand his background. The fact that he has an Ahoada father does not mean that he sees himself as such and can also speak the language as Yoruba. Many of our people in the Niger Delta are also more comfortable speaking Pidgin than their local dialects and therefore should not complain if their kids cannot speak their native languages. Growing environment is a big factor in determining what language an individual speaks. Angelique Kidjo is another example. Her father is Fon while the mother is Ketu Yoruba. She was brought singing in her mother's cultural troupe and was exposed to the core Yoruba tradition and culture. Today, seventy percent of her songs are in Yoruba and virtually all her top hits are in Yoruba. I cannot blame Oluwaburna Ebunoluwa Damini Ogulu, let him sing in the languages he is comfortable with. |
Angelique Kidjo sings mainly in Yoruba language (at least 60% of her songs). She has done a lot in promoting the Yoruba-Fon cultures. I came across a selection of her songs while on an intercontinental flight and was shocked that almost all the songs were in a dialect of Yoruba that is peculiar to people living close to Nigerian/ Benin border with Fon and French influences on the tonation. It is worthy of note that she had a collaboration with Asa on the song titled "Eva" in her album titled Eve. The Beninese icon Angélique Kidjo won her second Grammy for Best World Music Album for her eleventh LP in 2015. Named after Kidjo’s own mother, Eve is an ambitious 13-track (plus three interludes) celebration of female empowerment packed with collaborations from the likes of ASA, Vampire Weekend’s Rostam Batmanglij, Dr. John, Kronos Quartet, and choirs from villages in Benin and Kenya. It seems the Africans in diaspora are more passionate about our cultures and traditions than the ones living in Africa. Her passion for the Yoruba cultures shows no matter where you are located the link will always be there. |
benzion72:This is very insightful. the next Ooni should be a peace loving, bridge builder and non partisan monarch. To me Ife was more or less stagnated in the last four - five decades. It is a case of few making huge sum of money as Ife indigenes but not changing the landscape and upgrading the town. There were lots of fights here and there - with Modakeke, with Oyo, Omishore/Aregbesola etc |
I totally agree that the list should include other top artiste. You are free to add to the list with a good short profile. We are all here to learn. Thank you |
@ Naptu, thanks for the link, it is really educative. I never knew of their existence. I got to know some of the people on the original list while on intercontinental flights and reading their profiles. The intention of this thread is to educate ourselves on our heritage. Many of us in diaspora and our children already have alternative identity beside Nigeria/Benin in terms of our country of birth/country by naturalization but our children and grandchildren must know they are from a group with rich culture and can excel against all odds. Every where I go nowadays, people now know there are Yorubas, Igbos and Hausas in Nigeria and they want to know what makes your ethnic group special. We need to educate ourselves and let our children have good models to look up to. naptu2: |
I agree with you to a large extent but not everyone can be on the list. However it is really educative getting to know others who were nor listed in the original list. Mapletraks: |
The list is not for only Nigerian descents but Yorubas and this include other countries with Yoruba population iamord: |
I am sorry for leaving Alhaji Agba out of the initial list. As the Fuji music front-liner and a legend beyond the coast of West Africa he deserved the honour hannysur8: |
I totally agree with you. No pre-clinical trial, clinical trial, or even NAFDAC input or approval, are Nigerian scientists competing with the paraga or opa eyin peddlers? It would have been a great news but I am really sad that a University professor will be peddling his findings on the page of a soft selling magazine. I tried getting his publications via Pubmed since he claimed publishing in BMJ and ?Medical Research but only came up with 5 veterinary/ animal sciences papers in his name (Ezeibe MC). I understand there are politics and intrigues surrounding HIV treatment and care as the people presently benefiting from the disease will go against an immediate cure but this is not a scientific and evidence based way of announcing an important findings to the world. Gerrard59: |

