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When you carry the cross. People will go around carrying rumours about you. They might say you are mad,demonized, possesed by an evil spirit, a witch, and call you all sort of things. In order to remain a faithful cross bearer, you won't have to give up along the way. You must hold fast to the hope that at the end of the cross there's a crown. The crown is an everlasting glory that cannot be taken from you once you carry your cross down to the end.

You see, God doesn't need your instructions. He knows exactly what to do,how and when to do it. The long prayers you make using microphone and disturbing your neigbours with noise aren't neccesary. God can act without your advice and instructions. It's better to learn how to listen to God and follow God's direction instead of trying to get God listen to you and follow your instructions.

Ref. 3 -Luke 12: 6,7 Aren't five sparrows sold for two pennies? Yet not one of them is forgotten by God. Even the hairs of your head have all been counted.

Ref 2- 1John 3:20 God is greater than our heart and he knows all things.

SUICIDE
It is agreed that soul is eternal and CANNOT die. Since that is the case, why is suicide considered a crime, what if the individual simply wants to have experience of self killing? Isn't that part of his journey to God? What if a person willingly allow other people to murder him without making any attempt to defend himself even when he is physically fit to do so, do eckist condemn such? Is rescuing a person attempting suicide a positive act, or should the person be allowed to freely go through his/her choice?

VIOLENCE/CONFLICT
Can violence be justified in any circumstance? Do eckist participate in war? Is it expected of a high initiate (like that of the 9th level and above) to sue a fellow human to court for any reason? If a high initiate owns a gun for what they call "self defence", will your master encourage him to keep it? is it becoming for an eck clergy to employ police or armed security men to go around with him? How about keeping an agresive dog that can inflict harm on a fellow human to guard ur home and properties, is that a "good" choice?

MYTHS
Do eckists belief that there was once a Golden Age? Or is it a fiction? Is there a posibility of humans reaching a Golden Age in the future where there's all joy and no sorrows? Since eckists have known about time travel, have anyone travel back to the golden age to see how life was? If yes, is it true that babies live with their mothers to the age of hundred? Was conditions exactly the way they are depicted today?

PRAYERS
Eckists sing Hu and contemplate instead of asking God for things. If an arm rober robs your house,you sit down to sing hu and contemplate, along the line you begin to imagine that something painful should befall the rober,or police should get and punish him, is that not a form of prayer? Or let's say one has been rape, the victim sits to sing hu afterwards, during her contemplation, is she going to show gratitude that she's been raped? Then if she begins to imagine that the rapist should get hurt or caught and punish by the police, is she not praying? Let's say the victim is an eckist, will she forgive the rapist and move on with her life with gratitude to God for being raped? Or will she report the rapist? In the later case, it will mean that the victim didn't surender the whole thing to divine spirit.

MEDICATIONS/HEALINGS
Is it spiritualy OK to administer drugs or phychic healing to another person? Does that not rob them of the opportunity of fully reaping what they sow? What of administering drugs to a "mad" person? Is that not a way of interfering with another one's state of consciousness? What about subjecting an insane person to chains and forcefully druging him, is that not a way of restricting his freedom?

INITIATIONS
Are initiation rites necessary? Can one who has not pass through any formal initiation get to the same level of consciousnes as those who are formaly initiated? Is it proper to initiate another individual at all, why not allow them to unfold naturaly at their own pace? Who initiated the first eck master? Are eck initiations reversible?

EVOLUTION
if humans evolved from apes, is there a possibility of reversing the process till all life forms return to bacterial? Do you believe that humans are the most intelligent beings on earth? Are mosquitoes, birds, fungi, algae equally valid by God as humans are? What do you say about Neanderthals and the likes, did they really exist?

MARRIAGE
Do eckist also teach that one must stick to only one woman till death no matter the condition? Are eckist adviced to divorce/seperate and marry another person if things don't go well? If a young man and woman (eckist) agree to live together without observing any "traditional or legal requirement" as the society calls for, will the eckists frown upon them? What if a brother and sister of the same biological parent (or 1st cousins) choose to marry themselves, will that be considered a "crime" among eckists? If a person who is making good progress in the eck path marries two, three, or more wives, will your clergy advice against that? If a married person is reported by her mate for having extra marital affairs, will eckists interfere in such matters or leave the couple to sort it out between themselves?

DEATH
Since death isn't the end of life, if one puts himself in a risky situation with full knowledge that he can possibly die, will that be considered wrong? what if one willingly sacrifice himself (accept to die) to make the condition of another person better, will that be considered a charitable act? Is it necessary that a dead body be burried? What if it is thrown away, or allowed to decay or burnt? What is the need of taking a dead body to mortuary? Do eckist conduct funerals at eck centres? Are there burial rites?

SEX
What does eckankar has to say about sex before marriage? Does celibacy make one closer to God? What about pornograhy and masturbation, do they affect the flow of the holy spirit in one's life? what do you have to say about homosexuality, is it a negative act? what about incest and bestiality, could such acts prevent one from moving closer to God? If a person has multiple sex partner, does that make him/her unable to flow with the holy spirit?

WOMEN
can eckankar allow a woman to take the title of a Mahanta the living eck master? Are men superior to women as some people believe? Was a woman created out of a man's rib as the bible put it? Can a woman conceive without sexual intercourse like the story of Mary?

INSANITY
is it really proper to refer to some people as "Mad"? If "madness" is just a state of consciousness, how, then do the "normal" people know for sure that those they call "mad" are really out of their mind? What if the "mad" people are moving higher than the "normal" people in their journey to God? Are some of those refered to as being "mad" not the ones that have detached from material things? if mind prevents one from becoming soul conscious, are those said to be out of their minds not actually soul conscious? What exactly makes some people to change from the state of "sanity" to "insanity"?

I have many more questions to ask the eckists here. I'll do well to call the attention of benodic, chieveboy to the thread ones again. All my questions from here and below are directed to you. Please try to go through them whenever it's convenience for you. Thanks

To make nigerians understand what you are saying will take ages. Many are ready to crucify you if they don't see you in their religious gathering every sunday. Sadly, what they gather to do is to fight witches and ancestral spirit. Only very few people take responsibility for what happen to them,while majority take refuge in shifting blames to their neighbours, juju men, wizards, buhari, satan, marine spirits etc.

MaxInDHouse:
Oya practice it in your church nah àbí na only Jehovah's Witnesses must practice what Jesus taught his disciples?

But you are the ones claiming to be the only true religion, doing everything according to the bible.

I want to keep monkeys as pets. I don't know how or where to get one. I'll aprreciate some help.

MaxInDHouse:
After eating the emblem that belongs only to the anointed!
Colo mental don enter so he doesn't know what to do again whether to believe in Jesus or not!

long time ago, before the days of Rutherford, everyone ate the emblem. Please how many of them went mad?

MaxInDHouse:
I'm still waiting for them to come and answer my guy before i reveal the secret about all the things he asked!

i can bet you have no secret to tell than repeating what watchtower has been feeding you. Well, everyone here has heard that before and it's not a secret!

MaxInDHouse:
Of all the religions ever mentioned today which is most talked about on this forum?

Well i will help you it's JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES and that's the only organization practicing what Jesus taught exactly as he laid it down! Matthew 5:14-16

jesus said "teach them... ALL that i commanded", but you tell people to ignore some and observe the commandments of men in New York.

One interesting fact is that before the introduction of jesus and the bible to africa, people were more god-fearing than now. Jesus has simply make them believe that you can steal, lie, cheat and do all sort of things and have no problem if only you accept that he is the son of God.

Aemmyjah:
Ok na
What falsehood?
That you exist in every planet?
That watching porn is best for you?
That Bible is White man's book?

Where's the Truth you've found yourself?
Yet to went to eat of the emblems... maybe food no de your house
You're lost

Your name is sorry

start reading your bible without the use of watchtower so that your eyes will be cleared. every true christian partakes of the communion!

Ignoring christian baptism to follow anthony moris teaching is what you are doing

MaxInDHouse:
My brother there's no doubt the young man is gradually running mad but since it's just to sit down in a corner typing something each time people see him they won't know what is happening to his brain.
Please check all his threads and try to figure out his mission!

mr max the thing don pain you abi? Sory ya! It's not my fault that you were not worthy. Stop sinning. May be, just may be o, next year i will see if we can allow you to partake, that is if you refrain from sin.

Aemmyjah:
His case is fearful
Really fearful honestly

You are just a novice in that society. Read your bible very well and know that the communion bread and wine used by jesus and the early apostles actually became jesus flesh and blood. It's nothing close to dangote flour that you use today. Stop following people who don't know what spirit is. All of you jw are just canal fellows devoid of spiritual knowledge. I can bet that a bird knows God more than a jw.

MaxInDHouse:
My brother there's no doubt the young man is gradually running mad but since it's just to sit down in a corner typing something each time people see him they won't know what is happening to his brain.
Please check all his threads and try to figure out his mission!

A person who believes that a loaf of ungisted bread makes one run mad is actually the one in his right sense? Let's clap for him.

MaxInDHouse:
Most of them do run mad if something is not done quickly to save them, you know sometimes people just feel like seeing things for themselves after all it's just what is written in a book so they feel it's nothing serious!

Do you think someone typing all these is still in his right senses?

After the memorial the bread is usually thrown away and dogs eat them. Non of the dogs has ever drop death

Aemmyjah:
I don't believe he is telling the truth
What I've heard about those who presumptuously partook of the emblem is not funny at all... Some almost immediately and some happened later

The Great Insanity Peddler knows how to push people to their limits

If we're falsehood, what will push him to go partake of the emblems?

that was why peter and the other apostles became mad.

Aemmyjah:
The videos we watch at our theocratic events help us draw closer to God, build our faith, gain encouragement, build stronger relationships with others, and sharpen our skills in the ministry as well as how our brothers are doing in other lands

But to a pervert like you, watching porn is better
If I may ask, be sincere with me. What got you dis fellowshipped?

wrong! You are wrong! I wasn't disfellowshiped. I walked away from your falsehood. Your fickle elders hav been trying to reindoctrinate me but they can't. I've past that stage