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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 1:16pm On Jul 22, 2025
Olowunl01:
This is the crux of the matter, and the focus on Lagos, Abuja. It is very doable outside your Highbrow Lagos & Abuja environment. Apart from first class kings and a handful of Kings, Majority of these Naija King's aint rolling in billions.

Putting N2B on TBills means you collecting over $200k to spend yearly which should cover 1st/Biz class foreign travels and expenses. You can live like a king
🤝
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 12:16pm On Jul 22, 2025
BlueRayDick:
Lmao. He say I dey shift goal post, I only repeated what u said and tried to paint a vivid picture of some of the things u referred to as "king's lifestyle in ur previous post. I wanted him to be sure he knows the value of those things in monetary terms and not just assuming "e no no supposed pass xxxxx million naira"

As for u, I have no time to waste trying to show u how impossible ur fantasy is.

One thing u should know if u dey see money like u claim is that most of the people u see "Living like kings" are actually worth more than the $2m u are referring to.

U may know this and refuse to accept in order to save face, but it is what it is.
The issue with you is that you view everything through a Lagos lens, as if Lagos defines the entire Nigerian experience.

I know plenty of people living that kind of lifestyle. Some might be worth more than $2M, sure, but many of them aren't even close to that figure. Even my own dad, back in the day, had a convoy with security guards in their own vehicle following him around, and he wasn’t even worth $300K.

Just because certain things aren’t common in Lagos doesn’t mean they don’t happen elsewhere. Nigeria is bigger than one city, and the cost of influence or perceived “elite” status isn’t uniform across the country.

Let’s be honest, we’re probably never going to agree, because we’re clearly speaking from two very different realities. And that’s fine. But at least acknowledge that your experience isn’t the national standard.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 11:50am On Jul 22, 2025
BlueRayDick:
He simply said "With $2m in Nigeria you can live the sort of life people worth $200m in the US are living.". To me this means the person is worth $2m in assets, cash at hand and in goodwill.

So u are saying a person worth $2m will live in a mansion(The value of which is inclusive in the $2m), he will own at least one luxury vehicle , have at least two security pickup trucks, have at least 8 security officers in his security details, will be able to fly anywhere anytime , buy VIP treatment for himself anywhere he finds himself ,etc all inside his networth of $2m?

Pray tell, which commercial city in Nigeria will he be able to achieve all of these?
He answered your question directly, and now you're trying to shift the goalpost.

The truth is simple, with $2M, you can achieve everything mentioned there in most parts of this country.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 11:31am On Jul 22, 2025
If you claim that someone can’t be seen as elite or live like a king just because they don’t live in Ikoyi or Banana Island, then let’s also agree that people living in Ikoyi are nobodies once they step into places like Florida or New York, because out there, no one cares who they are.

Even Raumdeuter admitted that Arthur Eze is considered elite and treated like a king here in Nigeria. But let him land in New York, no fanfare, no red carpet, just another man on the street. That’s because living like a king is subjective. It depends on context, not location. There’s no one-size-fits-all standard for it.

You don’t have to live in Ikoyi to be considered important. My uncle is a literal king, a traditional ruler. He’s my grandmother’s brother/sibling . He doesn’t live in Ikoyi, but does that mean the staff the state government gave him is suddenly invalid? Is he no longer a king because his address isn’t in Lagos?

Nigeria doesn’t begin or end in Lagos. With $2m, you can live like royalty in many parts of this country. In places outside Lagos, #3.5 billion isn’t just wealth, it’s dominance. That’s more than enough to build legacy, influence, and real power.

Let’s stop measuring success by postcode.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 11:17am On Jul 22, 2025
Godx:
Some posters on nairaland are really detached from reality and are so obsessed with Lagos this and Lagos that. Folks are actually here arguing that 3.5billion wont make one live like Elon musk in a country where the minimum wage is 75k. Some of you need to actually visit other parts of the country.
They know what they're doing. cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 11:10am On Jul 22, 2025
$2M is “small money”? Okay, cool. But let’s not forget the federal government constantly begs for aid from foreign countries, and many of those aids don’t even hit $2M. Yet we’re here downplaying it like it’s lunch money.

Let’s not kid ourselves. Give your state governor #200 million and watch if he won’t personally call to thank you. But sure, according to this thread, everyone’s a dollar multi millionaire. No wahala. Let’s keep the cruise going. Lol. smiley
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 11:04am On Jul 22, 2025
donjazzet:
You guys are not getting his point. Maybe it's because he's using the dollar figure.
$2m is approximately 3.5 billion naira. That is indeed enough to guarantee you the life of a king in Nigeria. You can build a correct mansion with like 400 million naira in the lesser high brow and enough to maintain your wealth while being able to afford premium healthcare in Nigeria.

Yeah his comparison with that of $200m is far fetched. But the main point stands that the lifestyle of 3.5 billion naira is better in our own dysfunctional society to it's equivalent in the USA where you're still very much in check by the society.
You're one of the few who actually understood the core of the argument. It’s not about converting dollars and comparing bank balances, it’s about quality of life relative to environment. #3.5 billion here puts you in a different league entirely. Thanks for breaking it down clearly. Much appreciated. 🤝
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 11:01am On Jul 22, 2025
Melvyn11:
Just few months back the argument was 95% of Nigerians won't see up to 160million in their lifetime now we are seeing 2million dollars won't make you live a lavish lifestyles in this same country. grin
It’s honestly surprising. In a country where the federal government itself admitted that 90% of the population don’t even have #500K in their bank accounts, some people are trying to argue that $2m (#3.6 billion) isn’t a big deal?

No matter how they spin it, that kind of money is more than enough to live like a king in Nigeria. You don’t need to live in Ikoyi or Banana Island to live well. Comfort, security, respect, and influence are all easily within reach. In a country where poverty is the norm, $2M doesn’t just set you apart, it puts you in a completely different league if you know how to use money.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 3:38am On Jul 22, 2025
raumdeuter:
You think if you have $200m cash in America you are a small boy by any definition? where the average annual salary is $50k
With $200m cash you can do most things the elites can do
Nobody said $200m makes you a small boy in the US, of course not. All I said is that the lifestyle you can live with $2m in Nigeria can mirror that of someone with $200m in the US. Not in terms of net worth, but in terms of access, comfort, and power relative to your environment.

You’re talking about averages, but in Naija, even #50m puts you ahead of 99% of people. Now imagine having $2m cash here. You’ll move like royalty, command respect, and enjoy luxuries most Nigerians will never taste.

So again, it’s not about raw figures, it’s about what those figures translate to within the context of your society.
Goodnight.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 2:36am On Jul 22, 2025
raumdeuter:
You are the one changing the premise now. The chart you showed initially was talking about networth not spending money

If you already have all the major asset and just $2m is for blowing surely you have no problem. The purpose of money is to buy comfort in the first place now you are saying if you have all the comfort

Let me also ask you suppose I am in US and I already have a property like Mar a lago, more in Manhattan and LA, then a private jet, yatch, boats, private jets, vacations and luxury now boom with 200m extra

An elite does not have to live in Ikoyi Lekki etc out of personal preference but his networth will show he can afford to live there comfortably, IBB, Dantata etc dont live in Ikoyi or Lekki but have enough money to buy entire streets in those highbrow areas

You argument is that $2m puts you among the elites in Nigeria and I say it doesnt because the assets that make you an elite cant be bought with $2m
You're mixing up net worth with lifestyle access.

I never said $2M buys you the same assets as the billionaires or political powerbrokers in Nigeria, clearly , it doesn’t. But let’s be honest if you have $2M cash in this country, you’re still sitting far above 95% of the population. Whether you like it or not, that already places you in elite territory, not by Forbes standards, but by Nigerian reality.

You may not own oil blocks or a Banana Island estate, but you can afford luxury living, top-tier healthcare, international travel, security, private schooling for your kids, and still have investments running. In a country where most people are just trying to survive daily, that’s not average, that’s elite.

Not all elites are billionaires. Some just have enough to live comfortably, securely, and with influence, and $2M gives you that in Nigeria. You don’t need to own half of Lagos to be in a class far above the rest.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 2:21am On Jul 22, 2025
raumdeuter:
This person you are talking about probably has enough money to buy multiple properties in prime areas of Lagos, he probably owns properties in those prime areas but choose to live in his home state. Are you saying this person that can dash out 100m, 200m to people is only operating on $2m

This your $2m elite, how much is the worth of his house he lives, How much do u think they spent on their numerous vehicles? How much do you think he spends on his gadgets, vacations and travels, his staff and running his house

I await answers to these questions first for us to proceed with how far the $2m will go
I never said he’s worth $2m, I’m not his accountant. My point was simple: saying someone isn’t elite just because they don’t live in some high brow area in Lagos is flawed thinking. Living in Lekki Phase 1, Banana Island, or Ikoyi isn’t the only metric for elite status, there’s way more to it.

And let’s be real, $2m might not be a big deal in the US, but neither of us can sit here and say that kind of money won’t make you live like royalty in Nigeria. You’ve been arguing like the $2m is meant to buy you a house, cars, and set up your entire life from scratch.

Flip it, imagine you already have the basics: properties, cars, comfort… then boom, you get an extra $2m. Unless you’re clueless with money, that’s enough to live large almost anywhere in Naija. And if you’ve got sense and the right links, you’ll multiply it, simple.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 1:47am On Jul 22, 2025
TemporaryHansel:
Btw, Raumdeuter, are you seriously saying living in Lagos is what makes someone "elite"? So if I’ve got $10m but decide to stay in PH or Enugu, I’m suddenly not elite? Does Arthur Eze live in Ikoyi? Let’ not be ridiculous.
Raumdeuter just reminded me of someone. There’s this billionaire in my LGA in Delta, man regularly doles out 100m, 200m, even 300m gifts to people like it’s nothing. Any party he shows up at, the host gets at least 20m. On his last birthday, both sitting and former governors publicly wished him well.

Now tell me, will you say that kind of person isn’t elite just because he chooses to live in a small town, even though he could easily buy a 1bn mansion in Banana Island if he wanted?

Bro, being elite isn’t about living in Lagos. Let’s not twist things. Real elite status is about money, influence, and the kind of respect that moves power. This guy lives in a quiet town, but if he calls the governor, his call goes through instantly. The current senator? He put him there.

if that’s not elite, then what exactly is your definition?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 1:30am On Jul 22, 2025
Btw, Raumdeuter, are you seriously saying living in Lagos is what makes someone "elite"? So if I’ve got $10m but decide to stay in PH or Enugu, I’m suddenly not elite? Does Arthur Eze live in Ikoyi? Let’ not be ridiculous.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 1:25am On Jul 22, 2025
raumdeuter:
What part of Lagos will this $2m big boy be living since he cannot live in Ikoyi, Banana Island, Asokoro and Lekki phase 1?
Are you actually called a Nigerian elite if you cant afford to live in these areas

You will be able to oppress people more surely but when the elites of Lagos dey do roll call, you will have to hide your face sha
What do you mean he can't afford to live in Lekki Phase 1? I know people living there who aren’t even worth $500k, talk less of $2m.
Let’s not act like everyone in Lekki is worth $200m.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 12:19am On Jul 22, 2025
BlueRayDick:
Don't be deceived $200m in the US gives u everything u want to get in terms of comfort, power, Prestige and class. It offers much more than $2m will ever do for u in Nigeria...

The only mistake u are making is thinking sycophants waiting on you because u have $2m is. Flex in Nigeria ; no it's not. You have an illusion about the show off culture of we Africans, so it makes u think the person with $2m is actually getting to live his best life in Nigeria. He's certainly not.

Do u even know much they sell lands/properties in places like Ikoyi and banana Island?

Attached is a property for sale in Banana Island ; remove Ur almighty $2m inside the price and tell me how much remain to live that royalty lifestyle u are craving
No one’s denying that $200M in the US gives you everything, real power, global access, generational wealth, and a kind of freedom most people never touch. That’s not in question.

But you keep missing the main point, it’s not about comparing dollars directly, obviously, $2M can’t do what $200M can anywhere. The point is that $2M in Nigeria can functionally give you the kind of lifestyle and social weight $200M gives in the U.S. Context matters, bro.

Let’s not forget that with $2M, you’re already richer than 95% of the entire country. You’re not middle class, you’re elite. You can own property, have a fleet of staff, ride with personal security, and move through society with power and respect. People don’t treat you like some regular rich guy, they treat you like a god. And no, it’s not just sycophants, it’s influence, access, and privilege.

Yes, land in Ikoyi or Banana Island is overpriced, but you don’t have to buy there to live extremely well. Meanwhile, in the U.S., $2M barely gets you a decent home in a major city, no driver, no personal security , no real social pull, just structure and peace of mind.

So again it’s not about who has more money. It’s about how far the money goes in its environment.. $200M is global-level wealth, no one’s arguing that. But $2M in Nigeria, if used wisely, gives you serious lifestyle leverage and power, the kind most people will never experience, even in the West.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 11:55pm On Jul 21, 2025
BlueRayDick:
None of what you've written here has proven that having $2m in Nigeria means u will be able to live the life people with $200m in the US are living.

Firstly I think u have a numbers problem and u don't seem to know the actual worth of the $198m difference in real life (whether in the US or Nigeria)


A whole lot of top elite retired and current footballers are not even worth up to $200m and they live far far better than anybody who has $2m in Nigeria. Before u do half of what you mentioned up there sef in this naija, that Ur $2m go Don vanish.

Do u know how much they sell private jet? Do you know much u will be paying for parking Ur private jet at the hanger in the airport? All those VIp treatment u are dreaming of sef, before u know it Ur $2m go Don vanish and the person with $200m go still dey ball even with the heavy taxes.
You're missing the point. The comparison was about lifestyle feel, not raw financial power.

Of course, $200M is a whole different league, jets, sports teams, generational wealth, no argument there. But what I'm saying is in Nigeria, $2M feels and functions like $200M does in the US.
You live large, people treat you like royalty, and you get access, comfort, and power in ways that even $10M in the US won’t buy you.

Can you buy a private jet with $2M? No. But do you need one to live like a king here? Also no. You can rent one, move around like a boss, own top-tier property, have a full staff, and still be the biggest man in most rooms, all without being anywhere near $200M rich.

So again, it's not about the dollar-to-dollar comparison. It's about impact per dollar in context.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 11:25pm On Jul 21, 2025
BlueRayDick:
How?
Here in Nigeria, $2 million puts you in god mode. You’re hiring staff, living in a mansion in a high brow area, riding in a convoy with drivers, security, and assistants. You eat at the “best” places, travel when you want, get VIP treatment everywhere, and flex on half the country without breaking a sweat.

Meanwhile, in the US, $200m still comes with rules. Taxes will eat a chunk. Labor is expensive. Luxury has boundaries. Privacy is respected, and they don't worship money excessively the way we do here.You’re rich, yes, but you’re not royalty.

Here, wealth bends the system in your favor. In the US, wealth still follows the system. That’s the difference. So yeah, $2M in Nigeria can move as loud as $200m in the US, because here, money doesn’t just buy comfort, it buys power, attention, and untouchability (It all depends on if you know how to use the money though. Like I always say, having money and knowing how to use it are two completely different things. Some people have money, but no sense of how to make it work for them.)
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 10:30pm On Jul 21, 2025
Hmmm. With $2m in Nigeria you can live the sort of life people worth $200m in the US are living.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TemporaryHansel(m): 8:58pm On Jul 21, 2025
airmark:
You no see Dollar sign for the 2k? Why will I wait for a year because of his #2k?
I was surprised when I saw you take up the bet on the Chelsea thread. I was like what do you want to do with #2k.
I'm not sure he'll reply you now. E be like na broke people full man u. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 8:33pm On Jul 21, 2025
These cornvicts can no longer hold the fort so they are inviting more cornrades to come and support them.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 8:30pm On Jul 21, 2025
Theflint1:
He's a full-blown cornvict, playing neutral just happens to be his self-appointed role in the cult. We have quite a few of them like that.
They know themselves.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m):
Roland17:
@A40,
Your boy paid like we predicted. Hopefully, this experience has sharpened (pun intended) his brain.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/articles/shannon-sharpe-settles-rape-lawsuit-174750593.html
Some men no dey try sha. Weytin he dey see for 20 year old girl body? I no know weytin some men Dey like for all these small girls.

He better give himself brain, if not, it's only a matter of time before his love for young fishes put him in serious trouble. Especially considering the environment he resides.
Jobs/VacanciesRe: No Job, No Marriage And No Child At 40. What Next? by TemporaryHansel(m): 5:55pm On Jul 21, 2025
Y'all need to stop creating this type of threads. By doing this, you're indirectly putting pressure on people in those categories.
There's no crime in being unmarried or childless at 40. There are reasons behind everything, don't judge people or make assumptions without knowing why they took certain decisions.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 5:44pm On Jul 21, 2025
BlueRayDick:
grin grin grin

Chop am, no be poison!
grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 5:41pm On Jul 21, 2025
airmark:
You didn't raise any point that's worthy of a response that I ignored.
Maybe they'll pay you the money kano state government owes you when you show them how hard you've been defending the failure of the Apc led government on this site. It all makes sense now.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 5:25pm On Jul 21, 2025
airmark:
You saw when I posted that I wasn't impressed with the Insecurity but the other positives must never be pointed out, to be in your good books, right?
How do you feel comfortable always defending the Apc led government?
How about you respond to the points I raised and stop deviating? Or did they instruct y'all to deviate instead of answering questions about this government with true facts in the WhatsApp groups where y'all converge?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 1:33pm On Jul 21, 2025
airmark:
Always barking up the wrong tree.

Was it Tinubu that made the LGAs not to open CBN accounts? Are you aware that some Governors colluded with these Chairmen not to do the needful and made the FG to continue paying to the state coffers?

I hope you know some LGAs are getting theirs directly as we speak. I know your Atiku wouldn't have allowed them the autonomy.
Who took the case to the Supreme Court? It was fg that instituted the case, not the Lgas.
Fg should pursue full implementation.

Why did they bother going through all that stress if they never wanted to fully implement it?
How about they do the needful and stop giving phantom excuses about governors colliding with the Lga chairman and chairwomen?

The federal government holds all the cards here. Any card the governors and anybody else are playing, is because Fg allowed them to.

You claim to be neutral, but it is clear to any sane person that you are not neutral at all. You know what you're doing. Just continue.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 9:17am On Jul 21, 2025
airmark:
Local government is the closest government to the people and it's important that they are well-funded.

Any President that does what Tinubu did for the LGAs, means well for the populace. The issue now is for those at that level to perform. That's one of the reasons I haven't given up on Tinubu.

Elsewhere, a Governor stylishly scrapped the LGAs by not conducting elections for 7+ years. You won't see me clapping for such leader, let alone supporting him for the highest position in the country.
One year after the Supreme Court made that judgment, it is yet to be implemented. As of today, the federal government still pays money meant for lgas to the Governors not to the Lga accounts directly. Tinubu is a fraud. What are you guys celebrating for when he can't implement it?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 6:32pm On Jul 20, 2025
Semid4lyfe please help me restore my previous comment.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 5:59pm On Jul 20, 2025
Emaprince:
He didnt pull anything actually.

He deactivated out of anger...and the super mod at that time, mukina, who was close friends with lots of the cornvicts on this thread, reinstated his moniker.

The cornvicts who have been members since the early days of Nairaland are the ones that made mukina do it.
The Gallon D’or himself is easily one of the most spineless men I’ve ever seen on social media. Always quick to pick fights with people he clearly can’t match in banter. And he’s a certified bandwagon merchant, the moment he sees others doing A, he jumps in without thinking.

He’ll start throwing shots unprovoked, but once you have his time and give him the attention he seeks, he’ll either deactivate, block you, or go crying to the mods. Classic loudmouth with a glass chin.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 3:19pm On Jul 20, 2025
LordAdam16:
It is not a bubble.
Prices will keep rising beyond 2030.

-Lord
Saying “it’s not a bubble” just because prices keep rising isn’t a valid argument. Prices can go up and still be irrational, that’s literally how bubbles form. Demand driven by hype, status, and speculation, not real value or infrastructure.
If you think prices will just keep rising forever in a country where basic services are unreliable, inflation is wild, and income levels don’t match property costs then that is exactly how a bubble looks before it bursts.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 2:32pm On Jul 20, 2025
Theflint1:
I agree that based on intrinsic value, properties in Lagos are overpriced, but it's not always about intrinsic value, Lagos is a small city with a very high population, and that can create a situation where demand outstrips supply, and it's only normal the market reacts accordingly.

Maybe the Lagos real estate market is a bubble, and if that's the case we only need wait.
Yeah, the Lagos real estate market is a bubble, and I believe it'll pop in the coming years, not far off from now. I predict between 2028-2029.
The winner of the 2027 will change a lot on the outlook of the country. The person announced will determine if the country will fall to the abyss slower or faster/immediately. It'll be the last stand.

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