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izzou:
This is obviously the part that Larride should be referring to.

The Itsekiri have made Warri their own property, when they have less than 50% as theirs. Majority of Warri is still for the Urhobos, but Itsekiri parades their ruler as the head of Warri.

It's really crazy.

izzou:
Remove Isoko from your list.

How will the others unite against Urhobos without going against themselves?

Maybe they are not doing out of altruism, but compared to others, they have been better

Ijaws and itsekiri don't even like themselves like that. They're just tolerating each other.

livelongprospa:
What are you saying?
Why then did the ijaws not wipe them during the crisis?
Why not consider that the isokos won't go against them?
The only problem Urhobo people have is the fight between their men and women.
But when it comes to peaceful coexistence, those guys have been far too kind to the point they've allowed the influence of olu of warri extend way beyond his boundary.

The itshekiri part of warri that the olu of "warri" presides over is less than 30% sef. 70% of warri belongs to Urhobo, and yet the ruler of only 30% bears olu of "warri".

Ibime:
Why won't they be very fair

They are only majority in Delta but very small compared to Igbos and Ijaws nationally so they have to move with sense. And they are not even that outsized compared to the others. Any combination of Anioma, Ijaw, Itsekiri, Isoko will outnumber them. So they are not doing it out of altruism.

Isoko and Urhobo are literally the same people. Classifying them differently was a mistake. There might be little difference in the language just like abia and ebonyi igbo are a little bit different but still igbo.

If urhobos and isokos collabo they can pull off what ikwerres are doing in rivers state and just rotate major leadership positions among themselves and nothing will happen. They can elect themselves continuously without the other tribes.

The urhobos have been fair, don't mistake it for weakness, attributing this to ijaws having more population nationally is funny and unnecessary boisterousness.

What will the ijaws in bayelsa or rivers do if the ijaws in Delta are systematically excluded from all positions in Delta? Nothing.

This was how you guys were making noise about the fubara and wike situation now your wings have been clipped once more. E go hard for any ijaw person to smell governorship for rivers state again.

Roland17:
You are 100% correct.

Bulk implies he shoulders a bigger share of the responsibility. It has made it easy for some of his supporters to use words like "delegate" to shift the blame or drag others alongside his failure with securing the country. Buck on the other hands leaves no room for him nor his supporters to defer, shift or drag others along.

Again, I am unsure if it was intentional or a misuse/ misspelling of the word "Buck".

Knowing the person involved here, it could've been intentional. I've to admit that the Tinubu of 12 years ago was extremely smart and sly.

I've said it before that if all Nigerian families are mandated to do DNA test today, over 70% of all families in the country would collapse. The level of paternity fraud that has being going on low-key in this country is staggering.

Roland17:
I don't even know if Asiwaju mean to say "The buck stops at" and not "bulk".

Don't get me wrong, bulk works just fine but has a different implication in comparison to buck.

Bulk give room for excuse, but "buck" mean the president has no excuse at all. I could be wrong, but this is my own interpretation of the issue without looking at Google.

izzou:
Very correct!

Those guys have been very fair to the others.

Richest and also the majority but they've been extremely fair. Anybody saying otherwise is probably joking.

We see what ikwerres are doing in rivers state and the igalas in kogi, the tiv in benue etc... countless examples.

raumdeuter:
Is that not what we are facing in Southern Nigeria today? People in the South too enjoyed prosperity and peace for some time. What we are facing today in the South, they have been facing this in the North for about 15-20yrs

The North neglected developing their states an right now, the children they refused to develop has made sure those in the South cannot sleep because human will always move t prosperous areas

HDI will always trump GDP and other development indexes. No matter how high the GDP of a country is if the citizens aren't developed it's all a waste. See mexico with high GDP but extremely poor HDI. Same issue with African countries.

Disstroy always talked about this back in the day. I rate HDI more than GDP and GNI.

Urhobo is the majority ethnic group in Delta but they don't abuse that privilege like most majority ethnic groups do in other states in the country. Rather it is other ethnic groups that sometimes want to fvck with them.

livelongprospa:
Urhobo has been trying to what?

The things you read on nairaland.

chrisooblog:
Tinubu being voted out like you said isn't the issue but who takes over.

Bad as PBAT has been for some critical areas, at least the economic reforms has laid a foundation that a reasonable person should build on.

Yeah. Those economic reforms are critical for the continued existence of the entity called Nigeria if not we were headed the Argentina and Zimbabwe route.

raumdeuter:
You have finally seen the light, Hopefully my brother spy360 will also see the light

Only issue is someone else coming in when he leaves and reversing all his policies. We saw it happen when yaradua reversed major policies made during the obj administration, which assuming those policies were left in place, Nigeria's trajectory might have been different compared to now.

That is the problem we have at the federal level and in most states, lack of continuity. That is why Lagos has an edge over every other state because almost every gov has to follow the same blueprint. If we had that at the federal level, shit might've been different.

Theflint1:
Blaming Lord Lugard for all or 90% of the woes that the Nigerian state suffer today is simplistic.

Yes, the zoo should sooner be balkanized, but Lord Lugard is not why states as large as most countries in Europe and that share a similar identity can't come together to agree on a path forward for their states.

Lord Lugard is not why we have a D7 governor in Edo State, nor is he responsible for the years of misgovernance that the state has suffered. If there cannot be an elite consensus at state-level on how to make life better for the majority today and generations down the road, then we have a bigger problem than Lord Lugard who almagamated Nigeria over 100 years ago.

Both of you are right, two truths can coexist.. Lord lugard fvcked up by joining different tribes that previously had nothing in common together but Lord lugard isn't the cause of the current mess Nigeria is in.

Lord Lugard didn't tell voters in Anambra to sell their votes for #2500 and malt during the governorship election in Anambra last year, neither did he tell edo people to elect a stark illiterate as governor.

Even if Nigeria is balkanized, there's a possibility of the emerging countries becoming failed states within a decade or two. Infact that possibility is over 60%.

Look at Catalonia in Spain, if they're allowed to go, everyone knows they'll be prosperous because they've shown workings and the ability, but none of these Nigerian states/region have shown that they'll be able to do anything different when they're on their own. It's still massive looting and focus on misplaced priorities that will continue to be the order of the day.

LCling:
All I can see is foreign powers in name of shareholders in these tech startup which have mastercard and Visa which have link to venture capital and blackrock trying to muscle out interswitch the only local player for final monopoly and dominance. Even PayPal is back the global world war and order system is already ongoing in Africa and Nigeria is central

You hit the nail on the head. This is exactly what is happening.

They should compete with inter switch instead of trying to bring interswitch down. Interswitch flew so these ones could walk. They delivered Nigerians when no one else would, no Nigerian government will be stupid enough to implement such lopsided demands.

If their offerings are better, customers will choose them over interswitch systems. You can't force people to use your platform.

nihilistjnr:
Well, that's the game that has to be played even by good actors. Which makes it worse when bad actors like Tinubu get into the system
The structure does not incentivise continuity, does not incentivise nation building, does not incentivise long term planning, and does not incentivise finding like minded partners.

It starts with north Vs south, Christian Vs Muslim, then sub-regional rotation. Obi's travails are the perfect microcosm of the irredeemable flaws of the system - at some point Obi was even promising to do only ONE term to try and garner support NOT with the electorate but within the political system.

There's no hope

It's a tragedy. Nigeria can never move forward due to these factors.

nihilistjnr:
Again India is 80% Hindu - speaking the same language, having the same culture, and the same religion. The ethnicities that wanted to go left. Pakistan left India, and then Bangladesh left Pakistan. Sri Lanka was carved out before them.

You cannot hold leaders accountable when the primary driver for leaders actions is political survival in a representative democracy.

Leaders cannot even form parties with ideals because the first thing required to get into power is to get numbers. That's why we have so many alphabets in our political space and why many politicians have moved between almost all the parties and why Obi has tried to get presidential ticket in two different parties in a year, after contesting for tickets in 2 other parties in the last election cycle.

The system is the primary problem. It is like 90% of the problem in my opinion sef.

One thing we always agree on other than Nigeria should be divided, is that Peter Obi is a fraud. I wonder if his supporters are under voodoo.

Someone that was arresting protesters and failed to pay pensions and salaries during his time as governor.
The agulu fraudster will never become president of this country.

Let's give Tinubu more time. I believe his policies are what Nigeria needs. They'll be better for the country in the long run.

To be fair, there are certain policies that takes decades to start showing effect, if we can hold on, the gains will be tremendous.
When Mao started his reforms in China the general populace hated him for it, today those policies have borne fruit. Nigeria was running a heavy deficit before Tinubu came onboard.

A40:
Are you an Atiku man? It's OK to admit oh

Now I don't agree with this North and South business either but for the sake of parity that's the best arrangement for now.

The issue is why is he contesting in a period that should be the South's turn. This is the same guy that betrayed GEJ and allowed this APC monster to clutch to power to begin with. And for that alone I would rather Tinubu win than for Atiku to smell Aso Rock

He has never fought fair and his selfishness I find off putting. Obasanjo saw that and refused to endorse him at every turn which is highly unusual anywhere in the world cos most Presidents back their vice to continue from where they stopped

I agree with you my bro. Tinubu should continue.
Tinubu till 2031.

Segedinho:
Atiku might be worse than Tinubu.

The man has been investing since 1993 ..wetin make u think say him mo go 1st recoup him investment then proceed to profit

No problem, let's continue with Tinubu. One love.

Ellexy:
Lol clearly you're the emotional one here. Why are you angry that Obi is contesting when it's clearly the turn of the South? Can't your greedy mumutiku support a Southern candidate and take over 4 years later...and make sure you tell your selfish boss to choose a Northern running mate since he doesn't care or believe in zoning.

Alright man.

Ellexy:
Why won't Atiku support Obi since it's the turn of the South? If he truly cared about Nigeria that is what he should have done.

This your emotional south and north politics is what will hand the next year election to Tinubu before 3pm once more. Anybody that has the means should better start perfecting their japa plans because the wailing go loud because there's no way someone that is this terrible in first term when he still need votes won't be a disaster in his final term when he no longer need votes.

Complain about Tinubu today, tomorrow insinuate that he should continue because of emotional politics, next tomorrow wail about his policies and governance style.

Clowns.

Sportsweb:
Had Atiku agreed that he was failure and back Obi, we wouldn't be here today

Ok. Enjoy your Tinubu.

Mariangeles:
What does perfectly boiled eggs look like to you?
How do you like your boiled eggs?

I usually cook mine for 10mins, because I like them soft boiled

What about you?
How long do you cook your eggs?

30 minutes.

superintendents:
Honestly presidential candidates are way too much for free and fair election.

Every Tom and Harry want to be president

Some of them already said they prefer Tinubu to continue.

Today they complain about Tinubu. The next day they say they prefer for him to continue.

I've never seen people this confused in my life.

Had Peter Obi agreed to run with Atiku in 2023 we wouldn't be dealing with this failure right now.

Irrespective of how emotional anyone gets about this, neither Atiku or Obi can defeat an incumbent Tinubu alone. 2023 will repeat itself next year because of pride and emotional politics.

These days you have to mute anything "Nigeria" if you don't want to see gory images and heartbreaking stuffs.

Nigeria is lowkey turning into Chad and Mali before our eyes in regards to insecurity.

afrodoc:
Lack of will power. Corrupt and compromised security services etc.

With regards to the specific case of uploading videos, the ones uploading it do not have to be in the forest with them. The video can be sent privately to an accomplice in Lagos, Kano, or Accra who then uploads it.

That does not mean the security services should not be employing other measures to locate and capture them.

Anybody physically in Nigeria can be tracked by DSS/SSS. Forget story.

Any insecurity that last more than a month the government is benefiting from it.

donjazzet:
There is no denying that Obi is a behemoth. The minute he joined NDC, it became a force to be reckoned with. The names I'm seeing that have joined is just astonishing.
Atiku really f'd up big time. He should have supported Obi in ADC.

Supported him how?

The reforms introduced by this administration are actually on point, what they have a problem with is implementation. They're not implementing them properly, and there's too much propaganda at work to the extent you cannot even believe a single word any government institution says.

I'm happy for the existence of platforms such as this that we can say our minds without fear of losing out from stuffs.