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Explore2xmore:In Islam, it there another human who did not die? If you know of any, tell me! In Christianity, it is not Jesus alone and ai gave you examples with evidences from the bible. So, in Islam Why is it that Jesus alone is alive with Allah for over 2000 years now? Explore2xmore:Are you saying that Muslims cannot be trusted with their writings!? I only reproduced your Islamic scholars, you can go fight them if you think they told lies. Apart from Mishkat al-Masabih 2341 who reported it, the hadith is also reported by other muslim scholars such as Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2499 Anas narrated that the Prophet said: "Every son of Adam sins, and the best of the sinners are the repentant." Sunan Ibn Majah 4251 It was narrated from Anas that the Messenger of Allah said: “Every son of Adam commits sin, and the best of those who commit sin are those who repent.’” If we agree that Muslims are liars, Are these other two hadiths also lies? Explore2xmore:Ask your prophet the sins of each of Abraham's sons! I know that you didn't read or your cognition is low. Please what did the scripture say about Abraham's sacrifice Gen 22:1-2 Some time later God tested Abraham. He said to him, 'Abraham!' 'Here I am,' he replied. "Then God said, 'Take your son, your only son, whom you love Isaac and go to the region of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on a mountain I will show you.'" After his obedience , the Angel of the LORD said to Abraham. Gen 22:12 Do not lay a hand on the boy," he said. "Do not do anything to him. Now I know that you fear God, because you have not withheld from me your son, your only son. It is obvious that you have nothing else of value to say. You couldn't even answer one single question! Too bad! |
Explore2xmore:All this verse has shown is that there is a BIG contradiction in the Qur'an. It is either Allah created Adam with a command or Allah created Adam with some Actions. Again Is it false that Allah created Adam with mud? Is it false that Allah created Adam with his hands? Is it false that Allah breathe his spirit into Adam? If these are false, then we can agree that Allah created Adam by a command of "BE" and Adam was! |
ceejay80s:Na God! |
yinkaOdutuyo:Depends on how bad it is. If it is not bad, yes as the baby grows the length will mask the curve. If it is bad, then the bow will still be obvious. Take him to the hospital. They would put a cast on him. But increase his calcium and phosphorus intake in food |
sonsomegrigbo:In my opinion, the four pictures look very decent. Only that before, she wore hijjab but now she doesn't. What is the problem with her new dressing? Or is it about hate! She left darkness for the Light! |
adenigga:Buhari has taught new governments this scam! SMH! |
Explore2xmore:Is this because you want me to believe that Allah created Adam with a command while EVERY evidence in the Qur'an go to the contrary. The only way out for this is to conclude that it is FALSEHOOD that Allah created Adam using the Mud and it is also a FABRICATION that Allah claimed to have created Adam with his two Hands. Is it false that Allah created Adam with mud? Is it false that Allah created Adam with his hands? Is it false that Allah breathe his spirit into Adam? If these are false, then we can agree that Allah created Adam by a command of "BE" and Adam was! Explore2xmore:I am NOT a Muslim as the question is strictly for you Muslims. Why according to Islam is Jesus the ONLY one who has not died and is with Allah according to your prophet? Explore2xmore:Doesn't your prophet agree that every son of Adam is a sinner? Mishkat al-Masabih 2341 Anas reported God’s messenger as saying, "All the sons of Adam are sinners, but the best of sinners are those who are given to repentance." Do you disagree that Isaac (Abraham's Son) is a son or descendant of Adam? Moreover, the command of sacrifice was specifically a TEST of the Love and devotion of Abraham to God. Explore2xmore:Exactly the same way interpreted that Jesus is NOT the Messiah. And they interpreted that Jesus was not born of a virgin. And they interpreted that Jesus was a sorcerer. Do you agree with them on these? Explore2xmore:Jesus is the fulfilment of the Laws and the Prophet. This is why Jesus said that He has come to COMPLETE or FULFIL the law Matthew 5:17 This was why Jesus said: Luke 24:44 "This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets, and the Psalms." Was Allah wrong when he said of Jesus that Qur'an 3:50 "And [I have come] confirming what was before me of the Torah and to make lawful for you some of what was forbidden to you. And I have come to you with a sign from your Lord, so fear Allah and obey me." Secondly, God through the prophet Isaiah speaking of the Messiah said Isaiah 53:12 "He poured out His life unto death, and was numbered with the transgressors. For He bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors." Jesus was numbered with the transgressors even though He committed no wrong. Isaiah 53:9 "He had done no violence, nor was any deceit in His mouth." 2 Corinthians 5:21: "God made Him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in Him we might become the righteousness of God." So, Jesus took up our sin as the sacrificial LAMB of God I know that one of the big differences between Allah and YHWH is that Allah enjoys people committing sin while YHWH must punish sin. It is understandable that sin is trivial with Allah but not trivial with YHWH. (Sahih Muslim, Book 37, Hadith 6622) "By Him in Whose Hand is my life, if you were not to commit sin, Allah would sweep you out of existence and replace you with people who would commit sin and seek forgiveness from Allah, and He would pardon them." Compare with, Proverbs 11:21 "Be sure of this: The sinner will not go unpunished, but those who are righteous will go free." Explore2xmore:I stated with evidence from the Bible that Jesus would be our RANSOM from the fire of Hell all I wanted to know is WHY it makes sense for Christians and Jews to be your own ransom from the fire. Does it make sense to you? Why is it that Christians and Jews will be your own ransom as Muslims from hellfire? Christians agree that everyone is liable to his sins, but the problem is that it's consequence is impossible for anyone to bear. This is why the repentant person gets from God the Father the One who can carry the justice of God on our behalf as our RANSOM from the fire (for according to God, a sinner must be punished) If your claim is that you are solely liable for your conduct, why did your prophet say: Riyad as-Salihin 432 Abu Musa Al-Ash'ari (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: Messenger of Allah said, "On the Day of Resurrection, Allah will deliver to every Muslim, a Jew or a Christian and say: 'This is your ransom from Hell-fire."' Why would Christians and Jews pay for the judgment of Fire on the Muslims? You will note that as a Christian, we don't have any problems in EXPLAINING how or why we believe the Scriptures. But not so with you Muslims. Because Islam is a randomly copied religion devoid of reasons for most of your copied actions. |
Lonestar124:Only small boys will like this your post with their mouths opened like tomato basket in awe of your distinguished wisdom. I come in peace! |
Explore2xmore:All you have successfully succeeded in doing is to assert that Allah did not create Adam by any command. We can see Allah breathing We can see Allah molding clay We cannot see Allah saying "BE!" Explore2xmore:All I ask is WHY? Why according to Islam is Jesus the ONLY one who has not died and is with Allah according to your prophet? The reason Islam does NOT have an answer is simply because Mohammed was copying from both the Jews and Christians things he never understood into both his Qur'an and his religion. Eg. What is a Spirit? Explore2xmore:Because Isaac the son of Abraham to be sacrificed was also a sinner and thus is not qualified to be a RANSOM for Abraham AND it was a TEST of Love and devotion of Abraham to God. Gen 22:1-2 Some time later God tested Abraham. He said to him, 'Abraham!' 'Here I am,' he replied. "Then God said, 'Take your son, your only son, whom you love Isaac and go to the region of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on a mountain I will show you.'" After his obedience , the Angel of the LORD said to Abraham. Gen 22:12 Do not lay a hand on the boy," he said. "Do not do anything to him. Now I know that you fear God, because you have not withheld from me your son, your only son. Jesus however is the LAMB of God that takes away the sins of the World. He can be out RANSOM because He is SINLESS and this is the method God Has designed to RANSOM those who will trust Him. John 1:29: "The next day John sees Jesus coming to him, and said, Behold the Lamb of God, which takes away the sin of the world." According to Prophet Isaiah, he said: It pleased God to make the death of Jesus as an offering for our sins because this is the essence of the Messiah! Isa 53:10: "Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he has put him to grief: when you shall make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand." Jesus explained the purpose of the Messiah being crucified to His disciples Luke 24:25-27 He said to them, "How foolish you are, and how slow to believe all that the prophets have spoken! Did not the Messiah have to suffer these things and then enter his glory?" And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he explained to them what was said in all the Scriptures concerning himself. Explore2xmore:Jesus become cursed because He carried the curse of sin of the world upon Himself. Here what prophet Isaiah said about Jesus. Isaiah 53:5-6 "But he (the Messiah) was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was on him, and by his wounds we are healed. We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to our own way; and YHWH has laid on him the iniquity of us all." Because SIN is a violation of God's integrity as God, the punishment for sin is eternal damnation. In case you don't understand, when God gives a Command, such command must NOT fail. Sin is making the Command (kunfayakun ) of God to fail. Because God is the only One Powerful enough to be able to pay for the weight of the judgement of sin for EVERYONE at His will. Nothing and No one else in the universe can carry the judgment of sin for the whole universe. John 3:16-18: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believes on him is not condemned: but he that believes not is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God." For such grievous sin to be overlooked for anyone, he must serve his punishment. Unfortunately, no one can pay for the judgment of sin. This is why God instituted the ordinance of SACRIFICE for Sin with Moses and the children of Israel. Only a Personality who has no sin must take the punishment of the person who have committed the sin. Thus the SACRIFICIAL object becomes the Ransom for the one who has committed the sin because of his faith in God's Justice for sin MUST be punished by God. Since Allah says you Muslims will enter the fire, how long do you think you will have to spend in Hell to completely pay for violation of God's INTEGRITY? Explore2xmore:Why is it that Christians and Jews will be your own ransom as Muslims from hellfire? (Note: Jesus Himself is the Ransom of a Christian from the fire) |
Explore2xmore:From the two scriptures where did you read? In Christianity, it is NOT unique that Jesus alone left this world without dying. Jesus died; isn't it. Then resurrected; isn't it? Enoch and Elijah never even died. As I have said, Enoch doesn't help your case because Jesus is NOT the only one in Christianity that wouldn't die. 1. Enoch is one who didn't see death 2. Elijah is one Elijah is another who didn't taste death 3. All Believers in Christ at His second coming The question had been: My Question was strictly about ISLAMIC teachings: 4. Why is it according to your prophet that Jesus is still alive with Allah since 2000 years ago? Can we take it that NO ANSWER exist in Islam for the question Explore2xmore:Is the Qur'an an eternal word of God when it contains stories of Mohammed and Zainab that happened in the 6th century etc? Explore2xmore:Please show me from the Arabic the word My Created Soul Why are you correcting the words of Allah? Don't you think Allah knows the difference between soul and spirit? Explore2xmore:So, your revered scholar Ibn Kathir concurs that Allah did not create many from any command. I have attached Ibn kathir's interpretation and it didn't even have the RUH not to speak of NAFS (soul). Attached. Explore2xmore:Are the power and knowledge of Allah created is the question ! I am not comparing them with man's own So again, I ask you the questions you dodged. 1. Are angels spirits? 2. Is the spirit a being OR Is the spirit an attribute? 3. Prove from the Qur'an that the spirit is created!
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P1PrinceKT:No sir. The problem was that evidences were detected by US government that China was ACTIVELY using Tiktoc to shape people's political opinion in USA and probably monitor government officials for sensitive information. The same thing with Huawei. Ticktok would be reinstated but they want to have ownership of the US servers so that China cannot access information through it. Google is not used in China nor Facebook. Banned by the Chinese government. |
Oloki:It's the same with tuwo. It scatters unless eaten hot |
Explore2xmore:Is the Word of Allah created? Explore2xmore:There is nowhere in Islam where the spirit was created. Allah created Man with mud Qur'an 38:71-72 Allah created Jinn from fire Qur'an 55:15 Allah created Angels from light Sahih Muslim 2996 Tell me, How did Allah create the spirit and with what material? Let me enlighten you with the word of Allah Qur'an 38:72 So when I have proportioned him and breathed into him of My spirit, then fall to him prostrating. Qur'an 15:29 So when I have proportioned him and breathed into him of My spirit, then fall to him prostrating. Qur'an 15:29 So when I have proportioned him and breathed into him of My spirit, then fall to him prostrating. Qur'an 32:9 Then He proportioned him and breathed into him of His spirit, and He made for you hearing, and vision, and hearts; little are you grateful. When Allah says رُّوحِي (ruhi): My spirit Or When Allah says رُوحَنَا (roohana): Our spirit Is he not speaking of his attributes? What if Allah had said: My knowledge: would it mean Allah's knowledge is created? My power: would it mean Allah's power is created? My will: would it mean that Allah's will is created? What then happens whenever Allah says My Spirit ? It's just that your Muslim scholars must rewrite the Qur'an to suit their satanic agenda of misleading Muslims. Of course, if Mohammed doesn't know what the spirit is, how can any Muslim in the world know what the spirit it? Qur'an 17:85 And they ask you about the spirit. Say, "The spirit is of the command of my Lord, and you have not been given of knowledge except a little." So again, I ask you the questions you dodged. 1. Are angels spirits? 2. Is the spirit a being OR Is the spirit an attribute? 3. Prove from the Qur'an that the spirit is created! |
Explore2xmore:Gen 5:21-24: "And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah: And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters: And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years: And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him." Heb 11:5: "By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God." Answering your question: According to the two scriptures above, Enoch did not taste death but he disappeared from the earth because God took him. As I have said, Enoch doesn't help your case because Jesus is NOT the only one in Christianity that wouldn't die. 1. Enoch is one who didn't see death 2. Elijah is one Elijah is another who didn't taste death 3. All Believers in Christ at His second coming The question had been: My Question was strictly about ISLAMIC teachings: 4. Why is it according to your prophet that Jesus is still alive with Allah since 2000 years ago? Do you have any evidence from from either Allah or Mohammed that there is another person who did not die? |
Explore2xmore:Repeating the same falsehood one million times wouldn't convert the error into the truth. Is it true that Jesus was created by Jibril blowing the RUH inside Mary's vulva? If your answer is TRUE, except Jibril's breathe is mud, then Quran 3:39 is false. Is the breathe of Jibril mud? 1. Adam was created by Allah molding Adam with mud! 2. Jesus was created by Jibril blowing into Mary's vulva! Explore2xmore:You still haven't explained exactly how Eve was created by Allah. 1. Did Allah mold clay or mud like in the creation of Adam? 2. Did Adam give birth to Eve biologically? 3. Did Allah use part of Adam to make clay? 4. Did Allah just say "BE" and Eve was? Etc. I just need a reference to HOW Eve was created. |
johnw47:Please, Withdraw from this thread sir. It is a deliberate attempt by JWs to overwhelm the religion section with posts on trinity. |
Explore2xmore:No problem, it's an honour to Adam. You just confirmed by yourself that Adam was not created by any command. Again: Adam was NOT created by a command of Allah I don't know who else according to Islam Allah create with his two hands. You tell me who else Allah created by his hands. I am not a Muslim. How did Allah create Eve in the Qur'an: please educate me? Was it also by command? But neither Adam nor Jesus was created by the command "BE"! According to Allah, 1. Adam was created by Allah molding Adam with mud! 2. Jesus was created by Jibril blowing into Mary's vulva! As you can see, Neither of Adam nor Jesus were created by any command |
Explore2xmore:Is the Word of Allah not is Attribute? So, did Allah create his word just as Allah created his power and as he created his knowledge? "A WORD" from Allah is the the identity of Jesus Messiah. The name of this WORD is Jesus, the Messiah, son of Mary! This is what Allah says. But I guess you are smarter to attempt reinterpretation of clear verses. Explore2xmore:Just tell me according to Islam of your prophet the name of another human being who is a SPIRIT from Allah? Or is Jesus the same as RUH AL-QUDUS because he is the only other spirit I know in Islam? Your prophet doesn't even know what a spirit is 1. Is the spirit a being? 2. Is the spirit an attribute? You are truely in ignorance about the spirit. Explore2xmore:There is no problem if your Idris is pious as that is not the bone of contention. His status in paradise isn't no concern as he is in the fourth heaven and there are many islamic prophets who have died but are in higher levels. Explore2xmore:I even quoted a verse for you. You didn't read it? check Gen 5:21-24 and Hebrew 11:5 check! |
But I just showed you with evidence that Allah did not create anything by a command. He either made clay or breathe into someone's vulva. Is Quran 38:75 an error? Quran 38:75 "[Allah] said, 'O Iblis, what prevented you from prostrating to that which I created with My two hands? Were you arrogant, or were you among the exalted?'" Did Allah say he created Adam with his speech? Allah clearly stated that he used his TWO hands: didn't he? Explore2xmore:Sorry 1. "Good tidings" of what please? What is the subject? 2. What would be the name of the subject in referred to 1? What is the name of this "Word" from Allah? Sorry, it is too late to rewrite the Qur'an nor the Hadiths. Just speak the truth to the question. You are at least intelligent with English comprehension. Let me help you إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ يُبَشِّرُكِ (inna Allāha yubashshiruki): Indeed, Allah gives you glad tidings بِكَلِمَةٍۢ مِّنْهُ (bikalimatin minhu): Of a Word from Him Qur'an 3:45 "Behold! The angels said, 'O Mary, indeed Allah gives you glad tidings of a Word from Him, whose name will be the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, distinguished in this world and the Hereafter and among those brought near [to Allah].'" |
owobokiri:Whenever some Pastors become Rich and Influential, they become just like any average rich Nigerian politician. Evidence of personally knowing the IG of Police! SMH! |
Explore2xmore:No sir. The Qur'an did not say "The Word from Allah" and so, it doesn't refer to Allah's ability to create anything. 1. Correction please: It is not the word FROM Allah but HIS WORD (Allah's word) cast down to Mary. كَلِمَتُهُ (Wa kalimatuhu) – "And His Word" (Alqāhā ilā Maryama) – "Which He cast to Mary" That is, Jesus Himself is The Word 2. Allah did not create everything by His word. No, Allah Did NOT Allah not create ANYTHING by his command or his word? With Jesus, Jibril or Allah BREATH of his spirit into Mary. Qur'an 66:12 "And Mary, the daughter of Imran, who guarded her vulva, so We breathed into her from Our spirit, and she believed in the words of her Lord and His scriptures and was of the devoutly obedient." Whose spirit was blown into Mary? Note that this spirit is SINGULAR and not Plural! Similarly, Qur'an 21:91 "And [mention] the one who guarded her vulva, so We breathed into her of Our spirit, and We made her and her son a sign for the worlds." So, clearly, Jesus wasn't created by a command from Allah but by BREATHING his spirit into Mary. Is breathing the same as speaking? 3. Jibril came to GIVE Jesus to Mary Quran 19:17-19 "So she took a veil (to screen herself) from them; then We sent to her Our spirit, and he appeared to her as a perfect man. She said, 'Indeed, I seek refuge in the Most Merciful from you, [so leave me], if you should be fearing Allah.' He said, 'I am only the messenger of your Lord to give you a pure boy.'" Here Jibril and not Allah came down to give Mary a boy. Except you want to concede that Jibril is one of the creators of life in Islam. 4. This is Why your prophet called Jesus by the TITLE : Kalimatullah : "The Word of Allah." Quran 4:171 "The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a spirit from Him." Musnad Ahmad, Hadith 24690 "Indeed, Jesus is the Word of Allah which He cast to Mary, and a Spirit from Him." Explore2xmore:1. Jesus having no father doesn't prove any Miracle because there was no EVIDENCE to anyone. In fact, Only Mary knows about this Miracle and God had to convince Joseph not to leave his wife. 2. Why do you think the Children of Israel did not exercise the law of Moses on Mary when she got pregnant outside wedlock and stone her to death? Explore2xmore:Think now! How can High station mean Paradise!? High station simply means a place of importance or honour amongst the prophets or an exalted position. Except you wish to concede that Allah is so poor in language that he cannot communicate clearly to his people without us fighting over what he means Explore2xmore:Allah couldn't explain a verse and Mohammed couldn't and then came Ibn Kathir almost 668 years after, armed with the elusive knowledge. Shouldn't you be ashamed? How confused Islamic scholars are: 1. Quran 19:57 Tafsir Al-Jalalayn And We raised him to a high station — he is alive in the fourth or sixth or seventh heaven or he is in Paradise into which he was admitted after he was made to experience death and brought back to life and he has not exited therefrom. This one said Idris actually died but brought back to life 2. Tafseer Tafheem-ul-Quran Syed Abu-al-A'la Maududi Qur'an 19:57 and We had raised him to a high position. The plain meaning is that God had favoured Idris with a high rank, but according to the Israelite traditions, God took up Idris ( Enoch ) to heavens. The Bible says: " ... and he was not; for God took him ", but the Talmud has a long story to tell, which ends with the words: " Enoch ascended to heaven in a whirlwind, with chariot and horses of fire. " This one gave the plain interpretation and correct but added the tradition of the Jews to it 3. Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘AbbâsQuran 19: 57 ( And We raised him to high station ) in Paradise. This one just focused on Idris state in paradise, avoiding the argument of whether he died or not 4. Ala-Maududi Qur'an 19:57 and We exalted him to a lofty position. The plain meaning is that God had favored Idris with a high rank, but according to the Israelite traditions, God took up Idris (Enoch) to heavens. The Bible says: And he was not; for God took him, but the Talmud has a long story to tell, which ends with the words: Enoch ascended to heaven in a whirlwind, with chariot and horses of fire. 5. Here is what one of your islamic scholars said ...There is a difference of opinion as to who Prophet Idris (peace be upon him) was. Some commentators opine that he was a Prophet from among the Israelites, but the majority of them are inclined to the view that he was a Prophet before Noah (peace be upon him). There is no authentic tradition which may help determine his identity. https://myislam.org/surah-maryam/ayat-56/ They don't even know who Idris was 6. Here is what another of your scholars said in Introduction to Tafheem Qur'an 19:51-57 : Towards Understanding the Quran 33. There is a difference of opinion as to who Prophet Idris (peace be upon him) was. Some commentators opine that he was a Prophet from among the Israelites, but the majority of them are inclined to the view that he was a Prophet before Noah (peace be upon him). There is no authentic tradition which may help determine his identity. .... ..(19:57) and We exalted him to a lofty position.34 34. The plain meaning is that God had favored Idris with a high rank, but according to the Israelite traditions, God took up Idris (Enoch) to heavens. The Bible says: And he was not; for God took him, but the Talmud has a long story to tell, which ends with the words: Enoch ascended to heaven in a whirlwind, with chariot and horses of fire. https://www.islamicstudies.info/tafheem.php So, you see the confused mess you found yourself in!? Without the Bible, you can't even explain your Qur'an even though Allah claimed to have given you DETAILS Quran 12:111 "It is not a fabricated statement, but a confirmation of what was before it and a detailed explanation of all things." |
Explore2xmore:In Christianity, there is nothing extraordinarily uniquely peculiar with a person not passing through death BECAUSE Jesus is NOT the only one (unlike in Islam) that would leave this world without death. Three key examples 1. Enoch: Gen 5:21-24: "And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah: And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters: And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years: And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him." 2. Elijah: 2 Kings 2:11: "As they were walking along and talking together, suddenly a chariot of fire and horses of fire appeared and separated the two of them, and Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlwind." Elijah was taken up to heaven without experiencing death. 3. All Believers in Christ at His second coming: 1Ths 4:16-17: "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord." 1 Corinthians 15:51-52: "Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all die, but we will all be changed—in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet." So, you see that in Christianity, JESUS is NOT the only person who would leave the earth without passing through death. As Christians, we are both material and immaterial beings consisting as Body, Soul and Spirit and we can be transformed directly without having to pass through death. So, this kind of transformation in Christianity is NOT unique to Jesus unlike in Islam. My Question again: 4. Why is it according to your prophet that Jesus alone is still alive with Allah since 2000 years ago? Or who else with evidence in the Qur'an or Hadith is an exception? BUT, If you think Idris is Enoch, provide evidence from Allah or Mohammed! All I need is supporting EVIDENCE from the Qur'an of Allah or the Hadiths of your prophet. Didn't Allah tell you things about Idris? Clearly you need the Bible to even make any meaning or sense out of the Qur'an of Allah! SMH! |
Explore2xmore:First admit that you don't have an answer in Islam for the question. My Question was strictly about ISLAM: 4. Why is it according to your prophet that Jesus is still alive with Allah since 2000 years ago? After this, ask me nicely for explanation from us Christians and I will gladly oblige you. For now, the question is about ISLAMIC understanding of WHY Jesus is the ONLY person alive with Allah without passing through death. In case you don't understand, in the bible, such is not unique to Jesus alone BUT This fact that someone went to Allah without passing through death in ISLAMIC doctrine is UNIQUE only to Jesus. WHY? Again My Question was strictly about ISLAM: 4. Why is it according to your prophet that Jesus is still alive with Allah since 2000 years ago? |
Explore2xmore:Is the Qur'an not in Arabic? If then, we should have Idris in the Arabic bible instead of "أخنوخ" (Akhnukh). Note that Moses wrote Enoch's name in Hebrew as חֲנוֹךְ (Ḥănōḵ). . Honestly , we wonder how Islam mixed up the simple identities with no single explanation to clarify WHY or WHEN. It is the same reason no Muslim can tell us from the Qur'an who Israel the father of the Jews is: even though the Children of Israel is mentioned several times. This is why we cringe when you say Jesus is ISA or Allah is the name of the God of Jews and Christians. This difference explain why the Islamic ISA was neither crucified nor killed. Other names exist in Islam like Jālūṭ for Goliath, Dhul-Kifl for Ezekiel Or Ṭālūt for Saul . We don't know where Mohammed got these names from. Explore2xmore:But Enoch is not IDRIS except you can show me on the contrary either from the Qur'an or from the Hadiths of your prophet Mohammad. My Question was strictly about ISLAM: 4. Why is it according to your prophet that Jesus is still alive with Allah since 2000 years ago? You need to convince me that you know someone else in Islam who is living bodily with Allah and never dead. Are you saying that there are many answers that Islam doesn't have until they rely on the Christians!? Isn't Islam sufficient by itself? |
Gabrielshow24:They don't know why Jesus is the Messiah! They don't know what the Messiah is to do! Mohammed just copied anything he fancied and put it in his new religion. We shall continue to pray for them as we educate them. |
Explore2xmore:Let's just say that you Muslims don't know why Isa or Jesus is the only human who is with Allah above the seventh heaven with Allah physically over 2000 years ago not how he even got there in the first place. I am sure that you know that the knowledge of the whereabout of Jesus came from the Christians and not Mohammed who came 700 years after. Acts 1:9-11: "And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. And while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; Which also said, You men of Galilee, why stand you gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as you have seen him go into heaven." Acts 2:32-33: "This Jesus has God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he has shed forth this, which you now see and hear." None of my questions have any theological reason in Islam. The reason is that Islam copied much of it from the Christians without knowing why. Speaking about Idris, he doesn't exist in the bible either in the old testament nor new testament. In the Qur'an, Allah never once described who Idris was and I have checked the hadiths for anything about him from Mohammed and there is not one description of such a person as Idris. It was much later in the 8th or 9th century that your scholars began to connect him with Enoch in the bible. Unfortunately, I doubt any connection between Idris and Enoch because Enoch in the Arabic bible is called "أخنوخ" (Akhnukh). Do you know the problem of Islam? It is thinking that the Qur'an is self sufficient and neglecting the command of Allah to ask questions. Qur'an 6:94 "So if you are in doubt about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you" Instead, your Islamic scholars became experts in theology and led every Muslim astray. They had to convince you that against the Qur'an, you shouldn't follow the earlier revealed scriptures. I think you should ask yourself why Jesus is so special above any human inexistence. You should also ask why the theology of Jesus is vastly different from that of Mohammed. If you truely know Jesus and you believe in Him, you will leave Mohammed guaranteed! |
deluckiest:We praise God for that. Please keep up the good job with your Wife and Family. Many men forget that they would reap whatever they have sown, good or bad. Shalom |
Edygrin:It is possible that these people are not even aware of this ! Anything goes in Nigeria! Part of the problem is when a land is sold several times already. The last buyer is the one that loses everything |
SaLongs1:No sir. IGNORANCE, LACK OF FORESIGHT and LACK OF INNOVATION with an unteachable spirit is the biggest affliction that could befall a man. |
Ndidi2:Thanks a million to sir! LOL!! |
My Question was: According to Islam, 2. Why according to your prophet that Jesus and Mary are the only humans that Satan did not touch at birth? Explore2xmore:I don't know the other names of John in the bible except you are asking for his name in Hebrew or Greek. Explore2xmore:Check the header of my Questions! It says : My Question was: [color=black]2. Why according to your prophet that Jesus and Mary are the only humans that Satan did not touch at birth? [/color] So, I asked according to ISLAM not according to the Christianity! Explore2xmore:We don't inherit Adam sin sir. :We inherit the NATURE TO COMMIT SIN! This is why we are born as sinners (people who commit sin) As an example: A piglet inherit the nature of filth from it's parent who are PIGS. As the piglet grow into a pig, he naturally begin to act filthy Jesus says, to children belong the kingdom of God and all who would be like children to God. Luke 18:15-17 But Jesus called for them and said, “Let the little children come to me, and do not stop them; for it is to such as these that the kingdom of God belongs. Truly I tell you, whoever does not receive the kingdom of God as a little child will never enter it.” Here is another massive difference between Jesus and Mohammed. Even by common sense, should babies go to hell? You did not answer my Questions: My Question was: According to Islam, 2. Why according to your prophet that Jesus and Mary are the only humans that Satan did not touch at birth? |
You didn't answer my direct question My Question was: According to Islam, 1. Why is Jesus the only One who is a Trinity of the Word of Allah, the Spirit from Allah and a Messenger of Allah? Explore2xmore:The Qur'an is utterly wrong and terribly confused over the DEFINITION of trinity sir. Let me give you a few 1. Allah and his Son but God doesn't have a son Qur'an 4:171 2. Allah is the Messiah Quran 5:17 and Qur'an 5:72 3. Allah is one out of three Qur'an 5:73 4. Allah, Mary and Jesus Qur'an 5:116 So, you can see how confused the understanding of Trinity is in the Qur'an. It is impossible to define Trinity without first stating ONENESS before Co-Existence. Explore2xmore:How did I define Trinity by what is not? When did you become a Christian to know the definition. For your information, man is also a Trinity. This is why we are created in the image of God. So, tell me what is wrong with my definition of Trinity as Trinity is simply ONE Person who co-exist in three distinct IDENTITIES. I thereafter gave you two examples of the Trinity of God and then the Trinity of Man Explore2xmore:Then what exactly is the RUH and by extension define the RUH AL-QUDUS if it is a creation of Allah and not his attribute. Is the Ruh a Jinn, an Angel, a Force, a man, a living being etc. What exactly is the RUH? Explore2xmore:1. According to Qur'an 3:45, the name of the Word of Allah is Jesus the Messiah 2. According to Qur'an 4:171, Jesus is the Word of Allah cast down to Marry Explore2xmore:Allah himself know that this is a very weak argument. If I gave my son the permission to drive my car to Lagos and he did, who drove the car? Is it me or my son? If Allah gave me the permission to eat or drink and I did, who did the eating and drinking? Allah or me? If Allah gave Jesus permission to create anything, and Jesus did, who did the creation? Allah or Jesus? Again You didn't answer my direct question My Question was: According to Islam, 1. Why is Jesus the only One who is a Trinity of the Word of Allah, the Spirit from Allah and a Messenger of Allah? |
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