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Arrewa:
I’ve never understood the wisdom of people under 40 rejoicing at the bad health or death of people over 60.

You are not sure of making it to 40, and yet think your “enemy” dying or falling sick at 70 is karma or an atonement for some sin. They’ve lived a full live, don’t you see?

If being your enemy will make me live up to 80yrs and die... Pls I want to be your enemy

Word.

joviegghead:
This guy is smart!!!
As in! True barca fans know loyalty to, and progress of the club supersedes all.
Messi tho phenomenal, has a role in Barca's problems.
If it means reducing his preferences and demands to move forward, so be it. I support giving someone else the captain's armband

Some of us have given practical examples to show that Messi's team mates have not complemented his efforts on the pitch even to a minimal degree.

In fact they have not come close to doing that compared to other big European teams which have at least 3 stars putting in top level performances concurrently.

How the biggest problem you see here remains Messi motivating the team remains a mystery to me.

The numbers are all over the place to prove that this team's reliance on Messi to deliver them game after game after game, remains criminal,

yet all that you could think about is for Messi to motivate them.

In fact if you do pay any attention to international television punditry at all during live games, you will learn that the following;

1.The first line problem of Barca is a criminal dependence on Messi to deliver on the pitch game after game after game....
2. Lack of proper coaching and team management...

The issue of captaincy and motivation or whatever is far from the biggest problem we have.

I still can't come to terms with the fact that a true Barca fan wants Messi out of the club.
That's the reason why I believe that you guys are Madrid fans in disguise.

Abi is it Messi's fat salary? Even if he leaves you still wouldn't get a cut; so what's the point?

Elineska:
Desperation is written all over Oshiomhole concerning the Edo Guber election. DSS should watch him and his goons

So desperation is not written all over Obaseki?

Barca fans have blamed everything from;

Valverde to
#passtomessi to
Setien to
The board to
Ancestors to
Motivator

BoleAndFish:
Do you think the game would have changed if you guys managed to squeeze in another goal when it was 4:2 to make it 4:3?

Agreed.

But the only problem here is; legs squeeze in goals not mouths.

pu7pl3:
Smh...it's you that still doesn't get it...

You seem to always mistaken my monicker for dickset.

It's dippset not dickset.

So get it out of your mouth for a second.

SonOfAfonja:
They’ll never get it... They hate Messi so much, they feel he has to be leading in clean sheets, aerial duels and tackles....

At this rate they are soon going to blame Messi for allowing his team mates go to the dressing room at half time.
Real soon.

FirstbornWds:
I think I get Tespidd point now. And he's right.

We need some other person to motivate to win and it really doesn't have to be Messi. But then, if he does, it is another feather to his cap.

As for the Ronaldo part, there were players stepping up for him in the international stage. Fks, he didn't even play in the final.

Thank you.

I just didn't have the words to respond to joviegghead when he said Ronaldo scores, play makes and motivates Portugal when the Ede r story is so popular.

Didn't just have the words to respond to him.

Angelfrost:
A revoke of his invitation ought to have been backed up with well tendered apology... I believe NBA is reputable and erudite enough to have done exactly that! Is there proof that this wasn't done??! Did Elrufai mention such a slight in his rant??!...

I have actually seen such official retraction of invitation sir... It is usually well laced with highly apologetic statements.

However, if NBA failed to follow this age long process, then they deserve serious calling out and reprimand!!!

The apology has finally being tendered.

That's the way to go.

Your submissions are very reasonable. Unlike very many other people's.

Very good. That's how a credible and reputable organisation should behave

It's not by force to speak at your event but you have to be responsible and apologise

I only hope that all the hypocrites hyperventilating since morning can learn a thing or two about decorum and respect from this.

usbcable:
i dont want and dont see Messi leaving the club.

Not even at this moment that the season starts next month.

that will be a problem for both him and any club he chooses.

The Club needs to think through what it wants to do. Rushing to take decisions with the rush of blood to the head maybe counter productive.

Infact i dont see many of the "so called" old guys leaving immediately. They are the experience that any young blood brought in will feast on for guidance

What would be your opinion on Messi if you were a fan of Barca's?

joviegghead:
.
Ronaldo did all of these for Portugal and did it well. The result?
Euro and Nations league.
Even Ramos had to admit Ronaldo's leadership in real Madrid. Yes he did.

Dude, I love Messi but I'll always say when and where he bleeps up.
And no is saying he should leave because he's a failure or bad captain. Fans wanting him to leave simply feel pity at how he has toiled while the board and everyone else bleeps up and render his efforts useless. He deserves a better place.

But ask yourself, if barca had a leader that rallies his teammate when they feel down, don't you think we would have won Champions League last season. That cup was meant for US! Everyone saw us winning. But we blew it.
If we had an energetic source of motivation, it most likely wouldn't have happened.

Jesus Christ!

This one still don't get it.

This is preposterous and pathetic to say the least.

Is football not a team game anymore?

One player carries the goal scoring burden.

Same player carries the play making burden.

Same player should motivate the team before they can perform under pressure.

In practical terms; I love being practical.

At Madrid while Ramos was motivating the team, Ronaldo and Bale were getting crucial semi final and final goals.

At Liverpool while Henderson is motivating the team, Salah and Mane are scoring crucial finals goals.

At Bayern while Neuer or someone is motivating the team, Lewy and Muller are getting crucial finals and semi finals goals.



Then at our Barca, our very own Barca, lol.

One man dominates the goal scoring game, same man dominates the play making game,

And the same man should motivate,

if he doesn't motivate then he is a draw back and should leave the club!!!


Frankly I feel like biitch-slapping every single person with that opinion right now.

Fuucck..

Aflix:
yes, to embarrass him for doing nothing about the killings going on under his nose.

Do You know how many people Obj'sObj's men massacred in Odi?

Do you know how cultists ravage and kill people daily in rivers state.?
What has Wike done?

So these ones are not people's lives abi.?

Is seems deaths only matter when they are from one religion to the other abi??

Angelfrost:
A professor of English close to me (His name is none of your business): he was invited to give a talk, but was later revoked due to differences among the organizers. He graciously sent a note of thanks, with their apologies [/b]well noted.

I have been invited for a panel, and was later withdrawn due to impromptu changes from the organizers. [b]They apologized, I accepted and thanked them for thinking of me in the first place. Life went on... Heaven didn't fall!

There are many more examples, but I have made my point.... Not everything requires losing one's composure or climbing the walls. His invitation was revoked. Last I checked, that is not exactly a crime neither is it out of place for the organizers... People also get invited, and cancel or decline at the eleventh hour... Heaven did not fall!!!

It is beneath a person of proper breeding to go bonkers over such minor discourtesy. You don't have to defend him so emotionally because he is highly placed.

I am glad you kept on talking about apologies.

Now the question,; Who has apologized to El Rufai?
Anybody?

Instead they further defamed him by talking about the Kaduna crises.

An unreserved apology from the NBA would have solved all of this.

Instead so many unmannered, uncultured and hypocritical souls have sprung up on nairaland still insulting the man.
Because they don't share the same religion with him.

One4me:
It is said that "When you refuse to speak, you probably might fool people into thinking you are smart, than open your mouth and confirm, validate their opinion about how foolish you are"!
SILENCE IS GOLDEN under such circumstance ......... and wise people know so.

Apparently, Hell Rufai & Sons Jihadist Enterprises dont fall into that category

PS: Stop jumping all over the place trying to defend this stupidity, it gives the impression you dont know better. Just an impression, except you prove us right.

You need to stop being a hypocrite because he's a Muslim.

We need to be bold enough and condemn the NBA for first inviting a personality and then withdrawing the same invitation based on whatever criteria.

Why did they invite him in the first place.


In fact if you don't think that the NBA owes El Rufai an unreserved apology over this embarasment then your hypocrisy stinks.!
It stinks.!!
It stinks.!!!

One doesn't have to be an El Rufai fan to know that he deserves an apology over this.

It's not by force to invite anybody but the NBA should humble itself and apologize to El Rufai.

Angelfrost:
Nothing new there... Happens now and then across the world. Invitations, like licenses or certificates, can be revoked or cancelled, especially where and when conflicts arise.

Men of honor, and proper training will either thank them for their time or ignore it all! Quite simple... Trading or responding with insults should be way beneath father and son of such elite class, exposure and breeding.

Give an example.

Give an example where someone was invited to an occasion. It was reversed and the person thanked them.

Tell us who that man of honour is.
Name his name.

Ladiesdoctor:
E dey pain dem.

Nonsense

Descendants of the Lilliputians

Short devil

Of course e pain am. Any body would be pained.

El Rufai did not ask to be invited.

You invited him and then the same You, withdrew the invitation.

Some of these media organizations can be useless sha.

The man was sitting on his own, You came and invited him.

All of a sudden you went again and disqualified him.

To embarrass him or what?

And some people are applauding. People who are supposedly educated.

And then you invite people like Wike and Obj.

jpmoriarti:
I agree 100% with you. We Barcelona fans are too emotionally attached to Messi. I'll say he's part of the problem today. No longer the solution. Bayern robbed several balls off him the other day. Dude didn't even bother chasing back and one or two led to goal.

Messi has been a disaster as captain of Barcelona. He doesn't urge the team on when morale is down. Four years of pain in Europe has all happened under watchful eyes of Messi.

SMH.

Messi has to carry 80 percent of the team's goals and assists and still has to motivate 10 grown men before they can play football!

Wow!!


Leta go the past 3 years only.

1. Real Madrid; If only Ronaldo was delivering for Madrid and scoring goals, WITHOUT Ramos and Bale also getting crucial goals as well when the going was tough for Ronaldo, So you really think that Ramos would have motivated them to big wins and UCL glory?

2. Liveropool; If only Mo Salah was delivering for Liverpool and scoring goals, WITHOUT Mane and Robertson or Origi also getting crucial goals as well when it was tough for Salah, So you really think that Henderson would have motivated them to beat big teams and win the UCL?

3. Bayern; If only Lewy was delivering and scoring goals WITHOUT Muller and Perisic or Gnabry coming in to score crucial goals as well when Lewy was down, So you really think that a motivational speaker in the form of Manuel Neuer would coman motivate them to big victories and a final?

Okay.. I wish you guys good luck.

haymekus:
Mehn, guy you talk too much,


Barcelona played a full Liverpool squad and won 3-0, all the players that played the return leg were rested and Liverpool had 2 key players (firmino & salah) injured, not minding the fact that they also played their first eleven that Saturday evening.


So guy tell me how the fûck these Barcelona players were tired, and also tell me how the hell these guys were not good, but they won by 3-0 in the first leg??

This post here.

My football fan; is this what you understand when they say players are tired legs and fagged out?

GTFOH mehn.

usbcable:
If you well recall despite being 3-nil down Ronaldo was still edging the boys on.

Not that it guarantees anything but its tells the others not to loose faith.

during battles you will see the platoon captain urge the infantry on even though he knows they have little or no chance of winning but alas luck can shine on them and by that stroke get a chance to win the battle and even at times the war


no one is saying MESSI is the problem. even someone said if Pique could be more with commandeering the defence that would be enough.

Rubbish.

usbcable:
the tam did not lower their heads during the match.

even at that you cant compare to Thunder striking 4 years in a fucking row.

that is not normal at all

It's quite silly you want to narrow the problems down to leadership.

It is very foolish to narrow the Roma, Liverpool and Bayern disasters and say it was because of lack of leadership in the pitch.

All because you want to put it all down to one man.

And you have people patronising you here that's why.

A very myopic set of fans.

usbcable:
But since time immemorial the examples given are these two legged ties.
Your team capitulated 4 years in a row to better teams and underdogs alike and worse still against all odds.

LEADERSHIP is UNDERRATED by your clouded sentiment.

Nonsense.

Leadership is also when your team is 1 nil down.

And you motivate them to turn the game around.

Not only 2 legged ties.

Why are you clowning tonight usb.?

usbcable:
yes.
motivating the team not to collapse when facing an opponent especially when you had the advantage and they were the supposed underdog.
Juventus, Roma and Liverpool losses are outrageous enough. That of Bayern destroyed your defence arguments.

You did not have the lead when Juve pulled back from a 3 nil deficit and you had to be saved by an 89th minute penalty abi?
Tell me you still win the game. Tell me!

Don't give me that carp about already had the advantage.
Motivating is not only when you already have an advantage. Even when you have a disadvantage it is still called motivating. The word hasn't changed.

You can't redefine the word.

You must be able to motivate your team back to victory even when you're down by 1 nil.

haymekus:
Mehn you keep emphasizing the 5-0 loss which was just a mere 3 point loss, do you think if the match was a ucl game and RMD 4-0 at Santiago, they will lose 5-0 at camp nou?


Mehn, Barcelona loss 3-0 after leading a massive 4-1, they still loss 4-0 after leading 3-0. The fact still remains that Barcelona as a club has lacked a real leader both on the bench and on the field of play ever since Enrique and xavi left.

Who says it can't happen to any team? Then you don't know anything about football.

No team is immune to that, it just cannot happen to every club.

You forget how Madrid(with Ramos and Ronaldo) beat Juve 3-0 in the first leg in 2018 and then Juve were leading them in the second leg by 3 nil until they had to be saved by a controversial 89 minute penalty to go tru?

You don't know football.

haymekus:
Mehn you keep emphasizing the 5-0 loss which was just a mere 3 point loss, do you think if the match was a ucl game and RMD 4-0 at Santiago, they will lose 5-0 at camp nou?


Mehn, Barcelona loss 3-0 after leading a massive 4-1, they still loss 4-0 after leading 3-0. The fact still remains that Barcelona as a club has lacked a real leader both on the bench and on the field of play ever since Enrique and xavi left.

Guy, we lost 3-0 because we were bad.
The players were bad, and the coach was bereft.

Leadership is only a minute aspect of the problem.
The players are tired and fagged out, we need a good coach and an organized board.

Leave this flirmsy so called leadership matter Abeg.

One doesn't leave the person and start blaming the anus for farting.

usbcable:
and in the one of instance where ATM beat Real Madrid 4-0, the point is
-once is one-off
-twice is a coincidence
-thrice is a cause for concern
-four times means its an habit that needs therapy

to make it worse it was back-toback-toback-toback.

note i have not said anyone names, because i know your mind is one your beloved.

You have completely gone off the rail.

We are talking about motivation. Not conquering a boogie team based on other factors.

usbcable:
As I said context matters.
Give an example where either was in a team that won the first leg by a margin of at least 2-0 to loose by 3-0, 4-0 or 2-8?

Ronaldo almost pulled Juventus through against Lyon while Ajax loss was a total disastrous season for the whole squad.

by the way if leadership is non essential would you give Ansu Fati the captain armsband

Completely irrelevant.

It doesn't have to be a 2 legged tie.

We are talking motivation here. It must not be 2 legs for Ramos or Ronaldo to motivate.

When you're down 1-0; you should motivate.
2-0 you should motivate.
3-0 you should motivate.

E com reach 5-0.


As for the second paragraph, nothing like almost for the matter.

You must motivate to win.

usbcable:
Ramos and Ronald of thsoe early days are not same ones you see nowadays.

both are European Champions and one is a Worldcup Champion too.

Leadership is key and its is not a farce. or will you give the captains arm band to Ansu Fati?

Nowadays?

The ones I see nowadays could not "motivate" their teams to beat small small Ajax and Lyon.

usbcable:
I am not saying shouting makes you win. but fact remains that leadership is key in anay endeavour.

ina corporate setting the team lead must show resilience during a crises same as the unit head else everywork doen by the brilliant and dumb member of the team will go to naught.

as for those matches you gave as examples the 5-0 was over a decade ago. even in the retrun leg you could see the grit displayed to gaet a draw and then same grit displyed to win the Copa DEL Rey.

as for ATM it is one of those bleeps. we have dished out beating upon beating for them marshalle dby both Ramos and Ronaldo (Hatrick master)

Lyon dumped us out when Pelegrini was head coach.

So when Pelegrini was coach the vocal Ramos and Ronaldo cannot motivate again?

I know you have beaten Athletico black and blue even with Ronaldo scoring 10 goals in one game. Fine!
My own is why didn't Ramos and Ronaldo 'motivate' during the 4 nil thrashing.

Because that's what I am made to believe here; when Ramos and Ronaldo are 'motivating' the team, they don't receive any thrashing.
And that we are performing poorly because nobody is 'motivating' us.

All these motivation talks dey vex me aswear.

*FFS you knew you were facing a Bayern side which had thrashed Chelsea 7-1.

*You knew you were facing a team which had bashed you by 7-0 not too long ago.

*You knew you most recently lost big leads against Roma and Liverpool in your last champions league campaigns.

*You knew you had lost the league title against Madrid and were going trophyless and had a chance to win a bigger trophy than them.


And then a bunch of 11 grown ass men who have been professionals for nothing less than 10 years were looking for some captain to motivate them!!!

Tufiakwa..

This motivation talk dey vex me. Motivation is not the problem;
The problem is having a team of tired and expired legs.