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harlos: I'll tempt you

Yucky or unpalatable

Kay17: You would agree with me that all knowledge lie either as truth or falsehood. Some people like mranony believe the truth is more valuable than falsehood, especially as regards spiritual matters.

There has to be a test for the truth, so whereby faith is a freetown medium to admit all sorts of ideas without a truth sieve in the name of the heart, falsehood would slip in. Reason and the laws of thought are extremely important. In the spiritual world, you wouldn't believe contradictions exist, right?

Again saying the spiritual is incorporeal and intangible, doesn't really cut it. An idea is both yet it is not regarded as spiritual. Time is not tangible either.

I wish I had answers that would satisfy you. Honestly I wish I did. You are right. Many atrocities have been perpetrated in the name of faith and spirituality. There is so much of it, in fact, that religion has become a joke, and or disappointment to many people. I actually started another long reply using time and ideas as a basis, but I realized…it doesn't matter what I say. I've said it all before. Others who are much more learned, and in tune with the spirit than me have also tried. No matter what any of us say, unless you are standing in the presence of God, you will not believe any of it. I can’t help you with this one. You are the only one who can. I’m truly sorry. I do hope someone comes along who will have what it takes to answer your questions to your satisfaction.

TheBigUrban2: .......remind me again, arent you divorced?

Yes, I am. I said if a husband and wife love each other as they love the Lord, they have the wisest and most just conciliare in each other. You have no idea what happened in my marriage, so please don't mock a situation you know nothing about.

softsparkyy: No dear,I so much believe in love. Mynd made it look like love is just an excuse to get money and sex so I am trying to make him see that nowadays, people don't need to even talk about love before they can have both.

Love is is a strong affection.Must not be between the opposite sex alone. It has nothing to do with what you are expecting to get — only with what you are expecting to give — which is everything.

Nice! I agree with the bolded.

adaobi123: Oh lol.

Abeg who moniker starts with B ?

You tell us. That's how this works. Make someone famous. hehe

adaobi123: Start again ?

LOL...Your moniker starts with "A"

LogoDWhiz: Uwc

A black, beautiful lady.

I thought you knew I was white.

@topic

Do we start again?

adaobi123

LogoDWhiz: @texanomaly. U look beautiful.

thank you

LogoDWhiz: The image I have in my head is diff from the one I saw.

What did you think I looked like?

LogoDWhiz: @Seun. I can save someone's profile picture. Is this a new feature?


Seems cool tho.

WHAT?!!

LogoDWhiz: Profile pictures can now be saved. Is it a new feature?

WHAT!!

Gboyeboy: Not a big deal. But many ladies won't accept coz they read many meanings to simple gestures.

Do you really consider panties a simple gesture?

teeo: I once asked a very good friend her panty size. So I could get her some nice ones a colleague was selling. Na so she para that it was too personal a gift.
Seriously I was kinda shocked, I and this my friend were really close so I didn't see it as a big deal. But women and there wahala.

Were you really shocked? Come on…really?

CwazyBlaqGal: I actually think it's cute and sometimes ROMANTIC

The Op said it was a platonic relationship. Where does romance come into play?

omoelu1: I honestly do not see any harm in it.
however, if a guy (in this context of this thread) were to buy you inner wears, would that bring an end to your friendship?

It would mean he is thinking of her in a non-platonic way. Where it goes from there is up the two of them. If someone is thinking of their “friend” in their underwear, they are not thinking platonically.

pjombo: Of course its inappropriate if she's just a friend. When you give someone material gift you tend to visualize how the gift is being used. eg if its a wrist watch u might visualize how good it will probably look with one of her gowns, u culd visualize if she'll put it on her right or left hand. etc. So if u buy her an under wear that means u've probably visualized how the pant will look on her. Even before buying it u must have pictured the size of her ass n d rest.

GBAM!!

I stopped reading here and went to the last page. Gifts say a lot about how you feel, and what you think about a person. It all comes down to what you are trying to convey. Panties have a definite meaning as a gift. Guys here can pretend they don’t get that all they want.

LogoDWhiz: Yungwizzy.

I hope u haven't forgotten my request..
Still waiting..

Okay…is it just me that noticed “Q” and “X” are missing? Is the English alphabet different in Nigeria? I thought I knew the alphabet. Is there on I am not aware of?
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOP”Q”RSTUVW”X”YZ
Maybe the Op should have included a list of the letters in alphabetical order.

“x” = ?

Zedric


I haven't forgoten...check my profile

Miss Katsina is absolutely gorgeous!

LogoDWhiz: Vikel2104

* “Q” = Quaala *


weazley

Divepen: internally oppressed nationality

I tell you!

Kay17: I will take that as a compliment. However, what is our guide in spiritual matters other than reason? Faith?

What is the dividing line between the physical and the spiritual? I think it is a fictional division. The spiritual is entirely unintelligble to our senses and mind. And no one on Nairaland takes the time to define it.

@ first bolded
This sentence is the reason I made my last statement. It WAS a compliment on your reasoning skills btw. There is a saying in the Southern United States. We sometimes say, “Bless your heart.” It can have a negative connotation or a positive connotation, depending on the way it is used. For me, sometimes it is used sarcastically. In your case, however, I use it both figuratively and literally.

Bless your heart, because logic tends to override it. You made a statement in a reply once to an op about love. The exact words alluded me at the moment, but the pure logic you used, in the face of matters of the heart, still come to mind when I see your moniker. Maybe the problem I see, when I read your comments, is that I’m not sure you can “see” in any other way. Now I am basing that purely on what I’ve seen here on NL, because I don’t know you at all. What you write here is all I have to go on. I’m sorry to make this personal. To answer your question fully, it is necessary.

This is the definition I found for reason:
rea•son
[ree-zuh n]

noun
1.
a basis or cause, as for some belief, action, fact, event, etc.: the reason for declaring war.
2.
a statement presented in justification or explanation of a belief or action.
3.
the mental powers concerned with forming conclusions, judgments, or inferences.
4.
sound judgment; good sense.
5.
normal or sound powers of mind; sanity.




These are the words used:

basis or cause for
justification or explanation
mental power concerned with forming conclusions
sound judgment; good sense

These are all statements concerning thought processes that, if governed by the brain only, cannot comprehend spiritual matters. Your first question was:

What is our guide in spiritual matters other than reason? Faith? This is an excellent question.


This statement, you made next, shows me why you asked it, and why it is incomprehensible to you:
The spiritual is entirely unintelligble to our senses and mind. And no one on Nairaland takes the time to define it.

It is unintelligible to you because you are unable, at this time, to apprehend what is being said to you. You are listening with your mind. When you should be listening with your heart. Lol…I know, I know. That doesn’t make sense. Hence I say again, “Bless your heart.”

The spiritual is not necessarily a matter of reason. It does require knowledge, if one is to practice ones spirituality. We can’t just say we believe and we are good to go. The start of faith though does take something you, and many Atheist, may have lost, or may have never had. That is to get outside your head and think with your spirit. Now I know many of you think that is rubbish. Once again, it is not something that can be “known” without using faculties that are not of the 5 known senses. So…if you haven’t disregarded what I’m saying already, because it makes no sense to you, I’ll continue.

One of the definitions of spiritual is Incorporeal or immaterial nature. That alone precludes the five known senses. So even the definition of “spiritual” is alien to many. If one does not believe we have a spirt or that spirits exist, no amount of explanation will help them understand. I realize this just seems like smoke and mirrors. There is no other way to apprehend what spiritual means, when one is unwilling to contemplate that there are things out there that cannot be explained by our minds and 5 senses.

Well here we are back at the beginning. I have still not laid to rest the question “in your mind”. I am back to what everyone says…So in answer to your question…what is our guide in spiritual matters other than reason? Faith?

Yes you must have faith. I realize quoting the Bible is useless if the people you are quoting it to are nonbelievers in it, but this definition is perfect. Hebrews 11:1…Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

To have faith is to hope for things which are not seen. Every day we act upon things we hope for, even before you see the end result. Faith is an action brought on by conviction. It cannot be quantitated or factored. It cannot be explained in a logical manner. Frankly, I feel those who possess it should be able to use evidentiary privilege against those who think only in terms of reason and logic, because it is incomprehendible to those who don’t believe the spiritual exists. We are not obligated to prove spirituality exists, what it is or how it works. You cannot and will not believe it, at this time, anyway.

That’s my two cents…for what it’s worth.

So bless you Kay17. Especially your heart.

what happened to "Q"?

PrincessB1: Texanomaly

Uye Iredia

TheBigUrban2: submission
səbˈmɪʃ(ə)n/Submit
noun
1.
the action of accepting or yielding to a superior force or to the will or authority of another person.
"they were forced into submission"

Let’s look at your definition…

The key words are accept and yield…

Then it says to a superior force or authority. I’ll deal with accept and yield first.

ac•cept
[ak-sept]

verb (used with object)

1.
to take or receive (something offered); receive with approval or favor: to accept a present; to accept aproposal.
2.
to agree or consent to; accede to: to accept a treaty; to accept an apology.
3.
to respond or answer affirmatively to: to accept an invitation.
4.
to undertake the responsibility, duties, honors, etc., of: to accept the office of president.
5.
to receive or admit formally, as to a college or club.

yield
[yeeld]

verb (used with object)
1.
to give forth or produce by a natural process or in return for cultivation: This farm yields enough fruitto meet all our needs.
2.
to produce or furnish (payment, profit, or interest): a trust fund that yields ten percent interest annually;That investment will yield a handsome return.
3.
to give up, as to superior power or authority: They yielded the fort to the enemy.
4.
to give up or surrender (oneself): He yielded himself to temptation.
5.
to give up or over; relinquish or resign: to yield the floor to the senator from Ohio.

If you will look at the bolded, they are not all negative connotations. Attitude and intention are the deciding factors in this case. One does not need to feel oppressed by another’s authority if one believes in the validity of that authority. Biblically speaking, the man is the authority in the home and for the family. If we are going by biblical standards, then we submit, or recognize such authority.

TheBigUrban2: Rather than submission, there should be mutual respect and compromise (from negotiation) in a marriage.

I believe I’ve already shown that submission is not always a bad thing.

Ephesians 5:22-28 (KJV)
22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
25[b] Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.[/b]

The Bible does say to submit to your husband in everything. It also cautions husbands, and tells them how to treat their wives. If husband and wife follow the teachings of Christ, they will both present themselves unblemished on the last day.

TheBigUrban2: For instance, my uncle is a doctor and his wife is an accountant.
They are both successful people. They argue a lot but they have been married for 10 years now
I once overheard them discussing my cousin's (their son's) future....they had a disagreement- the husband wanted the son to be a pharmacist since he was a science student in secondary school while the wife wants him to study IT.

Accountants work with IT people a lot (accounting softwares eh?) while doctors work with pharmacists. Solution? They both agreed that they will solve it with the boy's own decision between the two.

The son likes both professions but chose to be a pharmacist because he already had a school excursion and project with a pharmaceutical lab/company.


Submission meant that the wife would have had to agree with the husbands choice
Submission meant that the husband would have had to agree with the wife's choice

Respect and compromise meant that they had to find a solution together, while respecting each others opinions.

The Bible does not say the wife cannot discuss her opinions with the husband. It does not say she cannot try to reason with her husband or discuss problems. It says he is the authority. Yes we must respect his decisions, and he is the final decider.

If a husband and wife love each other as they love the Lord, they have the wisest and most just conciliare in each other.

harlos: I gorrit too

Hmmm.... There was a day I was sent to my dad by the purchasing manager of a company we use to supply that he wants to see him, when I got home I delivered the message and he siad ok.
I know he won't go there because he is always avoiding them for the reason i don't know. (I think its a personal issue)
The following week the man met me and asked if I delivered his message, I said yes and even lied on his behalf that he traveled and won't be back until the next week.
I think three weeks later they call a general meeting of all the suppliers and this time i know he going for sure. He asked me to follow him and after the meeting we went to the man's office. I was sitting on bench then The purchasing man called me and asked about the message he sent me, I haven't finished when n
my dad cut in and said "he didn't tell me anything, they forget things so quick"
The man just open mouth dey look at me.
I was like, eeh father lied against me
I wish I could disappear immediately from the scene.

We didn't say a word to each other till we got back home.

Sorry my friend... *gives him a hug*

Sometimes the people we love are the source of our greatest betrayals and disappointments.

softsparkyy: Not anymore. These days its more of a trade by barter. Men get laid and women get money without talking about love.

Are you saying love doesn't exist anymore? It is all about s3x and money? What of you? You are making a blanket accusation here, so I guess that includes you.

mnwankwo: Hi texanomaly. Thank you for your kind words. Nice to read from you too.



It is essential that you follow your own intuition. Thus if your spirit do not agree with some of the things that I say, then, reject them even if they are the truth. However, If your spirit is unsure, then do not ponder or analyse. Simply switch off all brain activity and your spirit will gain connection to the power of GOD and in this connection you will sense and know the Truth.

Thanks, great advice.

mnwankwo: I could not access the link you provided because it seem the thread is locked. As always, stay blessed.

Hmmm. It is the last entry from my NL diary. Strange.

Kay17: BUT why would Jesus resurrect the dead and heal the sick when there are hospitals?

Sometimes when I read your posts, I just smile and shake my head. Most of the time, I'm not even sure why. smh

Sorry I don't mean to derail. I'm in a strange mood.

@ topic
Good Question...Were there hospitals when Jesus walked the earth though? I guess you mean now.

Your mind works in logic and well defined practicality, it seems to me. I could be wrong. It wouldn't be the first time. There is no amount of expiation from a spiritual perspective that can convince you of anything.

I follow you so I read much of what you write. You tend to use "Spock-like" logic. Almost human, but not quite. That is not an insult btw, even if it sounds that way. After all Spock is half human. If you have ever watched the old TV series reruns, you would see that Captain Kirk and Spock are best friends. Even so, sometimes Kirk just smiles, shakes his head as he walks away.

@ mnwankwo

As always I enjoy reading your posts. Long time since though. Nice to see you again.

I often find myself... almost agreeing with you, but not quite. I start out thinking, YES he's got it!! This part I absolutely love:

mnwankwo: The purpose for which God - the creator created and imbued us with the talents or faculties is for us to find supreme joy and radiant happiness. The ultimate goal of spiritual evolution is to transform the talents inherent in the spirit (man) into abilities. Once these abilities become alive in a man, they will naturally place him or her in sync with the power of God, the creator. A man who have established this link with GOD will sense inner happiness and supreme joy.

"Man is that he might have joy"


Then suddenly I'm not quite sure anymore. I don't discard anything you say, mind you. I simply have, as yet, to embrace all of it. I do like the way you think though. We are all in different places spiritually, and I can appreciate most views.


I wasn't going to share this outside my diary, but what the heck..,people think I'm crazy anyway.


https://www.nairaland.com/1342944/tex-talk/2#24499334


As always... A pleasure.

First of all

@ Mynd

SMDH *rolls eyes*


@topic
If we are going to look at it from a biblical perspective yetsyi you've got it right. We are a help meet. Men are taught that they are the head of the household. In that way it is a matter of pride. I do not think pride is necessarily a bad thing here. I've said it before. Most men consider it their duty to take care of their wife and children. It is difficult to consider yourself a provider if your wife makes more than you. I'm not a man so I can't be absolutely sure about that. In a Bible reading society the man is the head. It is not healthy for him, or for the family as a unit, for him to feel undermined or emasculated. Some men may not feel that way, but I'm guessing most would.

alexleo: Isaiah 14;12

12 How art thou fallen from heaven, [b]O Lucifer, son of the morning! [/b]how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

Does the above scripture help in explaining?

No

alexleo: Nice to have you here bro. Ok. Waiting for your input. But like I earlier said pls remember that the major issue here is his judgement
/wrath with regards to the fall of lucifer and the fall of man and its consequences in life generally. Then you may link it up with your position on eternal torment. God bless you.

in regard to lucifer...I hear people talk about him as if he is a man. I thought part of his punishment was that he will never receive a body.

alexleo: Why did you change your mind? The purpose of this thread is for us to have contributions about the other side of God. Its not a thread to defend God or to abuse him. Its a thread to state our views and understanding about some of his actions(judgement/wrath) with regards to the fall of lucifer and the fall of man and its attendant consequences in life generally. Sometimes these questions bothers us and we shy away from asking it due to the fear of incuring God's wrath in our lives but then God never said we shouldn't ask or that we shouldn't discuss it. The truth is that none of us can give a perfect answer to these questions but a collection of various views here can help us have a better insight to these issues about God. What I presented is my own views and I'm not saying that its a perfect answer. God bless you.

Nice...

Thanks

I had a comment, but changed my mind.