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Did also yesterday

harlos: Taking every route

Under title eventually

harlos: Any corner wey i catch the intruder nani... I know i can't die there cos i'll be much stronger

Hehe




His arms are muscly. Very strong.

CharlieMaria: Let's Go Back Today.

Haha very funny...

I'm serious. I guess "L" and "G" are lesbian and gay. What is the rest?

Dizzy about you

What is LGBT?

Kay17: I secretly think empathy is overrated. . . Hardly can empathy be accurate, rather it is a reflection of my feelings supposing I was in the shoes of the person who is either experiencing or suffering. It is still my feelings but anticipated feelings.

Lol...I must say, you are consistent.

Something happened to me today that makes me disagree with you. I won't discuss it here though. In any case, I'm sure you would come up with some logic to explain it away.

Nice car Eddie

Are Sharks Killers

jayriginal: Except in this case, I am stating the obvious and your reply does nothing to counter it.

Oh well

LarrySun: You called Larrymoor by my name.

Sorry Hun. Didn't realize.

Kay17: Lol! Remember he was sinking/drowning when he asked Jesus to rescue him.

Oops...forgot that part. It's been a while since Bible classes. It's been a while since church attendance, come to think of it.

jayriginal: James 5:14-16

14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:

15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.

16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

Yes, the Pastor is irresponsible considering this

2nd Tim 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.

I fail to see any ambiguity.

I daresay you dont believe in God!

Well you can daresay anything you want, I suppose.

I need gum

LarrySun:

Sorry

Kay17: Wasn't it equally irresponsible and foolish for Peter to step out of the sanctuary of a boat and to attempt to walk on water?

Well I don't know. He was a fisherman. I figure he knows how to swim.

KLand: Too much grammar; no meaning for the common man. Abeg summarise the story... I dey for hold up joor.

Maybe this will help you understand at least part of it.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AA44cO1phDc&autoplay=1

jossi994: Felt the same way before?

Many times

In Real Time








@ Xtarxhyne - finally!!

TheBigUrban2: If a pastor advices a member who has AIDS or Diabetes to stop medication in favour of faith healing, such a pastor will go to jail in the UK

A pastor who does this is irresponsible. And any member that's listens to him has left there common sense at home.

God doesn't want us to disregard medication and healthcare. He expects us to use the tools provided to us.

ihedinobi2: If they never are, we shouldn't talk about lessons to "stay safe". The whole point of teaching is to pass on knowledge. That helps us to identify deceit and unfortunate circumstances. A potential räpe victim can learn how to identify amd neutralize deception and avoid unfortunate circumstances. If they possess this knowledge and fail to apply it anyway, they are culpable.




Wrong. They are not revealed because we are failing to teach correctly what a woman's responsibility in preserving the sanctity of her body is and what it is not so that in the event of such violations, the natural shame that is attached to räpe does not prevent them from denouncing their violaters. That is a lost virtue, the one you can really call 'worse'.

Okay...now you've gone too far!! Are you kidding me?!! Natural Shame!! Sorry reason is lost at this point!

Now I'm pissed. I can't even see straight at this point. It is obvious where you stand on this issue. It doesn't matter what anyone says.

I'm done. Read your statement over again. Never mind. Don't bother.


@MrAnony...yes I'm acting from emotion here. "Pissed off" is the emotion.

*unfollows thread*

ihedinobi2: Ok. Is a woman never culpable if she is räped no matter what the circumstances?

Okay...Somehow I missed this question. I'm glad I saw it, because frankly you are wrong when you said this question was asked in the op. It is not. A question mark at the end of a statement does not make it a question.

He who does not carry the burden of proof carries the benefit of assumption.

Have I missed the post where you tell us what you think those circumstances are. I'm not talking about the one where the n.ude woman walks into the den of ra.pist.
Maybe I missed it. I'm sorry. Could you please show me, if I have.

You are the one who made the statement. Tell me what the circumstances are and we can discuss them.

ihedinobi2: Help me understand here. I used those analogies to talk of a woman taking measures to secure her body. What does you use of them now correspond to? That the measures are meaningless because räpists exist? Are we going to do a chicken and egg debate too?

They are not meaningless...unless you only discuss them with the girls and you don't have a discussion with the boys.

I apologize for my hot headed replies. I was one of the people incensed by the tittle. After that I could not read the op objectively.

If you wish to state scenarios in which you think the woman is culpable, I am willing to attempt civility.


Ok I did miss this.

ihedinobi2: Oh, if you go to parties where drinks can be spiked and make no arrangement to save yourself from getting drugged and räped, how much concern exactly have you shown for your safety?

This is your scenario? Now girls can't go to parties? It is sad that this is actually a possibility, but you are right it is. I'm not sure the girl can be blamed here for going to a party and think there will be decent, law abiding citizens there. This defense would not hold up in court.

ihedinobi2: Oh, the Bible says so. It's a perfect book that tells no lies. Not that everybody believes that though.

Still, we've been around on earth for a long time as a species and we have this host of moral faults in us that never fully go away even though we attack it with nuclear weapons. I don't see why I should expect now that whatever makes a räpist räpe will suddenly disappear because we talk even more to räpists. Räpe might reduce as a phenomenon but go away completely? I'd like to see how.

I feel I may have gone to far and attacked you personally, and not the op itself. I do apologize for that.


The bolded can never be used as an excuse for bad behavior. It is not the rap.ists we need to talk to. You are right.

We need talk to our girls about safety. You are absolutely right about that. It does no good, however, if we don't talk to the boys about what is appropriate, and how to treat girls. It is a two-way street. Girls need to be taught to respect themselves, and demand that respect from the boys. In turn, boys need to be taught to respect themselves and to treat girls with respect.

jossi994: you got me with that.. Interesting piece of info. True.
One book i feel a strong emotional attachment to is 'Purple Hibiscus' by Chimamanda Adichie.
I find it hard to explain but i can relate with Kambili's every emotion and observation. Especially the part where she falls in love with the missionary priest.. I felt a little tug in my heart,felt like i'd lost someone very dear to me.. reason? Dunno,except for the fact that i had dreams of becoming a priest until certain factors came to play.
Am i sounding weird here?

No...You sound Human.

PAGAN9JA: Dude I dont care for your damned bible. its a book of jewish trash anyways.

PAGAN9JA...I can't believe I had to point this out to you. He is quoting scripture that clearly states that you have the right to kill him. The Christian God is not the God of your fathers, or his for that matter. So if we take the bolded statement out of context , the way so many Christians do to serve their own purposes....?

larrymoore: bible obviously says Kill Followers of Other
Religions "If your own full brother,
or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom
you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at
hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to
spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay
him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death,
because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord,
your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of
slavery. And all Israel,hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as
this in your midst." (Deuteronomy 13:7-12

Sorry LarrySun. You did walk right I to that one. Technically the God of Israel is not the God of your Fathers or mine, for that matter. Although I believe He is the same.


Just sayin'

Let's stop stepping all around the issue here. We all know Ihe is not really referring to a woman who walks into a group of men naked. Let's discuss something that is likely to actually happen.

1. Let's say a girl is on a date with her bf. Afterward they go to his place. They are making out on the couch. Things get hot and heavy. Suddenly she decides she doesn't want to go any further and says "NO". Does the guy have the right to continue?

2. A guy and the girl are at school. They are talking in his room. He kisses her. She does not stop him. Things start to go farther than she is willing. If she asks him to stop, is he obligated to do so?

Now, in both case the girl went willingly to the guys place. She allowed him to kiss and touch her. She may have even started it. Is he obligated to stop when she asks him to, or is he justified in continuing when she says no?

Mynd44: Hell no. I meant they might try to cover her up or tell her she is wrong but that is not their place as that can be mollestation. They can report and move the hell on

Thank you Mynd.