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Forum GamesRe: ~<<The Last Person To Post In This Thread Wins>>~ by texanomaly(f): 7:27am On Dec 17, 2013
harlos: Good mrng to the inside and outside of this thread
Good morning harlos... kiss
Christianity EtcRe: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by texanomaly(f): 6:59am On Dec 17, 2013
Logicboy03: It is a thread that needs to be derailed. cheesy


We have answered the question on page one-

"NO! NIGERIA DOESNT NEED A SPACE PROGRAM. THINK OF THE HUNGRY PEEPS, ILLITERACY AND EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM FIRST- DO WE EVEN HAVE QUALIFIED ASTRONAUTS AND NASA KINDA PEOPLE"?
Yeah well that's what I said in my reply. I even quoted you. Someone had to stop the madness.

but nooooo you couldn't leave it alone. Y'all just like to argue. All of you. tongue
Science/TechnologyRe: China Land's On The Moon. Does Nigeria Need Need A Space Program? by texanomaly(f): 6:56am On Dec 17, 2013
Logicboy03: Would be se.xy if you said it in a country/texas accent cheesy cheesy
I did... smiley

now stop angry
Christianity EtcRe: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by texanomaly(f): 6:54am On Dec 17, 2013
LB, Why do y'all keep derailing that Does Nigeria Need a Space Program thread?
Christianity EtcRe: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by texanomaly(f): 6:50am On Dec 17, 2013
Logicboy03: What??

How did you know that I am awake? cheesy
cool
Science/TechnologyRe: China Land's On The Moon. Does Nigeria Need Need A Space Program? by texanomaly(f): 6:49am On Dec 17, 2013
Y'all need to stop derailing and stick to the subject...geez
Christianity EtcRe: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by texanomaly(f): 6:47am On Dec 17, 2013
Good morning LB...everyone. smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Women Subconsciously Look For God In Their Husbands Because Lord Made Them So by texanomaly(f): 6:29am On Dec 17, 2013
Nahum777: who is talking doesnt matter grin, what he is saying is all that matters, the bible is of no private interpretation,
Who is talking, and what he is talking about, is of the utmost importance here. Context clues are crucial. How do you know what is being said, if you don’t know who is talking, or what it is about. It is important to know what is going on, so that what Eliphaz is saying makes sense. No Christ is not talking here. Nor is Job. What Eliphaz is saying to Job in this chapter is for his good, as well as ours.

Nahum777: why dont you interpret the verse for us now.
"Remember, I pray thee, who ever perished, being innocent? or where were the righteous cut off?" (Job 4:7).
There are some parts of scripture that speak directly to us. They give us direction. Some parts, however, are not so direct. It is easy to get confused, if we do not know what is going on. Context is crucial in some instances. As is the case here. This is what I meant in an earlier thread, when I said that I read the scriptures like a book sometimes, and other times I do subject study. It is important to read cover to cover and to pick a subject.

To help move things along, I will use the synopsis at the beginning of each chapter.

In chapter 1 we find Job, a just and perfect man, who is blessed with great riches. Satan obtains permission from the Lord to tempt and try Job. (Satan believes he can turn Job against God) Job’s property and children are destroyed, and yet he praises and blesses the Lord.


In chapter 2 Satan obtains permission from the Lord to afflict Job physically. Job is smitten with boils. Eliphaz, Bildad, and Zophar come to comfort him.


In chapter 3 poor Job curses the circumstances of his birth. He asks, "Why died I not from the womb?
Job says, “Oh why couldn’t I have died at birth?”


Which brings us to chapter 4.
Eliphaz reproves Job, asking such questions as, Are the righteous cut off? Shall a man be more pure than his maker?

Note Eliphaz is asking Job a question. What is the question, and why is he asking it? Let’s look at the verses before 7.


Job Chapter 4

1 Then Eliphaz the Temanite answered and said,

Chapter 3 three is full of Job belly aching about the situation in which he finds himself. Finally in the last verse he says, (Job 3:26) I was not in safety, neither had I rest, neither was I quiet; yet trouble came. He is saying, “I went out to spread the word. Even when it was dangerous. I worked to the point of fatigue. I was not quite. I spread the word, like I was supposed to.” Now he says, “Yet here I am. All these terrible things have happened to me.”
Take note, he is a righteous man yet he is afflicted. He is not being punished for anything.

2 If we assay to commune with thee, wilt thou be grieved? but who can withhold himself from speaking?

Then Eliphaz says, “Dude, don’t be mad, but I gotta say something here.”

3 Behold, thou hast instructed many, and thou hast strengthened the weak hands.

He goes on to say, “Your preaching has helping people gather strength.”

4 Thy words have upholden him that was falling, and thou hast strengthened the feeble knees.

He continues to tell Job of how he has strengthened others with his words.

5 But now it is come upon thee, and thou faintest; it toucheth thee, and thou art troubled.


Eliphaz throws Job’s words back at him by saying, “Now these bad things come upon you, and you fall apart. Dude, don’t be such a hypocrite.”

6 Is not this thy fear, thy confidence, thy hope, and the uprightness of thy ways?

Some other scripture references and definitions can help us here.

Confidence: Prov. 3:26 For the Lord shall be thy confidence, and shall keep thy foot from being taken.
Uprightness: rightiousness

Eliphaz says to Job, “You shouldn't be complaining. You should have faith in the Lord. You should have hope. You are a righteous man. Have no fear.”

I'll be honest. I’m not completely sure of the interpretation of this particular verse. If someone has a different one, please feel free to jump in here.

And here we are at the little verse that caused all the uproar…

7 Remember, I pray thee, who ever perished, being innocent? or where were the righteous cut off?

Another cross reference might help here.

1 Cor. 10:13
13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

Eliphaz is saying, “Dude, God will never tempt you beyond what you can bear. You are a righteous (innocent) man. Do you think you are going to die? He is only testing your faith. Have you seen any righteous man ever cut off?

Now, if ever there were verses that coincide, somewhat, with what Obadiah is trying to say, 8-11 would be it. Except that Eliphaz is saying that the wicked will be destroyed. Job did nothing wrong. All these things that happened to him were to test his faith. The Lord was not punishing him for his bad deeds. He was a righteous man. I've been asked, "Why do bad things happen to good people." This is my answer, Satan has no reason to bother with the wicked. They belong to him already. It is the righteous, the ‘innocent’, that he concentrates his efforts on.
Christianity EtcRe: Women Subconsciously Look For God In Their Husbands Because Lord Made Them So by texanomaly(f): 3:09am On Dec 17, 2013
obadiah777: dont hate the player. hate the game you created wink wink
As I said, I did not create racism/descrimination, nor I do try to keep the legacy of hate alive.
Christianity EtcRe: Women Subconsciously Look For God In Their Husbands Because Lord Made Them So by texanomaly(f): 3:05am On Dec 17, 2013
obadiah777: hehe how are ya mademoiselle texanomaly. thats just to remind you that this whole race thing started on your side. i didnt create the game, i am simply playing the game created wink
No, but you are not opposed to promoting it.
Christianity EtcRe: Women Subconsciously Look For God In Their Husbands Because Lord Made Them So by texanomaly(f): 2:48am On Dec 17, 2013
obadiah777: i do not wear skirts

deuteronomy 22 vs 5 The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: wink
It was a joke Obadiah. Btw...a kilt is not woman's attire. They are made for men, although, we women look quite fetching in them. wink
PoliticsRe: EFCC Uncovers How Former Head Of Service, Oronsaye, Others Allegedly Stole N6bn by texanomaly(f): 2:41am On Dec 17, 2013
cexplorer: Please what is the hope of pensioners like me who was due for federal pension since 2005 but yet to be enrolled after series of verification and capturing exercises? What other practical steps can I take to get my pension arrears since 2005 paid to me?
Speak to an attorney. Find out what your options are. I’m not sure about there, but the initial consultation is usually free here in the US. If you go to an attorney that is not familiar with this type of case, they can refer you to the right one. Good luck to you. smiley
Science/TechnologyRe: China Land's On The Moon. Does Nigeria Need Need A Space Program? by texanomaly(f): 1:56am On Dec 17, 2013
First of all, how did this become a debate about whether God exists or not?

[quote author=nutty_hnic]Africans are starving, you talking space program.[/quote]
Logicboy03: Let us settle the basic problem of poverty first..,,
Valid points

plaetton: Good point.
But Africans have been starving for a very long time.
Should we wait till every African is belly full before we begin a space program?
Wiping out all poverty is a bit unrealistic, but it is a good goal.

plaetton: And most importantly, do you not think that perhaps there might be causal link between our lack of scientific curiosity and our inability to feed ourselves despite all our natural endowments?
The lack of scientific curiosity is more likely the result of poor education.

plaetton: Logicdude,
I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this one.

Firstly, poverty has always been a moving target.

Secondly, the space faring nations like USA, Russia, China and the European Union did not solve their poverty problems before embarking on space exploration, neither did they consider the eradication of poverty as a pre-requisite.
See below...

Logicboy03: What the hell are you talking about?

I want a space program but you would be following the same path as the private Jet pastors- spending billions on something that brings little or no benefit to the average man...

Oh yes, and the average income of an American family at 1969 was about $9,000 which is $37,000 by today's inflation

1969 was the first moon landing.

Furthermore, poverty is quite relative. Living in America at the time was okay when they had their space exploration.

So guy, you are pointless
plaetton: Thirdly, our homegrown leaders have, over the many decades since independence , shown that they neither have the vision, the smarts, nor even the will to alleviate, let alone eradicate poverty.
And this is okay with you.

plaetton: A space program will attract, aggregate, spread and propagate the requisite Brain-Thrust needed to confront and mitigate most of Nigeria's and Africa's most pressing problems.
Starting a space program before properly educating your people, is not the solution. "Spread and propagate the requisite brain trust needed to... " Seriously? Education is a more practical plan. I'm not sure how a space program attracts aggregate. You'll have to explain that one to me.

plaetton: Just imagine how it could slowly but surely decimate magical thinking, and the chronic zombification and mumufication of the Nigerian populace.
Once again, proper education will do this,


plaetton: Wow. This is great.
This what I mean. This is kind of agency and this type of enterprise should occupy front page on our media as often as possible. Push politics and religion to the curb and showcase human ingenuity and possibilities.

Our national consciousness , especially of the young, needs to be fed and nurtured on the works of such an agency. It should be a source of national pride and a magnet for the cranially dexterous.
This I can agree with, but not for the same reason. This type of propaganda is perfect for influencing the young to want to learn more about math and science. So when they are ready to learn, give them the type of education that will benefit them and the nation.

plaetton: Anything, anything at all to increase our national IQ and neutralize the debilitating effects of magical thinking and religious bullshyts.
As I said; EDUCATION is a more practical solution.


dorox: Nigeria needs to develop its industrial base and rebuild basic infrastructure before talking of a viable space program. As a nation we struggle to generate enough electricity to meet 30% of our already very low demand, I don't think space should be our problem at this time.
The way I see it space is the product of a good industrial and scientific knowledge base, and not the other way around.
Thank you

Ranchhoddas: Cart before the horse...we should get our priorities right.we do not need a space program.
Exactly!
Christianity EtcRe: I Have Very Strong Reasons To Believe We Are Not In The Year 2013 AD by texanomaly(f): 11:16pm On Dec 16, 2013
Samgreguc: "satan does not understand the Bible but, he knows the Bible."
Never do I say satan understands the bible 100%
Really? You think satan doesn't understand the Bible? He wan't to make sure we all join him. He is very clever. Do you think for an instant he does not know and understand the Bible better than all of us? Every successful military man knows his enemy better than they know themselves. This is war. He knows the bible backwards and forwards. He understands every word, and knows how to use it to his advantage. Don't underestimate the devil. It could be a crucial mistake.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Fore-Play A Sin? by texanomaly(f): 10:45pm On Dec 16, 2013
macof: The Sun God and Santa has been serving us well
smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Seun We Want A Pagan Traditionalist Mod On The Religious Section by texanomaly(f): 10:44pm On Dec 16, 2013
[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]waiting for action.

or atleast a reply.[/quote]Haven't the religion mods already been chosen?
Christianity EtcRe: Is Fore-Play A Sin? by texanomaly(f): 10:42pm On Dec 16, 2013
macof: why get hugs when u can get kisses? undecided grin
kiss
Christianity EtcRe: Women Subconsciously Look For God In Their Husbands Because Lord Made Them So by texanomaly(f): 10:37pm On Dec 16, 2013
Nahum777: Even you? U dont believe? Okay, have been reading Obadiahs post, i mean all his posts, posts off nairaland too, so i know how to sound like him. Maybe you should know who i really am. https://www.nairaland.com/meilyn/posts thats who i am miss wink we have no reason to lie. Why would Obadiah have two monikers? Of what use is it to him? And why would he lie about it?
Do you honestly think he doesn't have other monikers?
Christianity EtcRe: Women Subconsciously Look For God In Their Husbands Because Lord Made Them So by texanomaly(f): 10:34pm On Dec 16, 2013
ATMC: I used to think that the above mistake was common to only we Naija.
oops...I usually proof read before I hit 'submit' wink I'll keep an eye on that. The mistake is usually 'there' in place of 'their', not the other way around though. Thanks for noticing. smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Is Fore-Play A Sin? by texanomaly(f): 10:23pm On Dec 16, 2013
Joshthefirst: Hello Tex. I'm fine. Merry Christmas. smiley
Hey Josh...Merry Christmas to you too...hope this month is treating you well. smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Is Fore-Play A Sin? by texanomaly(f): 10:21pm On Dec 16, 2013
rationalmind: My interpretation was spot on. You people should blame the translator not me. If you as an English teacher writes such a statement for your students, you would have to be returned to school.
Okay, I'll give you that...translator...this time. grin
Poems For ReviewRe: From The Deep Of Imagination by texanomaly(f): 10:18pm On Dec 16, 2013
Justiceenams: @Tex, thank you
You're welcome. smiley
Christianity EtcRe: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by texanomaly(f): 10:17pm On Dec 16, 2013
ARareGem: One man's meat, another man's poison. smiley
yup... smiley
Nairaland GeneralRe: *~Fynestboi Is Nairaland Moderator Of The Year 2013 *~ Congratulations!!! by texanomaly(f): 9:46pm On Dec 16, 2013
Divepen: thanx for Showin us
You're welcome. smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Is Fore-Play A Sin? by texanomaly(f): 9:28pm On Dec 16, 2013
Joshthefirst: I believe the deuteronomy verse is saying it is forbidden for a woman to grab another man's testicles while trying to defend her husband during a fight. How you reached the conclusion that she should not grab her husbands testicles at all is beyond me.
I couldn't have said it better.

Hi Josh. How are you?

rationalmind: It is because you put on dark colored glasses when reading the bible. Now take a look at this, pay attention to the bolded.


Now, remove those glasses and read again
See below

[quote author=rapture_ready]Oga rational, maybe you need to put on some glasses...

How is the woman "rescuing" her husband by grabbing him by the genitals? huh huh huh

The verse is obviously talking about the other guy.

And you call yourself "rational"? huh undecided grin[/quote]My thoughts exactly.

rationalmind: No let me insult you o. You should ask whoever wrote that verse how seizing ones husband genitals rescues him not me
You are seeing what you want to see. This is an example of why strictly rational thought is irrational. Sometimes common sense is the smarter choice.

macof: Josh has a point.
He could be correct, it's a use of pronoun, "him" could apply to any of both men there
Thank you. The English teacher in me just wants to hug you...


rationalmind: yea, I think the problem there is the translation. Whoever translated it did a bad job
Thank you. See where a little common sense will get you. Even Obadiah's interpretation made more sense than yours. This deserves a hug too. Everyone gets a hug. Hug Hug Hug.

plaetton: Fair enough.
What is your comment on the Deuteronomy verse?
So have the boys done it for you. I'm going to figure "yes"

Can we continue to Matthew 5:28?
Poems For ReviewRe: From The Deep Of Imagination by texanomaly(f): 2:55pm On Dec 16, 2013
Justiceenams: . . LOVE AND DEATH .

I wait patiently for the day i`ll meet love
a love stronger than imagination
with a strong heart i wait with much urge
the kind of love that exist between
the nyx and morpheus
a love despite human opposition
its strength on daily bases wax strong
with my eyes closed they search
for each other
when favoured they find each other
to be seperated by crockcrow
my eyes open to a new dawn
far apart they both go
wondering in the world i dont
know
patiently they both await the right time
the time they would meet again
destiny brings them together
when its night
hastingly they hurry to the altar in holy matrimony
here cometh the priest covered in a white clothing
is there any opposition
yes saith i with my eyes open
with pain they wonder again
thier eyes filled with tears
yet,thier heart refuse to bend
hoping what they pray would
happen someday
then cometh the day when my
eyes are forever closed
the end becomes the beginning.
Wow!
Awesome... I like. smiley
Nairaland GeneralRe: *~Fynestboi Is Nairaland Moderator Of The Year 2013 *~ Congratulations!!! by texanomaly(f): 2:51pm On Dec 16, 2013
Mynd44
Nairaland GeneralRe: *~Fynestboi Is Nairaland Moderator Of The Year 2013 *~ Congratulations!!! by texanomaly(f): 2:48pm On Dec 16, 2013
Divepen: [size=16]Adaobi 2
Fynestboi 22
Seun 1
Mynd44 10
Chaircover 1
OAM4J 1
Jaybee 5
Obinoscopy 3
Obinnau[/size]

Oga Lana ....Please inform ppl in @lst 2 of ur post
Why is this vote not tallied?
adegwurulez: obinnau
LiteratureRe: Literature/Writing Section's "Chat Central!" by texanomaly(f): 2:10pm On Dec 16, 2013
princesa: at the testimony of two, all controversy is settled.


i can only just imagine grin.
Okay tell me her local government or district, atleast Texas should be divided into something ?
I don't know her and I've never met her. AnythingI know about her, you could easily Google.
Christianity EtcRe: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by texanomaly(f): 2:15am On Dec 16, 2013
Mr Troll: angry
What did i do now?
Christianity EtcRe: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by texanomaly(f): 1:27am On Dec 16, 2013
hello Mr Troll
LiteratureRe: Literature/Writing Section's "Chat Central!" by texanomaly(f): 12:37am On Dec 16, 2013
princesa: hmmm was the exact thing i said then. grin

anyways, i read you're from Texas, then you must know the knowles family?

Mind telling me the name of their town, village and kindred? grin
Lolz...do you have any idea how big Texas is?

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