Remilekun101:


[size=18pt]Lemme give you mine.. IN THE LIGHT OF THE TRUTH by ABDRUSHIN. (The Grail Massage) [/size]

Never heard of the book. I am downloading it right away. Now I suggest you read The Heathens Guide to World's Religions by William Hopper.

I have ebook copies if you want.

KingEbukasBlog:


Lmao . You and your dumb analogies .

The bible commands you to be curious by asking you to gain knowledge and understanding . Curiosity is actually the pursuit of knowledge and willingness to learn .

God despises people who hates knowledge

Christianity does not and never killed curiosity . Can you give me an example where it did or does

Eclesiástics 1:18 New International Version
For with much wisdom comes much sorrow; the more knowledge, the more grief.

Acts 1:7 ESV

He said to them, “It is not for you to know times or seasons that the Father has fixed by his own authority.

It appears you don't even read your Bible. Now I expect you to tell me how I can only understand these contradictory message by faith and holy spirit.

If I begin here with VERIFIABLE examples, you go run.

Remilekun101:


[size=18pt]So the bible is the only basis for God?.. What a wonderful Atheist[/size]

Throw me every other evidential basis you've got.

Remilekun101:


[size=18pt]Anything that is above the Physical or earthly means try to understand what the function of the back brain is. when you do, all things will be clear but trying to use your frontal brain, logic to access the unearthly is a waste of time. Also you can just shut your mouth without claiming nothing exist outside the physical. What if i tell you there are planets where other humans exist.

What gives you the impression that the nomads were drunk and also who says a drunkard can be sensible?[/size]

I doubt if you've ever read a whole Bible chapter before.

No be only Logic and Reasoning crash course you need. It appears you need a crash course in almost every aspect of life.

I can't tarry with your ignorance.

KingEbukasBlog:


Admittedly , I became a christian because of my background . This belief strengthened when I made researches and got answers of my own . How does admitting someone is responsible for my existence equate to foolishness ? At least mankind should admit that nature and life were created - that's a major step .

Yes, a wonderful step, but to what end? The mistakes theists make is that their line of questioning ends there. Life exist because something created it.

What created that IT which created the world? Don't tell me that IT just appeared.

You have any idea the amount of suffering in the world right now, in Nigeria alone?

So you admit if you were raised in Thailand you'd be worshiping elephants now, or as the moon, as Muslims?

What makes Christianity so different from all of them, have you ever asked yourself, or you're just so obsessed with the life after death theory?

FYI, every single religion or gods on earth also has that theory. So what?

KingEbukasBlog:


Updates are implemented in evolutionary development of software according to certain specifications provided it users or manufacturers/designers/engineers . If there is a bug it will be rectified in the newer version . It does not cause the device to shut down or whatever you were trying to imply

You just subtly supported and upheld evolution, in case you no know.

Remilekun101:


[size=16pt]CURIOSITY IS FOR EARTHLY MEANS.. Check around you, have anything unearthly or supernatural gotten from Curiosity?. I'm a maths student, and i know what logic is but trying to use logic to get what is above physical things is ZERO[/size]

So how do we measure these un physical things? How? Or i should just believe you because you're a mathematician or because a book written by drunk nomads say so?

KingEbukasBlog:


Its now a typo ?

LMaoooo . I forgive you sha

1. You see being religious is all about experience .

2. In computer science , studies prove mind produces mind . In Artificial intelligence , concepts like AIS (Artificial immune system ) , SI (Swarm Intelligence ) emulate natural systems and behaiour . AIS exploits the immune system's characteristics of learning and memory to solve a problem while SI emulates natural ecosystems . Even evolutionary algorithms tend to emulate evolution in nature .

The bible clearly says :
Genesis 1:26

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.


Science helps us to understand how it was done . Was it through evolution ? Or was it undeniably irrefutably an intelligent design . Intelligent design comes in handy when you look at humanoid robots , agents etc .. so why isn't life forms and how they adapt to their environment seen as a design ?

The camera is designed by the human mind, but the eye isn't designed by a higher mind ?
Automated processes are designed by the human mind , but biological processes aint designed by a higher mind ?

The laws of nature , understanding the properties of elements etc enable us to create . Our dexterity in creation , creativity are actually a reflection of an uncreated God's abilities . Even robots now carry out tasks , we gave them that ability to learn , attain some level of perfection when tasks are done iteratively .

No, being religious stems from ignorance and childhood indoctrination. You would be a monk, if you were raised in Tibet.

Or a Hindu if you were raised in India.

Or a moslem if you were raised in Mecca.

Calm down, drink palm wine and let that sink in for a moment.

Ebuka, use your brain. Use your brain, nwanne. Stop this foolish way of reasoning.

Remilekun101:


So you mean Valid Logical Reasoning which is a product of the human frontal brain can decipher God Tell me how do you expect a Makee to describe its maker? you expect a seed to tell you how it became a tree, or you expect an alloy to tell you how it became a wheel. Dude your analogy reeks of stupidity

Oga, go siddon.

History has taught us over and over again that this your conclusion stems from ignorance. And religion thrives under ignorance. The moment humans stop asking question, then they have lost it, otherwise, what is the usefulness of curiosity, and if (let's assume) it was downloaded unto us by a god, or an entity, are you telling me there has to be a limit as to what the human mind can be curious about? It's pointless and it does not make sense.

Look around you, every single thing you use on earth was conceived out of curiosity. If curiosity had been killed of since the middle ages, we'd still be waging wars and all. Yes, curiosity also has it's disadvantages, but let me leave you with a simple quote.

Whatever can be believed without evidence, can also be dismissed without evidence. If there was or is a maker, then someone or something, also made the maker. Cause and effect. Wrap your brain around that because no one, not even science has conclusive answers.

Just read yourself, I just taught you how to reason logically and yet you couldn't infer that as a Computer Science student he's supposed to have been taught logic in school. It is compulsory, or dem remove am from his curriculum?

I am not a Computer Science student, but I KNOW LOGIC IS A MANDATORY SUBJECT FOR COMPUTER SCIENCE STUDENTS.

Let me rephrase, it's like saying I'm a blogger but I don't use the Internet. How does that sound? Is that a valid reasoning?

He is supposed to sue his useless university, and not form a useless computer science graduate on Niaraland

KingEbukasBlog:


You just confirmed what I explained about bugs and the process used to correct bugs . I wanted you to explain this statement :



Dont vex me here

Same logic applies to WINDOWS and MACHINTOSH computer updates, and all softwares.

hahn:
God's will is a complex term.

It can be used as an excuse for what we don't understand eg ancient men described natural events and disasters as god's will

It can be used as an excuse for our own selfish interests eg when the crusaders killed, raped and looted people's properties they said it was god's will. Even muslim terrorists today use "god's will or the will of allah to justify their barbaric acts of rape, sex slavery and murder.

It can be used to impose our own beliefs on others eg you have to do it because it is god's will.

It can be used to console ourselves eg when we lose a loved one we say it's god's will

Etc

They all fall under the 'Wishful Thinking' category.

KingEbukasBlog:


This pillock does not even understand simple terms in computer science and he is copying and pasting cowdung.

I am pasting what has been proven to be true. If they are lies, you are free to refute them.

KingEbukasBlog:


Dont run a like a fool you are and prove your statement . The id.iot does not know I study computer science . This sums up atheism , their "intellectual superiority" is debilitated when confronted by actual scientists . Your making claims like a mo.ron without proving it

Wait, you studied computer science and you know nothing about valid logical reasoning?

I am dumbfounded.

KingEbukasBlog:


Mr . man your statement was :



Explain how this is true and stop obfuscating issues here

This pillock does not even understand simple terms in computer science and he is copying and pasting cowdung . Show me how every computer on earth develops a fault due to one single logic flaw in computer science(whatever this means) .

The computer science was a typo

I already gave you an example using Apple iOS updates. Unless you tell me an apple device does not constitute a computing machine.

I am not intellectually superior than you, I am just much more curious than you and I don't succumb to non evidential claims.

Your big grammars on this thread will not save your stupidity.

KingEbukasBlog, I'm not even going to argue about gods or your gods existence with you anymore. It's tiring.

But I want to show you that your reasoning level is way below a normal homosapien of the 21st century and I will make it my duty to correct that messed up part of your cognitive faculty.

You reason like a primary school graduate.

grailife:
After the big bang, suddenly their was ape which envolve to man and woman, sun, air, water, sand, animals. Oil etc start existing... lol
and they do believe that there was once a moses,
whats the origin of the ten commandent... There is God o

Abeg take this 50 box, go buy lacasera. You know nothing about what is going on here. You have where your next sex and alcohol is coming from to worry about.

KingEbukasBlog:


If you are a computer scientist , then facepalm for you . Your statement completely showed conspicuous retardation



How on earth is this true ?

In software development , bugs or defects are detected and corrected at a certain stage . Bugs simply deter the execution of commands and debugging simply rectifies this

I am not a computer scientist, not yet, however, I have an idea of what I'm taking about. Correct me, if I falter

In software development , bugs or defects are detected and corrected at a certain stage . Bugs simply deter the execution of commands and debugging simply rectifies this.

A software bug is a problem causing a program to crash or produce invalid output. The problem is caused by insufficient or erroneous logic. A bug can be an error, mistake, defect or fault, which may cause failure or deviation from expected results. Most bugs are due to human errors in source code or its design.
https://www.techopedia.com/definition/24864/software-bug-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_bug

You don see? Nigerian religious bible thumping erroneously thinking blogger.

Open your brain. You have been fed with too much junk. This is 2015 and information is just a data bundle away. Now who needs a facepalm?

Also, why did you only cherry picked software bugs? Why not the calculator error too? Abi you never see faulty calculator before?

KingEbukasBlog:


You've got to be kidding me .

This is simple .

God's existence includes the assurance of the afterlife . Since God exists then the afterlife is true . If you see an angel , is it delusional to conclude God exists ? If you witness a miracle after being prayed for , is it delusional to conclude God exists ?

You needed to have cogitated before replying me

You are batshit crazie.

How does you God's unproven existence include the assurance of an after life?

Please answer my question.

Remilekun101:


What is valid reasoning?

Firstly, this is 2015 and you could have easily Googled the definition. But, let me still help, for other lazy Nairaland theists.

Reason is the capacity for consciously making sense of things, applying logic, establishing and verifying facts, and changing or justifying practices, institutions, and beliefs based on new or existing information. It is closely associated with such characteristically human activities as philosophy, science, language, mathematics, and art and is normally considered to be a definitive characteristic of human nature.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reason

Most of the arguments philosophers concern themselves with are--or purport to be--deductive arguments. Mathematical proofs are a good example of deductive argument.
Most of the arguments we employ in everyday life are not deductive arguments but rather inductive arguments. Inductive arguments are arguments which do not attempt to establish a thesis conclusively. Rather, they cite evidence which makes the conclusion somewhat reasonable to believe. The methods Sherlock Holmes employed to catch criminals (and which Holmes misleadingly called "deduction" were examples of inductive argument. Other examples of inductive argument include: concluding that it won't snow on June 1st this year, because it hasn't snowed on June 1st for any of the last 100 years; concluding that your friend is jealous because that's the best explanation you can come up with of his behavior, and so on.
It's a controversial and difficult question what qualities make an argument a good inductive argument. Fortunately, we don't need to concern ourselves with that question here. In this class, we're concerned only with deductive arguments.
Philosophers use the following words to describe the qualities that make an argument a good deductive argument:
Valid Arguments

We call an argument deductively valid (or, for short, just "valid" when the conclusion is entailed by, or logically follows from, the premises.

Validity is a property of the argument's form. It doesn't matter what the premises and the conclusion actually say. It just matters whether the argument has the right form. So, in particular, a valid argument need not have true premises, nor need it have a true conclusion.

A premise is an assumption that something is true. In logic, an argument requires a set of (at least) two declarative sentences (or "propositions" known as the premises or premisses along with another declarative sentence (or "proposition" known as the conclusion. This structure of two premises and one conclusion forms the basic argumentative structure.

The following is a valid argument:
All cats are reptiles. - premise
Bugs Bunny is a cat. -premise
So Bugs Bunny is a reptile. - conclusión

Neither of the premises of this argument is true. Nor is the conclusion. But the premises are of such a form that if they were both true, then the conclusion would also have to be true. Hence the argument is valid.

To tell whether an argument is valid, figure out what the form of the argument is, and then try to think of some other argument of that same form and having true premises but a false conclusion. If you succeed, then every argument of that form must be invalid. A valid form of argument can never lead you from true premises to a false conclusion.

For instance, consider the argument:
If Socrates was a philosopher, then he wasn't a historian.
Socrates wasn't a historian.
So Socrates was a philosopher.

This argument is of the form "If P then Q. Q. So P." The conclusion of the argument is true. But is it a valid form of argument?
It is not. How can you tell? Because the following argument is of the same form, and it has true premises but a false conclusion:
If Socrates was a horse (this corresponds to P), then Socrates was warm-blooded (this corresponds to Q).
Socrates was warm-blooded (Q).
So Socrates was a horse (P).
Since this second argument has true premises and a false conclusion, it must be invalid. And since the first argument has the same form as the second argument (both are of the form "If P then Q. Q. So P.", both arguments must be invalid.

Invalid arguments give us no reason to believe their conclusions. But be careful: The fact that an argument is invalid doesn't mean that the argument's conclusion is false. The conclusion might be true. It's just that the invalid argument doesn't give us any good reason to believe that the conclusion is true.

Hope you enjoy my copy-paste crash course in Logic and Reasoning like a human being and not a religious robot. When you begin to take religious arguments one by one under serious scrutiny, you will see that their invalid conclusions does not make sense. What do you expect from roaming nomads who had no basic knowledge of biology or anything that we do now?

For more readings check out
http://philosophy.hku.hk/think/arg/valid1.php
http://philosophy.hku.hk/think/arg/valid2.php
http://www.jimpryor.net/teaching/vocab/validity.html
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premise

KingEbukasBlog:


@ bold .. you are clearly a slowpoke

It's a tragic shame that a Nigerian Bible thumping blogger like you knows nothing about the logic behind malwares, software bugs, viruses.

Let me give you logic application possibilities of computing. Now, if apple releases IOS10 and one line of code is incorrectly written, who ever upgrades his phone to the ios version go suffer.

How would you feel, goat, if you type 2+7 on your calculator and it shows 19?

Would you consider it a miracle or a flaw in the calculator?

You see, na bigots like you dey make logical reasoning sound like it's religious. It is not. Logical reason is needed to run the world. Suck it up.

You are deluded.

KingEbukasBlog:


I know of God's existence therefore there is afterlife and you need to be dead to experience it

I can't pin point the exact fallacy in the vomit you wrote up, but it sure falls within these logical fallacies :

Affirming the consequent
Example:
If Bill Gates owns Fort Knox, then he is rich.
Bill Gates is rich.
Therefore, Bill Gates owns Fort Knox.

Owning Fort Knox is not the only way to be rich. Any number of other ways exist to be rich
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_consequent

Post hoc ergo propter hoc
Example
The rooster crows immediately before sunrise; therefore the rooster causes the sun to rise.

I'm very sure your delusional brain knows this to be false. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc

It appears you need a crash course is reasoning as a human being and not a relifious robot.
http://59ways..com.ng/2012/11/informal-fallacies-of-reasoning.html?m=1

Remilekun101:


What is logic?

For lazy theists:

Logic (from the Ancient Greek: λογική, logike)[1] is the branch of philosophy concerned with the use and study of valid reasoning.[2][3] The study of logic also features prominently in mathematics and computer science.

Just imagine this, one single logic flaw in computer sciences and every computer on earth develops a flaw. Just one single logic error in math and physics and every single plane on air crashes.

You gerrit?

hahn:


Where the hell have you been?

I see you're now born again

Hisses.

You unrepentant Nairaland atheists. Not only am I born again, but I ACTUALLY opened a new church.

First Fruits Assembly.

You atheists have no idea how much money there is to be earned when you feed gullible folks with the lies illusion they want to hear.

Watch out for my Abuja and Port Harcourt offices church branches opening.

Hisses out of thread.

UyiIredia:


My dad was a pagan, he didn't dream of pagan heaven with his ancestors, he drram of Jesus and heaven which he didn't believe. He isn't the only one. Joseph wanted to put away Mary and he had a dream urging him otherwise. Muslims and atheists experience NDE's where they see Jesus and heaven. Why ignore that? The vast differences in people's NDE experience shows that God transcends the boxes of various religions, it's only a mind trapped in a that will insist it means it's all hogwash. No probe about my Dad I expect to see him again.

This sums up your dad's experience.

KingEbukasBlog:


I know of God's existence therefore there is afterlife and you need to be dead to experience it

Fools like you just throw reasoning fallacies up and down on Nairaland without realizing it.

hahn:


While you're at it, please confirm or debunk the recent assumption by theists that you were raped while in the seminary and that's why you chose to leave Christianity and are bitter towards the religion.

#diary

Jesús!

[size=14pt]Mas.tur.bate![/size]


I cannot over emphasize this!

Don't thank me, my reward is in heaven.

Foolish mods.

This one no go enter fp

hahn:


You must be confusing Jesus for Shao Kahn

And we have another Mortal Kombat addict in the building.

Explorers:
35.

I laugh.

hahn:


I believe the first thing you should do is cancel sugar from your husband's diet. Not even a pinch in his tea, no soft drinks, no sweets or biscuits.

Next, you can make him bitter leaf juice whenever he wakes up or before he goes to bed at night.

Before having sex, try and suck him till he comes the first time. I can guarantee when he gets aroused again he will be delayed before coming.

In your neighborhood, search for women that cook roots and tell them about it. But the roots from them and soak it at home with water for 24hours and then give it to him.

Hope this helps

Chai at the bolded!

Wetin person no go read from this Mr. Hahn?