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My Analysis of the 3 candidates :

1.Tinubu offered Atiku the platform of his party to vie for Presidency twice against the advice of Tinubus kinsman, Obasanjo. (not to talk about his support for Ribadu and Buhari)

2. Obi was Atikus apprentice who left Atiku just months ago.

3. Tinubu is the most de - tribalised candidate among the three. Working for others since time immemorial.

Kekeke.... Obi that couldn't turn Anambra to Lagos wants to turn Nigeria to China. I laugh in Swahili .....

Rubbish debate ! Only a blind man will not easily see the achievements of both of them, after all they were both 2 - time governors. I prefer concrete progress all can see to fabricated theories Besides, one is a LANDLORD to the other.

Jomonix:
Your expectations are very low. If someone with Obi skills rule Lagos, he will in 4 years surpass the achievement of your principals 20 times over. Mind you he met retrogression and decay in Anambra but he left abundance and plenty. Lagos mis-governance cannot show because the inflow is ceaseless for now, akin to the abundance of Nigeria in the 70's.

Which abundance and plenty did he leave in Anambra. Someone Obiano exposed. Oh, yes so much abundance and plenty in Anambra that he left Anambra to come and live in Tinubus Lagos . Tinubu is his Landlord for Lagos ! Oga nah master !

Chiffy:
What is this one even saying. Peter Obi was already living and creating business opportunites in Lagos long before Tinubu became Governor. I was born and lived in Lagos long before Tinubu became governor (while he was still pushing drugs between naija and chicago). So what are you all about Tinubu's Lagos? I saw lagos before Tinubu, during Tinubu and after Tinubu. And I can tell you during Tinubu was the worst because Lagos transitioned from military serenity to agbero impunity.

To even think that up till now you have not heard Tinubu utter a word about his plans for Nigeria, yet you support him blindly, the same way you supported Buhari. All because he is your tribe. Who is then the tribalistbetween you and I.

One thing I will assure you is that when Peter Obi becomes president and construction begins on the Port Harcourt Sea Port. and Onitsha Port. You"ll look for the Igbos and beg them to come back.

So, Portharcourt will be your next stop. Maybe you will go there and insult Wike the way you are doing to Tinubu. Thank God Portharcourt people are reading this.

Chiffy:
And what did Tinubu achieve in Lagos please? Not a single Legacy on infrastructure.All you will say is that he planned it. Why couldn't he do it? He had 8 full years. He couldn't even pay pensioners. Yet he left the state in debt to the tune of N100B. Peter Obi has legacies on infrastructure, never owed any worker or pensioner and still left savings to the Tune of N70B.

Secondly the president of American is not a fragile 86 years old displaying parkinson symptoms. How can such a person have ability when he is not even agile enough to stand for more than 20 minutes. And that is who you want as president. Pity yourself.
People like you complained incessantly about Buhari's numerous medical trips abroad. Now you want to put another sick man there because he is from your tribe. How selfish.

According to you PO left legacies in Anambra so much so that he left there to come and live as Tinubus tenant in Lagos. Till tomorrow south easterners are still trooping to Lagos because of the opportunities created by Tinubu and his appointed successors. I won't be surprised even if you are typing from Lagos and yet despising it. Tribalism doesn't put food on anybody's table, ability does !

Chiffy:
Abi you are afraid of how Obi is jumping up and down. You have never seen a presidential candidate moving with so much agility. If Agbado or Atiku try do even a quarter, no foreign hospital be that.

Is it by agility ? The president of America is 78 years old and has been under COVID attack for a month now but Americans are not bothered because they believed in his ABILITY rather than his agility. And talking about ability what did he achieve in Anambra for the 8 years he ruled ? Did Anambra become China or Egypt or Israel, that he likes to talk about or even Lagos where he lives. Charity they say begins at home. So, my brother, only ability can improve exchange rate and not agility !

Good. What goes round comes around . It was the same Atiku that led some PDP govs and Saraki out of PDP then to fractionalize the party and leading to Jonathan's defeat. He serially betrayed Obasanjo and then Jonathan. It's the turn of the south to deal with these Northern betrayers. Tambuwals own will come !

O ma se oo ! People are really stressing Obi and co. Now he will start thinking of how to go to Holland. The way he has been jumping up and down you will know he is unsure of himself. May we not labour in vain.

People are really stressing Obi and co. Now he will start thinking of how to go to Holland. The way he has been jumping up and down you will know he is unsure of himself. May we not labour in vain.

Penguin2:
Before I answer this your question, go back and answer the series of questions I asked you the very first time I quoted you.

Or is age the only problem with Tinubu?

Go back and answer the questions I asked you one after another before you can ask me anything.

The post is about age because many people were focused on the wrong criteria. I want a contest based on the ideas and achievements of the candidates as I believe those are the relevant criteria. I am not a party man. Buharis failure has nothing to do with age but everything to do with capacity. That's why I am focused on capacity. We should not be swayed by primordial and petty sentiments such as age, tribe, religion by politicians. We need a visionary leader !

Penguin2:
You are just unbelievable for someone that is supposed to have brains upstairs.

Tell us… why do banks insist on not employing anybody older than 27 years sometimes?

Why is enrollment into the military pegged at 22 for recruits and 30 for graduates?

Why do judges retire at 70 when they supposedly have more experience on the bench?

Ever heard the phrase “productive age” before?

Is the 86 year old man the only qualified person for the job?

Why don’t we go for both capacity and agility?

Okay brother, you said we should go for capacity and agility. Good. So, list for me 5 enduring capacities of Obi when he was governor for 8 years. Am waiting ! And then bros you need education. So, the civil service rules sets a retirement age for govt employees and Judges but neither the constitution nor the electoral act set any apex age limit for politicians. What does that tell you? Besides, can you name one country in the world that sets max age limit for politicians. None ! That's what I learnt from my research I posted up there. Maybe you didnt read it. The reason politicians take us for granted in this country is that we are not critical thinkers. How can an educated person like yourself be scammed with age issues when exchange rate never responds to age. Exchange rate only responds to innovative and creative ideas and vision, and not age.

Validated:
Some of you are irredeemable hypocrites. So, you went searching fir ciuntries that had old presidents to justify voting Tinubu, an 86 years sick old drug hag?

How many times have you preached to extend civil service age to 80? Why do you support 55 yrars retitement age? Would your father e.ploy a 60 yrars old man to run his business even?

Hypocrites!

Prove to me that age matters. What do you want in a President ? Is it the freshness of a young man that will bring down the rising inflation or solve the insecurity problem in the North or a visionary president ? Does rising prices of food listen to age or you can use it to buy garri at the market ? if it is by age then Mark Zuckerberg or Elon Musk ought to be the president of US. If it is by age Yahaya Bello would have done better than Dave Umahi. You know our problem in Nigeria - we are too tribalistic and petty.

Penguin2:
So what do you want us to make of this?

To justify why Nigerians should vote for Tinubu at 86years or what?

Besides, tell us about the antecedents of these men before they became presidents.

Were their ages controversial?

What I learnt from above is that age does not matter. That the most important attribute is track record and ideas. Remember the Bush family in US. The whole family were into politics and Americans didnt complain so long they performed. Even Bush senior and junior became US Presidents.

Were their true origin unknown?

Were their certificates missing?

Prior to their being elected, did they support an illiterate bigot who damaged their countries for 8 years so they could come in as the saviour?

Were they godfathers to touts?

Were their wives in their country’s senate for donkey years?

Were their sons in charge of signage and advertising in their states?

Were their daughters the Iyaloja General of the markets in their states?

Did they establish a tax company through which they siphon the funds of their states?

Lastly, tell us about their records in office.

Please be fast.

What I learnt from above is that age does not matter. That the most important attribute is track record and ideas. Remember the Bush family in US. The whole family were into politics and Americans didnt complain so long they performed. Even Bush senior and junior became US Presidents.

Ynn

I have wondered what really should be the yardstick for determining who to vote for as president. Should it be age, tribe, oratory, good looks, ideas, visionary, past record, or what exactly. Some of my friends have argued for age and I decided to do a little research about current and past presidents in other advanced countries and their ages. Does age always matter in developed countries or performance? What I discovered was illuminating. Note I left out Joe Biden of US( 78 years). Below is a summary of my findings and the link.


Oldest Presidents in the World
Most countries have age requirements for the higher political offices, especially president. This is because years of political or military service are often required/desired for the world’s leaders. Every single president on this list only gained their countries’ top office after spending years in various government and/or political roles. Many did not become president until much later in life, while others stepped into their roles fairly early in life and have held on to power for several decades.

As of May 2022, this list is as accurate as possible and will be updated as needed.

8. Karolos Papoulias (June 4, 1929 – December 26, 2021)
Oldest Age While Serving: 85 years, 9 months, 9 days
Country: Greece
Years Served as President: March 12, 2005 – March 13, 2015 (10 years, 1 day)
Political Party: Panhellenic Socialist Movement

Karolos Papoulias (June 4, 1929 – December 26, 2021)
Oldest Age While Serving: 85 years, 9 months, 9 days
Country: Greece
Years Served as President: March 12, 2005 – March 13, 2015 (10 years, 1 day)
Political Party: Panhellenic Socialist Movement


Giorgio Napolitano (June 29, 1925 – Present)
Oldest Age While Serving: 89 years, 6 months, 16 days
Country: Italy
Years Served as President: May 15, 2006 – January 14, 2015 (8 years, 7 months, 30 days)
Political Party: Independent


Joaquín Balaguer (September 1, 1906 – July 14, 2002)
Oldest Age While Serving: 89 years, 11 months, 15 days
Country: Dominican Republic
Years Served as President: August 16, 1986 – August 16, 1996; 1960 – 1962; and 1966 – 1978 (total of 24 years)
Political Party: Social Christian Reformist Party


Shimon Peres (August 2, 1923 – September 28, 2016)
Oldest Age While Serving: 90 years, 11 months, 22 days
Country: Israel
Years Served as President: July 15, 2007 – July 24, 2014 (7 years, 9 days)
Political Party: Labor followed by Kadima


Beji Caid Essebsi (November 29, 1926 – July 25, 2019)
Oldest Age While Serving: 92 years, 7 months, 26 days
Country: Tunisia
Years Served as President: December 31, 2014 – July 25, 2019 (4 years, 6 months, 25 days)
Political Party: Nidaa Tounes


Hastings Banda (c.1896 or 1898 – November 25, 1997)
Oldest Age While Serving: c.96 years or 98 years old
Country: Malawi
Years Served as President: July 6, 1966 – May 24, 1994 (27 years, 10 months, 18 days)
Political Party: Malawi Congress Party

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.oldest.org/politics/presidents/&ved=2ahUKEwj89enH68n5AhWC_qQKHchCBpAQFnoECAsQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1hXoiobQ6WbyQiatqbR0H5

colorsofrainbow:
Lol okay but what's going on here in this image??

What are they sharing there? Easily predictable that something must have pushed these few to come visit kalu and after that,they clean mouth and become more OBIdient.

Omo Nigerians,if you can collect your share of last gifts and money from these corrupt souls,clean mouth and jejely vote Obi,do so now cos this election may be the last time it's happening before Obi takes over as president.

We no dey give shishi

You no dey give shishi? Even if you give you don't have anything to offer. Your candidate does not have any achievement in Anambra to campaign with so you can keep labouring in vain.

POs supporters are unserious ! They are given an opportunity to advertise their candidate and they are rejecting it.

What's the difference.? What was he implying? Obis supporters are funny. Exactly what Femi said about them !

mycar:
What do you call bogus claim? Is it the names of the students that benefited from his educational facilities or those in the banking and business sector?

For the attached, that was a handwork of his political opponents just like lies that urchins are posting upandan about him at the moment.

So, Tinubu did not produce doctors, engineers, architects, and so on. I Taya how you Obis supporters reason. See what Femi was talking about !

Why lie against Lagos? I think Sanwo Olu should revoke the Certificate of Occupancy of his house in Lagos where he lives.

Serious candidate. The man with a plan !

PO distributed laptops and notepads to Sec. schools without employing any computer teacher

Businessman deals called governance�

OkCornel:
Comparative analysis of Lagos to other mega cities in the world is meaningless. Really?

Is Nigeria that backward?

Since Tinubu did very well in Lagos, why is Lagos one of the worst mega cities in the world to live in?

Do they make the same revenue. Fyi the budget of the whole Nigeria is equivalent to that of one state in US. But Lagos is still better than Anambra now. Even the elites in Abuja have relocated fully to Lagos for fear of banditry. Obi also ran to Lagos because of unknown gunmen and you say we shouldn't compare. Tinubus Lagos is still the reference point in Nigeria.

Some people will not sleep tonight

OkCornel:
Read my last paragraph. You just did exactly what I predicted.

We are discussing Tinubu here. Not Atiku or Obi or Kwankwaso

Besides, are those reports of Lagos being amongst the worst cities in the world to live in factual or not? That’s the issue in focus.

Oga, what you wrote will be meaningless without comparative analysis - side by side. That's how to rate candidates for elections.