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SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:03am On Jan 15
lbrichman2:
Stop nagging like a woman
Grow up man!
Which one is nagging. I am pointing out where we went wrong and how we can learn from it you are talking nagging.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:02am On Jan 15
MKPUOGALIGA:
This Moroccan team is well coached and has been together for a while. We aren't necessarily better than them . They have been playing well for years
If they are better trained than us, then we press with intensity. Try to win them with athleticism and aggressiveness.

Press and transition.

Instead we let them have the ball.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:00am On Jan 15
MKPUOGALIGA:
This Moroccan team is well coached and has been together for a while. We aren't necessarily better than them . They have been playing well for years
More reason we were to press and prevent them from having that game. That was our best way to get chances and hit them with fast transitions.

Giving them the ball is showing unnecessary respect.

Letting them have the ball was absolutely disastrous.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:58pm On Jan 14
Dannyxy:
any press on the ball was a foul, that change the whole dynamic, we press we win balls it’s given as a foul
Let’s stop undermining the ref effect on this game
Keep pressing. Let the referee keep giving fouls. Better than sitting back and allowing them with the ball. Sitting back gives us little to know chance to attack.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:55pm On Jan 14
You have Chidera Ejuke and Chukwueze on the bench, you are bringing Dele Bashiru to play on the wings.

Just crazy stuff.

At least we let the Moroccans have the ball.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:53pm On Jan 14
Chelle needs to learn to tweak his system.

Yes, he instructed Iwobi to drop deep to help build play. Why not instruct the same from the forward line.

The Moroccans protected the offensive spaces. Drop the forward line deeper too. This would get them a chance with the ball.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:50pm On Jan 14
TheSuperNerd:
To be honest, the Moroccan press system in the middle was crazy. Onyedika struggled twice in possession. Iwobi also got caught a few times and had to withdraw way deeper than expected.
What about us? What stopped us from pressing? It just doesn't make sense.

I hope Chelle learns.

As soon as I saw that let them have the ball comment, my morale just fell.

What stopped us from pressing and stopping the Moroccans from building play.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:36pm On Jan 14
Goke7:
How can we press when our 50-50 duels upfront front is being frustrated by the refs
What concerns press and 50-50 duels?

You press when the opposition is with the ball.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:35pm On Jan 14
Las Las, we let Morocco have the ball as Chelle said.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:16pm On Jan 14
I don't know if it is me but for full 90mins and first half of Extra time, I am yet to see us press systematically to win the ball.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:27pm On Jan 14
Intensity and aggressiveness is what we need today. Do this and we shine tonight.

Best for the Super Eagles tonight.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:30am On Jan 14
TheSuperNerd:
Been musing over this. It is possible. If FDB does start, this means, Onyeka will likely be pushed to the Main CDM role with instructions to stay put, screen the defence and track dangers while FDB double pivots & RCMs. We will see shaa but there possibilities.

I don't by it. We need someone to read play defensively and break plays too. Ndidi does this nice and Onyedika can meet up with tactical reading.

Bringing Onyeka and bringing on Dele will kill our defensive edge, except Chelle expects the Moroccans to sit deep. Even at that I will prefer Onyedika to help shield during counters.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:27am On Jan 14
Subzero0477:
Being compact and stopping the opponents from playing is not an alien football philosophy that was invented by 'Sunday Oliseh', Eric Chelle is not going to him for advise my good man

I did not say Eric Chelle went to him for advise. I am speaking against his thought being influenced by suggestions.

That statement he made is what I heard from Oliseh in 2013 and Oliseh has preached it like a gospel.

I believe the statement came from their interaction and I hope Chelle does not see any logic in it.

Very simple point.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:46am On Jan 14
Unlimited22:
Unless you're Finidi George
Finidi's take was right.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:45am On Jan 14
Toylove:
If you’ve heard chelle speak a lot of times, he is a man that’s stubborn with his philosophy. Few moments with oliseh cannot sway him I believe

I also believe so.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:44am On Jan 14
jihday:
it was just a joke, one of the journalist at the press conference pointed it out, don’t know why many news outlet have been going about it like he meant it
Thank you for the clarification.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:44am On Jan 14
Kog45:
Suddenly Oliseh influenced Chelle and if anything goes wrong na to dey curse Oliseh abi,Kai
It is not about if anything goes wrong. But, if we decide to sit back and give control to the Moroccans. Well I don't see Chelle abandoning his principles.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:32am On Jan 14
Subzero0477:
Please don't tell me you mean this, I rate you more than that
Below is an excerpt of Oliseh before our Mozambique game. I first noticed it during Keshi's time.

SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:21am On Jan 14
Subzero0477:
Please don't tell me you mean this, I rate you more than that
Which one is rate again? Chelle used Oliseh's exact phrase and was with Oliseh not too long ago. It gave me chills and I hope it won't affect Chelle's train of thought.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:22pm On Jan 13
TheSuperNerd:
Chess Mind Games ooo. He said it kinda sarcastically.

I hope and pray so.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:00pm On Jan 13
TheSuperNerd:
Eric Chelle playing Chess Mind Games in the Pre-Match Press Conference today
This post gave me chills.

That statement is straight from the books of Oliseh and I can't help but reflect on the picture of Oliseh with Chelle in camp.

I hope Chelle is not listening to that Oliseh's give them the ball and take the win talk.

If Chelle tries it, Nigeria will be cooked.

Chelle should stick to his philosophy. That is what has gotten him this far and will take him to the cup.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:57pm On Jan 13
Meliforme:
We are talking about the basics and the fundamentals. This is primary education.

So your interpretation of John Stones movements is that formation is not important, and yet he returns back to his primary position.

Things won't be hard if we stick to the basics and build from there.
Let us not overcomplicate things.

Confusion is not a good companion.
No one is running down formation but what is most important is knowing when to make tactical adjustments over being stuck to rigid position.

Football is now more fluid than ever.

The point is simple and Finidi was 100% right.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:03pm On Jan 13
foxman04:
Formation is not constant, it has to change during the course of the game but it not all the time
In Finidi's Philosophy, he is more interested in players interpreting when to attack and defend.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:32pm On Jan 13
Meliforme:
My understanding of football formation at its basics is that a player primary role is determined by football formation.

The simple question is, do you agree or disagree?

We can't discuss how a certain football formation can aid a coach's approach to games, when we haven't even touched the basics.
In one of the recent seasons of Manchester City, John Stones repeatedly drifted into the midfield to support build up play.

His starting position as a center back, is not as important as him understanding when to drift into midfield and pull back.

I hope this elaborates this.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:30pm On Jan 13
foxman04:
I don't usually comment here but this thing wey you dey talk no follow, it's just like saying soldier going to war without formation, they will certainly die like Sufayo. gladiators as far back BC Have battle formation, Even the Pep you're referencing I can't count how many formation he's introduced, the man even gambled by experimenting a new formation in that champions League final against Chelsea and lost... If formation is as useless as you and guardiola think then why do we have Strikers, CB, right/left back, 11 players for just dey the field running around like it's street football
In a match, a team can end up playing up to four different shapes. So, the starting formation is not as important as the players understanding how to interpret and adapt to situations on the field.

Today we have players shift positions during play. Will you say the starting position is the most important thing? It isn't.

Finito.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:50pm On Jan 13
Meliforme:
Before we discuss football formation at a level further from its basics, I want us to arrive at certain basic conclusions.

Do you agree that football formation determines the primary role of a player?
Forget about my understanding. Make your position.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:27pm On Jan 13
Meliforme:
I am the source that contradicts his point, if he actually said that formation does not matter.

knowing when to attack and when to defend is down to a coach's philosophy and how he plans to win a game.
The timing of a team's attacking and defensive transitions can be aided by a football formation.

Before i delve into a more elaborate presentation of my opinion, what do you understand by a team being in an attacking or a defensive mode?
Your the one that wants to contradict. So my understanding is not in the context. Make your point and then I will concur or disagree.

Just keep in mind I have my understanding and philosophy of it.

So push on.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:22pm On Jan 13
Being a Guardiola fan and a soaker of his knowledge, one of the hardest lessons I learnt from him (Pep Guardiola is still learning it) is, a well coordinated and dominating possessive play can't be robbed by poor officiating.

If you complain about poor officiating, it means there are things you actually did wrong.

I hope Eric Chelle gets this into the mindset of our players. We have to play our system to perfection if we don't want poor officiating to get to us.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:19pm On Jan 13
Most important is keeping the ball away from our defense and penalty area.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:18pm On Jan 13
Onyedika is will have to play what I call the PUTTING OUT FIRE ROLE.

Meaning, when we lose the ball, he has to be in position to help break play before they get into our defensive third.

How will he do it?

Clean tactical fouls outside the box. Preferably far from our defense.

He has to maintain maximum concentration and monitor how far he trails from the defense.

Onyeka will also play a role in tracking runs.

Meaning Onyedika will monitor plugging spaces and Onyeka will track the runners.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m):
This is where Onyedika comes in. As much as we expect a lot from his short and long passing game, he is going to be most needed for a key role.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m):
Many might expect the Moroccans to come at us guns blazing but I don't see that.

When they do their detailed analysis of our team, they will know our possessive game from the back will put many pressing sides in trouble.

We are getting sound at playing out from the back and a press will create room for our attackers to exploit.

I expect the Moroccans to sit deep tomorrow and expect to hit us on fast counterattacks.

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