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SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:44am On Jan 14
Kog45:
Suddenly Oliseh influenced Chelle and if anything goes wrong na to dey curse Oliseh abi,Kai
It is not about if anything goes wrong. But, if we decide to sit back and give control to the Moroccans. Well I don't see Chelle abandoning his principles.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:32am On Jan 14
Subzero0477:
Please don't tell me you mean this, I rate you more than that
Below is an excerpt of Oliseh before our Mozambique game. I first noticed it during Keshi's time.

SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:21am On Jan 14
Subzero0477:
Please don't tell me you mean this, I rate you more than that
Which one is rate again? Chelle used Oliseh's exact phrase and was with Oliseh not too long ago. It gave me chills and I hope it won't affect Chelle's train of thought.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:22pm On Jan 13
TheSuperNerd:
Chess Mind Games ooo. He said it kinda sarcastically.

I hope and pray so.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:00pm On Jan 13
TheSuperNerd:
Eric Chelle playing Chess Mind Games in the Pre-Match Press Conference today
This post gave me chills.

That statement is straight from the books of Oliseh and I can't help but reflect on the picture of Oliseh with Chelle in camp.

I hope Chelle is not listening to that Oliseh's give them the ball and take the win talk.

If Chelle tries it, Nigeria will be cooked.

Chelle should stick to his philosophy. That is what has gotten him this far and will take him to the cup.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:57pm On Jan 13
Meliforme:
We are talking about the basics and the fundamentals. This is primary education.

So your interpretation of John Stones movements is that formation is not important, and yet he returns back to his primary position.

Things won't be hard if we stick to the basics and build from there.
Let us not overcomplicate things.

Confusion is not a good companion.
No one is running down formation but what is most important is knowing when to make tactical adjustments over being stuck to rigid position.

Football is now more fluid than ever.

The point is simple and Finidi was 100% right.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:03pm On Jan 13
foxman04:
Formation is not constant, it has to change during the course of the game but it not all the time
In Finidi's Philosophy, he is more interested in players interpreting when to attack and defend.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:32pm On Jan 13
Meliforme:
My understanding of football formation at its basics is that a player primary role is determined by football formation.

The simple question is, do you agree or disagree?

We can't discuss how a certain football formation can aid a coach's approach to games, when we haven't even touched the basics.
In one of the recent seasons of Manchester City, John Stones repeatedly drifted into the midfield to support build up play.

His starting position as a center back, is not as important as him understanding when to drift into midfield and pull back.

I hope this elaborates this.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:30pm On Jan 13
foxman04:
I don't usually comment here but this thing wey you dey talk no follow, it's just like saying soldier going to war without formation, they will certainly die like Sufayo. gladiators as far back BC Have battle formation, Even the Pep you're referencing I can't count how many formation he's introduced, the man even gambled by experimenting a new formation in that champions League final against Chelsea and lost... If formation is as useless as you and guardiola think then why do we have Strikers, CB, right/left back, 11 players for just dey the field running around like it's street football
In a match, a team can end up playing up to four different shapes. So, the starting formation is not as important as the players understanding how to interpret and adapt to situations on the field.

Today we have players shift positions during play. Will you say the starting position is the most important thing? It isn't.

Finito.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:50pm On Jan 13
Meliforme:
Before we discuss football formation at a level further from its basics, I want us to arrive at certain basic conclusions.

Do you agree that football formation determines the primary role of a player?
Forget about my understanding. Make your position.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:27pm On Jan 13
Meliforme:
I am the source that contradicts his point, if he actually said that formation does not matter.

knowing when to attack and when to defend is down to a coach's philosophy and how he plans to win a game.
The timing of a team's attacking and defensive transitions can be aided by a football formation.

Before i delve into a more elaborate presentation of my opinion, what do you understand by a team being in an attacking or a defensive mode?
Your the one that wants to contradict. So my understanding is not in the context. Make your point and then I will concur or disagree.

Just keep in mind I have my understanding and philosophy of it.

So push on.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:22pm On Jan 13
Being a Guardiola fan and a soaker of his knowledge, one of the hardest lessons I learnt from him (Pep Guardiola is still learning it) is, a well coordinated and dominating possessive play can't be robbed by poor officiating.

If you complain about poor officiating, it means there are things you actually did wrong.

I hope Eric Chelle gets this into the mindset of our players. We have to play our system to perfection if we don't want poor officiating to get to us.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:19pm On Jan 13
Most important is keeping the ball away from our defense and penalty area.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:18pm On Jan 13
Onyedika is will have to play what I call the PUTTING OUT FIRE ROLE.

Meaning, when we lose the ball, he has to be in position to help break play before they get into our defensive third.

How will he do it?

Clean tactical fouls outside the box. Preferably far from our defense.

He has to maintain maximum concentration and monitor how far he trails from the defense.

Onyeka will also play a role in tracking runs.

Meaning Onyedika will monitor plugging spaces and Onyeka will track the runners.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m):
This is where Onyedika comes in. As much as we expect a lot from his short and long passing game, he is going to be most needed for a key role.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m):
Many might expect the Moroccans to come at us guns blazing but I don't see that.

When they do their detailed analysis of our team, they will know our possessive game from the back will put many pressing sides in trouble.

We are getting sound at playing out from the back and a press will create room for our attackers to exploit.

I expect the Moroccans to sit deep tomorrow and expect to hit us on fast counterattacks.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:08pm On Jan 13
Meliforme:
Formation is the basis of football. It is the foundation.
Formation provides structure, organisation and role interpretation.

You can't discuss football tactics without player setup.
There are certain offensive maneuvres that will be very hard to implement if you do not set up your players in a certain formation.

Finidi said that formation does not matter.
No one can defend Finidi.

You have added a little twist by saying formation alone does not matter. You should have left it exactly the same way it was said.
The point is simple.

Formations is not that important.

If players interpret when to attack and defend and do it very well. There will not be any problem.


Meaning Finidi spends more time in players understanding how to interpret when to attack than defend. The formation set up is not as important as interpreting when to attack and defend.

There is nothing wrong in what Finidi said. He is 100% right.

Give a source that contradicts his point.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:59pm On Jan 13


How can Iwobi do this? This was brutal. 😂
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:59pm On Jan 13
Meliforme:
Pep Guardiola is not saying that formation does not matter.
He is simply telling you that a team can alter their setup during the course of a game, meaning that they can change or tweak formation.
The formation employed as the game started can be changed or tweaked as the game progresses.

Formation change or tweak is part of football tactics.

You cannot separate football formation from football tactics.
Finidi also did not say formation does not matter.

Finito.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:31pm On Jan 12
This still remains my best video off our win of Algeria. I can't wait for more nice videos after winning Morocco.

SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:20pm On Jan 12
lexyman:
No doubt, he was once rated as one of the best wingers in the world—but that does not automatically make him one of the best coaches in the world. And this has nothing to do with the criticism coming from a Nigerian.
Please point me to his world-class achievements as a coach—maybe I’m missing something. The only thing that would make me respect such a bold statement from him is if he had successfully coached a world-class club, or taken a national team to win something tangible, or at least delivered a truly significant result.

Gone are the days when words carried weight simply because of who was speaking. These days, everyone just wants to make a point. But he hasn’t done the work to back up such claims. His tenure actually set the Super Eagles back, and the situation we found ourselves in today was largely a result of his errors and poor approach.
After the long story, the fact is that Finidi was right.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:13pm On Jan 12
daveP:
this is not substantial pls
You just cracked me up. It is general knowledge.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:09pm On Jan 12
elyte89:
Wetin do me wey Dey queue 🙄
Lack of Experience.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:08pm On Jan 12
daveP:
Habaaaaaa!!! shocked
I said Yep.

SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:06pm On Jan 12
daveP:
Habaaaaaa!!! shocked
Yep.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:03pm On Jan 12
AndSunGorilla:
Chelsea or Man Utd?
Chelsea already has Rosenior. I don't think they can get someone like Xabi Alonso to bend to the stuff rules of Chelsea board. It is now a place for young managers.

I don't think a Liverpool legend will coach Manchester United. Not possible to me.

I think he will wait for the Liverpool job.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:01pm On Jan 12
daveP:
There's nothing that will wash him from the terrible job he did. Doing that in wcq again? No pr or whitewashing will be convincing cos we've NEVER extended such privileges to previous saboteurs. We roasted Oliseh for s terrible job but na Finidi we go kon pat rub? No be SE he go use do redemption. Let him do redemption elsewhere and convince us he is indeed different. undecided
Arteta was so poor with Arsenal that the board almost sacked him. It took Guardiola shouting that he was doing a good job that snapped them back to their senses.

As I said before. The process is more important than immediate results. Unfortunately, most are not patient.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:59pm On Jan 12
owbabs:
What if Eric Chelle leaves for Tunisia after AFCON and then the FIFA verdict favors Nigeria over Congo?
Samson Siasia takes over. He deserves it.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:59pm On Jan 12
lexyman:
thank you ... you said Manchester city coach ...Coaches like Guardiola, Mourinho, Zidane, Ancelotti, and others at that level can make statements like that—and be taken seriously.

Why? Because their ideas are backed by measurable success: trophies, tactical evolution, and consistent results at the highest level.

Not a coach like Finidi.

Without tangible achievements to support such claims, saying “formation doesn’t matter” is simply too heavy. Formation may not be everything, but dismissing it requires authority earned through success.

In football, credibility comes from what you’ve done, not just what you say.

That statement carries weight only when it comes from those who have proven they understand the game at its highest level.
please understand my point , maybe i am too Old Skool
Simple. Finidi was right. Many criticized because it came from a Nigerian. If Guardiola or Mourinho said it, many will accept but a Nigerian? No way.

Forgetting his CV. He was rated at one time the best winger in the world. Worked with some of the best managers in the game.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:54pm On Jan 12
TheSuperNerd:
Real Madrid sacks Xabi Alonso. Woah.

Alvaro Arbeloa takes over.

The Repeated El Classico defeat bites.
See something.

Mbappe is a problem.

SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:44pm On Jan 12
zicky:
i thought you had mentioned Guardiola or Van Gaal, Mr defender of the universe
Manchester City manager Pep Guardiola insists that formations “are nothing more than phone numbers”.

The implication is that his players move from their positions so much that the stated formation they start in does not in fact matter. The players are so rarely in that shape that there is barely any need to name the formation.

If Tuchel and Glasner are too small for you.

Finidi is 100% right.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:37pm On Jan 12
lexyman:
i am not saying he was wrong ...My point is simple: Finidi does not have the authority to make that claim, because he has not done the right things to support it.

Saying “formation doesn’t matter” is incomplete and misleading. Formation may not be everything, but it is still a critical part of the game. You cannot dismiss it casually—especially when you lack measurable success to back up such a position.

Authority in football discussions comes from results, proven tactical work, and consistent success. Without these, opinions remain just that—opinions..... what i am saying is that , that claim too heavy for him to speak about . until he gets to that height in his career .
Manchester City manager Pep Guardiola insists that formations “are nothing more than phone numbers”.

The implication is that his players move from their positions so much that the stated formation they start in does not in fact matter. The players are so rarely in that shape that there is barely any need to name the formation.

The point is simple.

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