komekn:


I would disagree

I've known Rhian Brewster since he was 14 and I thought he was good but not world class incredible. And he won the golden boot at U17 level for England.

He is now languishing in Sheffield United trying to find relevance in a system that does not suit his skill set.

Although he is laughing all the way to the bank decent wages after a £21 million transfer from Liverpool.

komekn:


You are being fluid and suggestive without specifics.

Please 🥺 to achieve what exactly ❓

Napoleon55:

Now u understand what we have been saying about past players,about how good and technical they were to interpret any tactical set up.
But u continue to believe they won't b able to cope with today's intensity of the game.

komekn:


Calling them stars is premature.

Some of them are already showing exceptional ability and could be future stars then some have already arrived and are stars already players like Jude Bellingham for instance.

The terminology stars is very ambiguous what you call a star ⭐ Brazil is very different from what you call a star in Nigeria. The standard are not the same.

For instance 17 year old Endrick Felipe Moreira de Sousa has already played three seasons in the top flight of Brazil premier 1st tier league. He scored against England it is uncontestable to call him a star.

You are too quick to players stars in my opinion. Then it becomes a matter of context, there are star footballers on my old street in Warri. But that is strictly local street stars. They are not stars in the context of world 🌎 top level youth players. They are what you may call local champions 🏆

You then created a parameters to qualify players as stars ⭐ ⭐ and that being once you have played for your national team. Not all national teams have the same quality, you will not find any low level quality players playing for the top 10 seeded team in the world.

You then put Omeruo who at the very best is bang very average defender, in the same list with Casemiro, Neymar, Allison,etc that's Ludicrous and comedic 😅.

I don't look at Nigerian 🇳🇬 players in isolation but in comparison to the top players before calling them exceptional. You look at them mostly in isolation that's being biased unrealistic.

For instance people have called Tijani one of the best young midfielders in Europe at 22. Dude is playing in the Austrian league that's delusional.

It's the same narrative many of you have about Nwakali, Dude has done absolutely nothing beyond youth football ⚽ 8 years ago. You look at him in isolation and give unmerited accolades. His team has been in relegation since day one literally. You exaggerate his very very limited attributes to the point of absurdity.

There are hundreds of Nigerian born players across Europe what's the obsession with mediocrity.

Kog45:
I think it’s hard for many to believe that Kanu had very averaged performance in eagles based on his exploits in Europe…two APOTY winners,Atlanta 96,Under 17 WC and numerous clubs achievement like UCL winner with Ajax and great performances with Arsenal the invincible.

But fact,he wasn’t spectacular with eagles but had very great moments during 2002 WC qualifiers,his pairing with Agali was great,both scoring 4 goals apiece.

I don’t know how Nigeria fans would have rate another CF with 5 Afcons and 3 WCs with no goal,87 appearances and 12 goals.Despite Ighalo and Emenike feats in Afcon and eagles peoples still see them as below average CF.

Kanu brought smiles to us during Atlanta 96 and Nigerians will always rate Kanu based on that performance and as thegoodjoe said Atlanta team was literary super eagles.

Tflex01:
How Obi became a saint and messiah overnight is still a mystery to sane minds.

TheSuperNerd:
This guy is a beast now. Adept at LCB and LB. Good in a four man defence and a three man defence. One of the best defensive players in world football today. Haba.

PS: Messi dealt with him at the WC shaa. But that is Messi-One of the GOATs. And Josko was younger then. He's matured his game even better since 2022.

charlesemeka85:
I prefer cele abeg. US 94 group were over hyped

The only problem Cele had was indiscipline if not he would hv lasted longer playing both for the national team and top leagues in Europe

After Cele I will even pick Taiwo ahead of Iroha

Marjoribanks:
The only left back to have scored at an AFCON semi finals! Ben Iroha's goal against the Ivorians from Okocha's pass remains one of AFCON's greatest goal.
Similar only to Ikpeba's against Tunisia from Kanu's pass!

Ben Iroha all day!

Modern left back before "so-called" modern football!

Mujtahida:

I don't like tiki taka. It has nothing to do with people. I'm talking system. I like Johanne Cryuff but I don't like tiki taka which he developed. I'm indifferent towards Guardiola.

Whatever style a coach adopts, let it sha not be tiki taka. Simple.

Mujtahida:

I don't have problem with possession football. I have problem with tiki taka which is just one out of many variations of possession football

Kog45:
South America teams don’t joke with under age tournaments so cuz Messi played in 2008 Olympics then we should rate the tournament at par with WC.

Kog45:
We are talking Super eagles not underage tournament.

Kog45:
We are talking Super eagles not underage tournament.

komekn:


The proposition presented is based on the 2009 U17 tournament. That proposition presented the notion that so many stars were created, found, discovered from the tournament.

I disagree completely with the entire notion.

With regards to Nigeria Omeruo was classed as a star alongside Neymar, Coutinho, Casemiro, Allison, etc by this particles contributor.

Let me first of banish this notion that the U17 World cup is somehow the place that footballs best and most talented players are discovered. That's a nonsense in the context of world 🌍 football ⚽.

The best youth players are discovered playing in football teams across the globe and after outstanding performancescin club and league selected for national age grade teams. Not the other way round.

For instance Obi Arsenal most prolific 16 year old striker playing for both U18 and 21 has played for both Denmark and England age grade teams. His performanced in club and league got him noticed not selection for age grade national youth teams.

England had only recently taken U17 national football a bit more serious.

We should not be talking about age grade competitions prior to 2015 . Where we had confirmed Uncles like Stanley Okoro, Fortune Chukwudi, Sami, Onazi, etc but of course Omeruo was actually 15 if you want to believe.

Finally, maybe we should redefine what we mean by stars, because at every level there are stars. Village stars, local stars and world class stars like Neymar, Allison, etc.

Kog45:
I want us to give fair assessment to our judgments regarding the trio.

Ben Iroha was a solid member of Westerhoff era and did so well.He has below Europe career.He won Afcon and had two WC appearances.What could have been his best tournament was marred with injury and Mike Emenalo step in.He had 50 caps and a goal.

Celestine Babayaro remain the best talking of European career.He played for Anderlecht,Chelsea and Newcastle.He played in two WC and was a regular member of eagles in the late 90 to mid 2000 with Afcons appearances.But I will rate his super eagles career average 27 caps and a goal.

Taye Taiwo would have been the best Nigeria LB.He started well with Marseilles but his transfer to AC Milan ruined his progression and he never recovered from it.He played in a WC and had Afcon appearances.He had good eagles career with 54 caps and 8 goals.

My submission,based on Europe career I gave it to Celestine Babayaro…..On trophy I gave it to Ben Iroha cus he was part of eagles that was ranked 5th in the world…..Ranking Taye Taiwo the best eagles LB would bring debate but If he was part of 2013 Afcon team he would have been adjudged the best cuz having 54 caps with 8 goals showed how solid he was with eagles.

I hope to see emerging talent that will break Iroha,Babayaro and Taye records in eagles.

Napoleon55:

The way you hate this tiki taka eh.

Tiki taka is not that bad when it's being executed by talented and gifted players.
we did enjoy it with Barcelona, in the era of Xavi,Neymar,Messi,Iniesta, Suarez and co.

It only becomes distasteful when you have a bunch of ungifted players playing it.

Mujtahida:

May tiki taka perish!

Mujtahida:

None of these things matters in picking a coach. All these na Guardiola assistant or whoever assistant is wooly talk. Perform. Simple.

Napoleon55:

The way you hate this tiki taka eh.

Tiki taka is not that bad when it's being executed by talented and gifted players.
we did enjoy it with Barcelona, in the era of Xavi,Neymar,Messi,Iniesta, Suarez and co.

It only becomes distasteful when you have a bunch of ungifted players playing it.

zicky:
i hope I'm not wrong if I say this very tournament produce the highest number of stars compare to other u-17.

elyte89:
https:///jargobann/status/1786389585242513474?s=46&t=ElaT6nzZi3oItk_k-FUtIg


How coach finidi wants his team to play

mostob:
Just wondering.... Do you follow EBL on Twitter? You will definitely be interested in his contents. He plans to release two threads about Arne Slot this afternoon.

lbrichman2:


Massive...

lbrichman2:


Massive...

lbrichman2:


Yeah, Arne Slot would be taking over
He's the current Coach of Feyernood I think
He won the Eredivisie last season

lbrichman2:


Yeah, Arne Slot would be taking over
He's the current Coach of Feyernood I think
He won the Eredivisie last season

AndSunGorilla:

The dutch guy currently coaching Feyenord, Arne Slot i believe.

lbrichman2:
Liverpool interested in Osimhen
I've been expecting this news
I think he would be a good fit for them..

Whaf do you think guys?
Let's discuss

humility33:


So u want us to list the European and American stars that rose from their league too...I mean same version of NPFL in their country? And never played in the under 17 world cup

Sugarboyy:

This should tell you that I'm not a newbie over here but despite that, I do not spend my whole day on Nairaland, unlike you.
From that 2017 to now, I don hustle, I don travel out and returned 3 times, and today I have become so busy with working because I need to take care of my family ( a wife and a son). Can same be said about you? This should tell your that your life is wasting away over her. If you don't know, I'm Kinginvalhalla

Kog45:
This discussion is strictly Nigeria U17 and NPFL or did you see me mentioning any foreigners 😀