₦airaland Forum

agabaI23:
Has he given you the accounts he wired the monies of the others you believed? No but you believed all the same. Why not believe the buhari case? Even Buhari accepted that he collected something from him only that refused to accept that of $300k.

I did not say it is right, I said it is normal to be accused. Justice Salami who was found be paid by the APC? It is unfair to say that GEJ restricted the Judiciary. The Judiciary never had the freedom they had under GEJ. GEJ allowed cases against him to run free course and paid compensations like he did to those whose newspapers were confiscated by overzealous deputies. Many election cases the PDP were lost to the opposition. Haba mana

Situation is not similar. You could get another birth certificate if you wanted. And in the situation, a self aclaimed maigaskya should have told us the truth or gotten a certified copy from Cambridge instead of forging his cert. The principal that forged that has an appointment in Katsina. It is shameful bro. Don't argue this.

He was serious and so was Deziani but the house was not keen. The house was APC house anyway. They however passed at their last seating after making a silly change that oil producing community includes everyone from Borno to Bayelsa. Already the Northerners have said the PIB should be discarded and I predicted that if it was not passed before the end of last administration, it was as good as dead. if you remember Wikileaks, you will remember that many of the election of many of the Northern law makers was funded by the multinationals. This is one of the reason the original PIB was watered down. Senate could not do anything. The US and EU would not want the bill passed and trust me, if GEJ had anther term, the bill was as good as passed. 
Link for the reversal of the autopolicy:https://www.nairaland.com/2547095/apc-slash-tariffs-imported-cars. The punch link is now dead. I read that link when the thread was published on nairaland.

As a dictator yea. He was supposed to act tough. But he out cap in hand asking them to help with his budget. The first thing he did after taking office was to travel to the US without a cabinet, no plan, no nothing....ridiculous

You do such when you have enough local capacity. GEJ did not postponed the ban on importation of rice and auto tarrif hike up to 3 times because at the projected start date, he would check local production to confirm if local capacity can support local demand. In cases, like the rice case, ban was not complete. Some level of importation was approved. Even with the slide in the value of naira, the cost of rice is still fairly stable why?

But, I do not support the either of importing toothpick and Sugar with our scarce forex. You should allow me to use my naira card outside the country. It is very convenient.

That action was carried out by his overzealous deputies. Of course he accepted responsibility. He was taken to court by the newspaper union and he opted to pay compensation and settled out of court. I cannot point at an absolute model but I can confidently point at a dictator maruding as a democrat

Apologies sir The phrase was just handy at that time.

agabaI23:
Wow, thank God for his protection. I be think say amu robas no dey do again. God will protect us oo.
Sorry about that. it was easier for me

agabaI23:
You got me wrong. I have no problems with Metuh being remanded. The Judge thought it wise. What if the Judge had granted the bail request.
What is the difference between the highlighted and Peter Odili's case?

You know another thing I hate? Hypocrites! See below
~ Shehu Sani

agabaI23:
You've been writing for over an hour hmmm
@theV0ice

agabaI23:
The $300K he gave to him was for what? he was a saboteur. One of the first statements he made was that APC was not being fair to him. He said he had intels that would have been against them but he refused to act on them. Who does that? The so called APC guy that EFCC arrested who allegedly returned N100m, has not been jailed. Why? N100m was from Dasuki or not?

Every government is accused of that. GEJ's government was accused of phone tapping and so on. Every government interfere with privacy to extent. Buhari is ridiculing the Judiciary

Everyone will and those who cannot can get a reprint. At least Cambridge hinted that they could release information on that if he authorized them which he refused to do. BTW, are you insinuating that when you turn 72 that you won't know where you School cert is?

I can remember saying that. I did not think he would do that. What I believed he would do has all be done. he has rversed the auto policy for instance, the PIB is resting in peace etc

With the help an Isreali mechinery, any government can be embarrassed. But APC went over drive because it was rumoured GEJ involved mechinaries in Boko war

What did IMF come to Nigeria to do? IMF just told Buhari that they will send a team of experts to look into your budget if it is eventually found. She told them in plain terms, this is bollocks.. That is not my point. Ignoring JPM index did not prevent international business men from working with it. You are aware of the amount of funds that has left the system and those that changed direction. GE health wasnted to invest $40 billion in Nigeria. Their plan was to set up by July, his delay made them shift to September, then November and now it is almost not talked about. He refused to devalue the naira but naira sells $305/$ because of his policy. He has been forced to reverse the no dollar deposit policy anyway. he is a puppet and he is still being manipulated. Watch it, he will sign the EU-Africa treaty ( I pray he does not). It was one of the reasons they turned against GEJ because the refusal runs against the raw material initiative. Do you know why they banned the exportation of beans and some other commodities? It is manipulation. Before the lift the ban as they will do this year, they demand that he signs the treaty. They don't want to take chances and I am sure he will bend over backwards and get rammed. The autopolicy does not favour the US. After Wheat which makes up 25% of Nigeria imports from the US, the next is used vehicles at 21% (2011 figures) The cost of wheat import in 2011 was $1.2 billion. By 2013, GEj had reduced importation from the US by 38.8%. Wheat importation was considerably affected. Cost of wheat import went down to $962 million. Guess what, the cost of vehicles imported went up to $1.3 billion. You know that is very true. that's a market, the US was not ready to also lose and with the Agric revolution under the bow tie minister, Wheat importation wet further down. With the Autopolicy, your guess is as good as mine. Buahri has reversed the gains. Ban on rice importation by GEJ and the immediate reversal by your oga?

Where did I say he is my model democrat?
If you did not have freedom of the press, you would not have won the election. And like I said, the same tool will be different in different hands

He is not qualified to wear the shoes of LKY. LKY used unothodox methods with his brainand it worked. Buhari has no plan and he is an outright dictator and a sectionalist and like many dictators, he reasons with his anus.
http://photos.state.gov/libraries/nigeria/487468/pdfs/April%20Trade%20Fact%20Sheet%202012.pdf
https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/africa/west-africa/nigeria

agabaI23:
One thing I hated so much and i still hate is the use of court injunctions to Arrow justice just like Peter odili. However, what I hate more is ridiculing the court when it suits by refusing to obey court Judgement when it does not suit.

Metuh is remanded in prison custody and DSS/EFCC are happy but if he was granted bail, they would have concocted another useless charge to arrest him and hold him down.

It does not help our Judiciary when they are made to believe they must dance to the tune of the Executive

LordAdam:
Too many reasons to stop replying you. Keep it up mate, reality will soon hit you like a sledgehammer.

-Lord

LordAdam:
Stop being one-sided. The Judiciary needs a reform, sure, but when PMB took the oath, he swore to uphold the constitution. Since that is the case, he can impress on the Chief Justice to wade into the rot in his arm of government. Not flout court orders.

He is doing the wrong thing, the wrong way.

You are encouraging impunity, and I can affirmatively say that it will come to haunt you guys later. Already, Tompolo is flouting a court order. You cannot be the President and the Chief Justice of the Federation, it is not done.

Swerve jor. Fine, Singapore is a developed nation today because of the stance of Lee Kuan Yew, but there are many problems with Singapore today. The opposition in Singapore is silent and demonstrations are frowned upon. That is not someone GEJ would want to model.

[size=5pt]US, UK, Europe, Israel all became developed without the iron-fist.

Are you going to compare Hitler to PMB next? Hitler made Germany a World Power and massively sanitized the reckless German polity prior when he became a Fuhrer. Does that make him a saint?

You are comparing Lee whose iron-fist made sense in the 1980's with Jonathan who ruled in a time when the world is gravitating more towards democracy and the respect for rule of law.

Look at Libya? Why was Gadaffi removed, even though Libya was much better with him in power than now? Look at Mubarak and Egypt?

Iron-fists may have worked in the 80's, but not now. We are in the 21st century. If PMB continues like this, a revolt may start, and all the little gains we may have gained as a nation will be lost.

If you want iron-fist leadership, enter the military. Under civilian rule, there are established tenets that must be followed.

You are making a mockery of the system. So if a common market thief is caught, he or she should decline to argue his case because the Judiciary system is corrupt? Can you hear yourself.

You need to be shipped to North Korea since you like a tyrant. After what this country saw under Abacha, you still want a tyrant.[/size] How old are you?

Be careful what you wish for!!!

-Lord

agabaI23:
theV0ice

Mike Ugwonye was arrested for addressing Buhari disrespectfully, LKY would institute a libel suit if it was worth the hassles.

agabaI23:
@theV0ice

The solution to the problem of the court and corrupt Judges in the confab recommendation which I know the APC will not implement. A lot of the issues we have today was address. The court, lawyers and Judges exploit the loophole in the 1999 Military hastely prepared constitution to escape justice.

To strengthen our Democracy, the best foot forward is to amend those sections and most of the sections were addressed.

Tell Buhari to implement the confab report

agabaI23:
Before I move on, I don't have sympathy on any PDP politician especial Dasuki who was funding GEJ's opponent and the PDP guys who instead of campaigning pocketed the money meant for campaign. It is called Karma.

To be Honest, I know about LKY, his magical unorthodox transformation and I know he worked within the rule of law to ensure economic stability.

My friend, I am really not happy that you are comparing Buhari with this man A Cambridge graduate of law who entrenched meritocracy cannot be compared with Buhari who cannot produce his Cambridge WAEC certificate and openly combines cronyism and sectionalism as an effective means of oppression and division.

LKY was criticized for limiting civil liberty but he that effectively using the law.
his election was not funded by any looter, he became popular because of he was at the forefront of kicking Britain away. But here we have a British and American Puppet who is dragging us several steps back into the NEO-SLAVERY system controlled by the West.

Do not compare an apple and a rotten egg.

modath:
ThevOice...

Over correct you, see why I adopted you as my E-bros..


@ Agabai23,

My bros don answer for the 2 of us, nothing to add... You still my gee though.

agabaI23:
The people you mentioned were outright dictators. Yes We have other dictators who held things down for their country like Ghadaffi until he was deposed.

In those cases, they never claimed to be born again democrats. They told America to shove their democracy into their pieholes.

But here, we are talking about someone who claimed to be a changed person and after he was voted in decided to live out the life of his 1984 administration.

Don't forget that for every dictator that got it right, there at least 20 others that get it wrong. I can count so many for you in Africa before going to Far East. Mugabe easily comes to mind. Burundi is boiling, Congo DR etc.

A lawless society hardly progresses. Do not support illegality get you outa a corner

LordAdam:
I am not surprised that most APC zombies would rather return to pre-1999 military rule and its numerous gaffes/excesses than stay in a modern democracy with a respect for rule of law.

I will leave you with this quote by Benjamin Franklin



To add, "nor will they receive any."

Two wrongs don't make a right. It is morally wrong to become a leader through democracy and act as though autocracy gave you the power.

Posterity will judge wolves and hypocrites like you for imposing a man that insults the Nigerian constitution, our democracy, and our pride because of misplaced hate of a select few.

Anything worth doing is worth doing well/right!!!

cc Omenka, Passingshot, modath, NgeneUkwenu

-Lord

On opinion polls:

“I have never been overconcerned or obsessed with opinion polls or popularity polls. I think a leader who is, is a weak leader. If you are concerned with whether your rating will go up or down, then you are not a leader. You are just catching the wind ... you will go where the wind is blowing. And that’s not what I am in this for.”
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“Between being loved and being feared, I have always believed Machiavelli was right. If nobody is afraid of me, I’m meaningless.”

“You take a poll of any people. What is it they want? The right to write an editorial as you like? They want homes, medicine, jobs, schools.”

On his iron-fisted governing style:

“Anybody who decides to take me on needs to put on knuckle-dusters. If you think you can hurt me more than I can hurt you, try. There is no way you can govern a Chinese society.”

“If you are a troublemaker... it’s our job to politically destroy you... Everybody knows that in my bag I have a hatchet, and a very sharp one. You take me on, I take my hatchet, we meet in the cul-de-sac.”

"Whoever governs Singapore must have that iron in him. Or give it up. This is not a game of cards."

On justice:

“We have to lock up people, without trial, whether they are communists, whether they are language chauvinists, whether they are religious extremists. If you don’t do that, the country would be in ruins.”

On micromanagement:

"I am often accused of interfering in the private lives of citizens. Yes, if I did not, had I not done that, we wouldn't be here today. And I say without the slightest remorse, that we wouldn't be here, we would not have made economic progress,

Nigerian Muslim leaders on Wednesday in Abuja proposed that the National Hajj Commission should adopt the Malaysian system of Hajj operations as the Federal Government would no longer fund pilgrimages in the country.

Under the Malaysian system, intending pilgrims are said to be registered 30 years ahead of the year of their intended Hajj while money paid will be used for other business activities.

The Sultan of Sokoto and President-General, Nigerian Supreme Council for Islamic Affairs, Alhaji Muhammad Sa’ad Abubakar, stated this position at the end of a three-day post-Hajj stakeholders’ meeting organised by NAHCON at the National Mosque.

According to him, stakeholders in the Muslim faith would soon meet again on new modalities for Hajj operations in the country.

The Sultan accompanied by the Head of 2015 Hajj Muslim Leaders Coordinating Team and Emir of Kano, Alhaji Sanusi Muhammadu II, stated that the stakeholders’ meeting became imperative to fashion out better ways through which Hajj exercise would take place without government sponsorship.

He also cited an example of what was obtainable in the Malaysia and some other Islamic countries.

According to him, the withdrawal of government sponsorship was not an aberration, adding that Muslims must find ways of meeting up the challenge of organising Hajj operations to ensure smooth operations and success.

The Sultan said, “We will put up a paper to the government and see any part of the law that can be amended to improve Hajj activities. The 2015 Muslim Hajj was successful but very challenging, especially due to the crane collapse and the stampede. The government has withdrawn sponsorship and we have to put extra efforts to ensure that success was recorded for this year’s exercise.

“A stakeholder’s meeting would soon be held on how to make Hajj operations independent of government sponsorship and we are looking at the way it is being done in Malaysia, Indonesia and other countries”

The NAHCON’s Commissioner (Planning, Research Information and Library Services), Dr. Saleh Okenwa, said the meeting was held in three days to afford all stakeholders the opportunity to present and address issues that arose in the 2015 Hajj and fashion out ways for improvement.

He said a committee had been set up to work out modalities for the adoption of the Malaysia system of Hajj operation as a way forward after government withdrawal from hajj sponsorship.

According to him, under the Malaysian system, intending pilgrims are registered 30 years ahead of the year of their intended Hajj while monies paid will be used for other business activities.

It was learnt that in many countries with large Muslim population and a high demand for the Hajj, the Indonesian government had put in place an elaborate system for determining who goes and when.

Intending pilgrims who declare their intention to perform Hajj must pay at least $2,000, that is almost a full year’s pay at minimum wage in Jakarta, the capital, where minimum wage is said to be higher than anywhere else in the country, or almost three year’s pay for the more than 43 per cent of Indonesians who live on less than $2 a day, according to a 2011 World Bank data.

The payment secures a spot on a waitlist, which varies in length by region: 12 years at best, 17 at worst. Meanwhile, the money goes into a government-run Hajj fund controlled by the Religious Affairs Ministry.

In his own address, Sanusi said that the Ulamas would work out the differences in Hajj rite and come up with a position.

He said also that it was important for stakeholders to evolve new strategies that would ensure that Muslim pilgrims got better treatment especially in the face of government withdrawal of sponsorship in hajj operations.

The Chairman, House of Representatives Committee on Foreign Affairs, Nnenna Ukeje, said the National Assembly would continuously work for ways to ensure better treatment for Nigerians on pilgrimage.

Earlier in his welcome address, NAHCON Chairman/CEO, Abdullahi Mukhtar Muhammad, had said the stakeholders’ meeting would be continuous for better hajj operations.

agabaI23:
Well your answer means he is still the soldier and the dictator. I would have preferred he acted like a democrat. Many of the campaign promises have been shown to be mere rhetorics. It is bad enough when you get such from a politician but worse when politician is Buhari, the self acclaimed Mr integrity.

omohayek:
The difference between Spain and Nigeria lies in the fact that in Spain, one can't wheel out the old "na our daughter"/"na my person"/"na my kinsman" defense Nigerians always bring up to protect one of their own.

agabaI23:
To my friends, has Buhari changed? Is he now the born again Democrat like he claimed? modath, theVoice, lalasticlala

Masculity:
so if arm rober give u money police no go arrest u abi? Kontinio

agabaI23:
Always replying with some reasonable logic which sometimes apply to APC alone Lol. OK naa but I try my best not to use that technique

doctokwus:
My guy he doesn't have any angle to explore!
It has been established that the money was from proceeds of an illegal crime. Whether he knows or not doesn't concern anybody.He has to refund it, and how he sources for it, if he has spent the original,is also no concern of anybody.
These people just try to exploit people's gullibility.In the western world, is anyone interested in if u knew that proceeds of money u collected were from a crime? The only leniency they MAY grant u is not to prosecute after u MUST have returned every dollar!

Omotolu:
...Falae is exploring an unintelligent reasoning. Dasuki gave the money to Anenih;Anenih gave the money to the SAP man, Falae; and dispatching of fund stop with him. He exploring a poor man argument...

Omotolu:
...so you expect his attornies to tell him he has no point. The lawyers are only interested in certain % of #100m....

fulanimafia:
He should quit grandstanding and do the needful bro.

IgrigiEOD:
**grins** This was why i was laughing initially. Chai yoruba will always be yoruba. Now that a top yorubaman is involved, you'll see them tone down their voices. I will continue laughing, as i know what is coming in future for yoruba leaders in the hands of fulani tyrants.Check your history you'll know why. **grins**

fulanimafia:
More like in boiling liquid magma.

Since when did SDP become an auxiliary arm of the PDP? What is the validity of the 'agreement' with regard to our electoral laws?

jejemanito:
ehen then he should give the money back to Anenih who will give it to Dasuki who then will hand it over to EFCC

Wetin hard for there?

princemillla:
Still, those ground are more solid than rock. Cuz he doesn't av to know the source of the money in question. You bring a deal, I consent to it. We strike deal, that's all.

BlackPeni5:
You give stupidity new meaning with this justification.

raumdeuter:
Technically he has a point. So EFCC has to drag Anenih to refund the money Dasuki gave him.

If Anenih likes he can reach out to Falae to refund his part, Otherwise Anenih can pay it from his pocket

fulanimafia:
Yeah there's some merit to his argument, but we need to hear Anenih's defence as well based on his bold statement that Anenih should fry alone.