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iamoyindamola:
Na to remove Bruno once CR7 come cos he's good as useless

Exactly wetin dey my mind. Lukaku things.

thorrvik55:
Deep down Bruno Penandes would be praying Ronaldo does not end up an Man-U cos Ronaldo arrival would mean no PK for him to statpad with again

Exactly.

And he will bully Cavani off the number 7 shirt

It appears Man United have hijacked Ronaldo. Man City have pulled out.

Sanchez transfer all over again.

Bville02:
Ibime isn't totally wrong about Jorginho though. In as much as his Win is a Chelsea win tonight, he is a system player and that is quite obvious to everyone. He is very lucky to be in the starting lineup in Italy and Chelsea.

This is his peak and there is absolutely nothing special about. Just shows of basic performances through our champion's league win and Italy's Euro's win.

His win today is Chelsea's win and I'd absolutely take that.

This is so NOT true.

What do you mean by luck? Make una dey think before una type na. What is the luck in Jorginho being a mainstay in Chelsea and Italy setup?

Man City vs PSG

Oil Classico

Ronaldo vs Messi all over again, potentially.

Ibime just hold this L.

No need to shalaye. Just hold am.

ALEXAPLAYME:
Mendy damn. This guy is gone

He has been suspended by City.

BlueAngel444:
fancy? No. Tough? Yes

Draft your preferred group let me see.

Almajirihunter:
Sheriff ; D, we need easy draws to focus on that league properly, think that’s our season’s priority

You dey fear AC Milan? Lol... They are in pot 4 for a reason.

I want early reunion with Giroud and Fikayo

Lana1:
Italian and Ukranian opponents after a UCL win.

It will be like action feem when things turn out the way they did last time

We won the Italians. Na the Ukrainians pour san san for our garri.

MorataFC:
I prefer to meet psg in the group stage than to meet them in round of 16.

Meeting them in Group stage doesn't mean we won't meet them later in the competition. We can still meet them in quarters or semis..

popizaino:
Was jorginho the best player at Chelsea last season?

I'm not the person to start going round and round in an arguement with.

You gave an analogy which I want to break down first before giving you my response.

You specifically gave Jorginho 6th. Not 2nd not 3rd not 4th not 10th not 21st but 6th.... I want to know where you get that 6th from. Who awarded him 6th on anything?

I fancy this group...

Chelsea
Borussia Dortmund
Shakhtar Donetsk
AC Milan

Tough but we can top the group.

popizaino:
Name your top 5 players at Chelsea based on last season

I asked you a question. Who awarded Jorginho 6th in the class?

Third kit.

Yay or Nay?

Ibime:
Has Tuchel played this formation consistently before?

This formation was only for one reason - lack of a functional DM, so required another defender to cover the runs from midfield.

Tuchel could sneak through tournament football but we haven't forgotten how Aston Villa, West Brom, Leicester, West Ham and co were peppering us and dominating us too regularly for our liking.

First priority is striker, that's a £100m spend. We can manage the system for now to prioritise a striker signing.

You of all people should tone down this tournament/league narrative.

We were all here when you were so sure that 343 never win UCL before. But what happened?

Kounde and Saul deals are almost done. If DM is what will make Tuchel play his preferred formation/tactics and bin the liability, we would have been on the verge of signing a DM now, not Kounde and Saul.

Ibime:
Chelsea does not have another specialist DM except him. Kante maybe but he is too useful in the CM.

And you think if getting a proper DM will make Tuchel play his preferred tactics instead of "accommodating a liability", we wouldn't have signed a DM since?

We badly needed a focal point man, we wasted no time in landing Lukaku. Don't you think that if Jorginho was spoiling Tuchel's tactics, we wouldn't have made DM a top priority in the market?

popizaino:
. It's 160, corrected.

Now answer this ....Was jorginho among the top 5 best players for us last season?

Before I answer you that, who gave Jorginho 6th in the class? We all know that the 1st you mentioned is him winning the POTY award. But the 6th, who awarded him 6th?

Havertz10:
if I talk now, you will remind me that you have broad chest and if we meet in person you will beat me up

Ibime is sulking, I don't sulk, I readily accept L when wrong, i'm both bayesian and frequentist, my opinions are fluid, i'm open to new information, I like to learn and i'm shameless about it, me and ibime aren't alike abeg

Ibime's post gives the impression that he wanted the team to fail just so his "agenda" works. This was the same thing you did with Havertz sometime ago.

That is why I mentioned you. I never said both of you are alike in everything.

Ibime:
Consistency in the league will prove whether protecting him by parking bus works consistently. Anyone can park bus to win a tournament with specific preparation and tactical instructions, but parking bus to win 30 out of 38 games is a different kettle of fish.

So far as I see, no Chelsea manager has had a different profile of DM to work with so of course they will do what they have to do with what's available.

Protecting a liability and benching him, which one is easier?

Trevor012:
I think he simply means Jorginho is not a top5 player for Chelsea or Italy so how come he is winning best player in Europe if not juju. I might be wrong.

So who made Jorginho 6th in the class? Which award placed him 6th?

Ibime:
What happened to Mikel and Ramires? Did they go on to build the future of Chelsea or lead us into disasters and had to be replaced.

I don't like snail DMs. You will never get me to like snail DMs. That's like asking Mourinho to play without a big target man at no9. Everyone has their tactical preference, it's not matter of intelligence.

Jogginghoe will come back to haunt and I will be here to dig him out like I did with Mikel and Ramires. Mind you I only started digging.Mikel in 2012 AFTER the UCL final so it's not like I was digging Mikel and he proved me wrong. He proved me right infact. I was OK with Mikel when Chelsea played low block but not after we bought MaZaCar to play high block. This is not matter of accepting L. A weakness is a weakness and a tactical preference is a tactical preference. If you like parking bus to protect a snail that's up to you. I don't.

This is you hoping for a "I told you so" moment at the detriment of the club you support.

What is now different from you and Havertz10?

I don't know whether your tactical preference when it comes to Jorginho is better than seasoned coaches who saw it fit "to protect him" just to make sure he is in the pitch. Multiple coaches at that.

Ibime you fall hand here big time.

Ebukacute:
It can only be juju

My brother....

popizaino:
Walahi juju is real,let's assume in a school of about 120 students in jss2 with 40 students in each arm of jss2 A, jss2 B, Jss3 C, jss 2 D. [/b]Take jorginho to be in [b]jss2 D. He came 6th position among the 40 students in his own class and when it was time to compute the overall result the 6th position from jss2 D became the 1st overall among the 120 students. Tell me no be juju be that?

If I tell you say I get a single idea how this your analogy take relate wetin I post, I be dishonest liar.

Who be the 40 students? Wetin be the classes A to D? How Jorginho take be 6th? How 40 students for each class equal 120 students for 4 classes? Too many question marks for this your analogy.

Trevor012:
Joseph the dreamer. I just dey wait for Liverpool to flog una on Saturday

As a Man Utd fan, who will you support on Saturday?

Player no good, player no good but every coach dey feature am for starting XI.

Is it that Jorginho is more important that the team tactics that coaches will set up the team "to protect him"? Why not just bench him and play your tactics freely?

Kante, Kovacic, Verratti, Locatelli, etc is helping the liability called Jorginho. Why will the coaches bother to play the liabilti every game, and from time to time, sub off those players who help him? It makes zero sense.

Sarri, Pep, Tuchel, Mancini must be fools to value a player being exposed in Nairaland week in week out.

Can't score goal. Can't assist. Can't play forward pass. Slow as snail. Runs an Escourt service..... But yet tactical geniuses like Tuchel and Mancini plays him regularly, even ditching their preferred formations to accommodate him.

Juju must be real las las....

I can only imagine the "I told you so" that will flood this street if, by mistake, KDB win this player of the year.

I never wan talk. Make them confirm winner first, and make e be J5.

OJURONGBE1:
Banter aside, don't put this lad alongside Raphael Varane in the same sentence . Head edge pass nose.
Raphael is a legend of the game with so many laurels to his name.
Just say we hope to get a good deal & the player turn out to be a decent player for Chelsea.

Does "legend" have another meaning in football that I don't know of?

raumdeuter:
If Jorginho wins the award

Do we start discrediting the award as a polling booth award which was against all we ever argued

Or

Do we accept that Jorginho is a top player which was against what we argued?

Which L is easier? The one pronounced with British accent or the one pronounced with deep Yoruba accent

Latest strategy session at the citadel still on going, stay tuned for updates

Off your mic! Off your mic!!

izzou:
[color=royalblue] Remember that Sheikh money no dey finish

If Mbappe leaves, then they would join the race for Haaland.

Raiola like money well well, so the deal would be done in minutes.

They would definitely get a good replacement if he leaves[/color]

Omoh! You are correct. The combination of Raiola and Shiekh can make anything happen.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]He rejected a contract renewal before Messi happened (I think)

The guy just wants to leave. Maybe he wants to go to a big team, build himself and become a legend there. PSG has enough competition

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And Real Madrid is the perfect place for him to do that. Good for him.

I'm just looking at it from PSG pov. They can't dominate Europe by letting one of the hottest players leave. Messi will give them maximum 2 years (seasons).

BlueRayDick:
You can't force an unhappy player to stay now. If Mbappe wants to leave despite the huge salary he gets then they should sell him. There's no sense in forcing him to stay gains his wish.

I don't see it as the team prioritizing an old man Messi ahead of him, rather I see the club making the best of selling an unhappy player. Something barca refused to do with messi last year and landed them in financial mess

Mbappe didn't look "unhappy" until Messi happened.

Mbappe and Neymar have been paddy all this while. But we all know that Neymar/Messi paddy is on another level.

I feel its Messi arrival that is pushing Mbappe away. I stand to be corrected though. If true, PSG will be stupid to lose Mbappe because of Messi.