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airmark:
Liverpool pushed up because Spurs that was topping started wobbling in that December. They only won 2 matches out of 6.

Liverpool in that same December drew against Fulham and West brom. You can't say they had a better run than a City team in that period.

So immediately others woke up, they went down.

Swallow your L and rest.

VVD was out. So Liverpool should naturally be wobbling too, according to your view.

If Tottenham is wobbling and Liverpool is wobbling too (because of VVD absence), how did Liverpool find their way to the top?

If Liverpool do well, it's because of other teams wobbling. But if Liverpool drop down, it's because of VVD absence. Continue with the hypocrisy.

Griffon:
Fucck you Salah!

Lol

We are in the same boat.

airmark:
Swallow your L and rest.

Look at airmark that is trying to force an imaginary L on someone.

You go goof. When you are found out, you go rush go edit post.

How come Liverpool pushed up the table after VVD injury?

airmark:
Ogbeni swallow your L and rest.

Imaginary L?

Your weight no reach.

raumdeuter:
Why not Matip that left last season?

VVD left Liverpool in 4th position
After his injury till January they were 1st
Was it VVDs ghost that pushed them to 1st in January?

By January other players started dropping like flies and the form suffered

Suddenly it's the VVD who was injured in December that caused the loss of form in January

It will be like someone claiming OBJ is the cause of Nigeria problem in 2021 not Buhari

This is exactly what I explained to him.

Exactly.

NinjaMetahuman:
lol why not provide the stat I asked now? You already know it didn't support argument.

VVd left last season and their attack suddenly became blunt (in your own words) something that didn't happen 3 seasons in a row that VVd didn't have injury.
Then VVd came back and the attack suddenly started bubbling again.
And you still can't see the bottom line?

I'm pretty sure you know the truth but ego just to let you accept it here.

Anyhoo I'm not gonna drag this argument any longer Cos I already know how it's gonna end.
Plus vVd isn't Chelsea player and he is not paying me to defend his honour. (So I wish him and Liverpool another bad season)

Stop putting words in my mouth. I never in any world said the bolded.

VVD left when Liverpool was in 3rd position. They held their ground and even topped the league sometime around January or so. After more injuries hit them, the squad lost form collectively. And they dropped in the table.

The form you feel they picked now actually started in the tail end of last season. Around April, they were 6th or 7th in the table, and then they clawed their way back to go ahead both Chelsea and Leicester and finish 3rd.

Rest. VVD is just one of the many injuries that Liverpool had last season.

NinjaMetahuman:
Liverpool had 27 shots and 9 shots on target today.

27 fucking shots.

Show me any game Liverpool lost last season with such stat after VVd injury.

Don't tell me you honestly believe VVD is the reason for this stats today

I can argue it's because of Matip who missed large chunk of last season too.

airmark:
Did they attack effectively without VVD consistently? That's what you should address if you still want more Ls.

They scored and assisted after VVD. That's enough evidence that they don't need VVD to attack.

airmark:
Let me help you deliver this to Timbros. I dont care if he chokes on it.

Opinions.

Evidence (stats) show that TAA and Robertson attack even in the absence of VVD.

Cc: NinjaMetahuman

Roland17:
I hope and pray Peter (Mr. P) go just shun every every wen don happen in the past and go look for his brother in this times of distress.

Wetin don happen don happen but his twin brother needs him more than ever right now before we go begin hear stories that touch!

Wetin happen? What's happening with Paul?

Edit: I just saw the thread in front page. Na wao... Divorce.

Ibime:
For where. His record against Burnley is poor. I switched captain to Fernandes and so far, so good.

Both of my Liverpool defenders with the assists. Raumdeuter is done out here.

Na wao..

And his goal was disallowed.

Captain Salah masterclass loading...

Ibime:
Emerson didn't play UCL. Mount would have been nominated if England won Euros

But he got UCL medal.

afrodoc2:
So na all of them deny Jorginho 3 times before dawn.

How can a player’s success inflict such delicious Ls on his own fans.

The thing tire me.

The way fans will attack and criticise their own player forgetting say tomorrow things fit change.

Ibime:
Jorginho is only on list because his teams won UEFA tournaments twice in the same season. That's normal.

Stars aligned for him. If Donnaruma hadn't saved penalties, Jorginho would not be on any list. Nobody has Jorginho as the mainstay of our UCL win. Kante was MOTM in every match from QF to Final.

If even Dele Alli should be lucky to be in a team that wins both UCL and Euros, he will be nominated. That's just how the voting works, not because Jorginho is a don.

6 months ago, he was lean - he hasn't added weight

6 months ago, he was weak - he hasn't been to gym

6 months ago, he was an all round disaster - thank God for bus parking. Take that away and he is still an all round disaster.

Why was Emerson not nominated? Isn't he lucky to be in a team that won both UCL and Euros?

3minssex:
Why? Will Mendy be on loan then?

Afcon.

fredoooooo:
N'GOLO... N'GOLO..... KANTE

Things you love to see...

There is no way KDB will win it ahead of these guys.

Griffon:
Meanwhile, Pedro has become the first player to be transferred between fierce rivals Roma and Lazio in 40 years.

No way Mourinho was going to forgive and forget.

Actually, no transfer happened.

Na free agent Pedro be.

Omoh mehn! Airmark, Dayo don do you dirty seriously

See receipt

airmark:
2011 is not between 2012 and 2016 bro.

But 2017 is?

If 2012 is 2012/13, then 2016 must be 2016/17, No?

We are comparing goals of each season for 2 player's here. A full season starts in one year and ends in the following year.

2012 to 2016 is a period of 5 seasons, not 4. And 2012 season started in 2011. If you want to count from 2012/13, then the 2016 there will be 2016/17 which shouldn't come into the discussion because 2017 is still the future when Nihilist made that comment.

I don't know how this is hard to understand.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]

Timbros no wan gree. Typical Port Harcourt boy behaviour [/color]

How una go wan bring confusion for wetin dey straightforward like cigar.

We dey count season goals here, No be calendar year goals.

Assuming say 2012 sef be 2012/13 (Which is not correct) but make we assume....

2012... 2012/13
2013......2013/14
2014.....2014/15
2015....2015/16
2016...?

Remember say the time line na 2012 to 2016. So you wan spill am to 2017 but I no fit start from 2011? Where is the sense there? He made the comment in 2016. How you wan add stats of 2017 to comment of 2016?

Cc afrodoc

afrodoc2:
I am sorry to say one has nothing to do with the other. Goals scored from 2012 to 2016 conventionally means goals scored from 2012/2013 season to 2015/2016 season.

Izzou has tried to explain to you. If the accepted convention does not favor you on this argument, you might have to take the L on this one.
Don't worry next argument might favor you. One L deserves another.

You didn't answer my question.

Lukaku's 2012 season started in 2011. His total goals started from the 1st half of the season, 2011.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]You are still saying what I'm saying

Van Persie won in 2014, because it ended in 2014. If I asked you for Van Persie's goal from 2014, it would be amusing if you start counting from 2013.... It should start from the 2014 upwards.

You really can't use when an event was won to judge this. It's a different context

Euro 2020 was played and won in 2021. I shouldn't and can't use this to prove anything[/color]

Good.

Did Van Persie win it based on only the goals he scored in 2014? Was 2013 goals (1st half of the season) not included in the goals that gave him the 2014 golden boot?

In the same vein, Lukaku's goals of 2012 should include goals he scored in 2011 (1st half of the season) too.

afrodoc2:
Between 2012 and 2016 means the following 4 seasons:

2012/2013

2013/2014

2014/2015

2015/2016

You can’t say between 2012 and 2016 and count 5 or 6 seasons. How now?

Doc, who won EPL golden boot 2021? Or better still, who outscored each other in EPL 2021, Cavani or Bruno? And how many goals each?

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Both contexts are different.

You are talking about when a tournament was won. The argument was based on a time frame.

If I tell you to tell me the goals Lukaku scored from 2019 to 2021, you should start from 2019/.......

Nothing should bring 2018 in it. But what do I know? [/color]

What do you understand from this question below?

nihilistjnr:
Just answer the question bro

How many times has Costa outscored Lukaku? Between 2012 and 2016 - it was 2-2 btw

How many time frame should be in the how many times? Is it every calendar year from 2012 to 2016? Or maybe seasons? Or is it just one time frame from 2012 to 2016?

Ok,the bolded. What is the meaning of that 2-2 there?

My point is simple. If we say Van Persie won golden boot in 2014, for example. Does it mean January to December 2014 or 2013/14 season or 2014/15 season?

nihilistjnr:
Timbros is an unrepentant blockhead

I am bookmarking all these your comments for the time you will be here trying to prove that UCL Chelsea won in 2012 is actually 2011/12 season.

No be here we dey?

Shebi now, 2012 translates 2012/13 abi? Time dey come...

nihilistjnr:
I'm definitely talking to a kid if I have to spell out the difference between appearances and minutes to you.
Lukaku played 158 league minutes spread across 38 games, and had his only league start for Chelsea in May.

158 minutes is not even up to two full matches. I admire your dedication to the show of foolishnes, over the last 5 years, but if we have to spoonfeed wisdom into your head, we will.

Surely even you must see the stupidity in trying to compare Lukaku's goal return in 1 and half a match as a reserve player, to Diego Costa's return in 38 games. And if you cannot, then mehn, we might need to raise money for deliverance for you.

Your career start where you made your debut. Number of minutes doesn't matter. Lukaku appeared in Chelsea jersey 8 times in 2011/12 season. His career started then.

I had to make that clear. However, it's not the point of our discussion.

How many times did Lukaku outscore Costa between 2012 and 2016?

izzou:
[color=royalblue]To be honest, you're actually proving him right

If he says 2012-2016, the first season should be 2012/2013, not 2011/2012. And the last season to take note is 2016/2017.

But I'm enjoying the discourse sha. Make Una carry on [/color]

No. The year mentioned is always the end of the season.

Chelsea won UCL when? 2021. Is it 2021/22 season or 2020/21 season?

Man City is England champion when? 2021. Is it 2021/22 season or 2020/21 season?

Which year did Leicester win EPL? 2015 or 2016?

nihilistjnr:
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You are being infinitely foolish if your only strategy for trying to avoid an L rests on semantics.
Lukaku's EPL career started in 2012/13. In 2011 he was playing in Chelsea Academy.

Have some goddam shame man

Lukaku's EPL career started in Chelsea.

The worst part is telling lies to make your argument sweet. You are not talking to a kid here. Lukaku made 8 first team league appearances in Chelsea in 2011/12 season.

nihilistjnr:
I think you might actually have a problem with following a conversation or the gist of an argument.

Lukaku's EPL career started in 2012/13 season when he went on loan to West Brom. Prior to that he was playing in Chelsea academy

If I say starting from 2012, Lukaku has done X, in a conversation we've established to be about league performance, and then you still need me to explicitly spell out that I'm talking about 2012/2013 season, then the problem is with you my guy. I wouldn't have expected to have to point this out, because I would have expected a basic level of implied understanding in such a conversation..

It's like I'm trying to discuss the finer points of English literature focusing on the works of Shakespeare and Thomas Hardy, but you're only capable of reading Ali and Simbi.

This won't fly.

You never told me Lukaku has done X since 2012. You asked me the question below

nihilistjnr:
Just answer the question bro

How many times has Costa outscored Lukaku? Between 2012 and 2016 - it was 2-2 btw

Who talks calendar year when discussing player performance over the course of a season?

And in England, Lukaku career started in Chelsea, not West Brom. Did Lukaku make his first team debut in West Brom? I need to point that out before you keep repeating it as truth now.

Romeo Lukaku

2011/12.... 2 goals
2012/13.... 17 goals
2013/14....15 goals
2014/15....10 goals
2015/16....18 goals

Diego Costa

2011/12...10 goals
2012/13...10 goals
2013/14....27 goals
2014/15...20 goals
2015/16...12 goals

Since you deny say na only league goals (my trash talk o) you wan count, oya see am.

Bros how many times has Lukaku outscored Costa between 2012 and 2016?

nihilistjnr:
Timbros, Lukaku is talking about how he was hanging around with academy players in 2011, and you are asking how many EPL goals he scored in 2011/2012

Dont be foolish

When you were shouting how many times Costa outscore Lukaku between 2012 and 2016, didn't you know Lukaku was hanging around with academy players then?

Na only you hold rope, na only you still use the rope tie yourself

You cannot wriggle out of this.

nihilistjnr:
You are being foolish,

I called 2012. 2011 is not in 2012.

You are too old to be acting this foolish

Stop twisting words.

This is football we are discussing. Even my 2 year old daughter know that, in football, when you are comparing 2 players and mentioned year(s), you are talking about seasons. A football season in Europe starts in one year and end in the next year.

When you say between 2012 and 2016, we're you referring to calendar years or seasons? Answer this question and let me know how honest you are.