Trevor012: We will start hearing takes by moonlight and shalayes up and down. That was how blueangel was doing different line ups and back up options only to disappear. They have no excuse, win the league or nothing.
I am strongly suspecting that Enzo5 is Blueangel444
I stand to be corrected though. Their typing pattern look eerily similar.
Both the ex players, managers and staffs. You walk into Cobham and SW6 and you get inflicted by the spell.
Chelsea have this cult-like effect that even after you’re gone, you feel a part of you is still there.
I was watching videos clips of Salomon Kalou watching the CWC final with his family. See passion! The way he was jubilating for the goals got me like, wow... Is this guy is still into Chelsea like this?
Even Ramires too. His wild celebrations watching the CWC final. Lol.
I fully understand the rationale behind the move to stockpile that attack with goal scoring players.
I’ve always said it, this wasn’t just a Nico issue but an entire issue of those players operating on the attacking front. If you must call out Nico, you must definitely call out Madueke, Sancho etc.
You know, once you point this out they will brand you Jackson stan.
The whole attack was letting Palmer down but it's only Jackson people love to call out. He is the easy scapegoat.
Madueke that was wasting even Jackson's assists. Madueke literally blocked Palmer's goal on the line. That should be against Leicester away, I think. He has squandered Jackson's cut back pass.... Is it Sancho and Neto that was given a target here and failed to reach the target?
I don't know, maybe when we talk of Chelsea attack here, it's Jackson only we are referring to. Maybe.
Madueke scored a hattrick against Wolves and hang boot for the season, yet he should stay and Jackson should be thrown away.
andrewbaba44: And when I said so I was talking about club football in general
Oga Nobody should be comparing club football to international football in anyway
Haaland first season at dortmund he played 28 league games and scored 27 goals ,his second season he played 24 and scored 22 ,while his first season at the epl he scored 36 in 35 games ,now tell me which of the stats looks more easier
I'm interested to know why you said the bolded. Just curious. Are the rules in club football different from the rules in international football?
Note: I absolutely don't know what you guys debate is about. I'm not for or against anybody. I'm just interested in that bolded.
Trevor012: Won golden boot in England, Spain and Italy. Remains the only player to be topscorer in three of the top 5 European leagues. Broke the league record for most goals in a league season In England, Spain and the Champions league. Give it a rest.
Which one be too 5 European leagues? We only have top 3 European Leagues.
airmark: So I should refer to your view in February and ignore the one few days to the end of transfer window in August, when we've already got Silva replaced by Tosin, right? You insisted on getting an experienced CB after Tosin was brought and you were even mocking the defence after the season started and they were conceding. You are a joke.
Ogbeni, hold your L and stop renovating your view. You asked for a new CB few days to the closure of transfer window and even mocked my post when we were conceding during the season. Be a responsible man.
I told you Tosin was ok and injured defenders like Colwill, James, Fofana would improve our defence. That's when you started attacking Colwill's ability. You and others condemning Colwill and Cucurella exposed your limited ability to evaluate player's ability. You wouldn't see me among you guys doing that.
Ogbeni, leave story and accept that you goofed for condemning our defenders. Had we performed woefully last season, you would have gone to town that you asked for an experienced CB and nothing happened and blame our failure on Colwill and our defenders and not the coach, for not improving the defence as you now claimed. And ofcourse you would have dragged me for trusting the defenders.
Keep quiet and lick your wounds, as we have become the World Champions with the same defenders, no additional CB as you wanted and like I requested since last year January, with a new and better finisher upfront.
You can go and hug transform3for all I care.
The numbers condemned our defence, not me. Conceding 63 premier league goals is not the kind of defence a club of Chelsea's status need.
Maresca knows that. That is why he prioritised fixing of defence as soon as he came in.
If attack was the major problem, he wouldn't say the below in one of his first interviews. I care less what Airmark think is our major issue. The coach came in, identified the major issue, stated it and worked on it. Whatever you think is completely irrelevant.
We are gradually reaping the benefits of a good defence.
Just like Singapore1 schooled you, our attack output have not had much difference compared to other seasons. The major difference is that we are conceding less now.
Napoli, Inter Milan, Atalanta comes to mind for lasts year's Serie A title challenge.
Now go back to the background because I have given you the enough dose of attention to last your for weeks. Continue your repetition for all I care.
This is your post few days before the August transfer window closed where you asked for an experienced CB to be bought after over a month that Tosin had joined. Now you are lying that you didn't ask for new defender that a tactical/formation change was what you meant.
After you guys argue ignorantly and foolishly, later when you are proved wrong, you will start denying.. You didn't even want an LW (support cast).
We became the World champions without the experienced defender you asked, now you are renovating your request for a new experienced CB. Shame on you Timbros.
Below are your posts condemning the defenders and not the formation or tactics. Colwill and the defenders you condemned below, made us the World Champions.
Why did you stop at August transfer window? Why don't you go further down in February when the argument just started and post what I said below?
If I can get ONLY 3 players with 200m, I'll get a CB and CF. The last spot will be either of LW/RB/LB.
Fofana, Chilwell, James all have terrible injury records. Silva is already semi retired. These are defensive positions that needs reinforcement critically. I have not even mentioned the goalkeeper department.
Our left and central side of attack currently needs upgrade.
So you see that our problem is not just attack.
And apart from just signing players, we need a coach that can actually upgrade the players we currently have. A different coach can come in and change these crop of players to monsters and drop the jaw of football world. These are young players that can be moulded.
Mourinho came into Chelsea in 2004 and suddenly Geremi became solid. Terry became a rock. Lampard already have the talent but he became much much more better. Joe Cole became a terrorist. Even soft Glenn Johnson deliver wenever he was called upon..... All these are players Mourinho met in Chelsea. So apart from his signings, he still improved the players he met in the club.
Chelsea issue is not just attack.
You see the problem with you is intentional misinterpretation to suit your agenda. I clearly advocate for improvement of defence, as there is where our major problem lies. Improvement can be done either way: get new players OR work on the players already in our pay roll.
Our most experienced defender left and I asked for a replacement. Is that wrong? The same post where I asked for experienced defender, I also asked for a CF. Why didn't you highlight that? If I say we have absolutely no problem in attack, why will I ask for CF?
I criticise Colwill because he was not living up to expectation then. I am not you that will never acknowledge improvement from a player you criticise. More than half of posters criticise Cucurella here at some point. But look at his improvement today... Should we say because we criticise him before, we will continue bashing him? Palmer's signing was criticised by some here. But the same people is praising him today. It takes humility to do that. Even Jackson was praised here sometime last season cuz of his overall improvement. People praised him except YOU. doest that make you right and everyone else wrong?
Singapore1: I actually don’t argue that at all. I was also one of the people criticizing Tosin, but he has been impressive in the last few games. Remember, we didn’t have any additions to our attack towards the end of last season, and we were keeping clean sheets even before we started signing players.
Also, I’ve never argued that we had a wasteful striker, just that we didn’t really have a scoring problem. Maybe we could have scored more, but it wasn’t our biggest issue.
Sometimes, a bad defence doesn’t always mean players need replacing; but that doesn’t mean they weren’t the problem. And majority of our problem were from Goalkeeper error, CB errors.
And that was what usually bring the Liverpool/PSG/Mancity argument. a lot of example of teams who have won league without a lethal striker
How anyone will disagree with the bolded, especially the italics, is mind boggling.
Defence was clearly our issue right from time. But when we talk of improvement in defence, people will automatically interpret it to mean buy new defenders.....
Maresca himself came in and identified our defensive issue, and started working on it immediately. Now that we are gradually reaping the benefits, people will be jumping all over the thread comparing how many players bought in attack vs how many players bought in defence, as if improvement is only when new personnel are brought in.
We scored 17 goals to win CWC as the highest scoring team. Now imagine we conceded like 16 goals. Can we win the trophy?
It is this same Chelsea that our attackers score 2 or more goals consistently per match, but we find it hard to gather 3points. Why? Because we conceded 2 or more goals consistently too. Our rivals will score 2 goals and win a match but we will score same 2 goals and draw or lose.
Scoring goals was never our major problem. We don't have a lethal number 9, yes. But we always score goals. In the just concluded CWC, 10 different players scored that 17 goals. We were the highest goal scoring team but we didn't produce the tournament's highest goal scorer. Why? Because we never needed a Haaland like we were made to understand Pep needed to win UCL. Goal scoring was shared by everyone.
2022/23 season we clearly had attack issue. When Jorginho, with 7 goals I think, was our highest goal scorer. We scored a paltry 38 goals while conceding 47. A minus 9 goal difference season. No wonder we ended 12th in the table.
2023/24 season our attack improved drastically. We score 77 goals but still couldn't break top 4. Why? Because of a record breaking 63 goals conceded. 63 goals! Who can win ANY title conceding 63 goals? Mind you, scoring 77 goals is enough to get you a top 4 finish. Heck, you can push for title challenge sef!
2024/25 season Maresca came in and improved our defence to an extent. Not the best yet, but the table clearly showed the improvement. We couldn't score the 77 goals of previous season ( we scored 64) but we made top 4. We achieved UCL spot. Why? Again the defence. Conceding just 43 goals is a massive improvement to the abysmal 63 conceded the previous season.
Numbers cannot lie. We are gradually reaping the benefits of an improved defence. And improvement in defence MUST NOT be signing new players. Maresca knew that. And he went to work immediately he came in. The image below are not my words....
Which kind interviewers be this? Person never visit Nigeria before you dey pressure am to tell you where exactly he is from in Lagos. Embarrassing the young man... Look at that one saying there are eligible spinsters for him, even in Arise News... Na wa! All this wan na "on a lighter note too"
Silentgroper: It took us 30years, Yet you still don't have up to the amount of premier League trophy we've won in that 30years .. How sad is that ..
One measley competition featuring weak teams from unknown leagues is what is making feel like you've arrived .. Like I said earlier, anything less than a quadruple this season, this place no go contains us ..
Better start bracing up ..
Why are you obsessed with Chelsea? The pain no too much like this?
I've told you to go to Liverpool thread as a Liverpool fan. You claim there is no Liverpool thread. Someone asked you to open one, you refused. I went through the stress of digging up your thread for you and gave you the link. Since then, you have not posted ANYTHING there. The thread still remains how it is since I gave you the link. But you have been here since that time typing quadruple up and down.
donjazzet: I remember you actually asking around then. 😂. Omo we're gradually getting old. I can't believe I've been on nairaland for 13 years now. Time is really flying.
I can't forget one thing Griffon told me then
I used to keep like 7m to 10m in the bank... Griffon told me that this is not real money o, what do I plan to do with such amount ITB