European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 4:32pm On Aug 31, 2024 |
airmark: If not for Lovren's mistake dzeko was kept at bay for the most of the game. A Liverpool's team without van dijk would have been knocked out by city by cancelling out goals by sallah. We saw what sevilla did to them.
When you have a solid defence marshalled by a leader who ensured his mates keep shape at the back, kept his position, warding off threats from strikers, your team will have confidence to go on all attack.
Go and tell klopp or Gerrard or any sensible Liverpool fan, that van dijk has added nothing to their defence, if you will not receive a knock on your dumb head. Airmark read this your comment again. Slow down at the bolded part, slow down more at the red bolded part....... Isn't this what is affecting Jackson's confidence? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 4:24pm On Aug 31, 2024 |
Jodera: Thank you oo. Na why I just leave am that day immediately he brought out arsenal winning Epl last cos I know say him just wan enter trolling. He can use arsenal to reference big chances missed, but talk about supporting cast and defence and he'll tell you how Arsenal shouldn't be used.
Cherry-picking bullet points  Airmark is terrible. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 4:22pm On Aug 31, 2024 |
airmark: You lack substance.
Anyways,
Attack
Felix - 60m Neto - 52m Dewsbury - 35m Guiu - 6m = 153m
Defence
Veiga - 14m Jorgensen - 24.5m Tosin - 0 = 38.5m
What will you say now to where the club saw our major problem was? Like I keep telling you, money spent is NOT the criteria to know where the major problem lies. Read again what Enzo said in the image below. Pay close attention to the yellow highlighted part. Fixing a problem is only about buy buy buy buy... AI don't blame you sha, your football knowledge is limited so you believe that coaching is only to just enter a club, point players you want, club buys and you throw them inside the pitch to play football. Enzo knew that defence was the major problem Chelsea had from last season that's why he discussed it with the players very early. And one way he wanted to fix it is highlighted in the image below. There is NO record of him discussing attack with the players as a major issue.Add the fact that our FIRST transfer of the window is a defender tell you all you need to know. I don't even want to mention how you shamelessly added KDH as attacker 
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 2:04pm On Aug 31, 2024 |
airmark: Gibberish.
We were discussing winning the Epl and not about a player signed first indicating the department where the major problem in the team, lies.
Stop muddling up the Convo in order to cover your stupid logic - the player a team sign first, is the most important.
Below is the amount spent on each department and one could see the department we concentrated on between the two. Your stupid logic died on arrival.
Felix - 60m Neto - 52m Dewsbury - 35m Guiu - 6m = 153m
Veiga - 14m Jorgensen - 24.5m Tosin - 0 = 38.5m Who gave you the right to choose which discussion to reference Arsenal? If you don't want Jo.dera to mention Arsenal in your discussion, do well NOT to mention it in other arguments too. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 1:53pm On Aug 31, 2024 |
Unlimited22: I wonder how this thing is difficult for you to accept
Our problem is not scoring goals, it is conceding them.
There's a reason Liverpool had Firmino, Coutinho and Salah yet broke the bank for Van Dijk and Alisson. Airmark knows exactly what he is doing. Na just pride and shame dey worry am. airmark: If not for Lovren's mistake dzeko was kept at bay for the most of the game. A Liverpool's team without van dijk would have been knocked out by city by cancelling out goals by sallah. We saw what sevilla did to them.
When you have a solid defence marshalled by a leader who ensured his mates keep shape at the back, kept his position, warding off threats from strikers, your team will have confidence to go on all attack.
Go[b] and tell klopp or Gerrard or any sensible Liverpool fan, that van dijk has added nothing to their defence, if you will not receive a knock on your dumb head.[/b] This is the same Airmark that is arguing against defence today. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 1:45pm On Aug 31, 2024 |
airmark: We had same number of big chances as Arsenal and they coverted 15 more than us last season.
There's a reason we have spent over 150m on our attack and we didn't spend more than 40m on defence. We conceded less against City at home this season as against 4 last season, and we scored 6 against Wolves as against 1 we scored last season at molineaux.
The only painful thing is that we didn't upgrade from that wasteful Jackson. Every other thing I asked for in the attack was done.
Felix - 60m Neto - 52m Dewsbury - 35m Guiu - 6m = 153m
Veiga - 14m Jorgensen - 24.5m Tosin - 0 = 38.5m Where did you see Arsenal in Unlimited22 post? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 1:33pm On Aug 31, 2024 |
airmark: What's the meaning of this?
You claimed that a team's first signing indicates where the major problem lies. Are you now saying it is only exclusive to Chelsea?
You will always come up with stupid logics, that can easily be trashed.  Jodera used Arsenal to school you the need for supporting cast. Arsenal do not have a prolific striker but they were able to score 5 goals plus consistently last season. Na Saka, Trossard, Havertz dem score the bulk of Arsenal's goals. Same way Chelsea can be fine with Jackson and a good support cast... Your response? This👇 airmark: Where did you see Arsenal in my post? You haven't even won Epl since 2004, why would I use you as example when Conte's Chelsea is there to use. Sit down. You rubbished Arsenal refence because it works against your argument. Fast-forward to today when I school you on why defence is our major problem... Your response? This👇 airmark: So Arsenal's major problem is defence, since that's where they first signed player for. You are irredeemable.  That same Arsenal you never wanted Jodera to bring into your talk is the same Arsenal you are bringing into our talk. Talk about convenience. You are terrible. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 10:12am On Aug 31, 2024 |
airmark: So Arsenal's major problem is defence, since that's where they first signed player for. You are irredeemable.  Yea, use Arsenal only when it's convenient. No be you again? airmark: Where did you see Arsenal in my post? You haven't even won Epl since 2004, why would I use you as example when Conte's Chelsea is there to use. Sit down. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 10:02am On Aug 31, 2024 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 10:00am On Aug 31, 2024 |
iamoyindamola: Blueraydick should come and explain the hypocrite here now Osihmen can’t move to either of Chelsea or Al alhi with his relationship at Napoli also broken It’s going to be a long 6 months for the so called Africa footballer of the year The guy obviously want to eat his cake and have it He thought Chelsea were desperate to offer stupid money as they are money miss road I am still wondering why arsenal didn’t go with him  I just remember BlueRayDick as soon as TW shut  Well Saudi window never close. He can still go to Saudi. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 9:58am On Aug 31, 2024 |
airmark: Later in the day, I will send that strong L you are squirting for, as you no get shame to remain quiet as your defence was almost jettisoned for attack as suggested. You still no wan rest. The board knows the major problem that's why they made defender their very first signing. Priority. Coach came out in public to tell us topic of his earliest meeting with the players. Priority. Leaving the pursuit of a CF till the very last day of TW should tell you what the board/coach sees as the major problem in the squad. Support cast signed all over the place like nateevs recommended. As usual, you are against this opinion. Let me wait for your "later in the day" and see if it's the support cast you were strongly against us what you want to list for me. You are terrible. You are a disgrace. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 6:41am On Aug 31, 2024 |
airmark: We should not take Osimhen again abeg. He may flop as he didn't even have preseason with us and may not be in good shape to hit the ground running. You are a disgrace airmark. A proper disgrace. What sort of excuse is this at the 11th hour? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 7:50pm On Aug 29, 2024 |
Unlimited22: He can play LW. Even if he can, he shouldn't. Nothing should concern Jackson with playing wing. Unless he just want to drift during the game like Drogba does then. If Jackson play wing, wetin all our wingers wan do? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 7:45pm On Aug 29, 2024 |
BlewMahn: There are now 36 teams, and the preliminary phase is in league format. Each team plays eight matches in the league phase (4 home, 4 away; you get to play each team either home or away, instead of the usual home AND away). The graphic I posted had the fixtures for Pot 1 teams. Same was done for teams in Pot 2-4.
After 8 games played by all 36 teams, the top 8 move to the round of 16 automatically. 9th to 24th engage in a double legged knockout phase (kind of like a round of 16 before the main round of 16) to determine the eight teams that will complete the round of 16. From there, the competition assumes it's usual format. Interesting. It looks like this format will make sense. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 7:43pm On Aug 29, 2024 |
Unlimited22: League phase, after it ends, top 8 get to the R16, 9th - 24th (16 teams) play a two legged knockout tie to determine the other 8
In February the format continues as you've known it.
R16, QF, SF, final. Na wao... So the League format now, everyone will play everyone? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 7:42pm On Aug 29, 2024 |
Kimbeast: Its now in a league format. Top 8 get automatic qualification to the round of 16 while 9th to 24th play a knouckout round to join those 8. So they will all play against every single one of themselves? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 7:41pm On Aug 29, 2024 |
Enzo5: that was the only thing you read and could comment on I had to point it out cuz that take is weird. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 6:27pm On Aug 29, 2024 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 6:26pm On Aug 29, 2024 |
BlewMahn: Omo I no understand this draw again o...or has that new format started
Modified: Indeed it has...this is the new league phase format
Some really interesting fixtures in here, I can't lie
These are fixtures for pot 1 teams Omor... I understand absolutely nothing in this fixtures. I need to go study the new format. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 6:19pm On Aug 29, 2024 |
Enzo5: that's solid reason why we don't need Sancho, when we already have immature Mudryk. If Felix and Neto turn up every game we don't need Sancho, if they flop it means we would have 4 big problems to move next summer to create space for Estevao, Paez and George
I don't understand the plan I will just be watching because we should be signing a striker if Felix and Nkunku wouldn't be playing 9, Jackson can play left wing and getting Sancho just takes the number of players who can play said position to 5 Jackson play LW? Na wao... Some takes here sha. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 1:16pm On Aug 28, 2024 |
Ibime: Sancho will actually cook on the left wing which is his best position but he has not had the opportunity to play there for Manure
If Sancho is the price we have to pay to get rid of Sterling then so be it. But Nkunku and Mudryk should also be sold so as not to crowd him out. Between Sancho, Neto and Felix, we are good on that left wing, not to talk of Carney With or without Sancho, Sterling is already gone. We don't need another LW....Just get in an experienced CB and a CF. Trim the squad down and we are good to go. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 2:20pm On Aug 25, 2024 |
BlueRayDick: The question that is premised on complete sports gists? Do you even read my question? What on earth does it have to do with Complete Sports? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 2:19pm On Aug 25, 2024 |
Jodera: Lol, then why are you guys after him if that's the case here? This type of your contract is mostly for young upcoming players or players at a lower club not top player and top club like Osimhen is who has already made name for himself.
Arsenal aren't really serious for Osimhen. Most I'm seeing is just rumors and stuff. If we're after Osimhen, we won't be offering him at least 150k wage at this his stage he is at his career. It's insulting na. Osimhen doesn't want to gamble on a season long loan deal without an obligation to buy because there is every tendency that he won't perform this one season, and if that's the case, Chelsea will withdraw from the deal. It's very understandable because if that happens, he is going back to Napoli which means looking for yet another club or riding bench. But if he truly believes he can come in here and perform well, what stops Chelsea from offering him a new lucrative deal? Palmer played just one season and got a bumper new deal. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 2:14pm On Aug 25, 2024 |
CaptainZubi: We go cook this season forget. I told someone here after the mancity game but he thought I was yarning dust. Calm down fess bro. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 2:13pm On Aug 25, 2024 |
BlueRayDick: If Chelsea is cutting down on their wage then let them sign strikers willing to sign 10 years contract and take peanut for wages . Let them leave Osimehn and his agent to worry about his future .
There are several European players that have been frozen out and still managed to get a good club afterwards.
Worse case scenario Conte will freeze him out this few months and by January he will make a move to any top European club that can afford his wages in the January transfer window . You did NOT answer my question. Maybe you have to read it again, with an open mind. We are not arguing. I just asked a honest question, expecting a honest reply from you. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 2:04pm On Aug 25, 2024 |
Jodera: Is this what was agreed on or what you're thinking?
If the situation is that he'll earn his "at least 150k" then from the seasons upward he'll have his normal wages, then it's acceptable (and that's only valid if it's obligation to buy)
But if not, then he's putting himself at risk financially cos nothing is guaranteed. I don't think Chelsea wants to pay him anything close to what he's earning presently So you want Chelsea to take the risk of paying him his present wages and sign him for 7 years (as this board normally does) then he flops and be stuck with Chelsea, abi? Why didn't Arsenal sign him? I thought you guys were interested in him? Have you signed a number 9? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 2:00pm On Aug 25, 2024 |
andrewbaba44: I don’t get the hypocrisy when it comes to osimhen
The last time i checked osimhen is earning 207k weekly if you convert to GBP ,this is just a little money above the salary of fufuna and Ben chilwell who are both on 200k and hardly do anything meaningful for Chelsea ,let’s not even talk about sterling or Reece James  Let's pretend you don't know Chelsea is cutting down their wage bill. You mentioned four names. Two out of the four have been told to move on. What does that tell you? Where is the hypocrisy exactly? Can you state a like for like example where Chelsea fans ask the said player not to take a pay cut? Abi the word "hypocrisy" just dey sweet una for mouth? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 1:56pm On Aug 25, 2024 |
Jodera: I don't follow Napoli news but like I said, except Conte is saying he doesn't want Osimhen AT ALL, then he might not fall back to him but if his reason is just to get Lukaku as his first choice, then Osimhen automatically becomes 2nd choice.
And as for Costa, we all know the reason he axed him. Two unrelated situations Conte does not have to hold a press conference and tell everyone that he doesn't need Osimhen anymore. When he ride bench continously, body go tell am. Osimhen didn't make the squad for Conte's opener against Hellas Verona. I don't know if he is injured or because of the transfer saga, but if it's a player Conte wants, he would have at least made the bench as long as he is still a Napoli player. I'm not saying this from a fan bias, but I'll advise Osimhen to make the move. Even if it's not Chelsea, he should leave for more playing time to another club. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 1:46pm On Aug 25, 2024 |
airmark: 'One of my first meetings...' is not the same as 'first meeting..'. "
All these your ridiculous attempts can't save you.  Translate whatever you want. For him to discuss with the press the minute for one of his first meetings with the players show how important that subject is. If attack was the major problem like you want us to believe, he would have mentioned it. Keep on believing that the amount spent is the yardstick to determine which is the major problem. As if coaches cannot change tactics with the same set of players and get the needed improvements. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 12:38pm On Aug 25, 2024 |
Jodera: It still depends on Osimhen to fight for his place. Conte hasn't categorically told him that he's not needed or won't be used (even though he won't be the first choice again) and I don't think Lukaku is the Lukaku Conte think he's getting. So yeah, Osimhen can still fight for his shirt back. As if you don't know who Conte is. Conte who axed a red hot Costa from Chelsea team. There is Gio Simeone to deputise Lukaku. Why do you think Conte will fall back to Osimhen? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 12:26pm On Aug 25, 2024 |
Jodera: Yeah, I saw the "at least" but the 150k was too low, meaning even if Chelsea had brought up 170k offer for Osimhen, he(Vis.chy) wouldn't have seen any biggy with it.
Maybe if he'd say at least 250k or so(as worst case scenario), I wouldn't have responded. That worse case scenario of 150k was what drew my attention. In any case, with Lukaku arrival, the reality before Osimhen right now is: look for game time elsewhere or ride the bench. Is there any club willing to sign him right now? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 12:14pm On Aug 25, 2024 |
Palmer injured?  |