GRIMMJOE:
Summary

The dictionary is a book use in explaining concept not to prove said concept exist.

Yes.

Dictionaries are created to find meaning for words which logically follows, it was never created for divinity but for meaning of words. Definitions are agreed upon consensus and widely used by everyone to find meaning for words.

The Bible is said to be divine book where horses fly and snake talk including donkey talking, I don't understand how Bible and dictionary becomes similar.

No one claim dictionaries are divine, the theists here are finding every ridiculous opportunity to drag atheists to their clownery and delusions to feel good at night.

If the Bible is man-made and a dictionary for you good for you, i hope you find the meaning of your delusion in that book.

Maximus69:


Bible is a book just like your dictionary, so if my Bible doesn't count before you please keep your dictionaries to yourself!

Let's talk about what is practically applicable in our society and stop quoting books, is that not what you and your cohorts are saying?

k.

Maximus69:


That's better!
So next time you see someone talking about his God, try to keep shut because there are believers that will silence you in your stupidity!

Anyone that said "oh my God" suddenly believes in God?, when they say many religious people are clowns they thought we're lying.

I thought you guys like arguing based on intellect, why not prove that you don't have any god when i asked you the reason you kept running to pick your dictionaries?

Do you think dictionaries must determine how everyone thinks?

Abegi go and sit down!

Ok, dictionaries are religious books and they're are meaningless to you.

LordReed:


They latch on to any fucking innanity as proof of their god. Utterly ridiculous.

Lol, They're looking for every opportunity to make their imaginary god real. I'm just laughing and having fun with their clownery.

Maximus69:


There is no sense in mentioning "God" if you're 100% sure nothing like that exists Sir!

For you to have typed that, it simply means you are just deceiving yourself!

OH MY GOD!!!

https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/oh-my-god/

Maximus69:


The bolded is the proof of your insincerity!

If there's no God, then there should be any mention of God talkless personally claiming to have anything to do with God.

For you to have typed that, means you're just deceiving yourself!

Search for the meaning of "oh my God" and stop ridiculing yourself.

TATIME:


This is wonderful!

Please tintingz, who and where is your God?

Oh my f*ckin God!!!

You guys are ridiculous.

Maximus69:


That's the miracle!

Now you tintingz who have always been refuting the existence of God, even to the extent of always rendering his title with small letters (gods) suddenly personified his as your God in capital letters!

Well that's how great God is!

Now you may go and tell your former cohorts that you now have a God and it's one of his Witnesses that opened your inner eyes to this fact!

Oh Jesus Christ!!.

Maximus69:


You can say that again!

GOODNESS is one of the fruitage of God's holy spirit so don't be surprised that this is ABSOLUTELY GOOD! Galatians 5:22

Oh my God!.

DappaD:

Please, do not mind somya-what-ever
The Bible does contain real life accounts and future prophecies
The lies of somya are just what makes people keep believing there is no God

Actually the Bible is full of myths.

Maximus69:

Based on agreement!


Informed worshipers or semi-informed worshipers


Confused or misinformed worshipers

As long as we wake up each day to think, talk, eat, drink, walk, work, dress and do so many other things that insanes do without considering whatever anyone thinks, feels or say, but we try to as much as possible to meet up what is agreed upon as normal surely there is a God/gods somewhere dictating for us all, until we realize this there can never be PEACE in any human society!
We must identify the force dictating how things should be done!

Oh my goodness.

IMAliyu:

If you want to see the scary side of self conviction.
Check out the story of heaven's gate. A suicide cult that yeeted themselves including their leader because they believed something about discarding their physical bodies and alien spaceships. They were convinced in their beliefs to the very end without any shred of doubt and in the last recording of the members they were all excited and happy. The members were not even regular people they were intelligent people programers and engineers. I mean I could read about genocides and not feel disturbed, but this was one of the most disgusting feeling I ever got.
So the thing is if the validity of a belief is based on the conviction of the person, then their belief most be truest one out there.

Very true.

They believe it's true and the only true, no evidence or logic can convince them because it's a belief system.

LabuleofNigeria:

i am a man of my words, we can discuss several other things here but not that. i'm sorry

Ok.

LabuleofNigeria:


How many religions have you researched and practiced ?

I've read about over 30 religious and you know what they all claim? "I'm the right one and others are wrong"

So yours cannot be right.

LabuleofNigeria:


My conviction is simply personal to me. find yours

LabuleofNigeria:


I researched over 8 religions & practices before settling for Islam
If you want details pertaining to my personal conviction, ill suggest we meet-up. This is a public forum. some things are best lef unsaid

Tell me a brief one here.

LabuleofNigeria:
Nigeria alone, dyu know how many mythologies, oracles, beliefs and worships that do exist?
you yourself, how many have you tested and practised before giving up on all and claiming no Creator (you were an accidented dust/collision)

I'm asking you why do you believe Muhammad is right when there are similar claims of his myths in other religions and cultures?

Why do believe Muhammad rode on a flying donkey and Harry Potter didn't rode on a flying broom stick? What's your conviction?

LabuleofNigeria:


Do you know how many religions & mystical claims that exist? thousands
There is more to life than seeking whats not lost. I am contented with Islam.

What if you're wrong?

How can you possibly know you're wrong when you haven't read other mythical books?

What makes you pick only Islam?

LabuleofNigeria:


If you are demanding proof on Prophet Muhammad's claim, he is long dead, take his books and read first, study his speeches first.
Then follow up with research and seek your conviction.

If you are not convinced, move forward to Oyingbo woman and continue same trend till you find your conviction. religion yapa, infact you can start yours

What about reading Harry Potter book? Have you done that to know the truth about his magic?

Have you read all the mythical books? How did you arrive that Muhammad is right?

LabuleofNigeria:


Whats faulty in respecting other people's beliefs and not crossing them?
Learn to be civil, must everyone be like some of your brothers who kill others because they see them as unbelievers ?

Respecting someone's claim is another thing as long as you keep the fairytale to yourself but saying it's the true is another thing.

You can't go about making true claims of your imaginations and don't expect people not to demand for proof? What if the person claim his God command him to kill children?

LabuleofNigeria:

You need not a fellow man's proof for a "Self-conviction". except you are willing to bow to my God and take him as your God first

No, I'm demanding proof from the person that made the claim. He made a claim, he should proof it or keep his fairytale to himself.

Oga, the concept of God became human is not true and unrealistic in this case, Jesus never called himself God.

Don't forget you said your world view is base on subjectivism, so if she claim she's God in human then that's her self-conviction so also Jesus. Or how will you disprove that when you are ok with whatever they claim?

True for their various followers

Lol. Okay.

I don't understand how my topic sound derogatory when I used "I think" and " what do you think".

You're just finding every means to make this thread about conflicts which is not the intention.

LabuleofNigeria:


Opinions/thougths doesnt have to come with evidence, Its knowledge sharing. Good/Correct!
Opinions/thoughts that seems derogatory to others has to be carefully selected and should come with evidences

My Opinion sounded like Insults to you ONLY because its derogatory to your personality

Ok.

IMAliyu:

On the witchcraft and charm thing.
I've heard multiple stories about them but I've never met someone that's done it or seen it in person for myself. So all we have are anecdotal evidence.
But something like the bullet charm thing could very well be surviver bias.
Anyone that does the charm and die due to being shot probably didn't do it correctly or did something that broke it and anyone that didn't die or get shot, due to the gun being jammed or the bullet missed will now be thinking it was because the charm worked. If such charms really worked Africans should had never lost to the European conquers.
On the money rituals thing in Hausa we have the saying "Da kura na yin maganin zawo da yayi ma kan shi"
"If a hyena had the medicine for diarrhea it would had used it on it's self"
If these people could really make money appear magically, wouldn't it make more sense for them to use it on themselves and not to be selling it others. And if it really did work, shouldn't we try to use them to fix our forex shortage problem in the country?
The issue with spiritualism is anyone can claim anything without the need to provide proof because it's not anchored to anything compared to physical scientific claim that can be tested and results should be replicable by anyone anywhere and if not that claim is false.
So what is the established methodology to finding out which form of spiritualism is real or not? Because it would be easy to create a story and feed it to people that are into superstition.

He said anything can be true as long as you're self-convinced. He even accepted my winged yellow giant monkey created the universe.

Anybody can make up nonsense in his world view and said it's the true. Maybe he doesn't see the delusion here and why such ideology is wrong and faulty.

LabuleofNigeria:


would you accept my claims if i tell you right now that "I am President Buhari" ?
would you accept my claims if i tell you to send me some money that i can double your money in 2 hours?
not all claims are worth stressing your thoughts over.

I will demand for proof.

But you on the other hand don't need proof. Subjective claims are enough for you.

My creator cannot be a monkey hunting for bananas (i cant be superior to my creator)
If my creator was born in 1999, who was in charge of the world before her birth?

Why not? She can be like Jesus, God become human.

the 3 are claims, 1 out of the 3 observed to sound meaningful has been researched, tested, confirmed by me, and i've got a personal self-conviction as proof to attest to it as my God.
It works for me.

Find what works for you too.

Ok, all gods in Religions including the winged monkey created the universe.

LabuleofNigeria:
i never insulted you bro.
I only gave an opinion

The truth is, Posting unconfirmed/unverifiable/baseless "thoughts" on other peoples beliefs/lifestyle without cognitive evidences is uncivil.
Learn that !

Opinions or thoughts doesn't have to come with evidence, it's about sharing knowledge. Evidence is plausible.

So if you've any good evidence, present them or give us your thoughts. Haba, does everything have to do with conflicts.

LabuleofNigeria:
Children unborn will read our conversation and smile at your hypocrisy, ignorance and swerviness. dont tell your children your NL monika o

No red herring.

Let's continue with our discussion.

LabuleofNigeria:


Huuuuuncle, NO!
I only believe and take God (Allah) as my creator and the creator of the universe. Tell me yours ?

Oh, so you now believe the winged monkey and the woman of oyingbo didn't create the universe.

So why do you believe Allah created the universe and the winged monkey didn't create the universe? Aren't they both true claims?

LabuleofNigeria:


anything "Believe" is not always physically verifiable and it is based on "self-conviction" all man for himself

You see why you will keep going in circles.

Ok, Allah, the woman and winged monkey created the universe, yes?

LabuleofNigeria:


If your own boss or FATHER brought up an unrealistic topic saying " I think DANFO can fly"
you deserve to tell him "I think TVs can fly too"

stunted brains stinks

Nah, I would give my opinion since he asked for my opinion base on the topic not start insulting him(That's ad hominem fallacy).

LabuleofNigeria:


Must we revolve on same point all day long?

I am not convinced to accept that. She isnt God to me. She isnt my God.
If she claims to be God, thats ok for her & her deciples/followers

Why aren't you convinced to accept her claim? Why she isn't God to you? Why?