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You really don't have to use such foul words to mess up your points. The man works to keep himself and family afloat, especially in one of the worst of places, Nigeria. He deserves some respect for that. Plus I did not see anything abusive or derogatory in his post. So, why use such harsh, clueless and stupid words on him?

There are people who shuttles Nigeria and other countries of this world. They have interests here at home and all over the globe. And they can afford to stay anywhere at time T. Yet, they feel more relaxed and comfortable over here at home. For some of us, we love our traditions, our culture better than what all these other countries you boast of have to offer. You can call ours crude and all what not. But I'll still stick with ours here than face what those countries have to offer.
The point I'm making is that different people have different reasons for doing what they do - including where they stay and others. It's their choice.

bro, u dey mind the guy

some confuzzled souls wouldnt understand lil things. The thread isnt about the standard of livin of the genreal populace compared to thos in Nigeria and since the man has decided to use me as a yardstick to measure how living abroad is better, then my summary is perhaps living abroad diminishes the ability to reason and come with informed statements. That guy is a classic example of an educated but yet not exposed individual.

i dey waka joh

Look mister, you make very stupid, convoluted and insane statements because of the blindness of your mind. Let me respond to some of your foolishness, perhaps your vain pride will let you get some understanding:

1. Lagos, Abuja and PH do not constitute the whole country, doofus! Yet you are grandstanding on mere ignorance?? The success of a nation is not measured by their best (strongest of them), but an appraisal of the weakest of them. In any of those places you mentioned, life is ". . .poor, nasty, brutish and short. . .", take this from someone who has lived and worked in Abuja even before you got your pathetic job, lived in Lagos, and visited more parts of Nigeria than your sorry ass. Guess what? There are places over here which you haven't heard about. . .not New York, LA, London, Paris, Toronto, Madrid. . .but life here is way, way, way, way much better than you will ever know. Believe that people who work here as welders (nothing wrong with that job), they make more money and live a better quality of life than you will ever know. If you make millions from your suffer-head white collar job and you can go to the malls and buy imported goods and flaunt it in the face of your less fortunate neighbor, but can you buy good roads, electricity (not generator killing you with noise and pollution), freedom without harassment from politicians, thugs and robbers, justice and fair hearing (almost 100% of the time), health care that you can bank on (remember your president will not even vouch for his life after spending N2B to import equipment for his personal use, and the list goes on. . .endlessly). This is not in a popular city and this is even for less than average people who can only have an ordinary job. Now, think of people who actually aim very high in their vocations and create the technologies the company you work for sells or markets in Nigeria.

2. Those companies you mention (Chevron, Shell, Haliburton, etc) are only paying you slave wages for all I care. How much do you earn that you think it is representative of everyone in Nigeria? Guess what? In a proper, fair and functioning system, although people will work for these companies you boast about, a lot of people will not. Some will finish their high school, start on a bright idea and make more money you could never dream about. You are talking of a job like you will keep the job forever. . .you must be demented. Look at the worst cases in the villages and smaller towns where real people face serious challenges foisted on them mostly by a system that is designed to limit them from the day they were born. The salary you get per year is what some students will get here on a scholarship in one year and you are flexing muscle? The least privileged person here will still enjoy the roads you cannot, the power you cannot, the peace you cannot, the stability you cannot, better health care than Yaradua can buy for billions in Germany! I am talking about the least privileged in a small town ad your are boasting about a failed system operating in the "best" places in Nigeria?

3. I bet you can never quit or resign this job you worship except you die or are incapacitated, can you? I see your are even talking about the fact that you are a "big boy". . .utter FOOLISHNESS. Look, it is only in failed and failing states like Nigeria that how big you are is important. When you visited somewhere outside Nigeria, did anyone notice your clothes, your jewelery or that you are a big boy? Did you not join a queue, wait for your turn and address even a receptionist with respect and courtesy? If you disagreed with someone, did you just slap them and insist on YOUR way? Look, in a functioning system, a much higher paying job will be resigned and the person goes back to school or quits to take his life in another direction. Can anyone in Nigeria (average Joe the Plumber) resign his job and be confident of his next steps?

The problem with guys like you are a lot
~you think everybody has difficulties travelling abroad
~You think everybody would like to live in New York and blah blah blah to make it
~you definitely think living abroad is a sign of fulfillment

Like i said before, this thread has been derailed since and i hope the OP can re-direct posters to the original intent of this thread which happens to be the fate of those travelling months to go to spain, Libya and other countries near Africa.

This thread has nothin to do with the comparisons of those living abroad and those in Nigeria

To address some of ur points, i'll only say empty vessels make the loudest noise.
Its typical of those that are struggling abroad to be quick to cast aspersions and make derogatory comments of those who live here.

some of us have lived there, studied there and were given birth to there and still would prefer to live here
if living in Nigeria and callin meself a big boi elicited all those comments then i can only laff at u.

If ure not mentally deranged, uncivilised and crude, then you wouldnt throw insults to drive home needless points
If the points in me posts were scatterd and you couldnt get hold of them, all u had to do was read my summary; in it lies the point that says, you can make it anywhere. The idea is to have a plan that works for you.

uve gat norrin on me bro, enjoy

lolol at the responses of people

ill take it one by one

What the hell is a Diasporic people

Are you in insane!!!!

diasporic people
thats a new one
hehehe

dayokanu:
Tkb, You don goof, the guy name na Kalakuta

felas shrine
thts even worse

chic2pimp:
Chei Laff Don Kill Me oooo For NL

when are u postin ur own chicken?

nateevs:
Seriously though, Obertan sounds like the name you give to someone who talks a lot of crap. . .
Honestly!

how about sukuta pasu abi wht the fck is the name of the new guy that nearly got u banned?
sounds like a name of someone whos brain has melted

Outstrip:
Africa gets on my nerves sometimes. When I see these young people who have so much to offer being reduced to almost non human because there seems to be no hope. Many of these people come overseas and make it. You see them 3 years from now and you will not believe their story. It's almost like other people appreciate Africans more. If not for the wonderful people we are but at least they can depend on the fact that they can make money from Africans because most are hardworking people who will do anything to succeed legally. What do people in power in African countries do? They sit up there and scratch their balls while pictures like this surface all over the web so that people can see how pathetic and disgraceful most African countries are

thank you ma sister for taking us back to the topic

i really wouldnt wanna believe people trek to Libya all in d name of searching for the proverbial golden fleece
Thats absurd and its worrisome the government are doing nothing to checkmate this

Ive heard stories of people starvin to death whilst tryin to make these journies?
may God help Africa

@Dayo
if u post your diamond Bank Ilorin days pics here, this site go crash

so wetin u dey try do with your Chevron helmet?

ode? make me sef go put ma Bonny Island pic?

lol
i don see them; do i need ur pics?
i don sabi you since 1999

Krayola:
haha. Me I never pretended to be a sophisticated saint. i'm a pot smoking alcoholic thug. Na by force i take dey school. Na Alagbon I suppose dey  

lol
i agree

Nonsense!

I encourage anybody who wants to leave Nigeria to leave. With the most useless government in the world holding Nigeria hostage and their cronies wallowing in opulence from pilfering the treasury, those not connected to the network of thieves in Nigeria hardly have a chance of making it.

Those not connected are making it
when did you leave Nigeria? have you heard about the emergence of the middle class in Nigeria?
I'm in Nigeria and not a politician and i can stand anybody anywhere in the world. Ive not stolen a kobo and there are thousands of people like me.
Mind you, i havent said ure wrong about people going abroad if they want, but i strongly object to your latter tune
I have friends who work in good coys abroad who would like to join the Nigerian arm of the company . as a matter of fact, they are increasing day in day out

Leaving aside the self-selectivity factor of immigrants for a moment, the proportion of success stories among Nigerians living in the Diaspora is far more than the proportion of success stories among Nigerians living in Nigeria. Even the few success stories in Nigeria are riddled with kleptomanic politicians looting the treasury with impunity, debt-dependent crooks posing as business men taking $billions they know not when or how to pay, and extortionists/fraudsters in the deeply corrupt civil service frustrating every means of improving the social infrastructure of the nation.

except your defination of success stories in Nigeria means having billions in bank accounts, then ure right. If what i see when i go abroad amongst our fellas abroad is what you call success stories, then you need a trip down to Lagos, PH and Abuja Nigeria to have a feel of our upwardly mobile professionals
uve been abroad for too long

Unfortunately, the few who are making it legitimately in Nigeria have allowed their success to blind them of the fact that Nigeria is structured to churn out more failures than successes in an ugly zero-sum game of survival.

? zero game of survival?
ask the IFC, IBRD, Chevron, Shell, Haliburton, Rencap, vectis  boiz and gurls if they'll swap their jobs for a livin abroad
as for me, its a NO

where you are suits you, where i am is fine by me.
I can claim to be big here, i doubt u can claim a big boi wherever u are

nice submissions tho
just wanna downplay the whole schitzo
no need to attack one another. Na God know where everybody go make am
our models cant be same

hmmm
the OP is not wrong although some of his submissions can be questioned

but im a bit taken aback by some people by their unguarded comments as regards this topic

@Poster, you're only posting this because you are in a better position. Just thank God that you're comfortable. If I was the owner of Nairaland, I would take your post down. Your post and pictures smack of arrogance and disrespect for the feelings of others No wonder, people are migrating to other forums on the web. Nairaland is gradually becoming a place where people come and assuage their egos instead of finding solutions to the problems besieging Nigeria and Africa in General. However, Its a free world.

Mind you, I'm comfortable where I am. Peaceout.

This is totally off tangent
are you an illegal immigrant? if youre not, then dont respond to the guy
do you look like one of the pics hes posted

if you have read his post very well, you would have noticed this thread is about those who make the needless journey through the desert in the name of travelling abroad. How that becomes you beats me hands down

guys, free the man and let him express himself; and for all those questioning the stand of the thread, this is much more better than the rubbish threads that spring up in the romance section.

sara2007:
Sorry, anna123 was created today while i was teaching someone how to create a nairaland id. Forgot to log out.

fair enuff
it happens

Dayo
why u remove the pic?
u dey crase?

dayokanu:
Here comes FC Bayern

Off in 3minutes

for where
u cant remove it

I have made a point of duty to be giving her monthly stipend of fifty thousand naira for transport, and advise her to always pay for two or three seats instead of taking a cab. If I call her she would close late, I will tell my driver to wait for her and drop her in her house, then I would go home with staff bus.

u give ur gurl 50k for transport per month

i dont think a transporter makes that much a month. so hw much is Ago Palace to Marina?
and she takes bus? to pay for 2-3 seats?

i see

ok we don gree
Barca is first

no contest

oh i forgot
Vicade has one here

Krayola:
Ladies and Gentlemen, as we approach the final lap we Have Barcelona running away with the crown and Chelsea making a late run for it. Tkb417's late effort has put Man Utd back in the race, but Arsenal is not in the title race, AS USUAL.  

did Arsenal tell u they are competing for anythn?
den don carry last

oya sauron, post a pic na
Krayola, ure missin somthin o, u forgot Ruudie has posted his pic and hes a manc
so we have 2 mancs already.
we are tied with barca

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=16300.msg4904359#msg4904359 date=1257959964]Nah. . . . . . .Na Ibime carry the snake.
His beard na like Guru Mahraji.[/quote]
na lie
e be like Fidel castro when e dey young

hw many OPs do we have?
anna or sarah?

na Ibime dey right nau
tht one resemble 45 year old man for ur villa?

lololol
nice one Krayola

Ibime:
Krayola, thats the spirit. . . . Chelsea sef no dey slack. . . .

correct
Ibime is showing levels

oyinbo pepper

so who are we seeing next?

why den dey shame?

lets see some more

Ibime:
My pics are all over da place. . . . I no be criminal. . . why I go shame?

Oya, here's my pic. . .

ol boi, put another pic make i see your face

had to lafff
hehehehehehe

u dey mind Sauron
proper london tout

thank u

Agege North Local Government Chairman

lmao!

just a jaq on a pair of chino and shirt
nothn yorubaish in dt

hehehehehehehehehehe
thunder fire all of una

@Sauron
homeboyz at Ojuelegba?

those were UNI days

@Ibime
u dont wanna knw hw much i bought the jaq

lol @ slick rick
foolish boi  

@Ibime
carry tht bottle commot for ur face na

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=16300.msg4903812#msg4903812 date=1257955399]U can't be trusted.
Randy goat!!! [/quote]rflmao

im a new creature, old things have passed away, all things have become new

its jaybee and co that are now rolling the street looking for whom to devour

@Ibime
u no say u never put ur real pic o

madman
abuse don start shey?
hehehe

It has to be blur o or else Sanusi go pick me tmr

Krayola:
haha. tkb417 has saved face Manchester United. nice one. You have earned a yabbing license   Yab at will!!



Oya Who's next?!?!  

meanin i have a license to yab and not to be yabbed shey?  


[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=16300.msg4903796#msg4903796 date=1257955288]TKB, what's the ERECTION for?
Did you just get your cock sucked?? [/quote]armageddon!!!!!!!
ure a fooool