ijawkid:

Don't feel too happy.....todaynatoday knows xmas is a fraud and he isn't a celebrant.......

Yes, I don't attach much importance to Christmas or birthday celebrations. I just want us to end this thread amicably or else this thread would just be like the angel Michael=Jesus thread, never-ending.

@op, what exactly do you want them to explain. Can you explain something you don't understand? These atheists just love to argue, you'll be doing yourself a favor by leaving them to their beliefs (disbelief).

^^^^ Could you please grow a backbone? Aren't you tired of this trinity stuff? The thread says "Post your favorite bible verse" not "Support trinity doctrine with a bible verse"

Okay, this thread has gone on for too long. Can we end it with this verse?
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Romans 14:22
New International Version
(NIV)
22 So whatever you believe about these things keep between yourself and God.
Blessed is the one who does not condemn
himself by what he approves.

Chai!!! Una don use style style, turn "favourite bible verses" to "favourite trinitarian and anti trinitarian bible verses".
Well my favourite is Romans 8:28
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King James Version
(KJV)
28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to
them who are the called according to his
purpose.

ooman:

You profess is with your mouth yet you remain poor and Nigeria is rated among the poorest and most corrupt country in the world. Dont you think you are a stain to the black race?

Stain in what way? I sense unnecessary hate all over your post. So do you hate me because I believe in God? I might not be loaded with cash but I have peace of mind when I'm with God. Even if Nigeria is turned into a warzone, I'll keep on serving God, He is my Rock and my Refuge, my Comforter, Master, Healer, Counsellor, Protector and my Saviour. There is no one like Him.
By the way, are you not a Nigerian?
If you are a Nigerian, aren't you also part of that stain on the black race?

And to those saying that angels celebrated Jesus' birthday, you should know that there was nothing to celebrate at all. They already knew Jesus was coming to earth to reunite us with His Father, heck, they already knew Him in heaven, why would they celebrate His incarnation as a man. They were celebrating because of the salvation of men.

Luke 2:10-14
King James Version
(KJV)
10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of
great joy, which shall be to all people.
11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.
12 And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling
clothes, lying in a manger.
13 And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising
God, and saying,
14 Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.

They were celebrating because God had sent His Son to save us and reunite us with His Father.

plappville:

If He does, it will still work for Him, people who do not care what the scripture says, but follow men traditions will accept whatever is put to them:
Matthew 15:9 They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.'"

That was sarcasm my dear

Abegi, Christmas is not a celebration of Christ's birth, it is just another public holiday when you remember:
* christmas tree
* satan claus a.k.a father christmas (na im kukuma get am)
* elves and the north pole
* snowman
* to throw fire crackers and disturb my peace
* that chicken & rice is suddenly so important
* to go to beach and have fun (woo hoo, Jesus would be so pleased)
* to go clubbing (praise the lord somebody)
Although I have no qualms with christmas, I just hate it when people try to paint it as something that is so important. Maybe it used to be about the birth of Christ but now, christmas has lost its' essence. Pagans have reclaimed their celebration (maybe the pope should change it to the celebration of Jesus' baptism)

Atheist:-D:


No sex.... gulp

An eternity with no sex.

You act like that's a bad thing. Is sex your god?

We don't just say it in our hearts. We confess with our mouths and shout it. there is God! And He is sooooo good. Your likes will never stop me from worshipping God.

Atheist:-D:


Ijaw kid said there will be none of the above.

Obadiah isn't referring to God's abode but to the new earth of which there will be food but on the issue of marriage, s..e..x & slavery, I'm not too sure of that.

Now pertaining to Jesus' kingdom that He is coming to set up on earth.
Revelation 21:1-5
King James Version
(KJV)
21 And I saw a new heaven and a new
earth: for the first heaven and the first
earth were passed away; and there was no
more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of
heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her
husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is
with men, and he will dwell with them, and
they shall be his people, and God himself
shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more
death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither
shall there be any more pain: for the
former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said
unto me, Write: for these words are true
and faithful.

You guys are confusing heaven (Yahweh's abode) with His Son's kingdom that He is coming to set up on earth. Besides there is no marriage in heaven.
Mark 12:24-25
King James Version
(KJV)
24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know
not the scriptures, neither the power of
God?
25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in
marriage; but are as the angels which are
in heaven.

In a way we can say God slayed him because He removed His protective covering over Saul's life due to Saul's disobedience. God allowed Saul to die because he disobeyed God's direct command to him in regards to slaying the Amalekites and he also practised spiritism.
Now the truth is that Saul killed himself but since he lost a war to the philistines, they claimed victory for his death. Someone (the amalekite) knew that Saul wanted to kill David and when he saw Saul's dead body, he decided to claim victory for his death too. He went to David and pronounced himself as the killer of Saul in order to find favor in the eyes of David but he was killed for touching God's once anointed servant (although he never killed Saul, he lied thinking that David would honour him).
Hope you are satisfied now?

frosbel:

I totally agree !

The problem is that Trinitarians do not count Unitarians as real Christians despite their belief that Jesus Christ came in the flesh and is the Messiah aka Son of GOD.

Wouldn't really tag myself as a Unitarian. Nontrinitarian is more like it but all in all, we do believe that Jesus is the Christ.

^^^^ If you start with in Jesus Name, you will still be praying through Jesus. He said ask the Father anything in my name. So you can still say, "in Jesus' name i come to you Father in heaven" If there was a procedure to strictly follow, then why are people still getting answers to their prayers and why do you end it with "Jesus" name and not "Yeshua" name and still get answers? All that matters is to have faith and to believe that your prayer(s) has been heard.

I'm with you on this. At least we will all agree that Jesus Christ is the messiah.

^^^^^ ummm...... Does it really matter how you start the prayer so far in your heart you know who you are referring to. Sometimes I start with In Jesus' Name, sometimes O LORD! and more recently my Father in heaven. But does it really matter how the prayer is started so far I get answers to my prayer. I think faith is what really matters.

^^^ If the truth will not change then we shouldn't be afraid to pray right? I know about all those verses and if you read the thread from the beginning you will see that I'm with you on this. My point is, why do we see it this way and trinitarians see it differently? Since we all have the Holy Spirit, we should all have the same answers. The Holy Spirit cannot be confusing us all.

inurmind:


Bragging rights

Well then, goodluck to whoever wins.

What exactly does the poster of the year get as his/her reward?
* An all expense paid trip to dubai
* A jet
* Free internet for 365 days
* Wardrobe allowance for one year
* A dinner at an exquisite hotel

^^^ The reason why I asked for us to seek God's face is so that this argument will finally come to an end. Threads debating trinity are already too much on nairaland. The trinitarians refuse to believe that their doctrine is false while the non-trinitarians refuse to believe that the trinity doctrine is true. What I want is for us to seek a common ground instead of arguing unnecessarily. The Holy Spirit can not be the originator of the confusion abounding today. Do we have different Holy Spirit(s)? One is telling people that God is a triune being while another one is saying God is one (i assume we all have the Holy Spirit). If we all have the same Holy Spirit then we must all have the same answers, the Holy Spirit cannot be confusing us. So instead of using scriptures to mudsling ourselves, let us seek for answers from the Spirit of truth, the one who holds all truth.

inurmind:

I let it flow in the manner I liked, not the regular and easily predictable way.
Thanks though for acknowledging atheists as people who bring up good arguments.

That's the thing, you guys argue so much about something you don't believe in. I just want to know why; what do you seek to gain by trying to disprove the existence of God? do you feel glad when someone stops believing in God? What made you to stop believing in God?

inurmind:

It was a nice time arguing with you too.
Bring me the next one.

You didn't even present your pink unicorn argument very well. Did you just start being an atheist?

^^^^ That doesn't stop us from seeking the truth from God. Let this argument just cease because it's causing more division among us (this is what the devil wants). No more arguments, instead more prayers!

^^^^^ What do you have against Jehovah Witnesses? What makes you to believe that they don't have the Holy Spirit?

inurmind:

Don't get the point?
the pink unicorn is your "God".
the only difference here is that he was brought in a strange and childish light.
and most of the time you questioned him with the same reasons atheists use to question your god.

I know about the pink unicorn argument used by atheists. I just decided to humor you cos frankly I can see that you derive great pleasure in bashing worshippers of God (hope i have made you happy?). Since you have proved to me that there is no God, could you kindly allow me to blindly worship Him with faith [i know you hate the word] in His existence. You don't believe in the existence of God but yet you spend so much time talking and thinking about Him.

Logicboy03:



you want me to die abi? Fight religion in Nigeria? So that Oyedepo can slap me?


Even in london I have almost ben stabbed twice for telling fellow young Nigerians that their bible has flaws in it

I think you are just exaggerating what really happened. They literally tried to stab you or are you just saying that for effect? By the way, you say you have a problem with religion but it seems to me that it is Christianity that you have a problem with.

inurmind:


I'm sorry @today but I'll have to visit my kjv bib...oops, I meant my holybook to give you answers to your questions.

Even your pink unicorn holybook is a cheap rip-off of the Bible. You have just proven that your god is a lie thereby proving that your belief is not sensible.

Logicboy03:


Helping poor peeps in africa by sending money and doing some charity work

That's commendable and i pray you don't get weary of doing that but the thing is that religion is not the cause (it might be a contributing factor) of poor peeps or homeless children in Africa so I don't see how charity work is helping in your fight against religion.

inurmind:
but my god also says the same thing about your god and his angels, so how can we prove who's right?

what exactly does your god teach you? Because so far, your god hasn't been original; he has just been repeating everything my God says just so that he can deceive you my friend. My God says he's a demon and he repeats the exact same thing to you but this time putting himself as the person speaking the truth. Doesn't he have anything original to say? and please let him tell you something different this time around.

Wow! the funniest thing is that I should be asking you and your fellow theists every single question you have asked me.

I asked first so can I get your answer.