₦airaland Forum

udilson: U see if u want to fight insurgent train u watsoever dum pple in us/china/russia nd nt wt so called invaders israel.jonajang...
Zanfara state gov want nig troops 2 trains nd arm vigilantee against arm robbers u crying foul
soo u dump pple wat i'l u call these all am asking is justice

wetin this one come talk now?

complete violation of nairaland rule 21

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Actually, abortion is at the tail end of long spectrum of contraception and if women are well educated on s.exual and reproductive health, they need not find themselves at that controversial end.
Abortion isn't popular and bearing in mind the consertive and religious society like Nigeria, I doubt its acceptance. However, onus lies on us to reduce unneccesssary maternal death secondary to desperate attempt to terminate unwanted pregnancies and the answer is comprehensive s.ex education for both male and female right from preteen years.
Teenagers should be encouraged to postpone s.ex until they are both financialy and emotionaly ready, its the best and safest form of contraception. However, they should be well informed of choices available to them in case they change their mind and decide to have s.ex. Teengers should not be made vulnerable because they decide to be s.exually active. They should be educated on how to prevent unwanted pregnancies and STDs via the various sexual types. S.exually active youth should also be encouraged to go for regular check up and possible treatment in case they harbour asymptomatic infection so as to remain healthy and not be a reservior for STI.
Comprehensive s.ex education is rich and if well implemented has the propensity to reduce incidence of unwanted pregnancy and abortion in our society. Various studies have validated this fact. Women will ensure they live a healthy sexual lifestyle that does not end on the doctors abortion table.
Evidence has shown that teenage pregnancy and abortion rate is lower in countries that legalised abortion when compared to non legalised countries e.g in the u.k, incidence of abortion is 12.5 to 1000 when compared to 50 to 1000 in Nigeria, leading to an estimate of 670,000 illegal abortion and 20,000 abortion related deaths/year in the latter. While teenage pregnancy reduced by 5.4% in the u.k it remained constant in Nigeria. This distinction in statistics is obviously due to numerous and accessible reproductive centers that offer advise to young women related to s.ex education and healthy s.exual lifestyle in the u.k.

The right of a woman to choose isn't about killing her baby but making an informed and sound decision concerning a critical life changing circumstances in an atmosphere that promotes choices. Choices that ranges from choosing to keep her baby, seeking family support, giving it up for adoption or handing over the child for foster care. Its not all about abortion. Anti-abortionist should ensure the feasibilty, viability and practicability of alternate choices available to an anxious pregnant mother. Its not enough to take a stand against abortion, that will solve nothing and help nobody. They should provide support both emotionally and financially, create a relaxed and acceptable atmosphere that will welcome both the mother and child. Until then abortion(legalized or not), remains the only option scared pregnant mothers are willing to embrace to escape the shame and hostility associated with pre marital pregnancy. Abortion is illegal in Ireland and being a strong catholic community abortion is frowned upon and its in no way encouraged, yet thousands of Irish young women travel to u.k anually to have their babies killed.
I quite agree abortion is killing but its not murder. In any case of murder there must be hatred and wrong motive. these 2 are not entailed in the definition of abortion. The same reason manslaughter, killing in self defence, killing in times of war by the military, death sentence execution, are not considered murders also applies for abortion. Therefore, if we're to advocate illegalization of abortion, it should be relative and not absolute. Yes, sanctity of life must be respected but in special circumstances this must give way for the reality on ground as defined by the society. Even the bible both directly and indirectly gives credence to this assertion. (exodus 21:22-24; genesis 38:24; deuteronomy 22: 13-21).
I don't support indiscriminate or routine use of abortion as a form of contraception - just like any other medical procedure it has its own risks and complications - but its indication should be permitted in the ff condition:
-in any case of the mother's life is endangered by virtue of her pregnancy and the only practical step is termination of pregnancy,
-rape
-incestuous acts
-pregnant women in extremes of age ie females < 14yrs or > 50yrs and they are in no desirous need of a child.
-malformed or congenital abnormal fetus
-as a form of contraception to married couples who mistakenly took in due to failure of other form of contraceptives.

All in all, abortion is a battle none can win as both sides have strong moral convictions about their stand and are not willing to shift ground. Rather i enjoin us to look for a common ground for the sake of our women.

This issue of poverty level, based on $1 per day had been explained on previous thread.
That figure is a relative term and nor absolute. Its the total income of the work force in a country divided by the nation's population OR total household income divided by number of people in the family. If its less than $2/day then the family is deemed poor. e.g if a man earns #30000/month and has a family of 1 wife(not working), 3 children and an elderly, they all live below the poverty level. Thats how they came about the 45% of nigeria living below poverty level. Its nothing personal against nigeria.

Concerning the rebased gdp I think its expected since previous gdp didn't account for the informal sector which is where the real growth of our economy lies. The nation isn't producing jobs so alot of youths are taking succour in trading, artisanship, transport and various semi-skilled labour, thus that sector is actually growing.
The agricultural sector constitute 40% of gdp and employs 30% of work force so its not out of place to say significant number of nigerians live in rural areas. In fact, apart from lagos and some 5 states plus abuja, other states in nigeria are more or less rural areas, thus i can safely conclude 70% of nigerians live in rural areas.
And please stop using phones to determine wealth. Mobile phone is now deemed a neccessity and not a luxury/want.
Back to our gdp; Nigeria has enjoyed trade surplus and an average growth rate of 7% over the last 15 yrs, the bane of our stunted development is mismanagement and lack of foresight by our public office holders and this administration is no exception.
If we had been serious with our economy and done the right thing, some of those jobs, factories and IT firms that were outsourced to china and india would have come to nigeria. We have the land, abundant natural resources, skilled human resources, cheap labour, young workforce, a large population, a huge market with strong apetite located strategically in africa. We have what it takes to attract foreign direct investment. By now we will be talking of a gdp around $800 billion or even 1 trillion, but alas we messed it up and we're all paying for it.
We have a growing jobless economy that is heavily oil dependent. Oil makes up only 11% of our gdp yet constitute 95% of our export earning and 85% of govt revenue. No successive govt has make any serious effort to stimulate potentials in other sectors of the economy to generate jobs and revenue. It has always been about oil.
Apart from civil service, political patronage, few upstream sector and informal sector, no other sector is employing. The indians, chinese and lebanese controls our manufacturing sector and the last thing u wish for is to work for those people. The service sector is shedding more than it employs - thus the 25% unemployment we have in the nation.
However, its never too late. When u dig a hole and u fall inside the next thing to do is to come out. Lets hope jonathan and his economic team gets it right and hopefully give us some REAL fresh air not the one we see on paper.
finaly, Its too early to say nigeria now has the largest economy in africa. As at 2011 SA has a gdp of around $400 billion and at a growth rate of 3%, they should be above 405 billion. Their last estimate pegged it at $411 billion. Lets wait for the official report b4 we conclude.

@ bidam or any pro tither
if you say we should tithe by faith, then what happens to those that disobeys? since christians are called to live by faith. what then is the consequences for non tithers? Does it mean the blessing of heaven will be shut against them because they refuse to tithe? Don't u think this negates the very principle the new covenant is established.
what about those that were coerced into tithing and not by faith? will they still enjoy the open heavens that comes with tithing. This is very important because it will clarify whether tithe is an ordinance or a kingdom principle.
circumcision was also pre law and was practised for ages until it was abolished in the NT, why then are u hinging the validity of tithe on pre mosaic law
Yes, Jesus encouraged tithing but he also encouraged restitution but the latter is not considered a very important christian practice. Rather it's left to a believer whether to restitute for his past misdeed or not. why is tithe different since both were express instruction laid out by God in the OT? Remember Jesus condemned a man who was telling God that he was a faithful tither.
hebrew 7 and 8 clearly indicates the impotence of the old covenant including its practice of tithe and has been replaced by a new one. Then why should we pay tithe according to an abolished covenant?

The o.p is a liar.
Try and watch inside africa on cnn, it focuses on economic potential, investment opportunities and enterpreneurship on the african continent.
The last one i watched was on Tony elumelu's investment drive in the nigerian newly privatised power sector via one of his holdings. They even described him as a successful business man who transformed uba into one of the most powerful banks on the continent with branches worldwide b4 he resigned as ceo to manage his private holding.
Lets try and state fact objectively and not attempt at misinforming people via spreading of propanganda.

They reported the incident to the ethopian police.
Where were the police during the mob action? Maybe they were among the irate fans throwing stones. Lets thank God they preferred that to pulling the trigger.
And i hope they know there's a return leg here in nigeria.

Ingestion of honey in neonates causes infant botulism. This is due to presence of bacterial spores in honey. The spores germinate and produce toxins.
The toxin causes paralysis, floppiness and sudden death in neonates.
I'm sure no doctor will recommend honey as a remedy for neonatal hypoglycemia, and neither should you.

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Actually what we call holy soleminization is just a funfair ceremony. Payment of bride price in the presence of both family members is the marriage. The court wedding handles official documentations and other related matters. The date on ur marriage certificate is ur legal wedding date.
So, if u've done the above 2, u are already married b4 man, society and God. U dont need any pastor joining u again.
However, i understand ur desire to have a church wedding. We all do.
But, most churches are having stricter rules concerning marriage union in the face of gross abuse of priviledges limited to marriage in our society.
It really has nothing to do with the bible since God instructs couples that engage in premarital intimacy to get married(exodus 22:16), paul also admonished people with uncontrollable burning desire to get married. There4 the decision by the couple to get married is laudable and should be applauded by all.
However, a situation where 9 month old pregnant lady walks down the aisle or co habiting couples desiring church union is an insult on the very foundation the church was established and a bad precept to follow. More over the church leads the moral crusade against fornication and there4 should set the principles.
Most churches will tell u its not compulsory u get married in the church, but if u desire then respect their rules on moral grounds and not necessary biblical.

Actually what we call holy soleminization is just a funfair ceremony. Payment of bride price in the presence of both family members is the marriage. The court wedding handles official documentations and other related matters. The date on ur marriage certificate is ur legal wedding date.
So, if u've done the above 2, u are already married b4 man, society and God. U dont need any pastor joining u again.
However, i understand ur desire to have a church wedding. We all do.
But, most churches are having stricter rules concerning marriage union in the face of gross abuse of priviledges limited to marriage in our society.
It really has nothing to do with the bible since God instructs couples that engage in premarital intimacy to get married(exodus 22:16), paul also admonished people with uncontrollable burning desire to get married. There4 the decision by the couple to get married is laudable and should be applauded by all.
However, a situation where 9 month old pregnant lady walks down the aisle or co habiting couples desiring church union is an insult on the very foundation the church was established and a bad precept to follow. More over the church leads the moral crusade against fornication and there4 should set the principles.
Most churches will tell u its not compulsory u get married in the church, but if u desire then respect their rules on moral grounds and not necessary biblical.

onila: most Nigerian tribes are too advanced to do this

ancestors in Nigeria are only honoured during masquerades dances or major cultural events

its quite impressive, that Angolans are still sticking to their culture

calling on the spirits of ancestors to bless a newly openned restaurant in Luanda


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onila, I hope u know culture is dynamic

ogwumgbe: But you collect tithes and offerings from the old testament and your prosperity preaching. Where in new testament is tight preached? slowpoke, keep deceiving yourself and being deceived by your blind pastors.

Jesus spoke about tithe and he encouraged xtians to practise it.
Paul also spoke about tithe and he said it's an honourable thing to do.

lokito: With the way girls draw tattoos nowadays, in 30 years time we will have a lot of grand mothers with tattoos. Lmao

Today's grandmothers and great grandmothers have tatoos on their bodies.
Observe ur environment.
Stop displaying ignorance.

@ o.p why not compare minimum wage in nigeria to that of india or china.
If u think labour wage is cheap in nigeria, its ridiculous in asia.

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ehizo25: I am still trying to crack my brain to think of any western country that tolerates or condones such thing as animal fights as a sporting event. Such a thing would attract the attention of animal rights activists and could result in jail term for the perpetrators if it is found out that they have broken any law(s). Violence among animals should not be promoted by humans in my opinion.

It is true that animals do fight each other in the wild, but they do so for reasons such as food, mate, territory, etc and not to satisfy the sadistic lust of some humans.

have u heard of bull fight and co.ck fight.

ehizo25: I am still trying to crack my brain to think of any western country that tolerates or condones such thing as animal fights as a sporting event. Such a thing would attract the attention of animal rights activists and could result in jail term for the perpetrators if it is found out that they have broken any law(s). Violence among animals should not be promoted by humans in my opinion.

It is true that animals do fight each other in the wild, but they do so for reasons such as food, mate, territory, etc and not to satisfy the sadistic lust of some humans.

have u heard of bull fight and cock fight.

@ o.p, ignore all these guys mailing u or sending their numbers. They're simply opportunist and desperados. They dont have any genuine intention. U've been warned.

The main issue here is that u want to have the 2 ends of a stick, eat ur cake and ave it back. A godly relationship devoid of sex but with loads of fun. That's going to be very hard, most guys that offers the latter will most likely demand for sex.
During my campus years, fellowship girls also wanted the same thing- a churchee wazzup guy, they remained single thruout their student days. These 2 things are diametrically opposite and rarely reconciliable.
Few sociable guys who may respect your views are those who wants to settle down soonest. At 23 are u ready to be a wife and a to be mother? U need to know that inside marriage fun, party, clubbing, and social life evaporates into thin air, nobody talks about them. Its all about responsibilities.
So my girl, u need to get ur priorities right. I really wonder why u're lonely and bored. London isn't that a boring place and I'm not convinced u really need a guy to overcome loneliness.
Besides, what are u doing at the moment? At 23 a nigerian girl is most likely exiting university, in NYSC service, engaging in skill acquisition, preparing for professional exams, working or searching for a job. Things may be different over there, but u adapt to the needs of ur environment to get busy.
But if u insist u need a man in ur life, talk to ur pastor. He will definitely hook u up with a man for the purpose of holy matrimony.

This water birth thing get as e be o.
The whole process looks unhygienic, i cant imagine sitting in a pool of water contaminated with blood, liquor, fecal matter and debris. And to think 2 to 3 people will be inside the contaminated pool. The risk of infection is real esp to the baby.
The argument that it reliefs labour pain and ensure muscle relaxation to the mother is unconvincing and simply psychosomatic. Its just an alternative way of reassuring anxious mothers. If u're really scared of labour pain, ask for epidural anaesthesia. You will sleep like a baby thruout the 1st stage of labour and the nurses will only wake u up when its time to push. A lot of nigerian hospitals offer epi anaesthesia during labour including established govt hospitals at a relatively affordable cost. It's a lot better than this unsubstantiated and dangerous experiment.
Finally and most importantly, the risk to the newborn is real! distressed babies make use of oxygen during passage thru the birth canal esp in cases of placenta insufficiency or umblical cord compromise. In a pool of water, the baby wont have the needed oxygen instead the baby aspirates contaminated water into her lungs. Thus the baby is at risk of birth asphyxia, brain damage, due to HIE, and pneumonia.
The truth is 95% of delivery will be uneventful irrespective of birth method used and most of these unconventional birth methods offers nothing and are placebo at best.

Promhize: Good job.
But pls travel abroad and learn the newest technologies.
This looks old-school. I mean I've seen better, go to youtube and u'll see.

the whole idea is application of local technology to solve local problems, and not importation of foreign technology. From this invention, local enterprises and companies can see one or 2 useful things and apply it for commercial purposes. This way, we can produce cheap but quality products that can compete favourably in the international market.
Thats how a nation grows.

blink182: Will the skull grow with him or it has to be changed periodically?

when u think u've seen it all on nairaland, something else just crops up.

ceejayluv: dude, the issue of age of marriage is entirely different. underage marriage is only possible if the law permits it. In many climes, already pregnant teens are allowed to marry (with parental consent, of course). And if the spouse in question is a foreigner, doesn't she have the right to adopt the spouse's nationality? Such girl can be considered an emancipated minor, per se..
If at all the marriageable age should be amended, it's definitely not in that section/clause...
Let's be rational please. I only blame the senator for cowering under pressure. He should have just given his reasons for voting No and sensitise his people on what actually transpired instead of apologising for doing nothing wrong.

nice try, but u remain wrong.
If the issue is all about nationality of the bride, why not allow for dual citizenship (which i think nigeria constitution already approve) instead of renunciation.
Now, men from chad, niger, mali and sudan can enter nigeria, negotiate a childbride, force her to renounce her nationality and they are automatically protected by law. Our security agencies will not be able to stop the abuse because the girl is no longer a nigerian.
Telling a 13 yr old girl that she has a choice to renounce her citizenship is outright ridiculous because the only reason she would do just that is if she's compelled to by an adult. That law fails to protect any girl, rather it exposes her to agents of manipulation, exploitation and abuse. It's the duty of the state to protect these girls not expose them to men who wants to take advantage of their vulnerabilities. There's a reason the constitution states that you must be 18 yrs b4 u can own a vehicle license, vote or drink alcohol. That's the age u are deemed full age to make a choice. There should be no exemption.
This issue of ammendment is all about childbride and desperate attempt to seek constitutional backing for the barbaric act.
A stunt yerima dare not attempt in egypt, he wants to make it the norm here.
Don't be fooled.

The o.p looks to me like someone trying to justify his pedo.philic lifestyle but has failed to convince nobody.
First, it's ridiculous when people keep refering to the legal age of marriage in the western world. Those laws u people keep quoting are for 2 minors/teenagers who wants to get married and not an adult getting married to marry a minor. Try and present ur childbride b4 a judge in new york and see how he will scrutinize ur case. The child will be snatched away from u and she will be pressurised to say u're trying to force her into marriage. U will be chained, thrown into jail and made to admit to being a sex offender for the rest of ur life.
2. Early marriage does not protect anybody from bre.ast cancer rather it puts the girl at risk of cervical cancer- something u conveniently failed to mention. Prolonged exposure to estrogen isn't the only risk factor associated with bre.ast C.A. Genetic mutation, familial predisposition and presence of some specific genes play bigger roles. Stop reading or quoting manipulated and unsubstantiated reports as facts. I've managed many women with bre.ast C.A and majority started having children quite early.
3. VVF is not the only obstretics complication associated with teenage pregnancy, these poor girls are also at risk of premature labour, pelvic dislocation, nerve compression and its subsequent limb paralysis during labour. The fact remains menarche is one of early sign of secondary sexual xtics of a girl, other part of the body are still developing and she's in no way ready to carry a baby in her womb.
4. Its funny when people keep saying early marriage is a solution to premarital sex. What happened to sex education, parental care and monitoring, good moral upbringing, women empowerment so that they don't become vulnerable and child rights protective laws.
5. Early marriage and teenage pregnancy is a fast and easy route to poverty. Most of this girls dont stay long in their husband's home. They are kicked out once their husband gets tired of their chidish behaviours. With no education, or any formal training, she and her children becomes liabiity to the society and simply adds to the burden of poverty inflicting the nation.
6. I agree that teenage pregnancy is not uncommon in the western world, but its mainly found among the low socio economic class and the truth remains they are a huge burden to both the health and social welfare system. There4 teenage pregnancy is something that should be discouraged globally and not encouraged.
7. Why should a teenager be idle? A teenager should be in school receiving education. Be it a rural or urban community, its the duty of the govt to ensure every child is in school learning and not roaming around the street. Every child should be entitled to at least 12 years of education. By the time she completes this, she should be 18 yrs and thus free to decide what to do with her life as an ADULT.
8. Culture is dynamic, its never static. That my grandfathers practiced it does not mean the trend should continue. If i consider the practice detrimental then i should stop it. I dont care the age Mary or Aisha were impregnated, maybe it was acceptable during their time but not anymore. In this modern era it has been established both scientifically and socially that a girlchild and marriage are diametrically opposite and ther4 irreconciliable.

9. I didn't bother to read ur definition of pedo.phile because i know it wont make sense but anyone who derive sexual pleasure from pain inflicted on an innocent child either inside marriage or illegally is not only a pedo.phile but also a beast and a sick social pervert.

deols: Why are you all talking of 30-40 year old men?? Are 30-40 year olds the only people who get married?

Maybe some are forced to get married and you have seen them but it would be a big LIE to continue to say that all of them are forced.

How are you sure Muslim girls wrote those books? Are you a learner? A grown man sits behind a computer, writing how he is Fatima and as well a Maryam suffering somewhere. Go to the Muslims section and check for a topic on hoaxes and fabrications. That will make you understand things better. It is all propaganda.

We cant be sure that anyone lived on your property but we can assume they did.. Such isolated cases should be reported to relevant authorities.

I am against premarital sex as well. But if teenagers MUST have sex, they should be married before it.

teenage premarital sex is a moral issue while early marriage is about social responsbility as a wife and her health to carry and nuture a child. The latter cannot be a panacea to the former.
The truth is this girls are married off without their consent and are left with little or no choice.
This girls may have start their monthly period but their body is still growing and thus is unprepared to carry a baby e.g their pelvis is too narrow to accomodate the passage of a child during delivery. Teenage pregnancy has a higher risk of premature delivery, stillbirth, difficult labour, obstructed labour and the dreaded VVF or RVF- passing urine or stool thru the vagina.
Most often, once they come down with VVF, they become social rejects and are sent away to VVF camps scattered all over major nothern cities, abandoned and forgotten by their husbands.
Even, if they are lucky to escape pregnancy related complication, they're still not immune. Sooner or latter, their husband will soon get tired of them and suerly will get rid of them(as these girls lack the mental capacity to engage in a matured relationship or communication with their husbands). Thus by age 20, most of them are victims of multiple divorces putting them at risk of cervical cancer(early marriage and multiple se.xual partners are risks).
Moerover, they are pulled out from school and their education terminated when they enter all these sham marriages. Thus they are deprived the opportunity to empower themselves and become somebody significant latter in life. These girls grow up to become social liabilities, they remain bound to poverty, and their only contribution to the community is continous breeding of almajiris and swelling the base of an overbloated poverty level in the country.
Finally, i know u're an intelligent and well educated muslim lady. Don't allow ur reasoning to be clouded by unfounded and biased sentiments. Poor judgment is a big disservice to humanity.
It's ur likes that can put an end to this nonsense called early marriage. They wont listen to us, because they consider us as outsiders but when u, an insider raise ur voice against this injustice, they will listen.
I admonish u to speak up for this less fortunate girls, they have a right to a fulfilled life just like u.
They should not be condemned to a life of fustration and poverty simply to satisfy the unusual apetite of a paedo.philic adult.
I'm so sure u wont suscribe to early marriage for ur teenage daughter even if she's misbehaving. U will rather adopt other disciplinary and orthodox methods to caution her.
The cycle of poverty can only be broken when u educate a girl child. Train a girl and u will build a nation.

Ayee Idris: Last I heard he was in Jail. Not sure But I am responding to the fact that Blacks would go after Zimmerman now that he is free. No one went after O.J when he was freed. It just makes us black people look bad, that we are murderous. Because things didn't go their way. Everyone is currently expecting a riot. Peaceful protest, why not? Riot or attack on Zimmerman? ridiculous. It should not be.

he's in jail because the white went after him. They set up thrumped up charges against him based on circumstantial evidence and unreliable witnesses and was sentenced to 150 yrs(or thereabout) in jail. He was chained and bound while the trial was ongoing. They wanted him in jail and ensured it.
SAME FOR KILLERMAN

Afam4eva: Can you tell us how it was twisted in this case? I don't know why people instead of using their heads result to eschewing emotions on issues.

a boy shot a dog that attacked him and was sentenced to 2 yrs despite insisting on stand ur ground.
A man saw someone wandering on his lawn in front of his house during the day, felt threatened and shot him. He said he stood his ground.
Another man shot a boy in a car because he felt threatened. He defended himself based on stand ur ground. His plea was ignored and was refused bail.
This law is anything but ridiculous and very subjective.
Stop defending a law u have no clue about.

Ayee Idris: I am very surprised at some of the comments being made here. Obviously many people did not follow the case and is basing it on racial sentiments. GZ was the neighborhood watchman. His neighborhood has been riddled with burglary. Two weeks before the incidence, two black teens were arrested. Its sad that no one really listened to the 911 call. If you had, you wont be saying all this(not the edited one by ABC that they withdrew and are currently being sued for). In the call, he reported that he has seen a boy on a hoodie acting suspiciously, stopping to check out houses (which is odd because it was raining). The 911 operator asked if the suspect was white, black or Hispanic. He said "he looks black". He was asked to stay there and he responded "This f******g punks always get away" Then he said "he is running" and the door was heard slamming. The 911 reporter asked if he was following him. He said yes. they said "we don't need you to do that" (that's not an order from the police. He has the right to follow. Its his job).
Wonderfully enough, Martin's wonderful girlfriend testified that Martin was already close to his father's fiancé house. why did he not go in? Why was he found almost 180 degrees away? and when he referred to Zimmerman (who is Hispanic,not white) as a "weird ass cracker", why is that not viewed as racist? The media only showed 12 year old pictures of him, not the 17 year man who looked thuggish with tattoos and gold teeth. They didn't allow evidence that Martin was currently in suspension from school for hitting a bus driver, that a few weeks before he was found with stolen jewelry. They disallowed the text from his cousin asking Martin to teach him how to fight. They failed to mention that the mother said in her initial interview that he was such a problem child that she had to send him to live with his father. All this was disallowed in court because he was a minor, which is understandable, but repressed by the media to what end? Because they wanted to portray the boy as an innocent kid and not a possible thug that he may or may not have been. Cos his record would show reasonable doubt.

Then the controversial 'help help' recording, which was taken by the neighbor who saw someone wearing red (Zimmerman) being beaten under and called 911. His testimony was never controverted or punctured in any way. GZ had even told the police that he had called for help before the existence of the tape was even known. Then Martin parents tried to claim that he was the one calling. Yet earlier Martin's father had told the police that it was not his son's voice. when he was cross-examined on that fact, he said that the police mis-interpreted him. You don't have to take my word for it. The whole trial is on Youtube for your viewing. the evidence are all online. Read them all and then decide, but not by listening to propaganda.

People saying that he chose to get out of his car. It was his job too. This is an Hispanic that has no racial prejudice history. For heaven's sake, the guy is brown. His papers identifies him as Hispanic since he was born. don't know when he became a white man. He was beaten up. His head has lacerations and his nose was swollen. Martin had no injury on him except d gun shot wound and a laceration to his knuckle. Self defence is not a crime. And hopefully will never be.

There was so many things wrong with the case. The police didn't see a crime and let him go until some people started a very false propaganda that I initially believed and supported to get him arrested. I was bitterly disappointed when the evidence started surfacing. Obama even had a federal team investigate Zimmerman for racial crimes and he was found not guilty. He did not just go and shoot a black kid walking. He shot a black man beating him up. How is he supposed to know if he was 17 or 18. Martin was way taller than him. There was no need to fight at all. If Zimmerman wanted to do James Bond, he wont bother calling 911. His acquittal is beyond right

u're dead wrong my friend.
As a vigilante, u 're not expected to accost suspects. If u notice suspicious movements u call the police and wait for them to arrive. Killerman violated that rule when he chose to follow the boy, despite being warned not to do so by the police.
Whatever he feels about poor police response is inconsequential, he's not a law enforcement officer but a civilian meant to obey rules. There are reasons we have laws, but the wannabe cops ignored established laws and consequently killed an unharmed 17 yr old boy.
Finally, killerman had police record of aggravated assault. He had attacked a police officer b4 and was subsequently arrested. His ex girlfriend also filed for restraining order against him cos of repeated beating from killerman.
Yet, his hx of aggravated and violent response to issues didn't surface in court because the judge said its irrelevant to the case at hand.