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Pat Utomi is speaking live on stv now.That guy is making a whole lot of sense.

olafolarin:
More like "Greatest of the Greatest Akokites".

UNILAG and LASU will be my choice anytime.
They both have state of the art equipments and are recognised worldwide.

I concur.Another school I can also recommend is U.I.They are also good there.OAU (from experience) and UNILORIN cannot be compared with UNILAG or UI in many good terms.

I don't think a protest that halted activities at the airports, courts, markets, etc and even aired by the international media (I watched it on CNN) can be called a failure, at least for that day.

DARA1234:
I totally support Ngozi Iweala, if we do not remove this subsidy we will EAT ALL OUR SEEDS WITH NOTHING TO PLANT.[/b] With the surrounding countries with no subsidy the subsidized oil will end up in neighbouring countries. We want to have good roads, housing, education and we do not want to pay for it, yet WE ARE READY TO RUN TO WESTERN COUNTRIES WHERE THESE THINGS ARE AVAILABLE AND WE PAY 22-45% AS TAX ON OUR EARNINGS.[/b]
 A good student denies pleasure, works hard to pass an exam and enjoy promotion.Let us save NIGERIA and REMOVE THIS SUBSIDY.[/b]
But Government must provide more cushioning effect by subsidising locally produced food crops, and other basics of life at least until we start refining and petrol prices starts falling.

I can't believe unreasonable people like this still exist in Nigeria.What a shame!

LagosShia:
it is time you start crying over your confused soul!

Salvation According to Jesus V/S Paul

Salvation
According to Jesus:  The rich young ruler asked Jesus how he could find salvation. Jesus answered, "Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments ,  If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me." (Matt 19:16-21, Mark 10:17-21, Luke 18:18-22, KJV) In other words, obey Torah, and follow Jesus' examples.

According to Paul:  “That if you confess with your mouth Jesus {as} Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you shall be saved; for with the heart man believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.” (Rom 10:9-10, NAS)

Which is it?  Obeying the commandments of G-d and following Jesus, or merely believing in Jesus’ resurrection and confessing him as Lord?  

see more here:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-836657.0.html#msg9875785

lagosshia, You find it hard to understand simple things.All I asked sweetnecta (and by extension you) to do is to show me from the quran what Islam has to offer me in this world and the next then let's compare it with what the Bible has to offer.That's all.Do you now understand?

LagosShia:
mumus of the ssame feather laugh together!

See what I mean .Anyone that has gone through this thread would easily depict the real MUMU.

@Bulldog.I have read all your posts and replies to lagosshia and sino.I can't help but salute.lagosshia keeps making me laugh with his posts

@Bulldog.I have read all your your posts and replies to lagosshia and sino.I can't help but salute.lagosshia keeps making me laugh with his posts

LagosShia:
Only Allah is your Wali and His Messenger and those who believe, those who keep up prayers and pay the poor-rate while they bow. And whoever takes Allah and His messenger and those who believe for a guardian, then surely the party of Allah are they that shall be triumphant. (5:55-56)

You will not find a people who believe in Allah and the Last Day having affection for those who oppose Allah and His Messenger, even if they were their fathers or their sons or their brothers or their kindred. Those - He has decreed within their hearts faith and supported them with spirit from Him. And We will admit them to gardens beneath which rivers flow, wherein they abide eternally. Allah is pleased with them, and they are pleased with Him - those are the party of Allah . Unquestionably, the party of Allah - they are the successful.(58:22)

He is indeed successful who causeth his self to grow, and he is indeed a failure who stunteth it (91 :
9-10).

Lo, good deeds annul ill deeds (11:114)

Then those whose scales are heavy, they are the successful.
And those whose scales are light are those who lose their self
(23 : 102-103).

lagosshia oooooo I couldn't help but laugh at this one .You messed up big time.Are these what you call promises of salvation?. Do you even know the meaning of that word?.Sincerely speaking my brother, only an illiterate would accept islam after reading those 'promises'  in your post.Read your post again and compare it with what you have in the New Testament.That would make you understand what salvation really means.Got it?

@lagosshia.You have not yet answered any of bulldog's questions.Pick them out and answer them one by one. We don't need lengthy irrelevances.Thanks  

Sweetnecta:
Is this boy Judek2 for real?

There is no statement of rejecting satan in any religion of the world , except in Islam that says "Satan is accursed", seeking refuge in God against satan; I seek refuge in God against satan the accursed.

There is no book of religion that has a chapter talking about light in terms of guidance away from darkness, except the Quran; Surah Nur [The Light]. Still many verse in other chapters expresses true guidance into faith from God is Light and it is superior over darkness [misguidance] so much so the darkness perishes.

Are you christians ok, because you blindly defend misguidance against Guidance? Fosbel, ol chap, are you ok?

Guy, you always make a fool of yourself with these your vague claims.The other time, you claimed that true salvation can only be found in the Quran.I challenged you to show me where the promise of salvation is in the Quran but you ran away and here you are again with other silly claims.I'll advice you to read and understand your Quran and Hadiths well and then compare them with the Bible and other books of history before you come online to post anything in this section.That would help you alot.Good luck.

Happy New Year to everyone.

cisse7575:
The condemnation of Islam just because of Boko Haram recent incidents is totally unfriendly erroneous and uncalled for. Where was it written in the Holy Qur'an to mercilessly kill innocent people in the worshiping houses where the heartless killers claimed it to be the 'way' of Allah? Like I said, ISLAM is a religion of PEACE and if by any chance something evil happen and the doers claimed to fight in the cause of Allah, then they are non believers. Both Koran and Prophet Mohammed Traditions do not permit mass killings.

I'm so sure, we will be all surprised when the wind blow and expose the anus of hens. The internals and externals sponsorers will surprise you. They are the people that condemn Boko Haram most.

Did you read your post through at all before clicking the reply button? What does boko haram claim they are fighting for? U are dumb man, even your grammer attests to that.

tomzman:
Lest I forget, Merry Christmas and a Happy New in advance Year to you, Plappville and other Christians on the thread.God bless you all. Chao

Happy New Year in advance rather.

godspeed:
BACK TO THE TOPIC OF THE THREAD-MORE EXAMPLES:

1.Circumcision
Acts 7:8
And he gave him the covenant of circumcision: and so Abraham begat Isaac, and circumcised him the eighth day; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat the twelve patriarchs.

John 7:22
Moses therefore gave unto you circumcision; (not because it is of Moses, but of the fathers and ye on the sabbath day circumcise a man.

Luke 2:21
And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called JESUS, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb.

FYI i'm circumsiced!


2.Hijab
Deuteronomy 22:5
The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.

1 Timothy 2:9
In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

1 Corinthians 11:5-6
But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.
For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.

how deut 22.5 approves of hijab is beyond me and yes women cover their heads in church at least in my church


Abstaining from prohibited foods
3.Dead meat
Leviticus 17:15
And every soul that eateth that which died of itself, or that which was torn with beasts, whether it be one of your own country, or a stranger, he shall both wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even: then shall he be clean.

Deuteronomy 14:21
Ye shall not eat of anything that dieth of itself: thou shalt give it unto the stranger that is in thy gates, that he may eat it; or thou mayest sell it unto an alien: for thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother's milk.


4.Blood
Genesis 9:4
But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.

Acts 15:29
That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.


we abstain from blood my brother


5.Pork
Leviticus 11:7-8
And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you.
Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcase shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you.

Deuteronomy 14:8
And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud, it is unclean unto you: ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcase.

Isaiah 65:2-5
I have spread out my hands all the day unto a rebellious people, which walketh in a way that was not good, after their own thoughts; A people that provoketh me to anger continually to my face; that sacrificeth in gardens, and burneth incense upon altars of brick; Which remain among the graves, and lodge in the monuments, which eat swine's flesh, and broth of abominable things is in their vessels; Which say, Stand by thyself, come not near to me; for I am holier than thou. These are a smoke in my nose, a fire that burneth all the day.

jesus clarfied this by saying not what goes in makes u unclean but what comes from inside

6.Food on which names beside Allah have been invoked
Acts 15:29
That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

Revelation 2:14
But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication.

bros xtians don't eat meat sacrified to idols.at least genuine xtians dont

Abi o.I have told him his problem and even tried to help him analyse himself in my last reply to him on page 7.All Plappville has posted here is also sufficient to convince even the best Islamist scholar that he is only deceiving himself.Well, you can keep on enlightening him and others like him on the thread but I don't think I have time to waste on a person who thinks he is wise in his own eyes and lacks a penchant for knowledge.I pray Jesus himself would touch his soul and others like him one day.


Lest I forget, Merry Christmas and a Happy New in advance Year to you, Plappville and other Christians on the thread.God bless you all. Chao 

@Lagoshia.I have gone through almost all of your posts on NL and I discovered that you SEEM intelligent but you lack understanding and a sense of correct reasoning and interpretation (no pun intended).

Let me help you.I would analyse and respond to your post in the simplest way possible.Note that the analysis and response are according to the order of bolding.

LagosShia:
you are blind mentally and physically!

do you mind that i started this thread? did you reply to the OP? so please apply your rule on yourself.you ignored this thread and came here to recommend books.[/b]i can also recommend books.[b]but i started by recommending what i have written in many threads including the OP of this thread.i have presented something by starting this thread.[/b]you came here to recommend books.[b]who cares about your recommended books? there is lot of christian trash on the web already.
the problem with you christians is blindness.[b]you suppose and draw conclusions without any basis.[/b]you fly in the winds and it moves you as it pleases!!!

1) That was uncalled for.

2) Firstly, you don't seem to understand my first post on this thread.That goes back to what I wrote at the beginning.
   Secondly, did I recommend the books to muslims on the thread alone? Think man!

3) Read your first post on this thread again and compare it with what you term my rule.Got something?

4) You have just proved right the point I made in the second part of my last post.It also shows there is a limit to the source of your conclusions.A very intelligent person neglects his prejudice and goes to every available source to gain knowledge.

5) If you check out the last book I recommended, you would notice (even from the title) that the book doesn't contain the thoughts of the author.It contains  a TESTIMONY of 20 PEOPLE WHO WERE FORMERLY LIKE YOU (muslims)

LagosShia:
you have too easily concluded that i have not read a line.[/b]you have also supposed that we dont read your stuff when this is more the case with christians than muslims.christians share lot of literature and [b]we read but they dont read ours.

in fact i go to anti-islamic sites to see the nonsense there.and i am also here to read your nonsense.so how do you then say i dont read?how do you think i reply in over 25 threads i created exposing the falsehood in christianity?

besides,most of the videos of sheikh Ahmad Deedat are debates with christian leaders and scholars.both sides make their arguments.and it is left for the audience to make their conclusions.

[b]you are telling me Sheikh Deedat's works are countered in those your "magical" books.you must be high.use your rule and present those "counters" here!.[/b]i have read many christian nonsense that tries to counter Sheikh Deedat's works,and they have failed woefully.those attempts should be given crowns of shame!

6) Have you?

7) Really? How many verses from your quran and hadith have I, Plappville, davidylan and others presented to you and others like you? and how did I even get to know sheikh Deedat if I (or we) don't read your stuff.You are really funny 

8] Sorry, I would rather show a person the way to the river I got my fish rather than giving him my own.



_{Jesus Loves You}

LagosShia:
i directed you to my own works.not to a writer's.i can also recommend you read the books of Sheikh Ahmad Deedat and watch his videos on youtube.

and my advice to you is :stop hallucinating!!!its not goo for your health!!!!

See where you are wrong.In a debate, discussion or argument, you don't direct people to your own works or thoughts and expect them to agree with you.You present your case and provide references or examples from other sources (other than yours) for confirmation.Maybe you should go through my reply to sweetnecta.Got it?


At least, I have gone through the thread you recommended.Have you gone through a line in any of the books I mentioned? See, that is the problem with you guys.Any book or write up that doesn't support your belief you don't read but you can recommend books or works that oppose other people's beliefs to them and expect them to read.For your information, some of Sheikh Ahmad Deedat's works are countered in the books I mentioned.Go read them up and find out more for yourself.  Chao 

LagosShia:
keep laughing at your religion here:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-739943.0.html

Is this the best you've got, directing me to a thread you yourself created?.Well, I have gone through that thread but unfortunately, all I could laugh at in that thread was your ignorance and lack of understanding.

I also challenge you to go read the books I earlier mentioned.You should also read the testimonies of your former muslim colleagues on how they encountered Jesus.(How we found Jesus.20 ex-muslims testify).The book is from the stable of the same person I mentioned in my first post.God Bless You. 

_{Jesus Loves You}

bashy_demy:
Sorry I dont need your Jesus chrsit, I have God the creator of everything including your Jesus.

Don't worry, a day will come that you will need him.I just pray that by then, it would not be too late.

Sweetnecta:
Tomzman needs to let us now which one of the gods he is seeking his rewards for plappsville and davidylan; the father, the son or the holy ghost?

if he says there is only One God, he has defeated trinity all by himself.

if he announces the specific God from the 3, the other 2 are accepted by him as fakes.

if he says all of them, then there you have it, his religion is a brother in belief of God as hindu does.

Answering your question implies explaining the concept of Trinity to you.That is like trying to explain algebra to a 1 year old.You and I know that is a sheer waste of time.

Sweetnecta:
while tomzman is recommending us to a book favored by his mind, i will recommend the practices of Jesus in worship to him; if you are a true believer of Jesus, wash yourself up by cleaning your outside with internal intention to worship God Almighty. then stand firm on that, then bow yourself, and prostrate your face with those who do these.then follow the unlettered messenger [as] as Jesus [as] proclaimed him to comfort you; making you closest to your Creator without an intercessor,knowing fully well by it that your obedience to God in monotheism of Islam is your true SALVATION; Only GOD can save you from all your worries, here, in the grave and on the Day of Judgment.

First of all, I didn't 'recommend you to a book' I recommended two books to you.

Secondly,do you guys ever sit down to reason?, do you really know the meaning of SALVATION at all? where is the promise of salvation in the quran, surah 5:122, 7:8, 42:17, 14:27, 57:25 or surah 26:69 abi?

Thirdly, the 'unlettered messenger' himself wasn't even sure of his own fate talkless of that of his followers (surah 46:9).Read your hadith well for a confirmation of that verse.He even had to swear by things lesser than Allah himself to make people believe him(surah 90,and 91).You can also read and MEDITATE on surah 69:42, 44:1, 53:1-5, 68:1.

Finally, I challenge you to go and read the books I mentioned in my first post and the surahs I mentioned here then come and post what you discovered.Until then, any other question you and your likes direct to me would not be answered.God Bless You.



_{Jesus Loves You}

[font=Lucida Sans Unicode]Hello everyone 

First of all would like to commend plappville and davidylan for your enlightening posts.May God Almighty continue to increase you in all areas of your lives.

@lagoshia, bashy and vedaxcool.You guys keep on amusing me with your posts.

Finally, I would like to recommend these two life changing books by G.J.O Moshay to EVERYONE(BOTH CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS) on this thread.The books are:
1) Anatomy of the Quran.
2) My Reply:A conversation with an Islamist  Scholar.

  God bless you all.


Do not be deceived without Christ, you DIE (eternal destruction).Accept him today and be saved.

Wish them a happy married life.

Sure win for gunners 8-)

Any link to watch the match

nethacker:
The school is a private institution and has the rights to admit whosoever. i'm sick and tired of people shouting racism bla bla or tribal/religious/ethnic differences. can any1 explain why banks don't employ people with long,crystal-clear tribal marks? Religious extremism should not be condoned and the best way to stop it is never to let it happen.Once you give it a chance to come to life, then you will pay with your life to end it. Why can't he go to an islamic institution

abi o aren't there islamic institutions he can go to, wat about the one founded by 'their' IMA.

reloboy:
Being a Muslim doesnt mean you should isolate yourself from christain infact we believe Jesus exist but he is not the lord. A muslim should associate with everyone in other to show them that Allah is the creator and islam is a religion of peace.
[B]SIGNED[/B] RELOBOY

Good sermon. Go preach this to your boko haram boys.