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TravelRe: Your Experiences With Eating And Your Funny Stories Of Your Trips by Tonim(f): 1:26pm On May 03, 2008
[quote author=his_grace link=topic=131279.msg2218627#msg2218627 date=1209817424]Which kain stupid question be this one - if the thing be like say na u I dey talk to - then good for u.[/quote]It's not a stupid question. I would think you were addressing someone specifically, not the entire members of the
thread. That was my question.
TravelRe: Your Experiences With Eating And Your Funny Stories Of Your Trips by Tonim(f): 1:21pm On May 03, 2008
[quote author=his_grace link=topic=131279.msg2218604#msg2218604 date=1209817007]story story - talk about your bad experience in Nigeria - talk about drinking water and having running belle - stupid - which time you comot from the Nigeria self - only last year? No be the same water wey them born u with and take raise you be that -? You come travel go abroad come no fit even chop for the same plate wey only one year ago - na there you dey chop? Who tell you say people no dey get food poison for abroad?

The thing wey dey baffle me be this one - wey - people go they go Africa/Nigeria - them go they shout say them no one go o because of mosquito - because mosquito go give them malaria - i say shut up there - if you travel go Europe and no prepare well - you no know say you go catch the flu as well? So if flu na disease and if malaria na disease - so which one be say u no one go Nigeria because you go catch disease of malaria? The flu wey u dey catch and people dey catch there daily nko?

Una mouth wey be like una anus -[/quote]Who exactly are you talking to ?
TravelRe: Your Experiences With Eating And Your Funny Stories Of Your Trips by Tonim(f): 12:58pm On May 03, 2008
lucabrasi:
u need special password to get the original and authentic aya mase stew,in lagos ill recommend lagos country club in g.r.a if your not a member,get a member to sign u in and try their aya mase and ofada rice, i ll give u your money back personally if you're not satisfied
lucabrasi, ol' boy, you have gone far with food and places.

When next are you going to Nigeria ?

because, your own knowledge of the joints is extra ordinary grin
PoliticsRe: Yar’adua Approves Higher Electricity Tariff by Tonim(f): 12:32pm On May 03, 2008
Sky Blue:
@cola, to be honest at this point i am just glad to know that Yaradua is not a corpse and can instigate his own ideas. However this whole thing is based on the assumption that NEPA is not corrupt and all the money people pay in bills actually goes to NEPA. Now this is simply not true! Does NEPA read your
meter before they charge you? Because a lot of the times they don't read meters and the people writing up the bill write it up when they get to your house and the bills are actually inflated. Then part of the money is simply split by some officials and there have been very wide spread reports about this going on. This is just a segment that capsulates yet another corrupt Nigerian agency so will increasing the bill change this significantly? |


Privatisation is needed in the power sector because then when people vote with their feet due to competition then power providers would have to improve the quality of their services. NEPA has fought so doggedly against privatisation because they know the implications of it and there will be no more avenue for looting.
Excellent points sky blue ! I was just going to write a response similar to yours when I stumbled on your post.

You see, the subsidies by the govt can never work because of corruption. Officials are just going to share the money as sky blue has
rightly stated.

We have to privatize the power sector; govt should not be involved with determining how much consumers should pay for
electricity. It is a daunting task (privatizing), but it is necessary to attain an efficient, well functioning power sector.

Sky Blue:

I really do believe one way to go is for the government to provide some of the infrastructure for power supply and sell it off to competent companies
You have said it all ! It is as simple as that !!!!

OBJ's economic team had a blueprint to this effect, but it appears Yar'Adua is abandoning it with his so-called power task force
being the stumbling block.
TravelRe: Pictures of Lagos Skyline (City-Scape) by Tonim(f): 11:26pm On May 02, 2008
That's a really nice picture above.
CelebritiesRe: Mariah Carey Weds Nick Cannon In Bahamas by Tonim(f): 6:51pm On May 02, 2008
If it's true, I hope she made him sign a prenup. tongue
CelebritiesRe: Mariah Carey Weds Nick Cannon In Bahamas by Tonim(f): 6:49pm On May 02, 2008
Well, the associated press seems to confirm it.


Reports: Mariah Carey marries actor Nick Cannon

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h3hJJ1dxxb_MxkBiX0ztpsKHY75gD90DJDH06

By NEKESA MUMBI MOODY – 2 hours ago

NEW YORK (AP) — Nick Cannon is cast as Mariah Carey's lover in her new video — but has the superstar diva given the young actor a considerably bigger role in real life? According to several published reports, Carey, 38, married Cannon, 27, on Wednesday. Neither Carey's publicist nor Cannon's manager returned requests from The Associated Press for comment.

If the pair did indeed wed, it would be a whirlwind romance. Word that the two were seeing each other first surfaced in the last few weeks. Last Saturday, Carey was seen sporting a huge diamond ring on her finger at the Tribeca Film Festival premiere of her movie, "Tennessee," in which she plays a waitress. Cannon was at her side at the party. Speculation swirled that the couple were engaged.

Latina.com was first to report that the two got married, at Carey's home in the Bahamas. Friday's New York Post also has the pair wed and E! Online quoted a relative of Cannon's as saying that he called his family and confirmed the news.

"He called us and told us all about it. We are happy for him. If that is what he wants then we are happy for him," Linda Cannon, identified simply as a family member, was quoted telling E!

Cannon has put out a rap album, but is best known for his role in the movie "Drumline" and a Nickelodeon TV series (yes, Nickelodeon — Cannon is 11 years Carey's junior). He's featured in Carey's upcoming video for "Bye Bye."

While Carey and Cannon (or is it the Cannons?) were playing coy, the famed jeweler Jacob & Co. was quick to publicize its apparent role in the reputed union with a press release touting the ring Cannon reportedly gave her.

The release described it as "crafted from platinum and features a square emerald cut fancy light pink diamond as the center stone surrounded by 58 intense pink diamonds and two half moon diamonds on each side.

"The total carat weight of the ring — center stone is 10 carats — is a jaw-dropping 17 carats with a value of $2.5 million."

Cannon does have experience with engagement rings. The actor, who has previously romanced singer Christina Milian and voluptuous reality star Kim Kardashian, last year gave a 15-carat stone to Victoria's Secret model Selita Ebanks as he proposed in grand fashion — on the Jumbotron in New York's Times Square. Cameras were flashing as she said yes. They split just a few months later.

The Carey-Cannon match is already getting considerably more ink, leaving some to wonder whether it's a publicity stunt: After all, she's just released a No. 1 album ("EMC2" is on the top of the charts), and he has at least four movies due out this year.

But then again, Carey is one of the most successful artists in music, and hardly needs a marriage to get her attention: She's already scored a No. 1 hit off the album with "Touch My Body."

This would be Cannon's first marriage but Carey's second. She famously wed top music executive Tommy Mottola in an extravagant wedding in 1993. They had a bitter divorce in 1998.
HealthRe: Many People Are Suffering In Silence. It's Called Depression! Lets Talk About It by Tonim(f): 5:02pm On May 02, 2008
This is a very good thread. A lot of people are clinically depressed but are not aware of it because they have not been
diagnosed or are not even aware depression even exists.

Many people believe depression is a mere fluke one can get over easily by oneself, which isn't true.
RomanceRe: My Precious American Life In Florida by Tonim(f): 3:02am On May 02, 2008
ikamefa:
what is your phobia about black women? tongue
Actually, the question should be what is his phobia about Nigerian women.

@LAKANYE

I think you despised Nigerian women (for whatever reason), so when you got to the states, you were willing to
settle for any woman as long as she wasn't Nigerian.

I don't think you really knew for certain what you were looking for in a woman when you hooked up with the
mothers of your two daughters, the bottom line for you then is that they weren't Nigerian.

Perhaps the need for legal permit/green card played a role in your association with these women.

Now, you seem to realize those non-Nigerian women are no better after all. So, you are giving
your earlier stand on Nigerian women a second thought.

The real question is, what is it about Nigerian women that you despised in the first place ? This, to me, is
part of the root of your problem.
FashionRe: OPINIONS PLEASE!!! Who Is Hotter? by Tonim(f): 2:44am On May 02, 2008
The hottest lady is # 2 from the left. # 6 is hot too.

Nice picture kiss
PoliticsRe: Yar’adua Approves Higher Electricity Tariff by Tonim(f): 7:43pm On May 01, 2008
The govt shouldn't even be involved with electricity tariff. That should be left to the private sector ( generating/distributing firms).

If the govt fixed the tariff in the telecoms sector, we wouldn't see the tremendous success attained there.

Until we embrace complete privatization of the power sector, I'm afraid we will never attain the goal of sufficient power supply
in Nigeria.
PoliticsRe: Yar’adua Approves Higher Electricity Tariff by Tonim(f): 4:57pm On May 01, 2008
Kobojunkie:
By Ihuoma Chiedozie, Abuja
Published: Thursday, 1 May 2008



President Umaru Yar’Adua on Wednesday approved a new tariff for electricity consumption in the country.



The implementation of the new tariff, under a Multi-Year-Tariff Order, will commence on July 1, 2008.

However, the Federal Government will pay the difference between the new tariff and the current one for the next three years on behalf of consumers.

The government will establish an MYTO Support Fund in which the difference (subsidy) in the new cost and the current one will be paid into from July 2008 to July 2011.

The Federal Executive Council has already okayed N64.84bn as subsidy for electricity consumption for 2008/2009.

It is expected that the government will provide an additional N77.41bn and N35.80bn as subsidies for 2009/2010 and 2010/2011 respectively.
Who are the people advising Yar'Adua for goodness sake ? Now, the federal govt has to help subsidize electricity for consumers ?

Have Nigerians ever complained of not being able to pay their electric bills ?

This step by Yar'Adua has just set us back in our drive towards privatizing the power sector. Really pitiful undecided
PoliticsRe: El-rufai Cleared Trees, Grasses With N2.16bn by Tonim(f): 11:45pm On Apr 30, 2008
Meanwhile does anyone know what is happening with the FOI Bill. Why has it not been passed.
Here is an update on the FOI Bill from Sun news online


Again, Reps shun Freedom of Information Bill
By JAMES OJO, Abuja
Wednesday, April 30, 2008

With anger boldly written on their faces, members of the House of Representatives on Tuesday again declined to consider the report on Bill for an Act to make public records and information freely available for public access, otherwise known as Freedom of Information Bill (FOIB).

This would be the fifth time the House would refuse to debate the report that would pave way for the passage of the bill after former president, Olusegun Obasanjo withheld his assent to the one that earlier passed by the National Assembly.

The report on the bill was listed on the Order Paper and the sponsor, Hon Abike Dabiri-Erewa, was ready to lead the debate, but the chairman of the Committee of the Whole House, had to take his chair.

Deputy Speaker, Bayero Nafada, who presided over the plenary, called for voting for the House to depose to the Committee of the Whole House, but members shouted “No” and the motion for adjournment was moved by the House Leader, Tunde Akogun, which was seconded.
Explaining the decision of the House, Chairman, Rules and Business, Solomon Ita Enang said that it was not true that the House has killed the report by refusing to debate it. Although, he could not justify why members were reluctant to debate the bill that would help in the fight against corruption.

He said: “Why we kicked is that there is no time for thorough debate. The bill will still be listed Tuesday next week. If that does not work out, we will still consider other options within the week.”
The sponsor of the bill, Hon Dabiri-Erewa, disagreed with Ita’s position, saying that only members could explain why they were not ready to debate the report.
She said: “I don’t know why they have been avoiding the bill. I think it is deliberate. I don’t know the rationale behind not passing the bill.

“The bill has been listed four times. This is the fifth time. If we are sincere with the Freedom of Information Bill, I don’t know why we have not considered it by the committee of the whole.
“I don’t know how we will move forward without the bill. We can’t fight corruption without this bill in place. This is the truth.”

Hon Dabiri-Erewa said that it was a surprise that members said “No” to the debate of the report, adding that the current administration needs the bill in the crusade to entrench good governance.
The Rules and Business Committee had made a copy of the 21- page report available to all members before Tuesday’s sitting, while the House adopted a motion calling for speedy action on the rehabilitation of lepers in the country.

Members decried the way lepers roamed the streets begging for alms.
The Ministry of Health was directed to rehabilitate leprosy centres to accommodate more lepers, as well as procure more vaccines for the treatment of the disease.


http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/features/newsonthehour/2008/apr/30/newsbreak-30-04-2008-001.htm
PoliticsRe: Let Nigerian's Prepare For War! by Tonim(f): 11:26pm On Apr 30, 2008
ono:
And what's wrong with the word ''war''? We've fought one in the past. It was nasty. It didn't achieve it's set objective. We can fight another one now, and right the wrongs of the last time. What do you think?
and who will be the opposing sides of the war ? one tribe against the other or what ?
RomanceRe: Would You Marry A Guy Who Hits You ? by Tonim(f): 11:58pm On Apr 29, 2008
Cadet:
Don't worry, when he slaps you back eh, you'll think thunder stroked you
Like tyrese did in that movie "baby boy" tongue
TravelRe: Best Airports You Have Been To? by Tonim(f): 6:47pm On Apr 29, 2008
Tats:
I had a connection through Detroit while flying from Chicago to DC. Well, one thing I seem to remember noticing about Detroit Airport was that it had a train service that ran right inside the terminal (at a height). Also, there was some sort of fountain. I didn't have a bad impression of the airport though. Also,
Natwest had a huge presence there.
Yes, I believe Natwest has/had a hub in Detroit. Well, I thought the airport was nice; it was relatively new compared to others
(in the US.)
TravelRe: Best Airports You Have Been To? by Tonim(f): 6:27pm On Apr 29, 2008
tRoOE:
Yes oh Zurich Airport was lovely, damn I didn't even want to board the plan sef until my mom gave me that even look, like oya time to go cheesy cheesy
Well Swissair does not run to Naija anymore, since they went bankrupt.
Their food was so cheap at the airport, friendly people and environment. I enjoyed my stayed for the little hrs I was there

Amsterdam Schiphol Airport have nice chairs though, I slept on it when I was stranded for 4days angry
Girl thanks so much. You are right, swissair did go bankrupt. wink

ATL too is good
The problem with ATL's airport is its size; you have to give yourself a lot of time if you are taking a connecting flight.
Detroit airport is more modern than ATL; even BWI (baltimore) has a more beautiful terminal than ATL.

Miami International Airport
Miami airport ? OMG That airport is old !

I think abuja airport should be better than Miami airport 'cause it really aintt all thatt.
PoliticsRe: Nadeco Chieftain Adesanya Is Dead by Tonim(f): 3:25pm On Apr 29, 2008
nuzo:
This is Nigeria and we all know how the state is ran, we know whats going on; lots of drama.
Don't be deceived by the court stuff.
Nuzo, this is your opinion. You are just speculating.


nuzo:
If its has been working, i bet most of the crooks could have been convicted by now. Whether the FG chose some people like Kalu to act out the script and left out Tinubu and IBB to watch, it's still the same. They are all free men for now. They will never be sentenced in this administration.
Again, they are not free men. Someone free on bail is not free. As to whether this administration will see to it that they get sentenced, we just have to
wait and see. Again, All you are doing at this point is speculating.

nuzo:
Find out from the EFCC privately since they have refused to make it public or persuade Fashola to make the events of the past administration public. But i bet you will be disappointed because the FG, AGF, EFCC and Fashola will not reveal anything to you in the next 4 to 8 years.
The burden of proof lies with you. You call Tinubu a crook, I asked you for proof, you have none whatsoever. The EFCC does not need Fashola to
prosecute Tinubu if they have anything on him. They did not need any of the incumbent governor's help to file charges against the former governors.

- Uduaghan did not help the EFCC in bringing charges against Ibori
- Theodore Orji did not help the EFCC in bringing charges against Kalu
- Sullivan Chime did not help the EFCC in bringing charges against Chimaroke
- Segun Oni did not help the EFCC in bringing charges against Ayo Fayose

So, what the heckk does Fashola have to do with the EFCC bringing charges to Tinubu if is a crook as you are saying ?

Rather than back up your claim that Tinubu is corrupt, all you are doing is making noise summing up to nothing.

nuzo:

You should have asked yourself why the EFCC keeps filing fresh charges on these guys everyday
. Its as a result of inconclusive investigation meared by their surrogates. More revelatins everyday after some state government officials are force to visit the EFCC.
The bottom line is that the EFCC is filing charges against them. That's all that really matters.

nuzo:
[b]I'm aware that Ibori is on trial today (though a drama) because of the public outcry for his notoriety in and outside Nigeria, not because he looted more than OBJ and IBB [/b]or because he was so dumb to steal from the state coffers directly like Yerima of Zamfara.
The bottom line is that he is on trial. So, lets wait and see how things turn out out at his trial.

nuzo:
Soon you will tell me to prove how he influenced the appointment of Okiro and removal of Ribadu as EFCC boss right from prison. How he holds secret meeting with Yaradua every now and then, how he uses the AGF to dictate how the law should be interpreted.
Nuzo, could you please furnish me with your evidence that Tinubu is corrupt and quit beating about the bush ? Thank you.

nuzo:
Yes god madam, i just realized that this is Nigeria where people can even go to the extent of killing somebody if he tries to reveal some truth.
Danm it. . . . . .this freedom of speech has escaped again. I will be back when i find her. grin
Darling!!! where you run go? Come back because i will be killed or sent to jail if these gods find out that you don't really exist in Nigeria. cry
I don't even know how to respond to this. Please stick to the issue, no need to trivialize this. Thanks.
PoliticsRe: Nadeco Chieftain Adesanya Is Dead by Tonim(f): 9:08am On Apr 29, 2008
nuzo:
As far the Nigerian government of the day is concerned, Kalu is a free man.
He is a free man indeed. A man has been charged to court for corruption, was held for a long while by the
EFCC until he was granted bail by a judge, and recently went to court pleading for a judge to release
his passport so he can travel abroad, yet you say he is a free man. undecided


nuzo:
I now can see that you are either misinformed or sentimental about Tinubu's shortcomings.
Up till now, you are yet to state any of these shortcomings. You can't back your claims with facts.

nuzo:
How many of these surrogates have made open how their states were ran by their predecesors? How many of them have revealed how much their state is indebted to? Except for Osumbor who fell out with his oga; Igbenedion.
I have asked you this same question several times and you keep evading it - former governors chimaroke, kalu, ibori and a host
of others left surrogates behind, yet, the EFCC was able to charge them to court.

If the EFCC really needed the help of incumbent "surrogate" governors as you are claiming, how was it able to file charges against ibori,
kalu, saminu turaki, chimaroke and others ?



nuzo:
The EFCC is as weak as my grandpas in the grave and the court drama is to keep the polity look like Yaradua is working.
Ever wondered why the likes of corrupt and convicted[b] Ibori was and is still having more say in Aso rock[/b] than your so called saint Tinubu.
Are you ignorant of the fact that Ibori too is under trial for corruption ? What is this say in Aso rock that you are talking about ?

If you have any evidence of Tinubu being corrupt, please state it or forever hold your piece. Stop making unsubstantiated claims.
PoliticsRe: Nadeco Chieftain Adesanya Is Dead by Tonim(f): 7:13am On Apr 29, 2008
nuzo:
The feud between Orji Kalu and OBJ was even more intense than that of Tinubu. Was it not the same Kalu and his mum that looted Abia dry? Is Kalu not a free man today?
Who told you Kalu is a free man today ? Kalu is facing trial for corruption and is on bail pending his day in court. The man was just in court the
other day pleading for a judge to release his passport so he can travel abroad. Please get your story straight.


nuzo:
Ofcourse having your surrogate replace you in office makes any form of investigation difficult for the security agents.
We also know that Yaradua is not ready to probe ex-governors or fight corruption.

Just like Chimaroke worked for Enugu, Tinubu worked for Lagos, but it will be so laughable to defend Tinubu when it comes to corruption.
Again, Kalu, Ibori, Chimaroke and a host of others left surrogates in office and it has not stopped the EFCC from pursuing them. They are
all facing trial for corruption. The fact that they left their boys as governors has not impeded the EFCC's effort to charge them to
court.

Again, the EFCC didn't go after Tinubu because they have absolutely nothing on him.
PoliticsRe: Nadeco Chieftain Adesanya Is Dead by Tonim(f): 8:52pm On Apr 28, 2008
nuzo:
EFCC and ICPC have some reports about him on corrupt practices and investigations are still going on
I'm not sure if you keep up with Nigerian politics, because if you knew the kind of feud that went on between OBJ and Tinubu, you'll
know that the EFCC would have gone after him the minute he stepped out of office from alausa if indeed they had anything on
him.


nuzo:
even though it is quiet difficult as his boy Fashola is in Alausa.
Why wasn't it difficult for the EFCC to go after the other governors that left their "boys" behind as governors, but now it's
difficult to go after Tinubu undecided

The EFCC and ICPC don't have anything on him ! All that nonsense you heard was OBJ and his cohorts using them
to yarn rubbish.
CultureRe: Why Do Nja Men Take Foreign Guest (lady) To A Hotel by Tonim(f): 8:07pm On Apr 28, 2008
Blatant:
Damawetin,


BTW, what's Nigerians flying BA got to do with your inability to find a man among your own people?
Chei ! 'ol boy, you really sticked it to her grin grin

why do I have this feeling damawetin ( grin) and her "friend" have the same name and exact dna ?
PoliticsRe: Nadeco Chieftain Adesanya Is Dead by Tonim(f): 7:49pm On Apr 28, 2008
Mind giving us examples of the western democracies with such demi gods, or do you mean iraq and iran?

Are you serious about Tinubu? I'm beginning to feel that you are denying the likes of Adedibu and George their hard earned privilege because they control more Yoruba people than Tinubu. They are also not more or less corrupt than Tinubu.
Could you please substantiate your claim ? What evidence do you have that Tinubu is corrupt ?

No one should dare put adedibu and george in the same league as tinubu, abeg.
TravelRe: Best Airports You Have Been To? by Tonim(f): 7:37pm On Apr 28, 2008
@TroOe & Toyosi20

So this zurich airport is that fine eh ? may be i'll take swissair once to check
it out. Those se asian countries have really nice airports to my understanding.
PoliticsRe: Nadeco Chieftain Adesanya Is Dead by Tonim(f): 7:11pm On Apr 28, 2008
@TopBooty
Tinubu upright?
Please get real
What is wrong with Tinubu ? He did a lot for Lagos and would've done better but for OBJ playing PDP politics.

If Tinubu was really corrupt as alleged by some, he would've been the first to be arrested by the EFCC right after

May 29th, 2007.

@OP

May his soul rest in peace.
TravelRe: Is There Any Good Thing About Nigeria? by Tonim(f): 5:51pm On Apr 28, 2008
PrincessMo:
I think that one good thing about Nigeria is food!! MY GOODNESS. . .
No other food ever tasted betta!! LAWD LAWD!!!
Amen to that !
PoliticsRe: The Independent: 'a World Of Casual Racism Exposed In Ba' by Tonim(f): 5:41pm On Apr 28, 2008
lol. I really don't know why kobojunkie goes to any length to stick up for the west and all things white.
PoliticsRe: Kwara Imports 800 Cows From SA. by Tonim(f): 8:26pm On Apr 27, 2008
Yes.
PoliticsRe: Kwara Imports 800 Cows From SA. by Tonim(f): 8:16pm On Apr 27, 2008
Kobojunkie:
Glad you added that cause I went searching for more information on this and how the Kwara state government is now involved in diary farming.

Question though, why in the world is this being announced by the commissioner and not the farm personnel if this is actually a private deal?? I mean how did the government get into this one??

Considering the money came from the bank and not the government and it is really privately owned. I want to understand how deep the government's hands go when it comes to private companies in that country.
Because the govt wants to take credit for it. You know the Kwara state govt was the one that lured the farmers to Nigeria in the first place.

It's all politics my brother. God bless Nigeria grin
FamilyRe: Is It Necessary To Spank Children? by Tonim(f): 7:56pm On Apr 27, 2008
Cadet:
Omo, It sickens me too!
My dear, it is completely nuts !


bawomolo:
chalk it up to bad parenting, and how are u sure the kid hasn't being spanked, given lots of black kids in the US are spanked 2. the problem is beyond spanking.
It's not bad parenting abeg, it's the society that keeps you from disciplining your child and like I said earlier, imbibes disrespecting your elders.


@OP

I just want to state for the record that I do not support spanking children - at least for the most part.
FamilyRe: Is It Necessary To Spank Children? by Tonim(f): 7:41pm On Apr 27, 2008
bawomolo:
i disagree, it's more of a cultural difference. they may call their parents by names(fine in their culture)
What cultural difference ? A culture that imbibes not respecting your elders ?

I went to this Caribbean place the other day to buy something, can you believe this girl told the woman

attending to us, adding "you need to shut up". This girl was about 15-17 years old and the lady had to be
in her 50s or 60s. How often do you see this in Nigeria ?


bawomolo:
but lots of americans do care about the welfare of their parents. there are out of line kids in nigeria too so it's funny how people chastize the west. don't' african americans spank their kids?
hehe, you really don't want us to go on about african american kids do you ?

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