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Science/TechnologyRe: Nigerian Builds Dredging Machine Out Of Scrap Metals And Car Spare Parts by tonychristopher: 1:51pm On May 14, 2015
Anybodie:
Mr. Chris cool down this is common sense
WHAT IS COMMON SENSICAL...IT'S THIS ATTITUDE OF YOUR PUT US IN THIS MESS ..IT'S ANNOYING ..CRITIQUES ALL TIME WITHOUT ANY HANDS ON EXPERIENCE

BIAFRAN BUILT MOBILE REFINARIES 40 YRS AGO INSTEAD OF SUPPORTING. THEM AFTER THE WAR THEY JETTISONED THEM ...TODAY 40YRS AFTER WE CANT REFINE COMMON OIL


BIAFRAN MEN BUILT GUIDED MISSILES AND BOMBS REST IS HISTORY TODAY WE CANT DEFEAT BOKO HARAM

AN IGBO INVENTED CHOLORA VACCINE THEY MESSED IT UP TODAY WE ARE BATTLING WITH CHOLERA


THE FIRST OPEN HEART SURGERY WAS IN UNTH IN 70S BUT INSTAED OF SUPPORTING THEM THEY WONT TODAY NIGERIANS ARE GOING TO INDIA FOR 5HAT


NOW THIS GUY BUILT THIS DREGGER YOU SIT BACK THERE AND TALK SHYT..AND YOU EXPECT ME TO SUPPORT U

I HATE BEEN A NIGERIAN...UN PLS SPEED UP THIS PROCESS


TOO MUCH PULL HIM DOWN IS HERE


DAMN
Science/TechnologyRe: Nigerian Builds Dredging Machine Out Of Scrap Metals And Car Spare Parts by tonychristopher: 1:26pm On May 14, 2015
Umennajiego:
I thought nairalanders used to laff over stuffs like; how much garri is sold, trends like here in France, my 2cents. but right now this tribal issue is really getting out of hand I don't get the hate.

Most yoloba pple here have igbo friends, most of my friends are Yoruba probably becos it a trending thing everybody is taking it for a joyride...lets all be careful and stop fanning the fire it will only grow wild!!!

IMO, the true spirit of biafra is lost I don't think the idea is genuine, if a referendum is done today am sure does in support of one nigeria will be like election result in kano!!!
WHO TOLD YOU THE SPIRIT IS LOST ..ARE YOU THE ONE THAT LOST BIAFRAN SPIRIT


CAN'T YOU SEE THE HIGH LEVEL OF IGBOPHOBIA ..HAVE YOU NOT HEARD TERMS LIKE IGBO MADE IGBO SENSE I NO GO RENT IGBO ...DIE IN LAGOON I HATE IBO..IBO ARE THIS AND THAT ...SO MANY TERMS




SO IGBOS ARE AWARE...IF IT'S WILL OF GOD THAT BIAFRA WILL BE ..IT WILL BE
CareerRe: HND Holders Have More Opportunities Than A B.sc 2.2. See Why.. by tonychristopher: 1:21pm On May 14, 2015
LIFE GAVE US ALL OPPORTUNITIES IF THEY CAN'T HIRE YOU....FOR CHRIST SAKE HIRE YOURSELF.

SELF EMPLOYEMENT IS BEST
Science/TechnologyRe: Nigerian Builds Dredging Machine Out Of Scrap Metals And Car Spare Parts by tonychristopher: 1:12pm On May 14, 2015
OK YOU WILL COME TEACH HIM, HOW CAN YOU TEACH HIM WITHOUT HANDS ON EXPERIENCE, OH YOU THINK THAT YOU JUST DABBLE INTO SOPHISTICATED PROCESSES WITHOUT KNOWING THE SIMPLE PROCESS


BUT WHY ARE YOU GUYS FROM YOUR SIDE ALWAYS CRITIQUING WITHOUT HAVING ANYTHING TO SHOW FOR IT..IF IT TAKE HIM A YEAR TO BUILD IT SO BE IT....DREGERS ARE NOT OFF THE SHELF PRODUCT, YOU ORDER AND SAY YOUR SPECIFICATION



MR GRAMMAR WEY NO PRODUCE NOTHING



DONT QUOTE ME, YOUR TYPE IS EVIL
Anybodie:
It took him six months to develop one, how long will it take to produce on a large scale
Or you think encouragement will teach him how to handle sophisticated high-level tools
Science/TechnologyRe: Nigerian Builds Dredging Machine Out Of Scrap Metals And Car Spare Parts by tonychristopher: 1:07pm On May 14, 2015
Anybodie:
It took him six months to develop one, how long will it take to produce on a large scale
Or you think encouragement will teach him how to handle sophisticated high-level tools
YOU SEE A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THE PEOPLE FROM THE OTHER. SIDE

PULLING PEOPLE DOWN ..JEALOUSY AND CRITICING OR CRITICALLY MINDED WITHOUT ANY TANGIBLE THING TO SHOW


YOU SEE WHAT I HAVE BEEN. SAYING

THEY CANT JUST HIDE THEIR BAD MIND


TERRIBLE PEOPLE
Science/TechnologyRe: Nigerian Builds Dredging Machine Out Of Scrap Metals And Car Spare Parts by tonychristopher: 1:04pm On May 14, 2015
bajeen:
A very good development. By the time we realise that we can never develop until we support and patronise our indigenous technology, we'll be counted amongst the developed nations. Kudos, once again.
They will call it igbo made to discredit or aba made ..it will be nice to go our separate ways so that it will be tagged

MADE IN BIAFRA
Science/TechnologyRe: Nigerian Builds Dredging Machine Out Of Scrap Metals And Car Spare Parts by tonychristopher: 12:59pm On May 14, 2015
dokyOloye:
I swear ooo,it was a shock to me during NYSC when d Yorubas will always complain anytime d Igbos win anything like cultural dance,etc.
Upon d fact that all d tribes in Nigeria were always represented in d voting,yet d Yorubas and d Yorubas only will always protest in anything d Igbos come first in.
I live in lagos served with yorubas and i know them ..so it aint new
Science/TechnologyRe: Nigerian Builds Dredging Machine Out Of Scrap Metals And Car Spare Parts by tonychristopher: 12:54pm On May 14, 2015
Anybodie:
Nice Job and welcome development, this man should be hired / Employed by the F.G into one of these Federal Tech Universities/Poly to show them the way and also in order develop the man intellectually
An average igbo doesn't need employement all he need is encouragement ...be can be a consultant not lecturing and striking every now and then
Science/TechnologyRe: Nigerian Builds Dredging Machine Out Of Scrap Metals And Car Spare Parts by tonychristopher: 12:52pm On May 14, 2015
I work in an organization anf I know that i will leave I learnt in life that degrees are paper what matters to me is experience

I will never hire based on degree or certified person at all.....

that is why proffersors in economics are not rich while little educated people are rich


I am done with my degree just gathering exp


American don't ask degree they ask what can u do
Built2last:
A young lad approached me a week ago while i was eating at a restaurant at Garki 2 Abuja and flipped open a catalogue of his products and i was amazed at the ingenuity of the Igbos. This country has raw untapped talents.

He manufactured an industrial yam pounding machine that gets over 20tubers of yam pounded in two minutes when cooked.

He detailed his processes in that catalogue and i asked him what he wanted from me.

He said he wanted link to NOTAP to be able to showcase his products so that the world can see what he is capable of.

i have made calls to arrange how we can see the NOTAP DG buit was told he is out of the country.

I saw myself buying him a good lunch, gave him some cash to encourage him.

I was much humbled when he told he finished from one polytechnic in Abia state.

I look myself with 3 degrees and couldnt place it.

i wonder the discrimination against polytechnic students and where we are headed as a country with that policy.

only technical education will build entrepreneurship not the B.sc and M.sc we flash arround with no technical skill
Science/TechnologyRe: Nigerian Builds Dredging Machine Out Of Scrap Metals And Car Spare Parts by tonychristopher: 12:24pm On May 14, 2015
tplacid:
Am a Yoruba boy and I always say this, the Igbos are gifted with technological prowess and they are very industrious too......this is just one example of so many where an Igbo man builds something from scratch. You can read up on another Igbo man Philip Emeagwali.(There won't be internet without him)

This doesn't mean Yorubas and Hausas don't have their strengths too but there is something VERY unique about the Igbos.

I imagine a Nigeria where there is absolute love among all the major tribes of this republic so we can be the envy of others.

God Bless the Igbos
God Bless the Hausas
God bless the Yorubas, Tivs,Kanuris, etc (please don't be offended if I didn't mention your tribe........lol)
God bless Nigeria and the whole world.
Taa you ain't Yoruba cos the average Yoruba will hate ...but if u r Yoruba then ur type is going extinct

Nice one
PoliticsRe: MASSOB Urges UN To Recognise State Of Biafra by tonychristopher: 12:05pm On May 14, 2015
bro that map need modification seriously...remove ughelli and sobo people there, include the igbo in edo states like IGBO AKIRI and igbo in Benue state then IJAW can be considered maybe a refrendum but itshekiri wont be there

what about igbo oversea territories like Opobo and Ubani (Bonny)


bigfrancis21:
Don't mind any typo errors in my post. I wrote that in a hurry. Only to zoom off back to cogent things I need to attend to.

Meanwhile, current map of Biafra which is grossly erroneous.

https://www.nigerianmuse.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Biafra_25_provinces.jpg
Science/TechnologyRe: See Two Men Fly Above Dubai by tonychristopher: 11:38am On May 14, 2015
it can also be commercially built..we need to nuke em, and it will be good to be used in transporting weed accroos states



just an igbo man business ideas


RobinHez:
if u read the post, i stated that it was custom built...
Car TalkRe: The Reason Why That Your Tokunbo Car Keeps Overheating Here In Nigeria by tonychristopher(op): 11:15am On May 14, 2015
bros dores it mean people dont tropicalise engines...dude it is done, ur lucky or were lucky.....my car doesnt have a thermo and it runs okay just a bit fuel consumption



but that is okay


it is an individual thing, if you want to leave thermostat fine, if your car is overheating and if u can leave thermostat ..fine, if you can yank it off..also fine


i am not deceiving people, all drivers aint no kids, so they can decide


Marpol:
My problem is that you are misleading people. I bought a 2003 Honda Accord V6 EX from Canada and the air-conditioner was the coldest I have ever experienced. It came with a single cell radiator, thermostat and the fans run intermittently. I used it for one year and sold it and the buyer is still using it.

Coming here to speak about tropicalizing a car sounds like all these full options things you hear from dealers.
Science/TechnologyRe: See Two Men Fly Above Dubai by tonychristopher: 11:12am On May 14, 2015
na so..but those can be bought via ebay


give me these things make i bomb these islamist to submission..i will nuke em


RobinHez:
hahahaha...u've watched too much of movies
Car TalkRe: The Reason Why That Your Tokunbo Car Keeps Overheating Here In Nigeria by tonychristopher(op): 10:55am On May 14, 2015
lomomike:
the thermostat has mechanical component. You re a Kazeem, a heavy one at that I am in following this thread.
bro to be honest, i dont know kazeem and i am not him.....

Iron is not a mechanical intrstrument but electrical


bro use VOXWAGEN as an example

Do that car even have thermostat and does it overheat
Science/TechnologyRe: See Two Men Fly Above Dubai by tonychristopher: 10:42am On May 14, 2015
This will be good for aerial bombing....i thing boko haram are done...just get night vision cameras,bullet proof vest and GPS system ISLAMIST and Militants are done


I need an order


RobinHez:
The future is unevenly distributed in favor of the United Arab Emirates. Recently, two men donned jetpacks and flew into the night air above Dubai. Yves “Jetman” Rossi previously flew over the Emirati desert in his custom-built wing with jets, but for this paired flight, he was joined by Vince Reffet, a skydiver who once base jumped off the Burj Khalifa. According to a statement accompanying a video release of the flight, the pair fly over the “Burj Khalifa, The Palm Jumeirah, and the Liwa desert.” Their flight together was teased at the end of Jetman’s last video.




video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Czy0pXRRZcs
cc: lalasticlala
Car TalkRe: The Reason Why That Your Tokunbo Car Keeps Overheating Here In Nigeria by tonychristopher(op): 10:36am On May 14, 2015
pressing iron is not a mechanical equipment and doesnt have fan or radiator


oh why the comparison...oh you should have used voxwagen bettle instead....
Specialist900:
nice point on the pressing iron
CrimeRe: Policeman Kills girlfriend For Sleeping With His best Friend by tonychristopher: 10:33am On May 14, 2015
BUT WHY....I HATE GIRLS THAT CHEAT...EVEN ABBOOKKI GIRL SEFF DEY CHEAT I THINK SAY NA ONLY LAGOS GIRLS

POLICE MUST HAVE INVESTED HEAVILY IN HER ESPECIALLY EMOTIONALLY, SEXUALLY AND ABOVE ALL FINACIALLY AND PSYCHOLOGICALLY
RomanceRe: 5 Things Nigerian Men Find Unattractive In Women by tonychristopher(op): 10:30am On May 14, 2015
THE LOWER REGION CAN BE MADE TO BE DREAD LOCKED AND IT DOESNT SMELL DUE TO THE SINGULAR FACT THAT PLACE AINT SWAMPY AND CAN BE FORGIVEN BUT WOMEN LOWER REGION SEEMS TO BE SWAMPY AND MARSHY AND CANT BE FORGIVEN CONSIDERING HOW MARSHLAND SMELLS BUT SOME MEN CAN BE DIRTY...SOME HAVE FORGOTTEN HOW IMPORTANT A ROLL ON IS


BUT CAN YOU IMAGINE YESTERDAY, I WALKED SOME LADIES OUT OF MY CAR ...THEY WERE SO NASTY AND THE MANNER THEY TALK WAS TERRIBLE ABOVE ALL THEY SMELL HEAT..WE ALL SWEAT BUT ROLL ON HAS A WAY OF COVERING THAT HEAT SMELL AFTER THE DAYS WORK


I PULLED OVER WALKED THEM OUT, NOT BECAUSE OF THE SMELL BUT BECAUSE OF THEIR RAZZ TENDENCY AND TALKING WAYS




peppyluv02:
Nice piece..
Men nko? Especially those ones whose armpit hair can be used as weapon..... undecided
Let me not imagine the 'lower region'?...their body odour is permanent grin
FamilyRe: Is It Proper For A Woman (the Wife, Daughters) To Wash The Car At Home? by tonychristopher: 10:23am On May 14, 2015
I THINK ITS NOT WOMANLY, BUT IF IT IS HER CAR SHE WASH IT
CultureThe African Woman Culture Of Imitation by tonychristopher(op): 10:22am On May 14, 2015
African women are the most inferior of all races especially the Nigerian girls, this is not a male chauvinism thing..it is a fact and it is glaring, God has given African women the best from the rest but they ended up having inferiority complex and fish brain..the African woman is endowed but she refuses to see this and as a man when I see these fake women especially here in lagos it can be nauseating and petrifying
Hair, naturally African women have a good hair texture though not long but it is malleable allow me to use that word, it can be retouched easily, permed, locked or braided but the western and asian hair has these limitation and I wonder why people go for brazillian hair and Peruvian hair where as the oyibo is dying to plait or lock their hairs
Skin, oh that is the most widespread, God gave us brown and maybe some very dark Alek Wek skin, but you shouldn’t despair, the hotter your region the darker your skin maybe that is why you have many hausa girls very dark and Igbo.Efik girls light..it is basically amount of sunshine. The darker you are the higher the melanin is ..so why do you go on bleaching spree to erase the melanin thereby looking smelly,funny and stupid…. Whereas the oyibo will sun bath and tan their body to be brown you are bleaching to be white..this is stupidity

Now look at the shape, kim kardashian and other western women are arssyy but that aint new, my Yoruba and Zulu women got asss and that is natural so why try to form oyibo whereas you can be natural…

THE EARLIER THIS FAKE LIFESTYLE OF BLEACHING,FIXING FAKE HAIR,FAKE EYES AND SPEAKING FAKE ACCENT is stopped the more respect you get…stop fake lives, African women are pretty and endowed… the African man is also endowed..ask the 7 inch dick man what his Chinese man is dying to have
Car TalkRe: The Reason Why That Your Tokunbo Car Keeps Overheating Here In Nigeria by tonychristopher(op): 10:18am On May 14, 2015
DUBAI AINT TROPICS, ITS DESERT REGION


abatically:
Na, I don't need to. Factory specs works just perfect for me.


This guy u sabi dribble pass messi I swear. First u claimed Dubai is not tropical region, or that it is not as hot as Nigeria. U knew u blabbed and now u switched reason to the fact that Dubai doesn't have traffic jam or they have good roads. Lol

Dubai alone does not make up UAE. There are deserts and remote areas with lots of dust that triple what we have here in Nigeria. Yet they have thermostats in their cars. I have a friend who is a Toyota dealership, all the Toyota cars in his shop are UAE imports, from the smallest yaris to landruiser. Guess what, all of them have thermostat.
CultureThe African Woman Culture Of Immitation by tonychristopher(op): 10:17am On May 14, 2015
African women are the most inferior of all races especially the Nigerian girls, this is not a male chauvinism thing..it is a fact and it is glaring, God has given African women the best from the rest but they ended up having inferiority complex and fish brain..the African woman is endowed but she refuses to see this and as a man when I see these fake women especially here in lagos it can be nauseating and petrifying
Hair, naturally African women have a good hair texture though not long but it is malleable allow me to use that word, it can be retouched easily, permed, locked or braided but the western and asian hair has these limitation and I wonder why people go for brazillian hair and Peruvian hair where as the oyibo is dying to plait or lock their hairs
Skin, oh that is the most widespread, God gave us brown and maybe some very dark Alek Wek skin, but you shouldn’t despair, the hotter your region the darker your skin maybe that is why you have many hausa girls very dark and Igbo.Efik girls light..it is basically amount of sunshine. The darker you are the higher the melanin is ..so why do you go on bleaching spree to erase the melanin thereby looking smelly,funny and stupid…. Whereas the oyibo will sun bath and tan their body to be brown you are bleaching to be white..this is stupidity

Now look at the shape, kim kardashian and other western women are arssyy but that aint new, my Yoruba and Zulu women got asss and that is natural so why try to form oyibo whereas you can be natural…

THE EARLIER THIS FAKE LIFESTYLE OF BLEACHING,FIXING FAKE HAIR,FAKE EYES AND SPEAKING FAKE ACCENT is stopped the more respect you get…stop fake lives, African women are pretty and endowed… the African man is also endowed..ask the 7 inch dick man what his Chinese man is dying to have
Car TalkRe: The Reason Why That Your Tokunbo Car Keeps Overheating Here In Nigeria by tonychristopher(op): 9:52am On May 14, 2015
Thermostat removal is only needed when the car is constantly overheating (all thing been equal) like good radiator, good water pump, no host laekage, good oil ...but the car still over heats..then YANK OFF THE DAMN THERMOSTAT and connect your fan directly


It is a gradual process...it worked for , it will work for you

abatically:
How come u no longer include thermostat removal as u stated in ur original post?
Car TalkRe: The Reason Why That Your Tokunbo Car Keeps Overheating Here In Nigeria by tonychristopher(op): 9:50am On May 14, 2015
lomomike:
Mr tonychristopher, where did you get this info from?
bros #
It is pointless knowing where the info is bros, it is viatl accepting the info than knowing the info
Car TalkRe: The Reason Why That Your Tokunbo Car Keeps Overheating Here In Nigeria by tonychristopher(op): 9:49am On May 14, 2015
Bro I am not but is it wrong driving a car made in Nigeria for Nigerians and Nigerian climate and harsh driving style


Bro It is pointless going to Canada to buy one used car to bring it back and be suffering from over heating ...because you did not tropicalize


Tropicalize the car baby


DGD1:
op is just advertising innoson cars, but the way he is doing it is very wrong, all he said are baseless.... common, cars from early 90's upward could be used in any part of the world(though some vehicles have issues due to technical know how).
Better let us not start with innoson cars, I can start analysis of that product that are not performing to expectations.... this is not politics that you gain sympathy vote by propaganda, rather than coming so low, you guys should focus more on developing your products to compete globally.
take KIA and Hyundai for example I can remember how their early productions were, but now a kia/Hyundai product can be compared along with Toyota, Nissan and Honda.
Car TalkRe: The Reason Why That Your Tokunbo Car Keeps Overheating Here In Nigeria by tonychristopher(op): 9:45am On May 14, 2015
Now do you believe now that there is tropicalization and mind you not all car manufacturer comply with this


They dont put africa market in view..bear this in mind so they view other market and use their standards as global not africa



so adopt your cars to african roads and need


tropicalize and thank me later


Specialist900:
with regards to this, it seems the case has been solved
Car TalkRe: The Reason Why That Your Tokunbo Car Keeps Overheating Here In Nigeria by tonychristopher(op): 9:43am On May 14, 2015
I know, it is pointless arguing, it worked in my car and it doesnt consume fuel, my fan are direct to engine..considering the lagos traffic jam and hot enviroment...somebody said dubai..i lived in dubai..they do not have traffic jamz and their roads are free so they can afford thermostat because even if engine is hot the emggine will be air cooled as the car is on high speed cos they have the finest road like autobahn..now they can afford thermostat...now here in Nigeria we have moisture, heat and humidity together with dust and bad road


men yank off the thermo



It worked for me, and it depends on engine tyoe...you cant bring in any type of car in Nigeria and expect it to last..even human dont



I am ready for them


Help me with coolant, my fans are connected direct

lol

ogawisdom:
Op I warned u abt d argument this topic will generate bc experts arnd here are seriously against this practice even wen they dnt understand dt running a car in Nigeria strictly on factory specs is sometimes practically impossible except u r ur own mechanic.

Jst hold on bc more r coming down on u I will b at ur side with a coolant n water incase ur body over heats grin grin or beta still I will arrange to remove ur body thermostat n steady ur body fan to overcome this wink tongue

In d meantime jst wait for d main Gurus
Car TalkRe: The Reason Why That Your Tokunbo Car Keeps Overheating Here In Nigeria by tonychristopher(op): 9:34am On May 14, 2015
lomomike:
Oya abeg explain the tropicalization the best way you can.
In a lay man terms I will make this easier for us

Tropicalization of cars

The climate conditions vary severely across the globe and car manufacturers previously made cars for specific countries based on their climate conditions without realizing that with globalization the cars do get exported out from the country where it was originally meant for sale in.

Cars made in Europe used to be designed for European climate which were cooler and dryer than sub tropical Asian countries where temperatures can exceed 40C and have humidity over 80%. The direct impact of exporting a car designed for the European climate to Asia meant that the cars were not able to function at its best. There were many examples of cases where the cars would over heat as the cooling system was not suitable for the sub tropical climate. The radiators were far too small and other components were not able to cope with the high humidity leading to premature failure. Some BMWs, Alfa Romeos and Audis that were imported to Asia from Germany or UK struggled to cope with the heat. Many of these cars could barely travel 100km across an Asian city without overheating.

Some interior components also started to fade and peel off as the coatings and linings were meant for dry climate conditions.
The car manufacturers only realized this in the late 1990s and started to do global scale testing during the development phase.

Things involved in tropicalizing a vehicle:
1. Paint - either repaint or try a good paint sealant.
2. Rubbers and Plastics (e.g. weather strips, dashboard, plastic bumpers, trimmings, etc.) - replace weather strips with tropicalized ones. Other plastic parts may require painting.
3. Cooling system/ Radiator Size/ Fan, etc. - Replace radiator as necessary or replace fan that has higher air flow.

Start with the paint. Its the most expensive part. Next is the cooling system. Then just observe first the other rubber and plastic parts and replace as necessary. Some might not need replacing immediately.
PoliticsRe: Rivers Killings: We’ll Not Forgive Nor Forget, Says Buhari by tonychristopher: 9:00am On May 14, 2015
he should start with his role in biafra war, then proceed the 1999 -2003 killings when he lost them move acidiously to other killings before he comes to river state...

make una tell that man to focus on his election promises like N40 per litre and giving 10,000 naira to jobless people...i just dey look
PoliticsRe: Rivers Killings: We’ll Not Forgive Nor Forget, Says Buhari by tonychristopher: 8:57am On May 14, 2015
Car TalkRe: The Reason Why That Your Tokunbo Car Keeps Overheating Here In Nigeria by tonychristopher(op): 8:42am On May 14, 2015
abatically:
Dude u are trying to dodge the question. Let me quote u again.


So I ask u again, would u call UAE (Dubai) temperate or tropical? Because cars from Dubai come with thermostat. In ur statement u said thermostats are for cars in the temperate and not tropical regions. So can u explain to us how come cars from the UAE have thermostat? And temperatures and humidity in UAE are higher than Nigeria.
Bros i have stayed in Dubai ..burjuman to be prescise

Dubai isn't a tropical weather go and ask sir

I said tropicalization of cars

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