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kimco: 3. so how did he control him without one when da others need it to control? it bs .

Senju+Uchiha dna...

kimco: i stand corrected.

You'd better sit cos you've corrected..

kimco: not gud enuff man...the three people we have seen use it have rinnegans...itz safe to say it is a rinnegan ability... where did madara control gedo mazou without a rinnegan? even now he had to install one to summon da gedo mazou.

He told Obtio that he can control the gedo mazou if he has senju dna, but not as properly as with rinnegan...this theory is applicable is susano'o...

kimco: i doubt hashi did it all at once...even he cudnt take on all the 9 tailed beast alone....

I didn't say at once, but he captured, subdued them, and was giving them out one after the other..you think that's a piece of cake?

pickabeau1: Do you know what infinite means brah

It means endless..but doesn't mean powerful..

pickabeau1: Dude/// look outside the box.. im no fan boy....

I grant the point he was ET when he immobilised Hashi but for Hashi to still be immobilised.. thats crap
Remember he uses the chakra rods to control and animate the dead pain bodies and to destabilise chakra flows or influence living bodies

Edo Hashi is dead and yet alive with unlimted chakra,,.. he is supposed to be back in his 'great prime' ...

So you're saying cos Hashirama's chakra is infinite, that means his chakra is more powerful than Madara's?

pickabeau1: Nice one...fair usage

I used to think the Uchihas have the highest fanboys but it seems Hashirama has beaten them to it, they hype Hashirama has is now making it difficult for you guys to see that Madara and Hashirama are no more on the same level..just imagine Rikudo sennin at 75% before he took on the juubi and tell me if Hashirama can stand him. That's how Madara is now..

pickabeau1: Still azz pulls by kishi...

A whole hashirama immobilized

Madara using senjutsu

In their prime, do you think the power level between Hashirama and Madara then was all that wide? Think again man, they were rivals, Hashirama then would never under-estimate Madara..

Now he has both senju and uchiha dna coupled with a level of Hashirama's power and you still think they're on the same level?

sarutobie: 1. www.mangareader.net/93-53820-14/naruto/chapter-499.html (here is kyuubi calling the seal the sage of 6 path's)
2. www.mangareader.net/naruto/606/15 (here is madara telling obito that even without rinnegan he can control gedo mazou as long as he has senju and uchiha dna)
3.He clearly controlled hashirama even when he became human..hashirama said 'sh*t I can't move' and madara was upon him,sapping his chakra..please keep updated in the manga,pulling out old chapter pages of well known facts is a hassle..peace.

1.. That technique was used by Naruto when he succeeded in taking Kyuubi's chakra and not Kushina

I agree with you on point 2 and 3 though. Not all techniques require the rinnegan to work, some can function when you have both senju and uchiha dna.

pickabeau1: Still azz pulls by kishi...

A whole hashirama immobilized

Madara using senjutsu

Madara was playing around with Hashirama throughout that time...

pickabeau1: Do you exactly know wat crap is...

On the basis of DNA stolen from a battle now he has all of hashi's power

Sounds like it to me...

Did you remember what Madara said to Hashirama about what happens when Senju and Uchiha is fused together into one?

I didn't say he has all Hashirama's power, if he did he wouldn't have needed to go to him for sage power...but as he is now he's almost up to the level Rikudo is when he confronted the juubi.

See witch wey dey fear spiritual encounter

#offeringthangs

zaynilabideen: it is possible for him to pull out the tailed beast but i don,t see it happening, he might pull out the eight tails {but i don,y want bee to die} tjen all tailed beasts can now seal their selves in naruto, this way the sage of six path's prophecy can now come true. it wont make sense pulling out kurama since sagge's prophecy must come true.

I'm not saying he will or will not, I'm saying he's fully capable of doing it.

pickabeau1: I feel you

Na so e easy to lock down hashi
Collect senjutsu with half bodi
Knock all bijuus with sneeze
Then extract living bijuu..

Ok ooo.. Kishi you are in 3D

Do you exactly know what it means to have both Senju and Uchiha DNA?

Lemme help you...Hashirama singlehandedly captured all the tailed beasts in his days with only his Senju power, Madara was able to control tailed beasts in his days too and has a wide expanse of knowledge..

Now Madara has all of Hashirama's power, his own power(which is almost on equal level with the Rikudo in terms of physical strenght, chakra level, stamina and life force considering he's united his splitted powers into his own body) and has a rinnegan.

The way he is now, he can solo Obito in his jinchuriki state cos he has the body of the sage of 6 paths..

sarutobie: You are complicating the issue..
1.Did kushina use the sage's fuuinjutsu? Yes or No?
2.Did madara not tell obito that he can use gedo mazou without rinnegan yes or no?
3.Did madara control hashirama with rods even without having the eyes yes or no?

1. Prove its the sage's fuinjutsu..Uzumaki are the best sealing clan remember?

2. I need evidence to believe that and from the latest manga, Madara only summoned gedo after he had gotten one rinnegan eye..

3. Its possible he did the controlling before becoming human...Hashirama was already on his knees panting during Madara's transformation.

kimco: still not good enough...i watched it today and i must agree with da guy...there is no reason why obito cudnt capture naruto when making his point of attack intangible. kakashi explains it as a teleportation jutsu...one where he teleports the part of contact into his dimension. meaning da other parts shud be solid...but somehow itz not...so unless i get a better explanation...i agree with the dude.

Whenever he transports a part of himself to another dimension, his other parts becomes intangible so as other jutsus/attacks on him become useless, so do his own attacks

kimco: even obito doesnt use genjutsu and susano'o requires ms in both eyes.

Let's go back a bit shall we?

How did Madara awaken rinnegan? It was when he had both Senju and Uchiha powers, so its the powers in the body that improved his eyes from sharingan to rinnegan.


So now since the body is the originator of the eyes, how come you think he won't be able to tap a bit into those powers when he's lost the eyes?


It wasn't like he was using the full powers, he could have used shinra tensei against Gaara/Shukaku jutsus if he had the full powers of the eyes but he didn't. Even the susano'o in question is a miniature one compared to his full susano'o.

[quote author=Nairaland=info]@least dier chains or prisons holdin di tails haz 2 bi weakened (lyk wen obito xtracted 9-tailz 4rm kushina) na?
Dere are mani tinz i haven't accepted in kishi's stori sha......

lyk i stated above kushina waz in a weaked state witch allowed di chainz/prisonz housin 9-tailz 2 ......

datz Y i said i sti hav issuez wit mani tinz dat hav happened so far in di manga
#teamNOMOREsiddonlookagain[/quote]This modafacka knocked down all the tailed beasts with one jutsu and you now believe pulling 2 tailed beast would impossible?

sarutobie: So explain how kushina used it to help naruto against kyuubi..na you dash am rinnegan abi?

What she used was a chain to hold down the Kyuubi and it wasn't depicted in anyway to zap the Kyuubi's. So its not a rinnegan based chakra chain.

In this age where even tear-rubbers are faulty? Na testrunning sure pass oo

Omo this na mechine!! Price range?

Who sees the possibility of the second rinnegan eye being given to Naruto?

This girl don dey wither ooo

[quote author=SIR cum a lot]how ?
Aside from the constant chakra drain from always keeping the sharingan on, what other move within the sphere of both kakashi and Danzo's MS weren't performed ?[/quote]Susano'o, gengutsu

sarutobie: Point of correction..the chakra rods is a jutsu of the 6paths..it doesn't require rinnegan..the rinnegan eye is also a part of the 6paths.remember kushina uses a sealing tech that kyuubi refered to as the same tech the sage of 6paths used..the chakra chain(just like the chakra rods) are 6paths tech(not really a rinnegan tech) that was why kushina used it(without rinnegan) and Obito used it with rinnegan..

E ti gbe gbagi ooo

It was the sealing technique Naruto acquired and used when he took Kyuubi's chakra and attained chakra mode that he was referring to as the 6 paths technique, not Kushina's

[quote author=SIR cum a lot]three examples prove that the body doesn't do much except provide chakra to fuel the eye technique.
Kakashi,Danzo and that Io dude with byakugan.[/quote]And these bodies couldn't use it to its fullest..

She must be talking to her fellow widowers. I even doubt she got the "peace" spelling correct.

kimco: sorry dats not a gud argument atall. u need da eyes not jux da body..madara up until now has been ff the set down rules.

fixed the last line for u

I believe we are giving too much importance here, the eyes are like a reflector of what's going on in the body, when Naruto achieved Sage Mode, his eyes changes, when he enters kyuubi mode, his eyes changes..

I'm not saying they are the same, the ocular eyes are different, they carry power but not all of the powers, the body carry a portion of these powers too. And Madara's body is even an extraordinary one.

You'd even notice Madara's susano'o is even a miniature one compared to his original susano'o.

kimco: and the eyes as well. u need both.

The body is involved in generating all these powers, the body could have stored enough for use without the eyes...

Madara is an abnormal shinobi in every ramification, knowledge, adjustments to his body..he's literally a cheat..so don't be jaw-dropped whenever he pulls a stunt.

kimco: i already told u guys...i've been posted to a village to teach for my nss( ghanaian version of nys) no netwrk wat so ever. jux vacates yesterday.


secondly ur response is not conclusive enough.

Which part exactly? I'm not good at giving epistles...