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Nbotee:
That's the simple truth. Once Putin is done with Ukraine, he'll go afta Georgia and other countries jus the same way Germany did that led to WWII. Putin wants a change of govt that he didn't succeed with in 2014. The whole NATO angle is jus a distraction as there was no agreement whatsoever not to expand eastwards during the Unification of Western and Eastern Germany. Moronic Pro-Putin commentators who claim there was an agreement between Russia and Ukraine in 1990 have no idea the USSR dissolved into so many countries including Russia and Ukraine.



Exactly!!! He jus needs them to use them jus like he's using Belarus ryt now. Truth is afraid Ukraine may develop its own Nuclear weapon and he won't be able to bully them anymore. Why is he so afraid since he's got all kinds of nukes that can get to the UK in 20mins and US in 30mins.? Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania all joined NATO long ago. Why isn't he complaining about those ones? Truth is afta d 2014 election they tried to force a President on Ukraine and lost, they've been seeking for a way to invade Ukraine. They annexed Crimea and den want an agreement with Ukraine to recognise Luhansk and Donesk regions as independent. Who does dat



Stop making unformed statements. Some of U really need to do a little history research before coming online to rant. The Crimean crisis was as a result of the fallout from the elections. Ukrainians protested against the "Putin Puppet" and he subsequently fled the country. The region of Crimea protested and subsequently conducted a referendum to be independent. Russia sent in forces and annexed the region while some top Ukrainian military personnel defected and joined Russia including their Navy Chief... Google is ur friend. Atleast make una dey take dis opportunity research and read up on subject matter before joining the masses with a silent M



It is funny wen U ppl talk about mainstream media and their supposed propaganda. Is it the Russians that aren't using propaganda? Go read up the NATO charter and their conditions for membership, apart from having the over 30members vote on who joins or not, the most important clause is that the intending member must be free from any territorial disputes. Russia effectively killed off Ukraine's chances of joining NATO in 2014.



Lol... U do realise d agreement U are talking about was about Eastern Germany and Western Germany and not the dissolution of the USSR ryt? What are U talking about Nazis and no Nazis. I jus told u d Ukrainian Navy Chief defected during the Crimean crisis.
What coup are U talking about? Ukrainians started protesting against the govt when the President refused to sign an EU trade agreement. Protests started and spread from 2013 until 2014 wen the President Fled to Russia.

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— The Peoples Market (@peoplesmarket_1) March 3, 2022

Chatflick:
Putin can't use it. Right now it's not possible and he knows that.

fastseo:
If putin want to fight he should fight but threatening with nuclear weapons is like threatening the human race with all its civilization

longetivity:
Putin will die a very painful death

Freestainworld:
Russia needs to bleed in all angle for causing so much damage to Ukraine.

UAE123:
It is a very good decision as they cannot get themselves ready but prevent the Ukrainians from preparing both physically and psychologically and it will also make Russia loose it's world cup playoff with Poland and Russian clubs ban from UEFA club competitions and with the IOC directives all other sports will follow by banning Russian athletes.

new2012:
thanks for the insult bro.. you can't give what you don't have- unfortunately, all u have is insults.

new2012:
lol! childish rants.

new2012:
you won't now what truth is? Ben if it hits u on your face

new2012:
Islamic propaganda

TollMind:
Ban everything so their propaganda plan would be effective, these people are trying to act God and it’s terrible seeing some people praise their act, War isn’t good, why didn’t they sanction USA when Dey invaded Cuba and all other middle Eastern sovereign states, am not supporting the invasion of Ukraine but a simple dialogue would have put an end to it all especially the genocide that has Been going on in Ukraine over 5yrs now, instead of a dialogue and coming to an agreement with Putin which Putin has wanted, the west and Ukraine keep screaming that Russia was going to invade Ukraine cause they didn’t want a dialogue and knew the aftermath of a failed dialogue would result to Russia invading Ukraine, so they started the propaganda agenda early so Russia looks like the bad guy
Putin is just testing the mic in Ukraine, when the real song starts am not sure if we would even see the Ukraine pupet Presidential on air

I badly want Europe and America blows up although it’s going to affect the world, I want them to tast the effect of their arm race that they have been testing in other countries

Putin putting Nuclear weapon on high alert and everybody calls him mad

Isn’t the USA mad for building the first atomic bomb which Hitler suspended the project during WWII

Hitler wasn’t mad enough to want to complete the project but America was MAD enough to use it

You reason am sef na

Stevenson20:
The party is about to go down. Russia are you ready for the new dance step
You can't fight and win people that are united. What you think you know or have, they also have.
Dialogue is the only way out

Loewe:
Okay now... When Russia annexed Crimea, what was done by the international community? Nothing!
Russia clearly overstepped their boundaries this time around. Even the US isn't directly involved in the war, except for sanctions.

What you don't realize is that Countries like North Korea, Iran and China are busy observing the response from the international community and they would likely do the same in the near future if nothing is done to stop such.

Let Russia continue with their assault on Ukraine and let's see how many more Russian soldiers have to die before they "capture" Kiev.

If you lot are supporting WW3, be my guest, but Ukraine never did anything to warrant such aggression from Russia.

ivandragon:
Well, that is one way of viewing it. But on the sanctions, I beg to differ. Russia has enough non-military sanctions that would frustrate Ukraine membership of NATO, measures also used by US during the Cuban missile crisis...

Also, Putin in his recent statements has been making references to NATO moving further back from the Eastern front... what does it mean for countries like Latvia, Estonia etc, who are already NATO members? Will Russia also invade those countries because it does not want NATO at its borders?

ivandragon:
Your list doesn't provide any new insights to your earlier assertion about US military interventions... you had already stated so...

My opinion was to show that Russia has not being any different from the US in invading or militarily intervening in the affairs of sovereign nations.

What Russia could have done is to use various sanctions to oppose Ukraine joining NATO, an all out war was not necessary, except it serves some other ulterior motive...

ivandragon:
I respectfully wish to ask if the war is justified because the US have also intervened militarily in other nations...

US military interference in other nations has often being condemned by the Eastern block & neutrals just as is vice versa. Without justifying US invasions, apart from the various conquests & wars of the Russian empire pre-1900s, Russia has invaded, interfered in a national conflict and/or had military conflicts with other countries such as;

Kazakhstan
Finland
Latvia
Estonia
Lithuania
Georgia
Poland
Azerbaijan
Armenia
Mongolia
Afghanistan
Romania
China
Japan
Romania
Spain
Vietnam
Cambodia
Laos
Korea
Hungary
Czech
Angola
Ethiopia
CAR
Ukraine...

Some of these nations have been invaded multiple times by Russia...

Now, specifically for this Ukraine conflict, Russia could have used sanctions to effectively cripple Ukraine... there was no need for armed conflict.

Stevenson1:
America democratically removed trump too cos he was pro Russian. Why didn't putin invade america??
So because a pro-russian government were chased out democratically makes it easy for Russia to invade a sovereign state and launch an attack on them??
Annexed some of it's cities and instigate succesionists??
Una get 100 excuses to support Putin madness.
Even some people gave reason on why Hitler wanted to vanish the Jews from the surface of the earth so I'm not surprised here too.

Truthisunique2:
Putin don dey beg China to speak Against sanction on his behalf

If Ukraine is a sovereign state then it has its right to determine who it alligns with

Swallow your pride and woo Ukraine, everything no be force

Stevenson1:
Oga, read and watch news more to rescue yourself from being dumb.
After the dissolution of Soviet union, Russia and Ukraine had one understanding and that is to respect each other.
Russia invaded Ukraine in 2015 and annexed Crimea from Ukraine. I guess na America force them to do so na.
Russia annexed Odessa and many more towns from Ukraine unprovoked. Na America dey instigate am abi??
Now, in the eyes of the world, they are invading Ukraine and bombing their capital Kiev yet you are still blaming America.
I know if given option to travel out, Russia would never cross your mind but the same America you blame and hate is your final destination.
All of una needs to be packed and give to Putin as gifts.

FERNANDEZISBACK:
I love the spirit of Ukraine..I love the resistance.. evil and Evil from Putin..
I believe he won't succeed in his Evil motive against Ukraine..

Putin is clearly being a bully here..this man doesn't deserve to be amongst human..he is a bloody monster..

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— Aamir (@aamir_lt) February 26, 2022

obembet:
God will punish all the Terrorist on nairaland supporting Putin

1Hover1:
The question is l the US now evade Mexico?? It would rather pile up sanctions against Mexico.. But to evade a country because you don't want it to have ties with another country is pure madness and should be condemned.

It's amazing how some of you praise Putin and turn around to condemn Buhari.

Ifesinachi22:
The Russian and Ukrainian "wahala" has been the most important news lately and just yesterday morning Russian military entered some part of Ukraine's eastern territory in what so many people have termed "the absolute declaration of war" by President Vladimir Putin.

Well, if you are lost on the gist. Let me quickly bring you up to speed.

Let's start from the beginning.

So, many years ago, Russia, Ukraine and some other countries in Eastern Europe were all siblings from the same mother- "Soviet Union"

With Russia being the appointed elder brother.

But after the sudden death of their parents on "26 December 1991", all their parents landed properties including kitchen stuff like Armour cars, drones, nuclear weapons and vegetables like biological weapons, etc was shared between all the siblings.

As per elder brother, Russia received the largest of them all.

Now, keep that in mind because we will come back to it.

As years roll by, Russia has been very prudent with its gifts and has grown so massive that it is now rated as the second most powerful country in the world.

His siblings?

Lol...most of them are broke.

But there is an even bigger problem.

Other Russian siblings except Belarus are not in love with Russia.

They say he is a bully and so they are going outside their zone to fall in love and romance with countries like the USA, France, UK, etc.

Russia is not happy with this and in fact, even wants the family to come together again in other to preserve their family legacy.

Even if it is to eat their favourite "Solyanka" again.

Now, remember when I told you that Russia received the largest share of their properties?

Well, it helps Russia in raising millions of children and even enough to trains millions as soldiers.

So, Russia is not only one of the most largest countries in the world, but it also has one of the most powerful military power in the world.

According to global firepower rankings, Russia is number 2.

Now, you might not understand how powerful Russia is when compare to Ukraine until you know, for every Ukraine soldier, there is like 4.5 Russian military man.

That is like 5-1

Ukraine thinks this is scary stuff because even though, they don't want to go back to their family, Russia has the power and can force them to come back home.

" Remember when your Daddy forced you to eat?" Lol

So because of this fear, Ukraine wants to join NATO.

NATO = The North Atlantic Treaty Organization.

It is a military organisation that comprises many countries with the USA as their most powerful member.

Their MOTTO is "Injury to one, injury to all"

So if one country is having wahala, other member countries will come together to help their "cartel man"

But Russia doesn't want to have any of that.

They say, "Taa! if you can not come back home, you can not marry that wife-join NATO"

And they are kind of justified.

If Ukraine joins NATO, it means countries like the USA-an an arch-rival and sworn enemy of RUSSIA can bring their weapons and spying equipment to Ukraine and peep at Russia while their main man is doing something with his babes.

And that is not fair.

Not to smaller countries like Mali or Austria or Ghana though, but to powerful countries like RUSSIA, that is a no-no.

In fact, the US know this self, they will never agree for Russia to come close to Mexico but they just want to try their luck.

So, to prevent this from happening and to show how serious they are about it, Russia started bringing together thousands of army people around the Ukraine border.

They wanted to enter the country "codedly" until Ukraine found out on time and shouted to other countries to come to their aid.

Other countries stood up immediately because they know what Russia can do.

Some countries sent weapons to Ukraine to help them, some sent motivational speakers(military advisers), others like Germany even sent helmets. Lol

They hoped that, if Russia see all of these, they will fear and turn back.

But not Russians, their heart is as iced as the many snow that dots around Moscow.

So, today, Russia still entered Ukraine and declared military operations.

Russia first started entering Ukraine officially, when they recognise two rebel regions in Ukraine as independent republics.

These two regions have been fighting the Ukraine government for years for independent.

Russian recognition of this region means they can officially go in other to protect this region militarily and that is exactly what Russia is doing right now.

Or at least claiming to do

Ukraine and other countries think this is a scam. That Russia is only looking for a pretext to invade Ukraine.

It may be true. It may be wrong

The thing is that, there is an easy way to quickly end this issue.

Ukraine must show their willingness never to enter NATO. QED

Anything other than that is a no-no

The funniest part of this matter for me now, is that Russia is currently the President of the United Nations Security Council.

So, UN can not do anything right now.

Any agreement UNSC will make this month can and will be veto by RUSSIA.

FERNANDEZISBACK:
Let's see how it's gonna turn out to be..
That doesn't change the fact that Russia will never achieve it's Evil motive against Ukraine..

joyandfaith:
Germany and some top economies opposed that. If Russia is banned from SWIFT, Putin will tremble. I think putin is taking advantage of divided NATO.

Gold179:
so this lecturer work is to look at female breasts and possibly touch their breast to know whether they are wearing bra or not? beside, touching of someone's breast without their consent is sexual harassment.

FERNANDEZISBACK:
How is NATO a threat to him?
NATO is a defensive organisation that guarantees the integrity of member nations against attack through the medium of mutual support...

He is not defending his country he is invading a sovereign country.. understand that?
You can't defend your country by attacking another for no reason..just like torturing your wife for saying she wanna divorce you..
NATO is still necessary because it protects its members from the “confusion, instability, unpredictability” which are persistent conditions in international affairs. So NATO doesn’t need to be against any specific state or group to continue to have a very important job to do...To prevent any more annexed Crimea’s and Russian occupied Ukraine.
Russia intends to further expand her borders, NATO may deter WW3...
So you gotta understand that..

blamingthedevil:
South South just finished their tenure with Jonathan

IhateYouMan:
Russia will be turned into ashes as well, the UK has enough Nuclear weapons to turn Russia into planet Mars. And you think Nigeria will be spared from a Nuclear war ?

Africa will suffer nuclear rain, destruction of the atmosphere, exponential increase in cancers, total fail of agriculture etc.

Putin is not stupid - he knows that attacking NATO means the end of at least 2/3rds of humanity including 100% of Russia.

FERNANDEZISBACK:
Did you not read where I said ain't disputing their power and capability.. but Put*n won't dare make a mistake if waging war against NATO...
If he does then sorry is his case..